SATURDAY: The Dodgers have agreed to take on some of the salary on what’s left of Granderson’s contract, Andy McCullough of the Los Angeles Times tweets. The Mets will pay “more than half” of the $3.5MM or so remaining, per Jon Heyman of Fan Rag. Some of that cash could flow back to the Mets if the two sides can’t agree on a player to be named later, Bill Plunkett of the Orange County Register tweets. [Note: the sides eventually did agree on a PTBNL.]
FRIDAY: The Dodgers have officially struck a deal to land outfielder Curtis Granderson from the Mets for cash or a player to be named later. Granderson took the second spot on MLBTR’s list of the top 25 August trade candidates earlier this evening; now, he’s headed out west in search of a ring.
While the Dodgers are more likely to break the all-time single-season record for wins (116) than they are to lose the NL West lead, the club has not stopped adding talent. Granderson joins recent acquisitions Yu Darvish, Tony Watson, and Tony Cingrani in bolstering an already-loaded roster.
Granderson, 36, gives the Dodgers yet another interesting piece to work with. The timing of his addition is particularly notable given that Los Angeles just welcomed veteran first baseman Adrian Gonzalez back from the DL, which seemingly left breakout young star Cody Bellinger slated for at least some additional time in the outfield. Then again, it may turn out that Gonzalez will function mostly as a bench bat.
Both Gonzalez and Bellinger hit from the left side, as do Granderson and the struggling Joc Pederson. It remains to be seen how things will be sorted, but this move could push Pederson out of his semi-regular role in center. Regardless, Dodgers skipper Dave Roberts will have options. The club has three right-handed hitters capable of playing the outfield in Yasiel Puig, Chris Taylor, and Enrique Hernandez — the latter two are also infield options — so there are loads of different ways the team can line up depending upon the situation.
Despite his age and early-season struggles, Granderson is a significant addition. he has destroyed opposing pitching to the tune of a .273/.395/.596 slash in his last 250 trips to the plate. It doesn’t hurt that he’s still capable of manning center field, giving an alternative to Pederson. It’s worth noting that, like Pederson, the new addition has been far more effective this year (and over his career) when hitting with the platoon advantage. The Dodgers will surely continue to mix and match heavily.
It’s not yet clear how the teams have sorted out the remainder of Granderson’s $15MM salary — just under $4MM of which remains to be paid. He had previously cleared revocable waivers. It’s worth noting, too, that the move seemingly makes it unlikely that the Dodgers will end up assigning a significant role to veteran Andre Ethier when he finally returns later in the year. Los Angeles also announced that it designated righty Dylan Floro for assignment to open a 40-man spot for the addition of Granderson.
For the Mets, the swap brings an end to a productive four-year tenure for Granderson. He joined the team on a four-year, $60MM pact and largely performed to expectations after a middling first year. All told, he produced a .239/.341/.444 slash with 95 long balls over his time with the Mets — while also serving as a respected clubhouse member through occasionally tumultuous times.
This move is the latest in a string of transactions that the Mets have undertaken to clear the decks on a losing campaign. Prior swaps have seen Lucas Duda, Jay Bruce, Neil Walker, and Addison Reed depart — bringing quite a bit of cost savings and some lower-level prospects in return. All of those players, of course, were pending free agents, so it made little sense to hold onto them with no hope of reaching the postseason. It is still possible the Mets could make another move or two, with catcher Rene Rivera reportedly a candidate to move in the near term and infielder Asdrubal Cabrera taking the top spot on our aforementioned list of possible trade candidates.
Craig Minervini of FOX Sports Florida (via Twitter) had suggested Granderson was close to changing hands. MLB.com’s Anthony DiComo first reported the swap (Twitter links).
Photo courtesy of USA Today Sports Images.
a1544
As if they needed more help
dodgerfan711
smh like the dodgers need another lefty outfielder
deano 2
Now Pederson, Puig and minor leaguers for Stanton
frankiegxiii
Why would the Dodgers want Stanton?
Bobby b
This is a curious move. Acquiring an aging player in a position where there is no need? Now joc gets sent down, Bellinger goes down playing out of position in outfield to accommodate A Gon, Granderson means Kike Hernandez role will be reduced significantly. Lots of changes on a team to break the alltime record for wins in a season
KCelts
Wow Dodgers are flatout loaded!
