This post was originally published on the evening of Tues., July 18, prior to the announcement of the trade.
9:59pm: Levine tweets that there are four players going to the White Sox in the deal. Sherman adds that the fourth player will be another prospect, so it doesn’t seem as though anyone else on the big league roster is in the deal.
9:27pm: MLB.com’s Mark Feinsand tweets that the White Sox would indeed take Clippard’s contract back in the trade as a means of offsetting some salary. Sherman tweets that there will be no cash considerations exchanging hands. Clippard is earning $6.125MM this year in the second season of a two-year, $12.25MM pact. About $2.5MM of that sum is still owed to the veteran reliever, so he’ll offset roughly one quarter of the nearly $10MM the Yankees are adding to the payroll by taking on the salaries of Robertson and Frazier.
9:17pm: Sherman reports that left-handed pitching prospect Ian Clarkin would also head to the ChiSox as part of the package (Twitter link).
9:09pm: Outfield prospect Blake Rutherford, New York’s first-round selection from the 2016 draft, would head to the White Sox as part of the package, reports USA Today’s Bob Nightengale (on Twitter).
9:04pm: Heyman tweets that the two teams are hoping to finalize a deal tonight, suggesting that well-regarded but lower-level prospects will likely be headed to the ChiSox in return.
8:01pm: The Yankees are indeed “pushing hard” for that trio, tweets Joel Sherman of the New York Post, though he notes that the deal is not yet at the finish line.
7:52pm: The Yankees are “very close” to a deal with the White Sox that would bring Todd Frazier, David Robertson and Tommy Kahnle to New York, reports Jon Heyman of FanRag Sports (on Twitter). Bruce Levine of CBS Chicago first tweeted that the Yankees were the “closest” team to landing that trio.
Notably, Frazier was announced as a healthy scratch by the White Sox tonight. A move to grab all three of those players would obviously be a significant upgrade for the Yankees’ roster, particularly the bullpen, but would also be important in that it’d keep Frazier (and possibly Robertson) away from the division-rival Red Sox. Boston was reportedly in talks with Frazier within the past hour, and there were some rumblings connecting Robertson to the BoSox as well.
While Frazier has been primarily a third baseman in his career, he does bring quite a bit of experience at first base to the table. That’s a clear area of need for the Yankees, who have seen injuries ruin the seasons of Greg Bird and Tyler Austin, while offseason acquisition Chris Carter has been twice designated for assignment and now cut loose back to the open market.
The 31-year-old Frazier is set to hit free agency at season’s end, and while his production this year hasn’t been up to par, he’s turned things on since the the calendar flipped to June. Over his past 37 games, Frazier has batted .234/.361/.508 with nine homers and eight doubles. For a Yankees team that has seen its first basemen bat a collective .208/.295/.391, even Frazier’s overall .207/.328/.432 batting line would be a marked improvement, but if he can sustain his recently increased production, it’d be a particular boon for manager Joe Girardi’s lineup.
And, in fact, there are plenty of signs that point to some positive regression for Frazier. The slugger has upped his walk rate to a career-high 14.3 percent in 2017 while also cutting his strikeout rate by more than three percent — from 24.5 percent in 2016 to 21.2 percent in 2017. Beyond that, Frazier has cut his infield-fly rate and seen increases in his line-drive and hard-contact rates. As such, it stands to reason that he could continue to improve upon a .214 batting average on balls in play that is currently the second-worst mark among all qualified Major League hitters.
Robertson, of course, is a known commodity to the Yankees. The righty spent the first seven years of his career in the Bronx, working to an excellent 2.81 ERA with 12.0 K/9 against 3.8 BB/9. Most of his career in New York was spent setting up for future Hall of Famer Mariano Rivera, but Robertson thrived in the ninth-inning spotlight in his final season with the Yanks (following Rivera’s retirement), setting him up to sign a four-year, $46MM contract that was at the time one of the five largest contracts ever inked by a reliever.
Now 32 years of age, Robertson is halfway through the third year of that contract and is in the midst of his best season with the Sox. Through 33 1/3 innings on Chicago’s South Side, Robertson has worked to a 2.70 earned run average with 12.7 K/9, 3.0 BB/9 and an even 40.0 percent ground-ball rate. He’s still owed $4.92MM of his $12MM salary this season and is set to earn $13MM in 2018 as well.
As for Kahnle, the 27-year-old was also once property of the Yankees, having risen through their minor league ranks before eventually making his big league debut in Colorado. The flamethrowing righty has long displayed a propensity for missing bats, but he’s taken that skill to new heights in 2017 while also dramatically slashing his walk rate. Through 36 innings in 2017, Kahnle has posted a ridiculous 15.0 K/9 rate to go along with a 41.1 percent grounder rate. The resulting 2.50 ERA looks impressive on its own, but metrics like FIP (1.47), xFIP (1.63) and SIERA (1.62) all feel that he may actually be unfortunate to be sporting an ERA even that high.
Further adding to Kahnle’s value is that he very much comes with long-term potential. If this proves to be a breakout rather than an aberration, he’d be controllable through the 2020 season via the arbitration process. Kahnle entered the year with just over two years of big league service time, so he’ll wrap up the 2017 campaign with three-plus years of service and be arbitration-eligible for the first time.
Adding Robertson and Kahnle to a bullpen that already features both Aroldis Chapman and Dellin Betances would give the Yankees a powerhouse relief corps to work with not only in 2017 but also through at least 2018, after which Robertson will be eligible for free agency. That pairing would figure to be joined by an excellent multi-inning weapon in the form of Adam Warren as well as 26-year-old Chad Green, who is in the midst of his own breakout season — one that closely resembles that of Kahnle (1.75 ERA, 12.3 K/9, 2.5 BB/9 in 36 innings). Chasen Shreve is in the midst of a solid season and seems likely to stick as a left-handed option.
That group doesn’t even make mention of young righty Jonathan Holder, who has also impressed this season. Suffice it to say, the sheer volume of quality relief options this deal would give the Yankees would leave little room for struggling veteran Tyler Clippard on the Yankees’ roster, though there’s yet to be any mention of Clippard losing a roster spot or being included in the deal as a means of offsetting some salary.
mvpetro
Eh
GoRockies
Hahahahahah
rbisingle
This is good old fashioned competition between front offices and I love it.
partyatnapolis
there it is
Boof
Wow, that’s a big package
cvarneski
That’s what she said
kehoet83
Yes!
KillahAC
Lmao!
cplovespie
Wow big investment+stealing from the Rox
MB923
I assume you mean Sox
GoRockies
F*** the Yankees
MB923
Lol. Not sure why this pisses you off.
