The Red Sox made their first addition of the summer on Tuesday night, acquiring infielder Eduardo Nunez from the Giants in exchange for minor league right-handers Shaun Anderson and Gregory Santos. Both teams have announced the deal. Word of the swap first leaked out after Nunez was shown leaving the Giants’ dugout to a series of hugs from his teammates on tonight’s broadcast (video link via Alex Pavlovic of CSN Bay Area).
Third base has been a clear area of need for the Red Sox this season, as Pablo Sandoval was finally released midway through the third season of his five-year contract and Brock Holt has been plagued by injuries throughout the year. Boston dealt Travis Shaw to the Brewers this offseason and has been relying on a platoon of light-hitting Deven Marrero and Tzu-Wei Lin at the hot corner in recent weeks, and Boston third basemen entered play tonight hitting a collective .226/.278/.317.
Of course, the third base outlook in Boston changed radically just this week when the team decided to call upon top prospect Rafael Devers to get his first taste of the Majors. Devers ranks as one of the game’s five or six best prospects and has torn through minor league pitching at a .311/.377/.578 pace thus far in 2017. However, Devers is also just 20 years old and has scarcely played in Triple-A, so the Sox may yet feel that he needs more development in the minors before he can be relied upon to man the hot corner in a pennant race.
If Devers does ultimately prove to be capable of handling the spot, Nunez’s defensive versatility will still carry plenty of value for the Red Sox down the stretch. Nunez can provide depth both at shortstop and second base, and he has a bit of experience in the corner outfield as well. That flexibility would help to keep a number of Boston regulars fresh in the season’s final months, though the team’s exact plans with respect to Nunez and Devers aren’t yet clear. Anything from a platoon arrangement to a return trip to Triple-A Pawtucket could reasonably be on the table, though it’s certainly worth noting that the Red Sox’ press release announcing the move labeled Nunez as a “utility player” rather than strictly referencing him as a third baseman.
The 30-year-old Nunez hasn’t shown the power he displayed when he smacked a career-high 16 home runs last season — the extra time in the pitcher-friendly AT&T Park certainly can’t help his cause in that regard — but he’s been a generally solid offensive player. He’s hitting .307/.331/.413 through 315 plate appearances with San Francisco and has knocked four homers and 20 doubles to go along with a 17-for-22 mark in stolen base attempts. He’s also an extremely tough strikeout (9.1 percent) and, as Tim Britton of the Providence Journal points out (via Twitter), Nunez’s acquisition gives the Red Sox the three players with Major League Baseball’s lowest strikeout rates (Mookie Betts, Nunez and Dustin Pedroia).
Nunez is earning $4.2MM this year (with about $1.56MM of that sum remaining) and will hit the open market as a free agent for the first time this winter. He’s a pure rental for the Sox, but with Devers already in the Majors and widely believed to be the team’s third baseman of the future, Boston never seemed likely to pay the higher price for any third base options that are controllable beyond the current season.
The 22-year-old Anderson was Boston’s third-round selection in last year’s draft and currently ranks 18th among Red Sox prospects, per MLB.com’s newly updated top 30 list. The 22-year-old worked as a reliever at the University of Florida, though MLB.com’s Jim Callis and Jonathan Mayo note in their report that they feel he has enough pitches to make it as a starter. The Red Sox have been trying him in that role, as he’s worked to a 3.99 ERA with 7.4 K/9 against 2.8 BB/9 with a 42.4 percent ground-ball rate in Class-A Advanced this season.
Santos is just 17 years of age and is currently in his second season with Boston’s affiliate in the Dominican Summer League. Through 30 innings this season he has a 0.90 ERA with a 24-to-15 K/BB ratio and a comically high 82.1 percent ground-ball rate. He posted a 60.6 percent grounder rate in 44 1/3 innings at the same level last season.
FOX’s Ken Rosenthal first reported that Nunez was going to Boston (on Twitter). USA Today’s Bob Nightengale tweeted that Nunez would net the Giants a pair of minor league pitchers. The Boston Globe’s Alex Speier reported that Anderson and Santos were the two prospects in the deal (Twitter link).
Photo courtesy of USA Today Sports Images.
TheChanceyColborn
I liked him, but all good things come to an end I guess.
angie
I agree
liamsfg
I was at tonights Giants game. He got hit by a pitch early in the game and it looked bad but he turned out to be okay.
When he left I thought it was related to this, didn’t know he was traded until I left.
jimmyz
Taking that pitch off his elbow did look bad but then he smacked a double opposite field to the wall his next at bat, I’d be happy to have him if I were a Sox fan.
jleve618
Was crazy, 15 minutes ago mlb metwork found out and they called kenny live on air. He responded “I’ll find out where”. Was intense, haha.
