With next Monday’s 4 p.m. ET trade deadline looming, there’s a chance right-hander Yu Darvish’s start on Wednesday will go down as his last in a Rangers uniform. If that 3 2/3-inning, 10-earned run disaster against Miami does represent the impending free agent’s swan song in Texas, it’ll be a shame for both parties. Darvish has generally been masterful since signing a six-year, $56MM contract in 2012 to emigrate from Japan. The 30-year-old has pitched to a 3.42 ERA and totaled upward of 18 wins above replacement across nearly 800 innings, making his deal well worth the investment for Texas, even when including the $51.7MM posting fee.
Darvish’s pact is now on the verge of expiring, while the Rangers are the owners of a 49-52 record after their 22-10 drubbing at the Marlins’ hands. That uninspiring mark has helped make the Rangers irrelevant in the American League West, which the 67-34 Astros ran away with long ago, but they’re still a manageable 4.5 games out in a parity-laden wild-card race.
With his team tenuously clutching to postseason hopes, Texas general manager Jon Daniels isn’t a lock to sell by Monday. Even if he does, Darvish might not go anywhere. Multiple reports this week have indicated that it would take a godfather offer for Daniels to part with Darvish, whom the Rangers would like to re-sign. And if the team keeps the four-time All-Star through season’s end but isn’t able to prevent him from testing free agency, it would surely make him a qualifying offer in order to receive compensation – a pick after the second round of next year’s draft – for his departure. That wouldn’t be much immediate consolation for the Rangers, but it’s among several factors that could influence them to retain Darvish past the deadline.
Although the Rangers may be content to ride it out with Darvish, pitcher-needy contenders have inquired about the Arlington ace in recent weeks and figure to continue doing so leading up to Monday. As such, there will be opportunities for clubs to pry Darvish away from the Rangers. The Cubs, Dodgers, Astros and Yankees come to the fore as potential landing spots, having already shown interest in Darvish.
In Chicago, Darvish would join Jon Lester, Jake Arrieta, Kyle Hendricks and the just-acquired Jose Quintana to comprise one of the Majors’ most proven rotations. That quintet would more than likely do enough to help the reigning World Series champions fend off the Brewers, Cardinals and Pirates in the National League Central. The Cubs aren’t exactly a flawless fit, though, given that they’re on Darvish’s limited no-trade list and also seem more inclined to chase a controllable starter (such as the Athletics’ Sonny Gray) than give up a prospect bounty for a rental.
As MLBTR’s Mark Polishuk pointed out last week, the Cubs are only a year removed from paying a heavy price for a free agent-to-be, closer Aroldis Chapman, whom they acquired from the Yankees in a deal that included standout infield prospect Gleyber Torres. Picking up Chapman helped the Cubs win their first championship in 108 years, but that doesn’t mean they should continue to deplete their farm system to acquire stopgaps. Further, should the Cubs reach the playoffs with their current rotation, they’d be in more-than-adequate shape, thereby lessening any need for Darvish. While all of Lester, Arrieta, Hendricks and Quintana have failed to replicate their 2016 numbers, that doesn’t make them weak links. The only significant disappointment has been John Lackey, who’s not going to factor into the Cubs’ rotation plans in the postseason.
Meanwhile, the Dodgers and Astros, who possess the two best records in baseball, aren’t hard up for starting help. Nevertheless, the Dodgers’ interest in Darvish was reportedly “serious” even before ace Clayton Kershaw suffered a back injury last Sunday that will keep him out until late August or early September. At an astounding 71-31, the Dodgers can cruise to the NL’s top seed even with Kershaw and Brandon McCarthy on the disabled list, and they still boast four decent to excellent healthy starters in Alex Wood, Rich Hill, Kenta Maeda and Hyun-Jin Ryu.
It’s true that there are durability concerns scattered throughout the Dodgers’ staff, yet Darvish still remains much more of a luxury than a need. Therefore, even with a World Series in their sights, it’s tough to imagine the Dodgers meeting the Rangers’ asking price for Darvish. Los Angeles would probably have to part with one of its most extolled prospects, whether it’s outfielder Alex Verdugo or a young righty in Walker Buehler or Yadier Alvarez, which doesn’t seem like something president Andrew Friedman and GM Farhan Zaidi would do in this instance.