Gogerty
Well take off another high ranking player off that top 25 list.
angelsfan1522
That’s not how players to be named later work both teams make a list of prospects that they agree upon and the other team let’s them know which player they pick at the end of the season no one on their top 25. Or 30 prospect list will be on the that list.so granderson was traded for a player that has been in the dodgers system for years and at this point Is considered a career minor leaguer.these trades usually involve salary cap relief and a team who is hoping for a player to pop in their system
sorayablue
I believe he was referring to the Top 25 August Trade Candidates list.
sorayablue
Don’t know why this posted twice
Connorsoxfan
The app has the issue all the time. Typically it doesn’t actually post twice and if you go out and come back in it’s only there once.
Gogerty
Correct, was referring to Top 25 Trade list.
sorayablue
Thanks!
number 16
great move 5 years too late though
Jmpshorty
Honestly confused by this. I get he is hitting so well but the need isn’t there. Must be just a depth move. Wonder what we gave up for him.
socalblake
.228 is hitting well?
marcfrombrooklyn
Three letters: O-P-S.
differentbears
From the Top 25 Waiver Candidate article: “The Grandy Man has four homers in the past week, and he’s raked at a .273/.395/.596 clip in his past 250 plate appearances.”
itsbob826
Nothing of consequence, for sure.
YasmaniStrandall
hmmm…
RyCLa
Thank you Curtis you were a true professional. I wish you nothing more than the best in the future.
Bub_36
Why though?
DodgerBlue83
Probably because Pederson has been playing so poorly and just seems lost. Realize Granderson has been worth 2 more war than Pederson.
frankiegxiii
Also I read somewhere yesterday that Granderson has a great ops against scherzer, arrieta, and two other pitchers the Dodgers may be facing in the post season, I think one was greinke and the other might have been Strasburg.
Also weren’t the nats rumored to be looking at Granderson (and at the same time rumored by Chelsea janes to not want Granderson)? This move keeps Granderson (who hits good against Kershaw) away from them while providing another quality bat to the lineup.
gmenfan
Because after all the hype, the Dodgers may be realizing that Pederson may not be as talented as they anticipated.
frankiegxiii
What hype?
LADreamin
He was a hyped prospect, but that was 3 years ago man. His bat didn’t develop into what the organization had hoped/projected. Now his defensive skills have eroded so I don’t blame the Front Office for making that move.
therealbdavis
Why and how did they acquire him?
ohiodevil 2
Sounds like they needed insurance in center….and they gave up a player to be named later or cash.
nysoxsam
Bellinger going the other way?
socalblake
Lol, good joke, so good it’s not even funny.
empiresam
Maybe his dad Clay who didnt last too long with tge Yankees. That would be a typical Mets’ move.
matt41265
Met him twice he’s a class act
sideeffect34
Who’s spot will he take in the roster and in the lineup? Team is stacked.
mlbtrashtalkers
Umm he’ll play left bench
LA Sam
I Love It ! Still might not be done honing play-off roster. Go Dodgers !
Bub_36
Bye Joc! No way this dudes coming in to replace Taylor or Puig. And with Gonzo back Bellinger is going to LF, Taylor will take over 2B
Jmpshorty
Yea I see Kike or Joc going down. I mean they have Puig and Belli and Taylor in the OF if they plan to play forsythe and gonzo in the IF. I can’t see them releasing utley which means Kike or Joc go down.
deano 2
They will carry fewer pitchers in post season. Trade Pederson and Puig (plus minors) for Stanton?
tylerall5
Miami already has a good outfield even when you take out Stanton with Yellich and Ozuna, why would they want a package headlined by two MLB outfielders?
bronxbombers
Why would Miami want puig firstly knowing their manager is don mattingly he wouldn’t want to deal with puig again. Secondly if joc got called down and replaced by Curtis Granderson what makes you think he will have any value in a Stanton trade. Those minor leaguers would have to be 1 top 5 and a top 8 at least l.
differentbears
I’d bet money Joc is going down. No way they trade him, they can afford to give him time to figure it out.
frankiegxiii
Even though I’m not a big fan of his, I still occasionally read Howard Coles Dodger articles that he writes for Forbes, he wrote an article saying LAD should send Joc down to work on his swing and bring him back when rosters expand. Time will tell if that is the plan, it actually seems like a good idea to me. Another thing, Granderson is good against Kershaw isn’t he? This move by the Dodgers puzzled me at first, one thing I was happy about though was not having to face Granderson in the postseason.
