While Zack Cozart still stands out as a logical on-paper trade candidate, Zach Buchanan of the Cincinnati Enquirer writes that it doesn’t seem that much of a market has developed for the 31-year-old. That puts the Reds in a difficult position, as if no trade materializes, they’ll need to weigh whether to make Cozart a qualifying offer that’ll likely be worth a bit more than $18MM. Cozart’s sensational defense and huge step forward both in terms of power and plate discipline make that seem like a reasonable offer for the Reds. However, the lack of a clear market for shortstops and the draft compensation to which he’d be tied could make Cozart at least ponder accepting a theoretical QO, Buchanan notes.
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AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
I can’t see Cozart clearing waivers. Really the Reds have to QO him at this point. Him accepting the QO wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world for them.
cubsfan2489
Yeah he’s definitely getting claimed, no way he makes it through.
jbigz12
I wonder who would be looking at him in the offseason though. The orioles would’ve been a logical fit before getting Beckham. Maybe Tampa Bay or Kansas City. Don’t think San Diego would pony up the cash for him given their situation. Miami needs a SS but they have no money to spend.
tylerall5
I heard Jeter is going to be a player owner…
brandons-3
Probably. Miami’s reputation and atmosphere should improve simply by removing Loria and adding Jeter. But being a player’s owner doesn’t mean dishing out money they don’t have. They’re still in a Miami market. The first act should be to improve relations with the city of Miami and start building up an identity and sense of community within the franchise and city.
herecomethephillies2018
lol I think he meant player/owner ala Mario Lemieux.
kbarr888
Miami doesn’t really need a SS. Riddle has been a competent replacement for Hechavarria so far, and he has twice the stick that Hech does. Sure he had surgery late this summer, and he’s fresh to the Bigs. I think he needs a chance to show what he can do over a full season before they go get someone new.
The Kid Can Hit The Ball.
jbigz12
I don’t know if you’re being serious about riddle being able to hit the ball because his offensive numbers this year have been trash.
ilikebaseball 2
He’s not worth 18million on a rebuilding club, that is absurd.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Not on a multi-year deal, sure. But this would just be a one-year deal, would prevent the Reds from having to shake up their current stability at the shortstop position and would allow them to try and trade him next year when there might actually be demand for rental shortstops. Sounds way better than letting him walk for no return.
mrkinsm
They haven’t been able to trade him 2 years in a row, 18M$ is just thrown away. Even if they could trade him next July, the return wouldn’t justify that expenditure.
PLAYTOWIN
Paying Cozart $18 million for one year would be lunacy.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Pretty sure teams were asking about him last offseason. Just like with Cueto and Leake they waited until the last possible second to try and trade him and in this instance it worked out even worse than Cueto and Leake because the market for rental shortstops dried up.
Lanidrac
It’s not thrown away. In the meantime, they still get to play a quality shortstop payed at no more than market rate to help make the club a little less embarrassing and a veteran presence to help mentor the young kids. Even rebuilding clubs still have to fill out the roster and maintain a decent payroll with at least a few veteran pieces.
myaccount
The Mariners had a deal in place for him last deadline that Cincinnati nixed in order to deal Jay Bruce by the cut off. It’s been confirmed by multiple beat writers.
mrkinsm
GM’s of rebuilding clubs don’t pay 18M$ a year for someone who won’t return anywhere near that value in a “potential’ trade mid season. Owners like to make money, not lose it.
mrkinsm
That is correct, SEA was interested in him when he was owed approximately 2 M$ for the rest of the season. This time next season, he’d be owed 9M$ if he were to accept the QO. He’d basically have no trade-value, and that’s assuming he’s even healthy, something he hasn’t been able to be for a long time now.
unsungDASHzeroesDOTcom
The comments here suggesting he isn’t worth $18M for one year are just ignorant. Of course they can trade him, but they’ve put a high price tag on him, which I don’t blame them for.
mrkinsm
They didn’t have any tag on him, he was untradeable due to being injured. He will not come anywhere close to 18M$ next season.
jbigz12
Cozart probably needs to cash in on a long term deal now, should be a no brainer for the reds to give him a QO. He’s already 31 and there’s no chance he’s going to have a better year than the one he’s having right now.