GoRockies
Ha I was watching also. Amsigner is hilarious
staxxxxxxxxx
MLBN > ESPN by light years
hiflew
In other obvious news, the sky is blue.
dodgerfan711
ESPN is only for people who like college football and the warriors/cavs. They stink
jleve618
Was gonna say when college football is in they are good, but then figured I wouldn’t bother. TILL NOW, haha.
CardsNation5
Facts
Chris Sale Amateur Tailor
Obviously they won’t have as good of coverage as a channel who only does baseball
66TheNumberOfTheBest
MLBN is better than every other sports network combined.
It’s so good, it’s made the NHLN better.
liamsfg
I enjoy MLBN and NBATV its the only sports I follow intensely and ESPN is mostly filler.
But its all about ESPN8 “The Ocho.”
morgannyy 2
I thought ESPN only did the NBA
thegreatcerealfamine
NFL-NFL…NFL
bill h
🙂
Ryan Golden
And water is still wet.
66TheNumberOfTheBest
Millar’s act is getting a bit stale, but I still like him and everyone else at MLBN except for that tool Mark DeRosa.
Hot Stove is my favorite show on MLBN and MLB Central is my least favorite. I thought it was because I prefer trade talk to game recaps, etc. but I’m starting to realize it’s more just that DeRosa is a tool.
jleve618
They’re in good form tonight, a little weird but you can’t say it’s not entertaining, haha.
chesteraarthur
Amsinger is a live action click bait w0re. Can’t stand him
JKurk22
I actually agree with you on something. Wow
thegreatcerealfamine
Turn the channel..geesh
redsoxu571
Greg Amsinger is on my short list of public people with whom I’d love to get a beer. And that MLB Tonight segment was amazing, late enough at night that the story wasn’t already out there, but they were still able to see that a trade had happened and drum up an answer.
jleve618
Exactly, see when Kenny came on and said they woke him from bed? Hilarious.
TwinsHomer
Keep your helmet on bro
Austin0723
And now I wait to see what Dave has done to our farm system for the next 15-30 mins
jimtam323
I saw this and got really happy, but now I’m in the same boat waiting to see what top level talent he could have possible shipped away. The second dombrowski see’s a prospect his mouth waters and he immediately thinks about what he can get for them.
Stedson
This is the nerve racking part for every six fan
redsoxu571
Given the seeming price of bats, especially ones set for FA, I doubt it was anything special. My bet is on Jalen Beeks (though I wouldn’t be too fond of that).
User 4245925809
Beeks alone would have been too much and in the end, it turns out right.. Anderson was a nothing and waste of a 3rd round pick last year with Santos too far down to make heads or tails of yet. Real wild card as a 17YO doing nicely in the DSL.. About right for a FA to be utility guy that is Nunez.
What it DOES do is allow Boston to finally get Marrero off the 25 man roster.
libbo
Dude I just don’t get all this worrying about trading away minor leaguers. Granted, Moncada & Kopech look like they’ll be good big league players but in exchange for an ace like Sale? That trade was a no brainer. Speaking of prospects,you do realize that just 2 years ago (2015) our top two prospects were Blake Swihart (#6 in Babseball Prospectus) and Henry Owens (#18). Thank God we didn’t trade those prospects… listen, it’s not like Dombrowski is making a Bagwell for Anderson trade…
Houston We Have A Solution
He made a nunez for anderson trade.
Anonymous 6
Thanks for everything Eduardo
Chris Sale Amateur Tailor
Yankees HAVE to do something now
Eric D.
Uhm they already got Frazier and two relievers lol
kylewait89
Frazier hit into a triple play today. He’s also hitting .210…scratch that .203 currently. I think the “have to” is the reported trade for Alonso and Gray. Which if they pull off is great for them. Will piss me off as a fan of Boston but I would be impressed if they smartened up and got those guys,
vwnut13
Todd Frazier: 1.4 rWAR
Eduardo Nunez: 0.1 rWAR
padresfan
I’d take Nunez any day over Frazier
capnfatback
I’m curious: why did you not include their fWAR numbers?
Frazier: 0.9 fWAR
Nunez: 1.1 fWAR
andm
Thats exactly why I didn’t want Sox signing Frazier. Can barely stay above .200 and has like 30 more SO than hits. Garbage. Not worth the once-in-awhile homerun
Ken M.
Todd Frazier Yankee rWAR: -0.1*
thegreatcerealfamine
You’re angles WAR -5
libbo
WAR is not a real statistic! Even the 3 sources who calculate WAR use different formulas and different ratings for defense! PLEASE STOP THIS WAR MANIA. Even the creators of WAR puta red flag caution in their introduction to their Baby saying clearly that WAR SHOULD NOT BE USED FOR SINGLE SEASON COMPARISONS so please stop with the WAR talk!
liamsfg
Seriously. Take these formulas and shove it.