GoRockies
Cuz I don’t like the Yankees. Simple as that. Yankees fans are the most rude fans in the sport.
MB923
Um. Ok.
davbee
I’m not sure I would consider you the arbiter of rudeness.
thegreatcerealfamine
Kinda showing your stripes there Go.
acarneglia
Tries to prove Yankees fans are rude by saying “f*** the Yankees”
On behalf of Yankees fans everywhere we kindly say Thank You.
thegreatcerealfamine
He’s a Rockies..soooo
MB923
Wow.
mattgarcia2324
Better not involve Clint or Torres
Ully
doubt it
Kevin 23
Involves both Frazier and Torres to WHite Sox.
posterizer
Not a chance in hell either one is going
rocky7
I heard Santa also!
justinept
Would guess Mateo… maybe Bird since he’s reportedly fallen out of favor. But who the heck knows. Didn’t see any of these three bringing the Sox back anything more than a fringe guy. But a package of all 3 should net something worthwhile (albeit, either Torres or Frazier is a pipe dream.)
flex_savage
lol why would they want bird?
justinept
As a piece… cause he’s young and cheap and could prolly be had easily. And fits the timeline of their first wave of top prospects. Obviously isn’t him at this point, but it wasn’t illogical by any stretch.
prestonb1291
I actually assume one of the two is in it.
A'sfaninUK
Yeah Kahnle is so unreal. The Yankees pen just became an impenetrable fortress if no one is slumping. I’m guessing Torres is in the deal.
KnicksFanCavsFan
There is no way Cashman is trading his #1 prospect for a bunch of rentals. Get real.
Priggs89
Only 1 is a rental…
Though I agree that neither of the top 2 are moving.
myaccount
Only one is a rental, so…
hyraxwithaflamethrower
I don’t think they get all of them without getting something good in return. If it isn’t Frazier or Torres (highly doubt Torres), it’ll be multiple prospects.
rocky7
Just AnotherFan
So why do you think the Yankees would trade their #1 prospect for a 3rd baseman who’s a free agent after this year, Robertson who is free after 2018, and Kahnle who may or may not translate well as a middle reliever.
I guess you don’t give Cashman any credit for smarts do you!
Torres is what 20 and if he’s half the player that everyone thinks he is, he would be reminding the Yankees they traded him away for the next dozen years.
justinept
Frazier is worth a fringe prospect. Robertson and Kahnle are both worth mid-level prospects. Packaging all 3 might bet the Sox a single guy in the top 75
NineChampionsips
This is horsecrap
InPolesWeTrust
Quality arms in the pen are at a premium and getting two with years of control should cost the Yankees one elite prospect and a couple other youngsters going with Clint or whomever…
SD Speak For Myself
And to pile on…they are paying chase Headcase a ton to play 3rd base! Frazier plays 1st.
billysbballz
Impenetrable fortress. You watch the Yankee games at all. Betances and Chapman take turns blowing games!
mvpetro
Considering Clint is still in the game I would say no
willi
Both are gone !
DRAM2500
Damn!!!! Thats gotta be a huge prospect haul for the Sox!
tndyank
why
Priggs89
Because 2/3rds of that package has legitimate value as non-rental pieces. And the other one has a little value as a rental. It won’t be a ridiculous haul, but it should be something decent.
ChiSoxCity
Because established big league relievers have more short-term value than some prospects. It’s comical how fans think every prospect is a HOFer.
antonio bananas
look up which teams are consistently good. now look up prospect rankings.
there is a correlation. I’ll never understand why so many people underrate prospects. even if a prospect turns into a useful bench/bullpen player, because that’s just a $500k player, that makes them incredibly valuable
davbee
Tyler Thornburg, begs to differ with you.
nelsoncruz23
Is a bidding war starting between NYY and BOS?
mathiasak04182000
What???
Howard-NY13
Wow
Priggs89
Can’t wait to get New York’s 20th, 25th, and 30th prospects for them.
jdgoat
All that? You get refsnyder and one of Aaron judges derby balls
Priggs89
I’ll take it. Those derby balls are more valuable than any ball in any other organization.
Bungalows
Lol for Robertson and kahnle? That should be at least one top 100 prospect
posterizer
Refsnyder and Mateo
ReverieDays
Nobody wants Refsynder, he’s meaningless.
manny0209
Lmaoo good one
CubanRaftRider
Interested to see what prospects Cashman will be handing over to the ChiSox
Dynasty
I’m already mad and I don’t even know what the Yankees gave up. We were so close to building a dynasty.
baines03
Usually dynasties have starting pitching.
ctc46
Agreed
Dynasty
And they will. In 2 off-seasons from now they can buy all the SPs they need to complement the awesome position players they’ve built. Additionally, Kap, Chance, and Sheffield can all join Severino by then. In 2 seasons this team will have everything they need.
pplama
You can afford to give up Florial and Andujar 🙂
ReverieDays
Haha sure buddy, sure.
ChiSoxCity
LOL on the dynasty comment. The Yankees already have strong talent at the big league level. They’re a few good SPs away from dominating the AL East.
Ully
The White Sox are going to have a stacked minor league system.
Priggs89
They already do…
hiflew
Yep they will be the best AA team in the land.
Priggs89
Gotta start somewhere.
hiflew
I agree. I didn’t mean that the way most people have taken it. The best AA team is usually the best MLB team in 3-4 years.
antonio bananas
Atlanta’s AA rotation gives them a run. The talent in the Southern League right now…
HeyBroItsBrad
I was surprised to see how much better Frazier has been on the road with the White Sox. May bode well for his prospects in NY. At least I hope so.
HeyBroItsBrad
Hate to Blake go, but overall not a bad package to give up for legit help.
bravosfan4life
Lmao love it redsox fans getting pissed
ctc46
Not this Red Sox fan. #emptythefarm
cspaced25 2
#emptythefarm isnt that Dave D’s MO???
ctc46
Yeah sadly. Not really a fan of him. He traded too much
Connorsoxfan
Not really this team is set for awhile if they lock up Betts and Bogaerts. Benintendi and Bradley under control for awhile. Sale and Price have a few more years. Most of the core is locked up for a few more years and they still have a few young guys on there, and there a still a couple good prospects in the system. If Devers pans out they just need to hope they hit on the Groome pick last year and there are literally no holes on the roster.
krok0806
Except the giant power hole that Papi left and failed to be filled by the contracts of Hanley and Sandoval.
antonio bananas
the cumulative power increases from benintendi, betts, bogaerts, and devers makes up for it
xabial
Yes but it was never #emptytheroster. Dave gave the White Sox the best prospect in baseball but no ML starters for a cost controlled Ace who started back to back all star games, is the reason Red Sox are in 1st place, has 191/24 K/BB ratio, is 28 years old and cost controlled cheaply for 3 years (2 of which are team options) Sale would’ve cost Gleybar and even then Sox had the best package. Until Moncada makes his MLB debut, and succeeds in the MLB level think it’s worth it by “Trader Dave” I don’t understand how cspaced25’s comment had 7 likes and 0 dislikes and Im a Yankee fan..
san888
This Sox fan is not that upset. Wouldn’t give up much for Frazier unless it’s joltin Joe.
