The Yankees had a scout on hand to watch Rangers ace Yu Darvish’s eight-inning, 12-strikeout performance in Tampa Bay on Friday, leading to speculation that the Bombers have interest in the right-hander. That is indeed the case, per FanRag’s Jon Heyman, who reports that the Yankees have reached out to the Rangers about Darvish. They’ve also been in contact with the Athletics regarding righty Sonny Gray and the Braves concerning southpaw Jaime Garcia.
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The connection to Gray isn’t anything new, as Heyman reported earlier this week that the Athletics have “named their price” for the 27-year-old in discussions with New York. The A’s want “top guys” in exchange for Gray, while the same applies to the Rangers if they’re going to trade Darvish, writes Heyman. Darvish is only a rental, whereas Gray’s controllable through 2019, but the former’s track record suggests he’d make the greater impact down the stretch. His presence would obviously benefit the Yankees, who hold a wild-card spot in the American League, but they’re not eager to part with the best prospects in their well-regarded system, relays Heyman, who suggests that outfielder Clint Frazier, infielder Gleyber Torres and lefty Justus Sheffield aren’t going anywhere. The Yankees “probably” won’t move righty James Kaprielian, either, tweets Heyman. It’s an open question, then, whether they’d be able to put together an appealing enough offer for the coveted Darvish.
While Garcia would undoubtedly bring back the worst return among this trio, he’s nonetheless garnering plenty of interest. The 31-year-old impending free agent wouldn’t provide the Yankees with another front-of-the-rotation presence to complement No. 1 starter Luis Severino. However, Garcia would help make up for the loss of Michael Pineda, who underwent season-ending Tommy John surgery earlier this month, and give the team a credible back-end option to slot in behind Severino, Masahiro Tanaka, CC Sabathia and Jordan Montgomery.
Need to get Gray
Need to be willing to give up a “top guy” to do that, aka Frazier or Torres.
Mateo is a top prospect he’s just as good as Torres and I’d trade Sheffield. Mateo, Sheffield, and 2 lower level guys for Gray and Alonso that’s more than enough.
Mateo is “just as good as Torres”.
I’m sick of delusional Yankees fans. If he is just as good then you’d have no problem trading Torres..
Cashman is the one who said he thinks Mateo is better than Torres in a interview he did with WFAN I heard the entire interview get a clue when you post a comment.
Mateo has a lot of potential, but he hasn’t shown it. He’s hitting great after being promoted, but wasn’t before then. He’s not Torres.
Lmao!!
Mateo isnt anywhere near the same level as Torres. His stock has fallen a lot
the guy dropped out of the top 100 prospect list and you’re using the GM of the team that would be trying to trade him as your proof? to quote you… “get a clue”.
Cash men was and is posturing to enhance his value
How often has he gone on WFAN and said “there is no way anyone would trade for that bum of ours, he’s terrible”?
You mean the same Torres who struggled in A ball and earned his status based on AFL, AA and AAA? That same Torres?
How is Mateo just as good as Torres? And Torres did not struggle in A ball
I am a Yankee fan and I agree. Mateo may turn out to be as good as Torres, but he surely isn’t now.
Of course. Correct.
Disagree. He’s not Sale. He’s not even Quintana. He very likely takes two top 100 prospects but I doubt he demands a top 10 or even a top 20 or 30. If the Yankees put Mateo, Adams and say, a Florial or Andujar in there, the A’s would take it. The Yankees just wouldn’t do that, and that’s why we have no deal.
LOL no thanks. Torres and Clint are worth substantially more than Sonny Gray who is already a concern in NYS. Yankees have the 2nd best farm in baseball. Their #10 is probably a #3 on most teams. I’m perfectly content missing the playoffs entirely this season since we weren’t supposed to be good anyway, keeping the top prospects, and going on an absolutely shopping spree in 2 off-seasons from now. Even with Fernandez gone, that off-season will have Keuchel, Kershaw, Richards, etc. Hell, we can also buy Darvish and Otani this off-season. They will need to settle on a Fowler/Mateo type of package or else they can go elsewhere. Yankees hold all the power in this negotiation.
If you think Kershaw is getting paid by anyone other than LA, you’re kidding yourself pal.
I totally agree..no way Kershaw will be out there.
Their #10 is probably a #3 on most teams.Â
There it is.
I agree. I feel like I’d be fine if they dealt Sheffield for Gray. Most of the scouts I’ve read don’t project him as a front of the rotation starter anyway. But what do I know. I’d love to snag Yu though.
No we don’t. We need to hold the rest of our prospects and just buy Darvish or Otani this off-season and buy Keuchel, Kershaw, and/or Richards the following.
As for this trade…good riddance to Refsnyder.
Guaranteed it would cost the Yankees Clint Frazier
Not for the Yankees’ top prospects. That would be silly. Cashman won’t do that.
Good on Cashman for being unlikely to trade any of those guys.
So according to this article the Yankees top trade chip will be chance Adams….
Mateo, Florial, and Fowler are also top 100-ish prospects.