BlueSkyLA
Pederson is starting to tinker with his batting stance and swing. It does make sense to give him a couple of weeks to see what he can work out in the minors and bring him back up in September. Thing is they didn’t need Granderson to do that with Hernandez and Taylor able to cover CF for the time needed.
arodgers661
He is the absolute worse
frankiegxiii
Howard Cole?
Rob L. 2
Everybody is good against Kershaw in the postseason.
angelsfan1522
If it was Joc they would’ve said it in the article players to be named later are usually career minor leaguers that come off a list both teams agree to these list never have high value players on them
Connorsoxfan
He means sending him down to AAA.
stymeedone
A player to be named later does usually does not mean a career minor leaguer. It usually means the team will select from a list of prospects at a later date, or that the player traded has not passed thru waivers. That may mean that they weren’t put on waivers, or that they were claimed and pulled back. Once waivers are not required, the trade can be completed. The Mets could use an infielder.
MikeGrr19
Great guy
Class act
Will do wonders for LA as a guy who’s been to the dance
marijuasher
Because the Dodgers have only been to the playoffs 4 years in a row?
LADreamin
Still can’t sweep post season experience under the rug. We welcome Granderson with open arms. Let Joc work on his swing instead of killing every rally we have.
Bub_36
It’s says PTBNL or cash
socalblake
Could be Pederson, I wouldn’t be surprised, they both strike out a lot but hit home runs too. Well not so much this year for Pederson.
Cam
Makes sense – put him in LF, Bellinger back to 1B and Agon relegated to pinch hitting/WS DH.
gofish 2
Knowing the Mets, I’m sure they acquired the backup 3B at Single-A. Someone not even in the top 30.
…that is, if they’re choosing the PTBNL over cash.
angelsfan1522
Because that’s how these deals work PTBNL come off a list both teams come up with and agree on why would a team waste time making up lists with their scouts if the dodgers offer a top 30 prospect the mets would take it and run
CubsFanForLife
I think he means the Dodgers’ top 30 organization prospects, not the top 30 prospects in all of MiLB.
mkeving
Could you explain how PTBNL works to a few more people?
Rob L. 2
Stop posting this. And fix your period key.
Bub_36
They should’ve gave the Mets Pederson along with Ethier and Gutierrez just to rid themselves of them lol
reflect
They probably are but after the playoffs, hence the ptbnl
jakec77
Say this for the 2018 Mets, without even seeing what they do this offseason (I’m guessing they sign a CF, an IF for either 3b or 2b, and a reliever) there isn’t going to be a team in baseball with a bigger difference between their (reasonable) floor and ceiling.
The pitching could be the best in baseball, or in the bottom 5. Starting 2 well regarded rookies in the IF, plus possibly Flores finally seeing every day AB’s. All 3 of whom could be plus players, all 3 of whom could be back on bench or in AAA by May 1. The OF you would think would be good if not great, but Conforto hasn’t exactly established himself enough to be 100% certain, and you have to account for the month that Cespedes is going to take off.
Could win 100 games. Could lose 95.
THE JOKER
The Dodgers Are good enough why get another bat…are they afraid of the Big time. BoSox…or…get their heads scalped by Indians…or hear the judges final ruling …is the Nats flying around their ears..what the hell they afraid of????
JT19
So you’re implying the Dodgers might be afraid of teams that they might not even face. The earliest they’d even see Boston/Cleveland/New York is the World Series…I highly doubt they are “afraid” of anyone. Its called depth man. But I guess you’d be fine with a good team staying pat and not adding anything. Should the Dodgers not have traded for Darvish? They were good enough beforehand.
stymeedone
A good team standing pat and not adding anything…. you mean the Astros!
realgone2
That was lame
JKB 2
Why not get another bat? They can. So they did. You see they are trying to win the world series so they keep adding when they can. That is what good teams do. They fear no one. Strange that you think they do.