The same applies to Astros GM Jeff Luhnow, who refused for months to budge in a standoff with the White Sox over Quintana. Unlike Darvish, Quintana is under team control at eminently affordable rates through 2020. Nevertheless, Luhnow wouldn’t deal a package including outfielder Kyle Tucker and righty Francis Martes for the southpaw over the winter. Keeping his team’s prospect pool together has worked out nicely for Luhnow, who has seen Houston establish itself as the premier unit in the AL this year.
The Astros have gotten ace-caliber performances along the way from Dallas Keuchel and Lance McCullers (the former has missed notable time with neck issues, though), while Charlie Morton, Brad Peacock and Mike Fiers have provided quality complementary work. The club also just welcomed back bona fide mid-rotation starter Collin McHugh from an elbow issue that kept him out for nearly the entire first four months of the season. All of that is to say there’s enough starting talent on hand to confidently rely on in a playoff series. Consequently, the Astros don’t seem like serious suitors for a couple months of Darvish, and Luhnow has indicated that he’s comfortable with his bevy of current options.
As for the Yankees, with Masahiro Tanaka in the midst of a mediocre to poor year and Michael Pineda having undergone season-ending Tommy John surgery this month, they do have obvious rotation issues. The problem for the Rangers, if you want to call it that, is New York’s eyes have been on Gray far more than Darvish. The only current Yankees starters who are surefire bets to be in their rotation next season are Luis Severino and Jordan Montgomery, as Tanaka could opt out of his deal (which looks improbable, granted) and CC Sabathia is set to become a free agent. Even though Darvish is arguably superior to Gray, then, the latter would perhaps be the more sensible acquisition for a Yankees team that needs to better their starting staff for both this year and the coming seasons.
Beyond those four squads, a match for Darvish is even more difficult to find. Most clubs either occupying wild-card spots or at least hanging around the league’s playoff races – the Royals, Rays, Mariners, Twins, Angels, Orioles, Diamondbacks, Rockies, Brewers, Cardinals and Pirates – don’t look like proper fits for various reasons (mainly weak farm systems and/or low playoff odds).
The Royals have been red hot and are in their last hurrah of contention with the core that helped deliver a championship in 2015, but their farm is lacking enough to impede a Darvish pursuit. Kansas City, which isn’t on Darvish’s no-trade list and has a flaw or two in its rotation, would otherwise be a logical destination.
The Rockies, who have a four-game lead on the NL’s second wild-card position, possess a middle-of-the-pack rotation that would certainly benefit from Darvish’s addition. However, even if Colorado were to make a serious run at Darvish, there’s a large roadblock in that it’s among the teams on his no-trade list. Whether he’d waive that right just to spend the stretch run of his contract year at Coors Field is questionable to say the least.
As first-place teams, the Red Sox, Nationals and Indians look like strong bets to earn playoff berths. They’re hardly clear-cut bedfellows for Darvish, though. Red Sox president Dave Dombrowski is never shy to make a daring move, but the club’s rotation is in fine shape as it is with Chris Sale, David Price, Rick Porcello, Drew Pomeranz and Eduardo Rodriguez in the equation.
Speculatively, the Nationals may have been been a big factor in the Darvish sweepstakes had Stephen Strasburg’s nerve injury been serious. Strasburg’s OK, according to the club, which isn’t in on Darvish. It’s interesting to imagine Darvish teaming with Strasburg and the great Max Scherzer as the Nats’ top three starters come October, but there’s nothing to suggest it’s going to happen.
Cleveland, another place on Darvish’s no-trade list, has come up as a potential suitor for Gray. The Indians have been the beneficiaries of Mike Clevinger’s breakout, but their rotation could still use a surer thing to complement Corey Kluber and Carlos Carrasco. Darvish would provide that, but again, it would mean waving goodbye to acclaimed farm talent for a Band-Aid. That’s something the Indians might not want to do 12 months after sending touted prospects Clint Frazier and Justus Sheffield to the Yankees for Andrew Miller.