Connorsoxfan
Yeah but if it’s Frazier, Robertson, and Kahnle that’s quite a package and combined with Kimbrel, Barnes when he’s on, and you can still hope that Smith or Thornburg can give you a few good innings. Not even asking for both to be good that’s too much. I’d pay any price outside of Devers in the system for that. They’ve got a really good scouting and analytics guys, and they have been pretty successful with picks as of late. I’d take my chances and add these guys.
rocky7
Were those analytics guys that thought Panda would be a good pickup.
Or how about Rusney Castillo?
Need I go on?
ctc46
How bout that Jacoby Ellsbury signing. Got some good analytics lol
Connorsoxfan
No everybody knows Panda was an ownership decision because they had cash to spend. Castillo just flat out sucks. I’ll give you that one. But as far as drafting and developing they’ve done very well. Just think about the guys the system has cranked out over the last few years. Betts, Bogaerts, Benintendi, Bradley, Shaw, Moncada, Devers, Espinoza, Margot. Not all of these guys have broken into the majors obviously and there are other good prospects as well but these are the primary trade pieces and current/future building blocks I can think of.
Connorsoxfan
And yeah I’m a Red Sox fan so drafting Ellsbury was a good move and then not giving him the deal he got from the Yankees was also a good move, so not sure what you’re talking about…
antonio bananas
0 analytics guys thought panda was a good puck up. in fact, those analytics guys and their pesky shifts are a reason for pandas failures.
signed, an analytics guy.
rocky7
How did we know he was on the juice which could be the only reason he dropped in stats so dramatically
I forgot, bad Red Sox deals always are forgiven kind of like the Carl Crawford deal when you stole him from the Ray’s.
VERY cagey!
How’d that one work for you Red Sox fan?
Connorsoxfan
It didn’t. They have made some bad moves. Fortunately they have enough money to do stuff like that and not feel a major impact. I’ll take 3 WS in 10 years and a team that is set up to make a run over the next few years at least. And I don’t think PEDs were the reason for his decline. Guys don’t stop using till they get suspended once they start, and not always even then.
Connorsoxfan
Or eventual lack of PEDs I should say
driftcat28 2
Welp…there go the prospects
manny0209
Ohh brother! Here we go picking up players past their prime
jschnitzler23
Holy crap
jacks81x
I hope the Yanks are just eating Robertson’s contract and not having to give up top prospects.
Priggs89
Contract is nowhere near bad enough for that.
mvpetro
Knowing Cashman he probably didn’t give up any top prospects
steelerbravenation
Knowing Hahn Cashman did
Priggs89
Boom
YankeeMan3099
Didn’t I say the deal with Boston wasn’t done and that the Yankees could jump in I told you.
pplama
That’s option 2.
Hahn is using Yanks for Groome leverage.
mvpetro
I’ll trust Cashman. He can rebuild without fans having to watch trash for a couple of years.
nrd1138
I’m sorry, how good have the Yankees been for the past 3-4 years where they did not stink? Just because Yankees fans have short memories does not mean the Yankees did not clearly go through a rebuild period over the past few seasons.
worzelmangel
I’m not sure what your definition of stink is, but when was the last time the Yankees finished under .500?
mvpetro
I’m sorry, but they were always in contention for the playoffs until the final month of the season despite fielding an average team. Oh and by the way they won a Wild card spot in 2015. I don’t see any other rebuilding teams that played above .500
chino31
Cash is a genius. Probably flipping Robertson or Betances along with others for a controlled starter.
RyKlug19
No way they trade Betances. Despite his recent struggles he is still an elite reliever.
ThePriceWasRight
or
a) trying to make the game 6 innings or
b) slightly concerned with Chapman and wants an arsenal
shelteredsoxfan
That doesn’t even make sense. The only teams that are trading controllable starters are teams not in contention or rebuilding. A rebuilding team would have no need for a Robertson or Betances.
acarneglia
Thirty minutes ago Boston was getting Frazier and Robertson, so I’ll take this with a grain of salt
san888
Exactly
Motts7
Why??????? Please no!!!!!!
A'sfaninUK
Verrrrry curious as to the package this gets!!
steelerbravenation
Wow right out from under the Red Sox nose. Wonder if they would flip Robertson to the Nats or Rockies.
nailz#4life
Yoan Moncada welcome to ChiSox finally !!!!!
Bob Smiley
Rutherford? Tate? Fowler? Dermis Garcia? Thairo Estrada? Tate seems like a guy the WS would ask for
Silent
Dude, we better not kill the farm! Take all money and give one B Prospect and like 2-3 C’s lol
san888
Hope Yankees swap Frazier
Yew Sukk
Giving up Aaron Judge for those 3 guys is a bad idea IMO
posterizer
Really- genius statement
hiflew
Gee you think?
Connorsoxfan
Well duh but honestly if they threw in Abreu and Moncada you’d have to at least think about it for a while right? Not that that would ever happen but it’s fun to speculate on what kind of package he could conceivably go for. Like the famous Theo Epstein proposals for prime Felix Hernandez from his Red Sox GMing days, except not wasting the other gm’s time lol.
dodgerfan711
Just so boston doesent get them. well played cashman.
GMB 883
Doesn’t make sense. Yanks can’t win without serious upgrades to their starting pitching. Seems like it’s probably a waste of good prospects.
RyKlug19
Their bullpen is amazing now so they won’t need their starters to go as long.
ReverieDays
You can’t except the bullpen to pitch the 5th-9th every single day.
antonio bananas
an upgrade is an upgrade. you can allow 10 runs a game, but if you average scoring 12, you likely have a winning record.
no sense in selling the farm for a SP. this is smart for both the short and long term
Ry.the.Stunner
Except Frazier isn’t enough of an upgrade to jump start an offense in that way. He’s not Mike Trout. Replacing Chase Headley with Todd Frazier isn’t going to suddenly net you an extra 5 runs per game.