Bobby b
Because the outfield defense is weakened and clubhouse drama added to a team pursuing the regular season record for most wins
BAT1126
Thanks for the time in Flushing Grandy. You are a class act through and through. Enjoy your playoff run you deserve it !!
Bub_36
@ THE JOKER I guarantee you fear is the least of the Dodgers worries lol, they’re just trying to build themselves up even more for the playoffs. They’re practically unstoppable now
Mattimeo09
Just to be fair, the two teams that hold the record for the most wins (116) in a season (1906 Cubs and 2001 Mariners) both lost in the playoffs.
Adding Darvish and everyone else definitely increases their chances of winning it all, but by no means are they unstoppable
LADreamin
Yeah but those teams killed themselves going for the record. The Dodgers are cruising through the schedule with reinforcements on the way. No pitcher is exceeding their innings limits and our position players get consistent days off. Also consider that our squad is on the younger side of the spectrum, I don’t see the 2017 Dodgers in them same boat as the two teams you mentioned.
lesterdnightfly
The 1906 Cubs killed themselves going for the record? Somehow I doubt that, as much as I doubt the existence of any documentation of such a thing.
Unless you saw it in person….
HLPHilltopper
I know right? That imperious lack-wit, Frank Chance over-used Jack Pfiester down the stretch. Everybody knew that J-Pfie was coming down with the Spanish Flu, but Chance had him pitching late in blowouts just to break the stupid record. They had already clinched a playoff spot!!! Why the poor boy was bellows-to-mend by the 3rd inning of his NLDS start. I knew it would cost them in October. If you would kindly refer to the late edition classifieds of the Aug 27th, 1906 North Chicago Herald-Caller you’ll see a post of mine where I totally called that.
LADreamin
No, I didn’t see it in person smart guy, but there is documentation of that season. They went 50-8 to end their season, so it’s not a long shot to say they gave it their all through the last stretch before the playoffs. Same with the 2001 Mariners, Lou Pinella pushed his top guys so hard they got to the playoffs tired from chasing the record. Save me the condescending tone next time.
Rob L. 2
Did Lou or any of the 2001 Mariners tell you that?
hmu.seth
Trade joc asap
ryanw-2
I wonder if they’re just not sold sold on Joc Pederson yet.
padam
Or ever.
sugoi51
Love Granderson, good dude with fans, solid player. But not so good against lefties, and the Dodgers already have two outfielders in Pederson and Puig who fit that mold this year. Interesting. Indeed.
wayneroo
May not play much against lefties
bsteady7
I like Him as a bench piece . Very good vet. With the talent they have I would’ve sent Joc back the other way if they’d take Ethier as well. Maybe some minor leaguers to balance it out.
Wizzrobe
This was a cash dump move for the Mets. They wouldn’t take Ethier unless the Dodgers ponied up the remaining cash on him.
jakec77
Pederson wouldn’t get through waivers. As I understand it, baseball does monitor trades with PTBN to make sure they aren’t just using to get around trade deadline rules, if a player is going to the Mets it won’t be someone on 40 man roster.
fanmanstan
Maybe they got him so the nats didn’t. The need wasn’t there for the dodgers but it was for the nats. Just saying
pustule bosey
I actually think that could be the case,normally you are going to look in division to block guys but the Dodgers are so far ahead that they will most likely face the wild card winner of the second place team in the West and the central so you might as well play the long game
pryanadidas86
Adios Joc
SimplyAmazin91
Ahh Grandy he was a classic Met. I just watched his interview in the pregame about his life and baseball. He seems really down to earth and would be a great broadcaster. I’m actually kind of pulling for the dodgers to win the WS now so that he can get his well-deserved ring.
DaKingoftheNorth
Next to go should really Collins
BlueSkyLA
Didn’t see that coming.