Darvish’s next scheduled start is Aug. 1, the day after the deadline, and there’s a legitimate possibility that outing will come in a Rangers uniform. Barring an intrepid move from one of the imperfect fits highlighted above, it seems Darvish and the Rangers will continue their union for at least another two months. Regardless of whether that proves to be the case, the impending free agent will spend the rest of the year making an argument for a mega-deal. With a 4.01 ERA that looks pedestrian in comparison to his marvelous career production, it appears he has work to do on that front. Darvish remains a flamethrowing strikeout maven, though, which means some playoff-bound team could talk itself into paying a ransom for him in the coming days.
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Garza Nathan
Send darvish to the Astros for daz Cameron and alcala
madmanTX
Oh. Wait. You’re serious?
Michael Chaney
That’s too light. The Rangers need to add Odor and Mazara.
tobyharrah1977
You can have Odor. I’ll take a bag of balls and some popcorn in exchange
chesteraarthur
how about a bag full of popcorn balls?
Connorsoxfan
Or a giant popcorn ball full of bags?
Coal tender
Throw in Kyle Tucker and Francis Marte and I would do it.
InvalidUserID
As much as I want the Yankees to grab him, I can’t see them sending top prospects for a rental when they need controllable starters. If all things were equal, Darvish > Gray.
madmanTX
Then no deal for the Yankees. Next
thegreatcerealfamine
If they’re going for it then Darvish>Gray
socalblake
Hill and Ryu are not even close to excellent health starters. I’d say more towards the other end of the spectrum.
dodgerfan711
It said they were healthy at the moment, and were decent starters.
socalblake
“and they still boast four decent to excellent healthy starters in Alex Wood, Rich Hill, Kenta Maeda and Hyun-Jin Ryu.” To me that means there’s a spectrum from decent to excellent in health. I can see it is somewhat ambiguous.
glassml
I agree. Decent starters, healthy at the moment but high risk for staying that way. Local SoCal writers believe the Dodgers look at Yu not as a rental but long term. This is just first step at getting him to LA.
BlueSkyLA
I can’t really agree. All of these starters have either not been injured seriously or their serious injuries are far enough behind them to not be major considerations now. The problem is selecting a top two or three to pitch behind Kershaw in a postseason rotation. Wood has the best potential to rise to that occasion but it remains to be seen, as it does for Hill. Maeda and Ryu are 4-5 pitchers on this team. Maybe one of them gets used in a long series. Darvish solves this problem. Also, the first step to getting him to LA is also the second step. It’s called signing him as a free agent when he becomes one. A qualified offer from the Rangers might give them a slight edge, but only just.
michavez22
Alvarez and Calhoun from the dodgers. Toss in another second tier prospect if you’d like. Dodgers are playing for this year, not for three years down the road. I’m sure that’s when Alvarez will be ready to provide any contribution.
Cam
They’re not just playing for this year. This team is built for the long run with all that young talent. They have a wide open window
jackt
Brewers already relegated to low playoff odds. It was fun while it lasted boys!
madmanTX
Another article to get the fanboys offering up lowball offers and comments about how Darvish isn’t worth anything.
Bleedinblues
Darvish is the best Pitcher that is available to be traded but he is a rental. So he will get a decent return but I just don’t see him getting a Godfather offer. Which is why I see the Rangers holding on to him.
InvalidUserID
He’s absolutely worth it as he’s an ace. The problem is that he’s a free agent so I think most teams would be hesitant to trade their top prospects for a true rental considering he isn’t eligible for a QO so no comp picks. And the flip side is Texas could lose him outright after the season when teams can just sign him and keep their guys.
Now if he was under control for a few more years, by all means, offer up some good farm picks but then Texas wouldn’t be trading him.
Francys01
Last night, he had a bad outing but that will not affect the Rangers if they decide to trade him. The contending teams need to start presenting the best offers to acquire Darvish and then the Rangers will ask if they want a prospect in particular in the deal. In the American League one of my favorite teams is the Rangers, but the best for the team is to trade Darvish, Lucroy and Cashner. If it’s possible Gomez, Ross and possibly some relievers too. The Rangers have a great farm system, but they can make it better.