Top 100-ish doesn’t net you a rental ace or a controllable TORP
Actually it most certainly does net a rental ace.
No it doesn’t…
Yes it does
Meh
I don’t think they want a rental, but may end up doing that because of the cost. I don’t think the A’s are going to get what they want from any other team right now. Maybe their demands will change closer to the deadline.
Yanks acquire Gray and Alonso
A’s acquire Mateo, Sheffield, 2 minor lower level prospects.
Good trade for both teams.
I like Sheffield, but I’d be good with that trade. It seems like Gray’s health and decline in velocity may cause the price to be a little lower.
I still think somehow the Yanks get Gray without giving up Torres or Frazier.
Not correct. Gray still throws mid 90’s, just like he has since he 1st came up. I believe his problems came up with an injury and command of his secondaries last season, tho oakland fans may elaborate more on this and he’s had problems more with so called 1st division teams over the coarse of his career and eaten alive weaker teams.
Would you do that deal for Teheran & Adams ?
First off that offer doesn’t get Gray/Alonso. Second no again on Adams let alone Teheran.
A’s laugh you all the way to the bank hahhahah
Dude that wouldn’t cut it,and I’m a Yankee fan.
Frazier, Mateo, Acevedo & 2 more outside of top 20 prospects for Gray, Lowrie & Alonso & a couple million to cover some of Lowrie.
Why even take lowrie then. They have Frazier and headley to play 3B. There’s no room on the roster for lowrie.
And a partridge in a pear tree..dude that makes no sense.
Braves will let garcia go for Judge
Yea you’re funny. Yankees wouldn’t trade judge for stanton
To people griping what prospects are worth in a trade, get a life let the gm’s do their job and move on. You have no clue what the real value is and saying “we need blank in return” or “we would never give up blank” is just ignorant and stupid.
Then go to another sports site other then one about TRADE RUMORS. Lighten up Francis.
Garcia, Adams & Teheran for Betances & Romine
Nnnnfffppptttt….
No… nothing remotely appealing about that return. Frazier or bust. No need to trade Teheran at al
What/who would the Yanks seriously need to deal to get Yu? I know he’s an ace with a relatively small salary. But the Ranger can only get a pick after the 2nd round if Yu declines a QO. Wouldn’t that deflate his value some? It’s hard for me to imagine it costing what some on here are saying. Thoughts?
Aroldis Chapman was also a rental last year and netted a huge return, so you’d have to imagine that Darvish would command a similar or greater return
Why is that? Chapman is a lefty reliever. Yu is a rightly starter. Apples and oranges. Hard throwing lefty relievers are a rare commodity.
How can you beat out a package for the #3 prospect in baseball? Darvish might land them chance Adams or Sheffield. And you ought to be very happy with that
Torres wasn’t a top 5 prospect at the time. He was closer to 20 iirc
Yea but the qualifying offer provision was a lot better. Before teams got a 1st round pick a pick at the end of the second is a big difference and should, hear me “should” impact the value return.
No on Darvish unless he agrees to a contract. Put Tanaka on ice for the remainder of the season and maybe he ops out
I believe if that Yanks could acquire Yu Darvish it he could be huge down the stretch but i think he could also spark Tanaka to pitch a little better. These guys have history from Japan.
“but i think he could also spark Tanaka to pitch a little better” based on what?
Bushido
Everybody seems to want their team to trade for a high end player, but doesn’t wanna give up top end talent. Strange.
Well when you deal with the A’s that’s what you expect just look at Donaldson deal
Yankees made a good trade to ditch the declining Rutherford, but let’s stop now. Gray is worrisome in NYS and in general at this point. Yankees weren’t supposed to be contenders anyway. Let them squeeze into the playoffs or miss it entirely without more trades. If A’s give up Gray for a package headlined by Mateo, Fowler, Andujar, or Wade…then maybe. Otherwise, let it go. We will go on a shopping spree 2 off-seasons from now. We may even get Darvish or Otani this off-season. But we will certainly buy Harper and Keuchel 2 off-seasons from now.
Could you post this 3 more times while you’re at it to go with the other times you said this?
Repeating yourself doesn’t make your point more valid.
Funny stuff your dudeness!
Teheran going to b rocking those pinstripes soon and Adams and maybe even Garcia and Viz
Garcia, Teheran, Viz, Adams, Philips for Judge. Yankees get the pitching they need, both in the rotation and bullpen, Adams will hit for a lot of power at Yankee stadium, Philips provides veteran leadership. Yankees win the world series this year and the Braves get a somewhat overrated prospect while his value is way up. Win-Win.
Sigh, why are some of my Braves brethren so dense?
Some of those Braves have value, but you want the hottest hitter in baseball who is really young and cheap. Its like saying I’ll trade you 4 dollars for a hundred dollar bill. 4 > 1 right?
Lay off these boards for awhile
Does anyone on this website have any sense of humor? I mean if you can’t tell that he is joking right there then I really don’t know what to tell ya.
Unfortunately I have found out more often than not people on here are serious about ridiculous comments rather than trying to make a sarcastically funny comment.