He hits HRs, and that’s about it.
glassml
Frazier slides over to 1B?
sss847
this return’s gotta be crazy. like torres or frazier + some intriguing prospects. or both torres and frazier and sox eat all the salary
Priggs89
Nah. Hoping for Rutherford, but if be fine with Andujar+.
sss847
i’d be pissed. fangraphs did a comp of kahnle to andrew miller:
fangraphs.com/blogs/the-white-sox-have-another-maj…
if the return for kahnle + robertson + frazier is less than the return for miller last year, i’m not gonna like it.
CarlosMaysThumb
Miller had a track record, Kahnle doesn’t.
pplama
Won’t be Miller good However- Sox aren’t trading Kahnle now, unless the return is good. Has 5 years of control.
Priggs89
I do agree with that. It’d be stupid to move him now without a good return.
sss847
kahnle’s not a throw-in and shouldn’t be used as one. he has 3 1/2 yrs of control, get an impact prospect or don’t trade him.
rocky7
Righty relievers come and go year to year. Just because he has controllable years, won’t bring back an impact prospect.
Priggs89
Good call, bud.
pplama
Don’t think we could get Rutherford.
But- Hoping for Florial and Andujar
Hahn isn’t trading Kahnle now unless the return is good
Priggs89
I don’t think we could either. Holding out hope though!
Sherman just tweeted that outside execs have said Cashman has been trying to upgrade the team without giving up top prospects such as Torres/Frazier/Andujar. No mention of Rutherford… probably nothing, but worth pointing out.
posterizer
Huh? Their two top prospects- do you actually watch sports?
sss847
kahnle right now is better, cheaper, and has more years of team control than andrew miller did last year. andrew miller by himself netted 2 top 100 prospects and 2 other players. add robertson and frazier to that and the return better be on that level.
otherwise keep him and trade robertson and frazier for decent prospects
Bruin1012
He isn’t better then Miller that is silly statement.
Michael Chaney
Tommy Kahnle is not better than Andrew Miller hahahaha I’m done
biasisrelitive
lol you are way off base he isn’t better and he’s a righty I think the combined package nets Rutherford
a1544
Jeez. Kahnle is controlled through 2020
RyKlug19
There is no way Torres or Frazier are involved. Frazier is hitting .205 and is a rental. The Yankees are probably eating most of the money on Robertson’s deal and I think Kanhle is still unproven
Priggs89
Torres is done for the year and unproven, so I guess that makes it fair.
RyKlug19
He is only 20 he is the second best prospect in baseball and his talent level is enormous
CHendershott
Makes you wonder why acquire any of them at all… Or maybe you need to rethink your evaluation.
steelerbravenation
Now Romine, Headley & Betances for Adams, Teheran & Suzuki
TheBigFella
This is the most 2002 Yankees trade I’ve seen on this site in a while. Long live George.
calikid13
Lol, the bidding war. The Chicago White Sox look to turn themselves into the Chicago Cubs through trades.
manny0209
I dont see to many top prospects going over, frazier is just a rental for a couple of months, i do see Mateo or andujar going over
terry g
Haha This is fun to watch.
crosstownkid 3
Tigers got the dbacks #4 prospect and 2 others for a half year of JD Martinez
For Frazier, Robertson and Kanhle
It’ll be a significant package with the latter signed past this year.
Priggs89
The middle one too…
KnicksFanCavsFan
Ok but the Dbacks #4 isn’t even a top 100 prospect. None of them were so how would it be fair for the Yanks to give up multiple top 100 prospects? You match the quality of the player with the quality of the prospect. I would be shocked if the Yanks gave up one of their top 5 guys.
24TheKid
Well then your in for a big shock.
crosstownkid 3
Because, Robertson is signed next year and kahnle is signed to 2020 I believe..
Controllable good pitching is expensive,
Plus to keep them out of the Red Sox..
And if Chisox are willing to take on headly to up the prospect return. At least 1 of the yanks top 5 will be going..
TheBigFella
Robertson and Kahne’s controllability has to jack the price up on this right? Hell, we saw last year what a controllable arm can fetch going from the Yankees. Not saying Robertson is Andrew Miller either.
Motts7
We can’t even beat big sexy. Don’t ruin the farm for this year cashman!!
steelerbravenation
Damn Cashman call up Atlanta next we got a couple SP we are trying to move. Teheran would look good in pinstripes Garcia & Adams too bring me back Romine !!!! Would take back Headley’s contract to make it happen.
mvpetro
It’s not for gleybar, Clint, Mateo, or andujar considering the latter three are all still in the lineups for their respective teams. Gleybar obviously won’t be traded
rycm131
Maybe a guy like Justus Sheffield?
1Tough9
There’s is no chance Clint Frazier will be included in the deal. He is already contributing on the major league team. Highly doubt Gleyber is involved. We are looking at something closer to Jorge Mateo and Dustin Fowler.
steelerbravenation
A Chicago site is sayin Mateo, Torres & Ellsbury are going back
1Tough9
White Sox aren’t taking Ellsbury and his 21mm per year contract
Priggs89
I wouldn’t be surprised if they do it to get a top prospect back.
pplama
Fake account
24TheKid
That would be amazing for the White Sox, I would have been happy if that’s what they had gotten for Sale.
pplama
What is WetButt saying?????
Phillies2017
Seems superfluous-
No reason for the Yankees to give up prospects for these guys. If they wanted to get Kahnle, go ahead, but no reason to get Frazier and Robertson.
Knowing Hahn- we’re probably about to see some big prospects switching sides
everlastingdave
That was my first thought too. But if Hahn actually got one of the Yanks’ top 2 for this package, that’s legitimately insane.
MurderersRow27
No way Torres or Frazier are involved from the Yankees’ side, not for that package of players.
marty1116
Here your 1st baseman but it going to cost Robertson . National’s Adam Lind . He having a heck of a year just w hat you need to fix one of your problems
themayor
That is an interesting offer.. taking on Ellsbury disgusting contract is a huge +++
qbass187
Lol! Do it suckers!!!
mike156
Err. To quote the Sheriff of Nottingham in the old Bugs Bunny “I shall probably hateth myself cometh the dawn.”
Jamespfunk
It’ll be interesting to see what the package is. Before the season started it was rumored that the Sox wanted Robles from the Nationals for just Robertson. A price way to high for Rizzo to deal.
912boy
Dang the Hot Stove is lit for sure now
padresfan
Lol stop the bosox
Houston We Have A Solution
Yankees would be giving up a lot of acquire all 3- at least one of their top 100 prospects is going.
Maybe Rutherford or Adams, Andujar or Mateo, and some of their pitching like Clarkin, Littell, or Guzman.