Poynter3434
Nap too
willi
The Dodgers grab Darvish for two Type a Projects and two more Kids that are maybe’s !
rycm131
Adding Darvish is similar to adding Verlander. You’re paying for what they were, not for what they are. Why would a team give up anything significant for that? At best they are 3rd starters and more likely a 4 or 5
daniel_meraz
Darvish a 3rd or 4th starter?? He’s a 1st or 2nd in any rotation
rycm131
In any rotation?
gammaraze
I don’t think someone who suggests that a perennial all-star putting up his first season of 4+ ERA (4.01) is a 5th starter gets a come back when they get called out on it. The ONLY rotation Darvish is a 5th starter in is the All-Star team.
baseball lifer
You act like Darvish and Verlander are 45 years of age…. What they were??? Come on. Both are very quality SP’s who would benefit any starting rotation/team.
rycm131
They are expensive and your paying for what they were. It’s like Roy Halladay at the end. More legend than reality
baseball lifer
Darvish is not expensive. Check your numbers again.
gammaraze
Yep, the Phillies SURE got fleeced on those 640 innings of 2.91 ERA ball before that final year… Guess that Cy Young wasn’t worth it…
KnicksFanCavsFan
Yes. An Alfa Romeo 4C is a beautiful sexy car. Sophia Loren was an incredible sexy woman. However, I’m not paying the same price for the Romeo with 100,000 miles on it as I would one with 10,000 miles on it. I would’ve wined and dined Sophia Loren back in the 60’s-70’s but in 2017 I’m taking her to Apple Bees.
Ok with all due seriousness, teams MUST value Verlander at his current 4.50 ERA and his .5.32 road ERA. And I know FIP and xFIP are more relevant metrics but those metrics are for me to use to analyze my risk and to gauge whether or not I feel he can outperform his past results NOT for me the buyer to excuse his recent history of on field performance. That’s a BIG distinction people have to understand.
If I’m buying a used car I want to know what’s wrong with the car and figure out if I can expect it to run at a high performance level. But if the car is currently sitting on cinder blocks and can’t make it around the block then guess what…I’m paying the as is cost. Verlander is NOT elite as of July 27th and I’m not paying for last year or his overall lure.
mlbleaguer
Good for you as your team sits on the sidelines during the playoffs. Verlander is the difference between making the playoffs and wishing you would have when you had the chance. A TRUE general manager makes the move and worries about tomorrow, which may never come. Take advantage when you get into the playoff picture.
KnicksFanCavsFan
Ok so a “good” GM ignores what Verlander is doing currently and instead values his name and what he did last year? Oh yeah…smart GM. Those are the mistakes the Yakees made in the 80’s and early 90’s.
PS-Let me know how if you wish to discuss his sterling 0-3 record and 7+ ERA in the world series too.
KnicksFanCavsFan
As for Darvish, for the month of July he has a 7.00+ ERA and a 4.79 FIP. That has to dampen his value. Sorry guys. I have Darvish for maybe 10 starts in the regular season. If July is a trend then how can I not factor that into what I’m offering? I don’t have the benefit of stretching his “downs” over the course of a full season. I need him to hit the ground running and be dominant for all 10 of those starts. What about July should make any team feel that’s likely? I guarantee you if we was 5-0 with a 1.50 ERA in July the Ranger’s would likely want even more than they want now., Works both ways.
BlueSkyLA
True, this.
rycm131
Glad someone agrees
gammaraze
If you value a one month sample size that much, then there’s no way you’re considering adding him in free agency, in which case, you shouldn’t be interested in him at all.
KnicksFanCavsFan
You’re missing my point. I didn’t say “don’t trade for him”. I’m not saying that about Darvish nor Verlander. What I am saying is that we shouldn’t value either (especially Verlander) as if they are currently performing like dominant aces.
tobyharrah1977
You sir need help
Just Another Fan
I agree 100% with what he says, I’ve watched Darvish pitch against my A’s many, many times, and he used to be good but now he’s not nearly as close to his old self. Once the Rangers trade Darvish I wouldn’t be surprised to see them start stringing together some wins.
cubsfan2489
You’re a moron JAF
gregn213
Dodgers’ management explained long ago that their goal is to assemble a team that can get into the playoffs every team for a long time. The game is being dominated now by youngsters. Anything can happen during the playoffs, bad hops, bad calls, average players having incredible streaks, injuries, etc. The Dodgers don’t want to end up like the Giants. One parade isn’t worth spending the next few years looking up from the cellar.