Another LH bat just as Gonzales comes off the DL and maybe Ethier too?
dichard206
ny mets organization is a real mess poor balance too top heavy aging veterans and self centered egostical players led by a bafoon manager and hopeless front office im ashamed 2 years ago world series fallen fast
jdgoat
How are degrom, Thor, Conforto and cespedes self centred?
Connorsoxfan
Cespedes doesn’t have great character, and is mostly concerned with himself. Remember he would only play one OF position in Boston because he just didn’t want to play the others? but the guy is just dumping on them meaninglessly. Nothing he says really means anything important.
mistermanly
As Bill Shaikin tweeted:
Curtis Granderson’s OPS
vs. Jake Arrieta 1.070,
vs. Max Scherzer .920,
vs. Tanner Roark .933.
macka
I see LA making one more BIG SPLASH by Aug. 31st. Pederson & prospects for either Verlander or Stanton deal ????????????
corey5kersh22
What’s the point of making either of those moves?
angelsfan1522
Why would they trade for Stanton with so many outfielders it makes no sense they’d either empty their farm system or they’d have to take on his whole contract and that would be stupid I could see verlander unless he uses his full no trade clause but I don’t think he’s that stupid to pass up a few seasons of playoffs
macka
Detroit wants a CF and since Pederson is struggling bring in Granderson. Trade Pederson to Detroit for Verlander than bring up Verdugo Sept. 1st.
BlueSkyLA
Where does Verlander fit into a rotation of:
Kershaw
Darvish
Wood
Hill
Maeda
Ryu
McCarthy
??
thecrown24
In what way do you think you can get Verlander in a deal that centers around Pederson? You honestly do not think the Tigers would have better offers then a prospect who was supposed to be an absolute stud but has flopped thus far.
metsoptimist
He’s a significant addition because of the person he is, too. I’m crushed.
bradthebluefish
Amazing how Mets were willing to take cash (or PTBNL) and yet nobody bought in until now. Mind boggling.
davidcoonce74
This might just have been a pre-emotive strike to prevent him from going to the Bats or anyone else. Granderson might just be a bench guy for the rest of the season.
Thronson5
I can’t believe this trade. I think this is a huge addition for the Dodgers. Joc can go down and work on his new swing and come up for the playoffs and doesn’t have to play much maybe come off the bench and pinch hit here and there but Granderson brings a lot to the table for the Dodgers with his mentality, his hustle and his ability to still play in the field and the guy can still hit. He isn’t an easy out. I love it
jd396
They’re going to have to retroactively start changing Dodgers losses to wins.
Mel hall ruled
I guess they hope to not play against lhp?
Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA
I think they’ve showed this year they don’t care and have hit all comers. I don’t know how that’s what you get from them obtaining a class act vet who essentially will platoon.
doug148
Iam going to laugh if this team chokes in the playoff
joeyrocafella
Good luck in LA, Grandy… With my Mets being completely out of the race, I’m rooting for him to win a ring in LA…
gomerhodge71
Why bother? Even if all they give up is $100, do they need to? Granted, Curtis will add some depth, but the Dodgers are going to have to fully implode at this point not to win it all and a full implosion will not be held off by Granderson.
pepesilvia
Good jock Peterson sucks
Wolf Hoffmann
Pedro. His name is Joc. Get it right rookie.
pepesilvia
I can’t help that his parents misspelled his name.. point is he’s terrible player.
BlueSkyLA
It’s also Pederson. I guess his parents got that one wrong too.
HarveyD82
ppl keep asking “why”..are you a baseball fan? for roster/bench depth.. this team is a locomotive that’s going all the way
fox471 Dave
Bit late to the party but I assume Granderson is a pending free agent and a couple month rental for the Dodgers?
stl_cards16 2
You could read the article.
thecrown24
Best of Luck to you Mr. Granderson. Dodoger fans are getting a player who never dogs it, always hustles, and never complains. He just goes out there and plays baseball. A true professional and class act individual. From a Sincere Mets fan I would just like to say Thank You for the memories GrandyMan!!
Jordan 5
I wouldn’t be shocked if the dodgers wait until Sunday to face verlander to make a decision on him. They should be looking to add a bullpen piece. Fields, Baez, stripping who will probably be sent down all consistently give up the long ball.
hk27
That’s a lot of LH outfielders to be occupying roster spaces….
acarneglia
Forget how good this is the Dodgers even though it is a good acquisition.