I can appreciate some sarcastic humor but I don’t take any comments for granted any more, unless I can blatantly tell there is sarcasm.
it was a joke… obviously…
Lolololololol no thanks.
An “overrated” prospect that you’re willing the deal the team for. Makes sense?
The A’s have “named their price” to the Yankees, which the Yankees have obviously not accepted up to this point. That means Torres or Frazier is headlining the deal otherwise the Yankees would have accepted it already.
Uh if the Yankees wouldn’t even trade Kaprillian in a Gray trade then they’re not getting him. Very refreshing to see some YANKEE fans commenting here that actually get it. The goal is to win the World Series not collect the most prospects and not win.
As a Yankees fan I’m all about trading prospects for a starter, but Gray isn’t worth Torres or Frazier. I’d be cool with anyone else, Torres showed he is likely a stud and Frazier is the 2nd best OF on the Yankees right now. Why in the world would we deal him PLUS other pieces like some of the clowns are saying we need to. That makes 0 sense. I think the Yanks need to capitalize on huge years that a lot of guys are having and snag a starter, but giving Torres or Frazier plus other pieces for a starter with injury concerns seems stupid. If Sheff or Kap with a few others in the 10-20 range can get it done let’s do it, but giving up future all stars? Nah I’m good.
I was with you on your well thought out argument right up until the “future all-star thing” and all your credibility evaporated. The moment I see someone call a prospect a future all-star, even the #1 ranked one in baseball, I collectively face palm. We can all debate a prospect’s future value, but for the love of God please NEVER flat out declare any prospect a future all-star.
Lol read any prospect publication they all say that Torres and Frazier are future all stars. Do you face palm every time Keith Law says it? lol I’m far from a talent evaluator and don’t claim to be, but when multiple professional talent evaluators are saying something it’s probably true. And makes it fair game to say. To relax big guy.
Yes I do. Saying you think someone will be a good major leaguer is one thing but all-star is another. And I am relaxed about my view. Kieth Law gets a lot wrong. He didn’t even have Ronald Acuna in his top 100 before the year, the only major prospect evaluater to do so, now he is in his top 10. Whoops.
My bad didn’t realize you were such an expert. I love guy who are key board warriors who think they know more then guys who get paid! Thumbs up on your awesomeness dude!
Let’s be realistic.The Yankees are not going to win the The World Series this year. Trading away any top tier prospects would be foolhardy.I like Sonny Gray but there are questions about his durability. If you could obtain Jaime Garcia. for second tier prospects it might be worth it just to make the season more interesting. I prefer to focus on 2018 and 2019 and take the patient approach.
I’m not a Yanks fan but I also see it the way you do. The starting pitching just isn’t there. Sign Darvish and another starter over the winter to go with the young talent you have. I never expected the Yankees to do anything this year. It’s a bonus but I wouldn’t say it’s time yet. Patience it hasn’t hit its peak
Would you do Garcia for Fowler, considering the injury and possibility it affects his future defensive and baserunning value? If not how about we include Jim Johnson.
Second offer; Garcia and a more controllable Vizcaino, who has been really good when healthy (he’s healthy currently) for Florial. Even though Vizzy has a decent number of DL stints they have all been minor injuries.
Someone I want to say Gibbons posted about trading Ellsbury I think a Ellsbury for Jordan Zimmerman trade could help both teams.
Detroit gets a OF which covers if J Up leaves
Yankees get a SP who has done well just hasnt done too well this season.
Idk if it was on here but that was just suggested by Olney in an article he wrote today.
Thats what it was I think it would be a solid trade even if Zimmerman could only be relied on as a #3/4th rotation guy. Soon there would be no spot for Ellsbury even as a platoon OF(especially for that price) and Zimmerman as a 3/4 looks alot better for the Yankees. I think Ellsbury in LF if Upton leaves or in center wouldnt be bad.
Front end of the rotation pitching is not something you pick up on the cheap late in the season. The really top starters are generally developed from within over a period of years. Possibly Severino could become one. Longer shots would be Chance Adams ,Sheffield and Kaprelian. in 2018 and 2019.. When you buy or trade for some other teams pitcher you never know what they may have left. A pitchers arm can go bad at any moment ,particularly when that arm has logged a lot of innings.Better to take the slow approach and develop our own “Aces”.
I think the Yanks should go get Garcia, and Adams. Obviously cause I’m a braves fan and don’t think we need Adams and want to get something in return for Garcia. but this also gives the yanks exactly what they desperately need without selling their farm to make it happen. TF and Bird are not the answer at first. They are both terrible.
Adams isn’t an everyday option at 1B either – he rarely is playing vs. LHP for ATL allowing them to utilize Carmago more and his .320 bat and Swiss Army versatility. I don’t care what lightning in a bottle ATL captured with Adams, they’re not going to fool the rest of the league he’s an everyday option just like they haven’t with Matt Kemp when he was steadily hitting and you didn’t hear about his ailing legs everyday.
adams is most definitely an everyday option on this yanks team and it’s ridiculous to think otherwise. That’s how bad their options are in new york..