dodgerfan711
Exactly. Dodgers at least make the world series with cole hamels in 2015. They would have had to trade bellinger and urias which isnt worth 1 ring. The front office has created a window that is not closing any time soon
baseball lifer
Many would trade the entire farm, for a World Series ring. After all, you play the game to win it all, not to hoard prospects in effort to win Baseball America’s Top Farm Ranking.
baseball lifer
One parade is worth it…. Do you realize how hard it is to win the World Series??? THe Dodgers have not been to the WS since 1988. Thats 29 years. If you have a legit chance at the series, you do it. If that mean trading so high-caliber prospects you do it. After all, a prospect is just a prospect. 15-25% pan out, and a very small percentage of that amount to be all-star level players.
dodgerfan711
I know prospects are prospects but friedman has earned the benifit of the doubt for the prospects they believe in. Seager and Bellinger are franchise cornerstones. 1 ring is was not worth trading them. Seager is already on the hall of fame pathway
baseball lifer
Fair enough. But do you realize since the last WS the dodgers have run out over 30 different shortstops. Many of them were notable prospects at that time. And with the exception of a few year of R Furcal, none of which amounted to anything. Like I said earlier, the odds of a player being good is 15-20%. Bellinger/Seager are nice, but this list of “he is untouchable” bust is miles and miles long (for any team).
Aril
Maybe you are right a lot of top prospects dont become stars but if dodgers make the Hamels trade they could be with a hole in ss and with no ws ring, and we dont go too far if they trade Belli for Dozier right now we probably had a 2b hitting 230, and big hole in 1b with Adrian injury
Sam.rhodes16
“Seager is already on the HOF pathway.” I’m sorry, but that’s rose-colored homerism to the absolute max. He has 1200 MLB PA’s so far. He had an amazing rookie season, absolutely. But declaring him already on the path to HOF is asinine and ridiculous. Let the kid play more than one full season before making such grandiose, absurd claims.
tobyharrah1977
Try three parades
jleve618
It would be kind of funny if that was his last start as a ranger. Compare it to Hamels last start before becoming one, a no hitter.
pikeypike
Rangers need to start the rebuild for the new stadium- trade darvish , lucroy, Napoli, cashner , Gomez
daniel_meraz
not Gomez… he can stay and resign
Just Another Fan
Or you could trade him and then resign him, just use your head.
Justin Hughes
Being a Rangers fan I’ve seen prospects come and go from trades. Prospects like Justin Smoak, Nick Williams, Lewis Brinson, CJ Edwards, Kyle Kendricks and many others. Like all the Dodger Yankee, and Astro fans I never wanted to see them go but in order to get something you have to give up something. If you think Darvish is a crap pitcher then do not trade for him but if you think Darvish will help your team advance or win a WS then you have to be willing to meet some of our demands in trades.
I would love to get either one of Buehler or Verdugo from the Dodgers. I would then add in 2 pitching prospects in the 10-20 range in their farm system and maybe a low level prospect that a scout loves. That would be like Buehler (1), Trevor Oaks (16), Brock Stewart (10), and Carlos Rincon (29).
I think that is a fair deal. The Rangers would love a mega package back but they won’t get 2 top 5 in any system prospects. The Dodgers just have to give up one elite prospect and they get Darvish to help their WS run.
dodgerfan711
There is no way the dodgers trade Walker Buehler for yu darvish alone. They are very high on him and wont give up his entire team control for 2 months of darvish. Let alone adding oaks and stewart in the deal. At this point Stewart has even earned the respect of no longer being some mid level prospect arm. He has been pitching extremely well at the MLB level for some time now. Dodgers could be willing to part with calhoun or alverez
tobyharrah1977
Prospects are just that. Prospects, maybe’s. Be careful with your philosophy of not trading them for established performers. Darvish is just that, established. Buehler is just someone to wish upon. He is one arm injury away from being just another prospect gone bust. I know because as a Rangers fan Profar is the perfect example. Sometimes you have to have the intestinal fortitude to go for it before your chance blows away like a fart in the wind.