Sandy Alderson is single handedly ruining the Mets organization and people don’t seem to realize it.
Traded Duda for the Rays 40th prospect
Traded Walker to Milwaukee for PTBNL
Traded Granderson to Los Angeles for PTBNL or cash
Traded Bruce and Reed to Cleveland and Boston respectively and got about 4 below average players
Then they saw Rene Rivera go through waivers and got no value what so ever
Basically they lost 6 players from the opening day roster and only got 5-7 players back.
Alderson had offers from the Yankees for Bruce, Duda, and Reed. Those offers would’ve brought better prospects back to the Mets than what they received from Cleveland, Tampa Bay, and Boston but he refused to do those deals if they came at the cost of bettering their crosstown rivals whom they only play 4-6 games a year.
thecrown24
Are you really that blind as a Mets fan? The Wilpons don’t want to eat pretty much any of the money from those expiring contracts. The GM cannot do much when he has cheap owners telling him to save as much money first and formost instead of potentially adding better prospects for all these players by the WilPigs eating half if not all of the salary from these expiring contracts.
acarneglia
I’m a Yankee fan.
thecrown24
That’s the problem. You are a yankee fan analyzing mets ownership and GM as if you follow this franchise on a regular basis. Stick to your own team and enjoy the bright future of your organization instead of trolling about crap you don’t understand.
Rob L. 2
*drops mic*
thecrown24
Also you do realize Drew Smith is our 30th best Prospect in the Organization. He’s honestly IMO the best piece we have gotten back in any of the trades we have made potential wise. The kids stats are beyond solid for a reliever and has the upside to possibly be a Setup man for a long time to come. That’s not bad in my opinion for a guy who has a bad back and a streaky hitter for his entire career with the Mets.
dichard206
truth hurts !!mets constantly hurt on dl , manager crisis , players crisis ,drama always ,front office in crisis . players playing hurt while front office has no clue and covers up. manager next to go hes an atrocities
jakec77
Which Yankee prospects were offered?
DXC
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE “WHERE WERE YOU WHEN?” MOMENTS, at least in Met history. Where were you when they won the WS in 1969? 1986? Now, when the Wilpons agreed to pay the balance of contract in order to facilitate a late season trade where they may get something back? What’s next? – a buyout of David Wright’s contract? (Probably not, they like including it in the payroll so it looks less pathetic than it is.) Clearly, they waited it out hoping, but on Aug 19 I guess it was clear this was the only way to move him, and it was owed either way, NOT ALDERSON’S FAULT AT ALL – I’m sure he’d love to work for real owners who prioritize prospects to pennies.
thecrown24
Exact truth couldn’t have said it any better as a fellow mets fan.
Solaris611
Dodgers could go into interstellar overdrive by sending Pederson, Ethier, and Adrian Gonzalez to MIA for Stanton, each team assuming 100% of what remains on the contracts of the players they receive. It would be a win-win, but the Dodgers would go from juggernaut to dreadnaught instantly.
Ironman_4life
Adrian gonzalez is done
Rob L. 2
Ethier was done a few seasons ago.
thecrown24
Lmaooo you are out of your mind if you think that gets you stanton. A player who has never panned out as a big time player since being so hyped as a prospect in Pederson. Then let’s throw in two aged veterans who are declining. Logical dodger fans aren’t this clueless lol.
Rob L. 2
Like the Marlins want those 3 pieces of garbage for their superstar. Stop eating paint chips.
BlueSkyLA
Not saying the Marlins would be interested in any of those players, but Stanton’s contract would be a problem for any team if the (new) Marlins owners decided to move him for a tear-down and rebuild. A team would not know if they were obligated to $75M or $300M. That’s a tough sell at face value.
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Bobby b
Don’t like this move. Granderson is a good player ( though aging) and has always been an average to below average fielder ( arm). One of the strengths of this year’s Dodgers is the outstanding outfield defense with range and plus arms. With Granderson playing regularly this means Kike Hernandez will see a reduced role, Joc Pederson already sent down. Seems like they are messing with team chemistry at this point.