Gonna be a big package for the White Sox.
pplama
Rumors are getting out of hand.
Bilek saying expect Rutherford.
WSdave saying talks are off for the night.’
COME ON!!! How am I supposed to sleep!?
ThePriceWasRight
Rick Hahn is so smart. bidding war still going on. no deal is done or close.
no Yankee prospect has been pulled. this is just maneuvering to get both to pony up more.
Priggs89
Pretty sure Rutherford has the night off, sooo…
ctguy
Mateo was not in the lineup tonite
NineChampionsips
Rutherford OR Kaprielan is going to be the main piece.
MB923
I also read it may be Rutherford
A'sfaninUK
“Rutherford is untouchable” lol
A'sfaninUK
“Ian Clarkin is untouchable” lol
MB923
Said no one ever.
Priggs89
I’m sure Billyballz or whatever his name is has said it at one point or another.
MB923
Touché lol.
pplama
Rutherford confirmed
YESSSSSSSS!
jackt
“Positive regression” kind of seems like an oxymoron
NineChampionsips
Confirmation that its Rutherford. Damn
ciberjnr
Don’t like this move. Todd Frazier is Chris Carter part 2
kidaplus
Khanle is the real value in the trade.
billysbballz
I heard Rutherford is in deal.
Man I hope not.
Houston We Have A Solution
He is. Prepare your “he’s not a top prospect” rhetoric accordingly. Seems like Clarkin is too.
driftcat28 2
This sucks. I loved the idea of a Yankees outfield of Rutherford, Frazier, Judge. Now we have to watch Todd Frazier stink it up and leave at seasons end.
stretch123
You mean the idea of an outfield of Judge, Fraizer and Bryce Harper? 😉
Yankee4Life27
Bob Nightengale @BNightengale
Blake Rutherford, the #Yankees, first-round pick in 2016, will be the prized Yankees prospect going to the @WhiteSox.
MurderersRow27
If the rumors are true, I’m surprised the Yankees would part with their #3 overall prospect in a move of this sort.
IronBallsMcGinty
If NY needs a starter, they ought to consider Miguel Gonzalez. He’s pitching well against Kershaw right now and has had some solid starts this season.
mvpetro
As much as I hate to see Rutherford traded, yanks have a plethora of outfielders in their system so it makes sense. Good get for the sox if true.
kidaplus
Stop making sense.
ctguy
Agreed. The Yankees can certainly afford to give up Rutherford considering their other outfielders. I’ll be happy if they don’t have to include Clint Frazier or Gleyber Torres.
MB923
Agree.
MB923
The White Sox got future HOFers Yoan Moncada and B. Ruth now
padresfan
Lol
Do it Yankees
This will level things out a bit. Just need one more bullpen arm
stretch123
Mateo and 2 mid to low level prospects for the three I would think… Frazier is worth very little right now, although Robertson and the other guy are somewhat valuable based on their performance this year.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Will the Sox be paying any of D-Rob’s contract? If not, it seems stupid of the Yankees to give up valuable prospects to pay him that much money when then had the chance to do it without giving up prospects 3 years ago.
gmflores27
Didn’t you say the Padres should’ve gotten Tim Anderson for James Shields?
billysbballz
The have to tell you if Cash traded Rutherford in gonna have to give props to Cheerios who wanted to see Rutherford go but I’m also gonna tell you the trade is a bad one if the Yanks don’t win it all what sense would trading Rutherford of your not getting a cost controlled young top rotation starter?
I don’t get it because Frazier is a rental. Drob is not young and owed alleged t if money. Kahlne was in our system and lost so I’m not happy if this is accurate.
MB923
Deadline is still two weeks ago. Who says he’s done?
thegreatcerealfamine
I never wanted Rutherford traded for this type of Package.
kidaplus
You’re overvaluing a corner OF with 2 HR in A-Ball in comparison to an arm like Khanle who is ripping it up in the majors and shown clear upward progression the last couple years that is under control thru 2020.
Especially when you consider the amount of young OF talent the Yankees have.
pplama
Thought he was untouchable?
Not even for 3 1/2 years of Quintana
912boy
Gotta give credit to White Sox they will be loaded and competing soon enough
MafiaBass
Dear Mike Hazen,
Don’t be the guy that destroys the hotel room.
Love,
Josh
GMB 883
Yankees are giving up way too much of this is true. #2 prospect plus 3 other very good prospects. It’s not like they are trading for Clayton Kershaw.
sportsfan 2
I agree. As a Braves fan I wish the Braves would have traded Matt Adams to the Yankees for this package.
Ry.the.Stunner
Matt Adams wouldn’t come close to getting that package.
hiflew
Um yeah, I think Kershaw would require a little more than your #2 prospect + 3 other very good prospects.
aussiegiants53
Maybe Abreu is in the discussion?? They have a need at 1B… either way I’m excited bring on the deadline haha
whosyourmomma
Wow, I love Rutherford and Clarkin (two prospects named already). I like the 3b prospect too whose name escapes me but guess we could settle for Wilkerman Garcia too. Love it though Ricky Hahn!
sss847
dermis garcia or miguel andujar?
myaccount
I want all of you who suggested Chicago wouldn’t get a single top 100 prospect to eat crow right now. Not just a top 100 in Rutherford, but also a well thought of SP who was buried on the Yankees prospect list because of their insane depth. Let’s see if anything else is added.
FAZBRONYY25
Unfortunately it looks like Rutherford will be heading to Chicago. I was a big fan of him as a future center fielder for the Yanks. As many of you guys are saying the Yankees have a lot of talent at the outfield position in the farm so to lose Rutherford it won’t hurt to much.
MB923
Haha. You can take Clippard.
MurderersRow27
Reports are now saying Rutherford and Clarkin are involved… If that’s true, this is sounding more and more like a terrible move on the Yankees part
cky7
terrible, terrible, terrible move. They are in desperate need of SP, so why trade for (albeit talented) RPs, and low BA corner infielder? The only way this makes sense is if they can flip Robertson and some other prospects at the deadline for an MLB starter.
pplama
Because Chapman, DRob, Betances and Kahnle makes it a 5 inning game for the starter.
kidaplus
And that SP gets you a couple starts a playoff series.
those guys can go in all the games.
And even if that starter does well, what’s the point if you don’t have a pen that can hold it?
Plus, look at it for next year… they yanks get Otani and/or some other upgrades to the rotation… and you have those four behind them for a full season? Lots of easy W’s there.
driftcat28 2
Wow Rutherford and Clarkin. Cashman is getting swindled. Rutherford should be used for a very good starting pitcher. Not a .200 hitter and 2 relievers, one of which is still unproven and the other gets into jams so often
kidaplus
Ha… Clear upward progression for Khanle since leaving COl for Chi and displaying downright filthy stuff is unproven… but Rutherford in A ball is proven?