dodgerfan711
Buehler already had TJS so his arm is relatively fresh. You can literally say “an injury away” to just about any pitcher that has ever played the game. Darvish isn’t max scherzer. His ERA is not very good and he is coming off a start where he gave up 10 ER. That is a red flag to just go out there and give up buehler. Not even mentioning stewart and oaks too. As a ranger fan you saw first hand what happens when you go all in. The playoffs are a crapshoot and all the trades they made last season backfired
BlueSkyLA
A catastrophic start right on the verge of the trade deadline sure doesn’t help the Rangers’ case for what he returns, but it probably doesn’t red flag a trade entirely. What it might do though is convince the Rangers that they should hang onto him somewhat longer and maybe try to get him through waivers in August.
dug
Its understandable they have untouchable players like Buehler. I still think the Dodgers get it done because of the overall quality of their farm. The Rangers haven’t been that great at drafting lately so I would rather take a couple prospects from LA than take the pick.
chesteraarthur
MLB players are all prospects at one time. This “they are just prospects” argument was stupid the first time it was proposed and continues to be to this day. Their uncertainty is factored into how each team values them. Saying that they might not work out is not some revolutionary thought process. We all know.
Deciding whether to trade them or not also does not simply go back to whether you think they will bust or not. There is always opportunity cost. Perhaps using these particular ones on a rental starter isn’t the best use of their value.
gammaraze
Are you serious? “Get him through waivers in August”? Yeah, that’s not happening. ANY team in the wild card hunt would gladly take the rest of his contract (roughly $3.7M).
BlueSkyLA
What part of “maybe try” was confusing to you?
Players on waivers can also be traded to a claiming team, you know. Or he can be pulled back if they don’t get what they want. Or maybe you don’t know.
clintwolfron
Would love to see Darvish in a Twins uniform
Polish Hammer
Taking the bump every 6th night for 2 months with no compensation when he leaves is not worth an elite prospect.
slider32
Darvish has had 4 poor outings in a row, I would take Gray!
Aril
Why the article only talk about Dodgers prospects but not the other 3 teams Im interested to know what could the other teams could give up to get Yu
baseball lifer
Guessing because the Dodgers match up better given the SP need TEX has.
Not sure TEX would deal Darvish to the rival Astro’s.
NYY and CHC do not have the SP prospects to compare Buehler/Alvarez at this time.
gammaraze
More like the Astros wouldn’t be willing to match the in-division asking price.
Schroeder
Dodgers for Verdugo, Alvarez and Calhoun
Kershiser
Zero chance, That package would get gray, or maybe most of the way to Archer or Stroman so what on earth would be the motivation to give all that for a rental? Rangers will get one of those at most.
coach him
“Next Monday’s”. No it’s Mondays trade deadline. Next Monday is August 7.
ntmartin2010
Darvish and Matt Bush for Verdugo/Buehler, Alvarez and a couple mid-to-low tier prospects.
dodgerfan711
Awful package. Rangers at the absolute most get 1 of the dodgers big 4. Not 3
ntmartin2010
I didn’t say 3 of the Dodgers big 4, hence “/”. Verdugo OR Buehler would just be the headliner prospect
Kershiser
Not going to get either one of those. Friedman will walk away from the table like he did the last two years when everyone wanted Seager, Bellinger, and Urias, The most he’s going to give up for a rental is Alvarez OR Calhoun. And if that’s a deal killer he’ll let the deal die.
ntmartin2010
I didn’t say 3 of the 4, hence “/”. They would get Buehler OR Verdugo, Alvarez and mid-to-low tier prospects. My guess would be Verdugo over Buehler
panickingcalmly
The Rockies, Red Sox, and Cubs are on Darvish’s no-trade list.
Tanner Larson
Darvish to the Dodgers
verlander stays put
Gray to the Mariners
Kintzler to the Red Sox
Santana to the Astros
Coal tender
I think Ervin Santana would be a formidable acquisition for the Astros over Darvish.
Richard K
Darvish would be foolish from anyone including the dodgers thinking they can resign him. He purchased a very expensive house near by Arlington which means he has taken up roots which also means he is more likely to resign with the rangers this off season much like Chapman did with NY