mrkinsm
He’d be a complete fool to turn down the QO. The only way he would turn that down is if he didn’t think his body could hold up next season. A healthy year next year = a better year as far as his FA value goes.
dodgerfan711
No one wanted Cozart at the deadline?? He seemed like a perfect trade canidate from the start.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
All the contenders were set at short and non-contenders who need a shortstop like my Padres aren’t going to give up prospects for a guy who is a free agent at the end of the year.
bleacherbum
Yeah they won’t give up anything for him this year but if they pursue him in the offseason I think a 2 year deal would be a good investment for a guy who could come in and provide some veteran leadership and bridge the gap until one of Potts/Tatis/Barley or Almanzar are ready to take the job.
kbarr888
Cozart’s going to want more than a 2 year deal.
3-4 years for sure. He’s 31 yrs old. How many more “contracts” do you think an average SS is going to get?
Joe Kerr
He was also injured/just getting over an injury.
ChazB322
Reds should sign Cozart to 3 yr deal, $35-40 million. Peraza isn’t an answer at short, and that gives them time for Downs, Case, or Rodriguez to develop enough to claim the spot.
sameichel
Exactly
jbigz12
His defense alone will make sure it’s probably not a terrible deal for whoever signs him. I think he’ll be looking for 4 years. Maybe 4 and 50 would do it for him.
redsfanman
I think you’re writing off Jose Peraza way too early, but Eugenio Suarez and Nick Senzel will likely both be starters by May 2018. One of them, probably Suarez, probably has to move to SS. Between lefty Scooter Gennett and out-of-options righty Dilson Herrera 2b is already packed, without even considering Peraza and Blandino.
Signing Cozart to a multiyear deal seems like a really bad idea, and they’d almost have to trade at least one (if not several) younger, more controllable, less expensive players as a result.
The thing that has held the Reds back this year has without question been starting pitching. If they’re going to spend $10m+ on free agents it should be on starting pitching, not on blocking the existing position player surplus with an aging untradeable guy with knee problems.
gocincy
This is the most logical conclusion on this topic. I appreciate Cozart more than most, but the Reds need to be dispassionate, not sentimental, when making decisions like this. It’s a shame he couldn’t be traded at the deadline, but such is life.
jbigz12
There’s not a whole lot to like about peraza. He’s very young so his plate discipline could improve with time but it has to because his plate discipline is that of a 40hr power hitter. It’s horrendous. He’s never going to be a guy who can drive the ball. He’s essentially a slap hitter w bad plate discipline and great speed. His defense is solid but not spectacular but that’s not really the profile of a guy that’s going to be a quality regular. Especially since you have a better version of him playing center field for you already.
mrkinsm
Why? The Reds aren’t going to be good in the next 3 years. Throwing money at mid 30 year old often injured middle infielders is a recipe for disaster.
imindless
I just don’t see cozarts production as sustainable. I feel this is definitely a peak in his career and this time next year whoever signs him will have buyers remorse.
SupremeZeus
I would let Cozart walk and not give him a QO. I don’t project him providing $18M in value in 2018 and IMO he Will accept the QO.
jbigz12
I don’t think a SS with an injury history coming off a career year will take a QO. Even If he did it’s not the end of the world for the Reds. He’s going to be looking for a multi year deal.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
They have to. Otherwise they just got nothing for him.
gocincy
Sunk cost.
ksoze
Sometimes nothing is the best option. Someone above mentioned Suarez at SS, and Senzel at 3B. That is the most logical scenario at the moment. Peraza is a good backup, that can play around the diamond.
THE JOKER
I know alot of people will disagree with this comment but I think Cozart would fit nicely with the Cubs… Russell been Hard…Baez is good…. insurance nevers anyone…this Cub team has been injured all year…get Healthly team out there…Cozart would provide a good upgrade maybe paltoon???player..move Baez to 2nd
THE JOKER
I know alot of people will disagree with this comment but I think Cozart would fit nicely with the Cubs… Russell been Hurt..Baez is good…. insurance nevers anyone…this Cub team has been injured all year…get Healthly team out there…Cozart would provide a good upgrade maybe paltoon???player..move Baez to 2nd
PLAYTOWIN
Yes I disagree with this.
aff10
Only makes any sense if they plan to trade Russell for SP help. No reason to spend $35M on a reserve infielder
notagain27
I believe the Reds front office will have a good idea as to what Cozart and his representatives are looking for in terms of a long term deal once the season ends. They will use that information to determine whether or not to submit a Q.O. I believe the Reds will offer some type of extension. If Cozart turns them down, he will receive a QO and both sides will move forward.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
If Cozart had any interest in an extension it would have happened by now.