Sure.
hiflew
You think Kahnle, who has pitched 4 relatively good big league seasons, is unproven, but Rutherford and Clarkin aren’t?
Bruin1012
Wow that is a big deal if the Yankees are including Rutherford then the White Sox have to do that and my Red Sox have no shot at Frazier.
pplama
Sox taking Clippard back in deal.
+, So far, Rutherford and Clarkin
Yanks get Frazier, DRob and Kahnle
RenoChris
Thanks for repeating what the article says lol
tcav1222
Sox future looking bright baby!!!
vtadave
Oh no, the Yankees, who are stacked in the outfield, gave up an outfielder who has two home runs all year. I know he’s young and projectable and all, but I think the Yankees will recover from this deal.
Priggs89
Basically what every non-Yankee homer fan said when discussing a potential Q deal. And then we were all told Rutherford is an untouchable star. There are couple Yankee homers that’ll be eating crow if this does actually go through.
24TheKid
I don’t think Rutherford will be bad, but i don’t really see why everyone is freaking out over him. Too me, he doesn’t seem to have much power, but still I guess he’s only one year removed from high school. Yankees should be good in the outfield with Judge and Hicks, and being the Yankees they will definitely sign a big name free agent.
ctguy
Rutherford has potential no doubt. He’s still years away from the majors though. Batting 281 with 2 homers at Class A Charleston. Only time will tell.
thegreatcerealfamine
Billy will probably shut it down.
canyon2129
Rick Hahn has been brilliant. Incredible GMing. He should teach this.
MB923
“When can I sign up?” – Dave Stewart.
Priggs89
With the way Hahn has been operating, I’ll expect the Devers to the White Sox for Frazier/Robertson/Kahnle rumors to begin in 3, 2…
dust44
I think that’s gunna b ur headline. The other prospect is probably going to b a 40 man roster member that’s blocked and not seasoned enough to play and a low level organizational guy. In my opinion Rutherford is too much to give up. But Clint Frazier is the future LFer and there’s questions about Rutherfords ability to handle center. I know u don’t judge guys potential MLB future at 20 in A ball. But to win now and still protect the future I’m ok with losing Rutherford with Fowler and Florial also coming. Clarkin I could careless about dudes been hurt every year he’s been in or organization and he said in his draft video he hates the Yankees. So not sad about him. His arm motion screams relief to me. So not a loss in my book. Just please let that b the top prospects leaving and not add another top 30 guy please
billysbballz
Rutherford did t need to be protected in rule 5. Only Clarkin. So there goes that. Congrats white Sox fans. You made a solid trade here. I hope we don’t regret trading Rutherford and I know we have Mateo, Fowler, and Florial along with Judge, Frazier and according to Cheerios Bryce Harper but my thinking was if Rutherfirdis dealt we we’re getting big a young cost controlled potential top rotation arm and not this return.
thegreatcerealfamine
Not beer league softball you play with four outfielders and a DH.
Pilzbrydroboy
Lol i thought you said Rutherford was untouchable Billy
billysbballz
Yeah in a package for Quintana. I don’t like this deal. I would have dealt him for a younger cost controlled starter. Q was not impressive and Gray is always hurt. How many times do I have repeat same thing?
dust44
I said there’s ur headline. With Clarkin and Rutherford. Not meaning that Rutherford had to b protected. Meaning I think the 4th guy going will b a guy who’s already on the 40 but won’t c the bigs for a few years. Like for example Yefrey Ramirez (not saying it will be him) but I think that would be smart since adding 3 MLB guys and only subtracting 1 means u gotta make room even with putting Bird on the 60 day
doug148
That a punch in the Red Sox face
kidaplus
Cut to spring 2018 and all those lamenting the loss of a blocked or at least luxury A Ball OF asset absolutely pimping the hell out having the best pen in baseball and using the term “5 inning game” a whole lot.
They sang Otani and or upgrade the SP in the offseason this is a move that gives them a serious shot at it all next year. (and some playoff experience this year)… that’s a real world series shot that Rutherford wouldn’t have anything to do with and his loss won’t prevent future shots down the line.
Nick W
Could have got Sonny Grey with that package.
kidaplus
Sonny Grey pitchers every fifth day for 6 innings, Roberston and Khanle can pitch 5-6 times a week.
It’s a different game these days.
dust44
I’m not sure that gets Gray. With what the cubs gave up for Q. Eloy is more highly regarded and more advanced the Rutherford. And Cease is a big time power arm with 2-3 starter potential and worst case closer/set up potential. And Clarkin throws in the low 90s and is probably a reliever moving forward with his injury history. It would of took more for Gray I’m thinking.
Bullet
I’m a Yankee fan and have to be honest.. this is way too much. Not a great trade value..
Good for the Sox taking advantage of the simple minded.
ABCD
Did you like what you got for Chapman last year? Just the way it works this time of year.
KnicksFanCavsFan
I hate giving up prospects in general. We treat them like lottery tickets. That being said, Slade Heathcott and Mason Williams looked like studs. Who know what Rutherford will turn into? Clarkin I like but he’s been injury prone. I won’t poo-hoo on the players we sent.
My only issue is that these deals might make us better but our pitching still seems a bit short.
I just hope that 4th player isn’t anything in the top 100 nor Flurial.
Priggs89
I actually don’t hate Clippard coming back. I’d rather have him than just eating money, everything else being equal. He has put up some numbers in the past. Hopefully Coop can do some work with him and help him bounce back in a no pressure environment, and then Hahn can flip him next year for something.
eze01
I think he’s a free agent after this season
Priggs89
Just kidding. I thought it was the first year of his deal. Good call.
Either way, it’s not really any different than adding cash to the deal, so I can’t complain.
billysbballz
No you weren’t, you were caught not knowing and now you say just kidding. Just say I didn’t know! Lol
Priggs89
Sorry, I thought it was obvious I didn’t know.
I did not know Clippard was on the last year of his deal; I thought he had one more year left. I was wrong. My ultimate plan for Jedi Hahn can no longer come to fruition.
Houston We Have A Solution
He’s a FA after the season. So good luck with that plan.
Priggs89
Ya ya. My bad.
Priggs89
Sherman just said if/when this is finalized, 1 more prospect will be going to Chicago. I doubt it’s anybody worthwhile, but it’s worth noting.