PLAYTOWIN
He will not get a QC for $18 for on year. That is 150% more than he has made in his first 6 years. He is NOT an $18 million per year player. He would accept the QC in a heartbeat.
jbigz12
Cozart has been worth 4 WAR this year and he hasn’t played a whole year. He’s a good regression candidate but he had been showing improved offense since he came back from his injury last year. If the alternative is getting nothing I don’t see why a QO is that bad for the reds. You guys paid $13 mil to get rid of Brandon Phillips this year. If cozart can be a solid offense player again maybe the trade outlook next season is a little better. Either way he’s a much better SS than anything you have to play with next year. I don’t think it’s crazy to extend him a QO
mrkinsm
Yep, they paid 13M$ just to get rid of an aging middle infielder with 1 year left, so absolutely no reason to pay 18M$ for another one.
ksoze
I don’t think he’ll regress next season. But at his age it won’t be much longer than that.
jbigz12
Can you ditch the $ after the M. We all know what the M means or if you really have to use it put it before the 18. Cozart has been worth 4WAR this year, well outplaying his contract. It’s pretty much generally accepted that 1 WAR is worth 8 mil. He only needs to be slightly over a 2 WAR player to be worth his contract next season. That gives him room for a good bit of regression and still be worth $18 million. The reds have 3 significant contracts on their roster Votto, Bailey, and mesoraco. That’s it. No one else is making 10mil. They have the room to offer cozart a QO and there’s no reason not to. On top of all that he’s a very popular player in Cincy.
mrkinsm
xM$ is an abbreviation for x millions of dollars, it’s the exact way they write it even on this site, there is nothing wrong with the way I wrote it.
The $/WAR valuation is a fallacy. It’s an average drawn by a bunch of guys who are worth less than 1 WAR making far more than that and guys who are worth much more WAR making far less per year. If Cozart were a 4 WAR player valued at 8M$ per he’d be worth 32M$ yearly as a free agent. He’s not going to get that, he’s not going to get even 1/2 that amount. If a GM gave him that amount, they’d immediately be fired. He made less than 6M$ this season via arbitration, it’s not going to triple this offseason.
If Bailey or Mesoraco were healthy, they would have likely been traded as well. Bob Castellini and the minority owners have to be very upset throwing millions of dollars at a 90+ loss team, money they could be pocketing as profit or storing for later use. Rebuilding clubs can’t afford 18M$ on 1 year contracts. There’s a reason why HOU went down to 40M$ team salary in their rebuild.
If they offer him the QO, he no doubt accepts it and hopes he reenters next season with a solid healthy year behind him. And next July the Reds will have to eat 9M$ owed to him to get anything of value in a trade.
I live in Cincinnati, attendance is down 40% from 2013…nobody will stop going to GABP because Cozart isn’t there anymore. Remember, Jocketty traded an all-star 3Bman for Cozart’s replacement. It’s time to see if he can handle it or not. My hometown Reds are a long ways from competing.
reds1421
Even if he turns down a QO, what team would be willing to give up a draft pick for Cozart? Don’t forget the Reds had a chance to trade him last year but, spent all their time trading Bruce. Too bad we didn’t have two GMs oh wait we did. Sometimes the best move is to just shake hands and walk away.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
First Cueto and Leake, then Chapman, now Cozart. The Reds are completely oblivious as to when to hold em and when to fold em.
Brewers39
You know what’s sick? That the QO is $18 million, yet Mike Schmidt earned just over $17 million for his entire career!
haustebt
If he is able to get more than 3yrs/$25-30M on the open market there is no way he turns that down in favor of a 1yr $18M contract. He knows he is 31 and he knows he has a history of injuries.