Bruin1012
Really good return Priggs your GM is doing a great job of reloading your club.
Priggs89
Yeah, I’m extremely happy with it. I originally said I was hoping for Rutherford but didn’t see it happening. So to see Rutherford plus more is extremely exciting. It’s a little scary because most of the talent he has gotten back is a couple years away, but damn, it’s exciting.
Bruin1012
Lol to the Yankee guys that said Rutherford wasn’t available for Q.
Priggs89
Yah. Unsurprisingly, there was a lot of stupidity in that thread. Funny enough, the main culprits aren’t popping up all over this thread. Shocking.
Bruin1012
Yes where is that Chris Yankee fan guy that was saying crazy if you think Rutherford goes in Q or Gray deal.
SD Speak For Myself
Brad Hand is available!
pplama
White Sox may have just pushed Groome into your lap.
Houston We Have A Solution
Hand and Solarte (If healthy) for Groome and others would be a great haul for the Padres.
Something like Groome, Chatham, and Beeks.
Michael Chaney
Rick Hahn deserves a statue at this point. Frazier had very little value and Robertson is having a great year, but probably wouldn’t have brought back a significant return by himself. Kahnle has been ridiculous this year and it’s very possible he’ll continue to be just this good, but he doesn’t have much of a track record and he’s just a few years removed from being a fringe big leaguer (obviously you have to start a track record somewhere, but still). To get Rutherford and Clarkin out of that seems really impressive to me, and since these reports keep coming in, I don’t think I’d be surprised to see if more players headed to the White Sox too.
jerseyjohn
How can you act like Robertson wouldn’t have gotten back a nice package? Do you remember when the Yankees flipped Chapman and Miller way back last year? Yes they are both better than D Rob but he is only 1 tier below them. The Yanks also get a very interesting controllable arm for 3.5 years. Frazier is just the cherry on top as he isn’t a great player but can help and is a rental. I think both teams have gotten value and given value. Is it possible in this hot take world for 2 teams to pull of what seems to be a fair and mutually beneficial trade?
Michael Chaney
I didn’t say Robertson has no value, I said he wouldn’t have brought back a significant package by himself. This isn’t Chapman or Miller we’re talking about here, it’s a solid closer who’s making elite closer money. The contract looks a little better with how well he’s been performing this year, but Miller for instance had a significantly better contract and that’s part of why he got as much as he did. No one was gonna give up several top prospects for the right to pay Robertson $12 million or whatever a year.
Joe Kerr
I am as hopeful as anyone but let some of these guys pan out before we put any of them in the HOF or build a statue of a man in a suit. Hahn has done a great job on paper, I hope it translates well to the field.
Michael Chaney
I know, I’m clearly exaggerating…I hate the White Sox, so I’m not gonna go out and say that Hahn has acquired a system full of hall of famers or anything like that. But the returns he’s gotten have seemed pretty incredible at first glance.
bronxbombers
Yankees are gonna start making moves like the Blue Jays in 2015. If you’re going to trade for controllable relief why wasting it by not having a good sp in front. I see either a gray for Mateo and floral deal being plausible as well leaving Yankees with
Chapman
Betances
D rob
Kahnle
Warren
Green
Shreve
Sevi
Gray
Tanaka
Montgomery
CC
gardner CF
Sanchez C
Judge RF
Holliday DH
Castro 2b
Didi SS
Frazier (Clint) LF
Frazier (Todd) 1b
Headley 3b
Torreyes
Ellsbury/hicks
Romine
thegreatcerealfamine
Hicks is Joes CF,he’s already made that known.
bronxbombers
I only didn’t include him because he’s on the DL
Philliesfan4life
Its a nice trade for the white sox, but I still don’t think the yankees have enough to make a deep run, I wouldn’t trust that rotation.
kidaplus
I think its a nice trade for the sox and a great move for 2018 yankees if they shore up the rotation in the off season.
Put it this way, if the yanks had a solid rotation this year and made this move to shore up a leaky pen with arms like D-Rob and Khanle to make a legit run at the title… anyone against it?
Well, they just did that, but its for the 2018 title, with a flyer on this years.
Philliesfan4life
I don’t think they have enough in the rotation to make a big run. They need a sonny gray or gerrit cole but won’t trade guys like frazier or torres plus others.
kidaplus
thats why I said 2018.
if you get gray but not drob and khanle they dont have enough pen for it to matter.
gray has gone 8 once, 7 3 times and 6 or less 10 times… and has terrible splits out of Oak this year… 5 or 6 inning of gray in the bronx and handing it over to that bombing pen wouldnt have done them any better.
but with those two guy added, if you sp can keep it close for 5 then hand it over to khanle, drob, betances n chapman you can steal some big wins with the longball talents the yanks have.
thebare
Cashman pulled it off again watch the kid go back to NY
Nick W
What would it take for Gerrit Cole?
Philliesfan4life
Frazier plus others prolly
pplama
Florial, Adams and 2 from the 15-20 group.
billysbballz
Rutherford headlining but we dealt him so no go on Cole!
fatelfunnel
Tito Polo?
jdm1980
As a Yankees fan, lucky enough to see all three milb levels live this season. I can say I’m okay with losing Rutherford. He looked good in person all around, but more a typical CF zero power slash hitter. Honestly Fowler and Florial looked better imo also happy this under the radar kid I saw Freicer Perez isn’t traded dude was nasty.
sss847
good return for the sox if kahnle flames out. if he doesn’t, cashman flips him in 2 years for a better trade package than what he just gave up.
Priggs89
Also factor in that if he doesn’t flame out, he’d be helping the White Sox win games over those 2 years, which is the opposite of what they’re trying to do. This move helps their quest for the #2 pick (Phillies may be too bad to catch) this year. Bring on Seth Beer.
sss847
tank for beer. great for marketing, but baseball america just ranked him as the 9th best college prospect in the 2018 draft. then again, they loaded up on bat only prospects the last 2 drafts. maybe they go for a 3peat. i’d prefer a guy like turang.
Priggs89
Yah, I’m not worried about where Baseball America ranks him. He’ll never be more than an average defender in right or left, but the bat is legit. I think it’s much better than either of Burger/Collins and has the potential to be elite.
I’d happily take Turang though. He’s the only high school guy I’d consider at the top of the draft. I could easily see him going 1-1.
xabial
ss847 this is one of the best analysis of this trade I agree with. Problem is, Relief pitchers are notoriously volatile position. 60K and 7BB in 36 IP offers hope though, in addition to Kahnle’s relatively young age (27)
Thanks to the Yankees ridiculous OF depth, I’m not as down on this trade as I was initially. I just wish Cashman would do something about that damn patchwork Rotation Lol
thebare
Stupid is as stupid does Hahn you make great trades then you let Cashman line you up and screw you to. What’s up with Cashman beating all GM then he gets his trade back is it the night life of N.Y.. Booo
Priggs89
Lol what trade are you looking at?
Bruin1012
Don’t know what trade you are looking at but I think Hahn won this trade.
billysbballz
Of course you do bitter red sawk fan.
Priggs89
Bitter Red Sox fan? The White Sox got an untouchable star. How did they not win this trade?
Bruin1012
Here come the Yankee fans that say Rutherford isn’t that good funny from untouchable to not that good.
xabial
The lefty-swinging Rutherford is rated as the No. 36 prospect in the game by Baseball America. He’s hitting .281 with two homers, 30 RBIs and a .733 OPS in 71 at low Class-A.
Nearly 300 plate appearances in Low- A and has 2 HR —
Probably the only concern, which isn’t bad considering I have no qualms about any other one of his hitting tools, and the kid’s still only 20! But he needed time, and years of development to find out–for a position Yankees have him blocked at for the foreseeable future
If Yankees didn’t have an embarrassment of riches from the OF position (prospects included) they wouldn’t have made this trade. I really wish he used Rutherford for a SP, even one like Sonny Gray or Cole but now you have to face the reality of this market, Yankee fans. Now the bar has been set for these two SP. and they should draw a bigger package than the number 30 prospect in baseball (a very impressive number, don’t get me wrong)
Rutherford is a long time away from the Majors. He could be better than Frazier. Or he could flame out. Such is the story of prospects. But he still has value, for teams to find out based on his excellent tools and potential, I wish we could’ve got a little more than this, but this trade needs 3 years to know who wins, (unless Yanks magically win the WS)
Dorothy_Mantooth
If Cashman is able to pull this deal off where he gets all 3 of these players from the ChiSox, unloads Clippard back to Chicago in the deal and does not give up at least one of their Top 5 organizational prospects, he should win GM of the year!
Kahnle is an absolute beast out of the bullpen; Robertson is a proven commodity who has already excelled in New York and Frazier will mash at least 15 if not 20 HRs after the deal playing in the Yankees’ bandbox of a stadium. This much talent should cost the Yankees one of their Top 3 prospects along with another prospect in the 20-30 range (Yankees system ratings, not MLB) especially if Chicago has to take on the $6.5M owed to Clippard next year. Including Clippard in the deal will cost the Yankees more in prospect talent than if he is not included in the deal. Again, if Cash pulls this off without giving up an elite prospect, he is GM of the year, hands down!
billysbballz
Rutherford is a top 5 prospect!
Bruin1012
Rutherford is top 30 prospect in all of baseball definitely top 5 in Yankees system.
Priggs89
Rutherford is their #3 prospect – #36 overall according to Baseball America. Clarkin is their #19 according to MLB.com… Sooo…
knuck2
Rutherford is Yankees #2 on Baseball America mid-season rankings… #3 on MLB Pipeline
Priggs89
Yah, they dropped Frazier down quite a bit. Rutherford most likely would’ve been their #2 guy by season’s end on all the lists (as Frazier wouldn’t be eligible anymore).
billysbballz
Cheerios, you were right about Rutherford getting dealt. I hope we don’t watch him become a superstar on The WS and I was hoping he would be dealt for a young starter not named Quintana or Gray. But have to believe our GM trusted his scouts and believe if he thought he could become a superstar he wouldn’t have been dealt as he was shooting up prospect lists. Time will tell if he is any better then Florial,Fowler, Mateo or any other present outfielder on roster.
But supposedly there is a fourth piece going. I am surprised Rutherford wasnt in a package for a young starter .
Priggs89
Wait. You aren’t a scout for Cashman? Weren’t you the one telling us Rutherford was an untouchable star? You had us all convinced he wasn’t going anywhere.
julyn82001
Purest “boss mentality” type of deal…
rycm131
I like Rutherford
Lanidrac
Pfft, Greg Bird ruined the season of Greg Bird even before his injury. Had he not gotten hurt, he’d have likely been optioned back to AAA by now.
pdubs2907
Slight contrarian take, but I’ll preface it by saying I think Hahn is great and I love this trade for him. But I don’t think Cashman got fleeced. The main pieces are Kahnle and Robertson, not Frazier. Getting controlled established pen arms is valuable and Frazier is still helpful. I’d still take the white sox side of the trade, but in 2 years we may be saying something different. Rutherford is young and Clarkin gets hurt a lot, so who knows.
buehrle5687
Also keeps T Frazier out of boston
dust44
For all these Rutherford is untouchable Yankees fans. (I’m a Yankees fan btw, tatted on my body and everything) the untouchables in the franchise as most c it r the guys in AA and AAA like Clint Frazier(before his call up, now he’s very untouchable if there is more then untouchable) Gleybar Torres, Sheffield, Adams and Kap. If those 5 make it with Judge and Sanchez and one of the first base guys the Yankees r in a great position. Hell if Torres, Frazier and one of the pitchers make it and r good they r in great position. The Cubs have traded good prospects (thanks cubbies) and still have young talent. It’s not time to jump off the bridge fellow Yankees fans because of 1 trade. Or even 2 if they go trade a couple more prospects for a starter. As long as it’s not Torres, C Frazier, or the 3 starters they r in good shape.
jdgoat
Those guys are certainly not untouchable. Right now the only one who should be is Frazier
Priggs89
Tito Polo is the 4th guy
Pilzbrydroboy
Not only does this give the White sox another top 50 prospect in baseball. This is gonna help the White Sox lose alot more games and set them up for a top 3 draft pick 2018 and theres other prospects that the Sox have who may be top 100 prospects by next year like 2016,2017 draft picks 3B Jake Burger, RHP Dane Dunning and RHP Alec Hanson…..
billysbballz
That’s always a great plan, lose to get a high pick and create that typical losing mentality which permeates through the organization and it’s hard to reverse. Sets back young players who start pressing. They should start infusing some veteran players in there and not trading them all away
Priggs89
Worked quite well for the Cubs and Astros.
Pilzbrydroboy
Billy how do you think the Cubs drafted Kris Bryant? They lost nearly 100 games
BSPORT
Cashman should flip T. Frazier right after trade for whatever pitching prospect he can get.
billysbballz
??????? What
Richard K
Wow My first thoughts is of the igniting of the Red Sox and Yankees rivalry it seems the Yankees have stole one from the Sox again. Am an Astro fan but it is hardly unnoticeable the resentment between both these teams, organizations and cities.