According to WAR the unsung heroes of every world series victory aren’t worth keeping around.
MB923
Pretty sure he was being sarcastic
kleppy12
Also what position is Nunez in that WAR calculation? is it against SS where he isn’t as good defensively or 3B where he doesn’t have as much power? However, take into consideration (as the article points out) that he can play 5 positions and he becomes a much more valuable player.
halos101
they did…
dodgerfan711
Why they already jumped the gun on boston to get fraizer?
CardsNation5
Lol
wiggysf
Nobody guessed this.
RiverCatsFilms
Two pitching prospects for Nunez
Brixton
Plays four positons, has speed and is a nice insurance policy for Devers. Love it for them. Hes the sneaky bench piece that can effect you in the playoffs off the bench
jgm1w11
Good Giant. Glad he’s going somewhere with a playoff chance this season. He will be missed.
MB923
To platoon with Devers I guess (no this is not written yet in the article as I type this)
Hiro
Is Denvers a LH hitter?
staxxxxxxxxx
Denver’s a city in Colorado. Devers bats left-handed, but you probably knew that since it only takes five seconds to Google it yourself.
rascalking
Yes
Connorsoxfan
Dude you’re so dumb it literally says they could platoon in the article! Jk
jonscriff
Don’t know why they rushed devers if they were aiming for nunez
kylewait89
To get a quick look at him. Their was also no guarantee they got Nunez. I have problem with them bringing the kid up while working out this deal. Not my personal choice but it’s not really bad.
Nunez has been a good hitter for awhile. Isn’t looking to walk much but for what he brings, it will be a boon comparatively to what Boston has received at the spot. I’m guessing he is the full time guy or platooning with Holt.
angie
wow… im sad to see Nunez leave. I wish we could of got rid of the non producer’s in this game.
redsoxu571
1) They didn’t “rush” Devers. It wouldn’t have hurt to let him stay down, but he has the kind of developmental path that this isn’t too early for him (just the early part of his reasonable promotion range)
2) It isn’t clear that this means Devers is headed back down. Nunez can platoon with Devers at 3B and provide a VERY valuable utility role when Devers is starting, and is good enough that if Devers flops this year Boston won’t be left without an acceptable starting option.
It should be noted that Nunez isn’t clearly a better fielder at 3B than Devers is, and seeing as Nunez is not a particularly strong OBP or power bat there is plenty of room for both to have roles.
Bungalows
Lol devers was most definitely rushed he’s played less than 10 AAA games
Connorsoxfan
But when you play like he did in AA that doesn’t matter.
ctc46
So much for Devers getting a chance..
pustule bosey
If you are making a playoff push you don’t want to rely on a guy mid season who has never played in the bigs, better to have someone there that you can platoon while the new guy is getting his feet wet, especially since nunez has played 1st, 2nd, 3rd, short, LF, RF this season for the giants so he isn’t stuck as your 3rd baseman if he is needed elsewhere day to day
halos101
I wonder how they plan on rotating nunez and devers.
Austin0723
My guess is they only had Devers up just in case they didn’t land anyone
halos101
i feel like they probably knew they had a good chance at getting nunez though. Timing is wierd
Austin0723
Upgrade to Brock maybe then
THE JOKER
don’t understand the reasoning for this trad
they could have gotten Lowerie of the A’s….they could have gotten Frazier but waited to long..maybe trade for Joey Gallo of the Rangers or Profor.. am. I crazy….or …why didn’t the Sox at least ask for a handout…for those players…they are just as good as nunez
jgm1w11
Why do you…use. periods in such…weird places?
libbo
Because they were able to get Nunez for 2 minor leaguers none of the Pink Hats have ever heard of (although a 17 year old pitcher from the DR may have pro ISO). With all the bad press Dombrowski has been getting for “trading away”the farm, personally I think he’s a little gun shy. Plus, there’s no way Mr Henry is going to EAT $40+ million in contracts (Sandoval & Allan Craig at $11 million), and get sacked at the 50% penalty rate for going over the luxury threshold three years in a row. Unless we’re talking about Moustakis or Longoria (which we’re not) there really isn’t anyone available at 3B who will solve the Sox power outage this year…
gilgunderson
Read the post in a William Shatner voice, and it makes more sense.
kylewait89
My guess ismDevers is going back to AAA. No reason to have him up now that they have a guy who can play everyday.
halos101
yeah but if they called up devers because they thought they wouldn’t get a 3B why not wait till after the deadline
kylewait89
Have you seen the black hole at that position? There was never a reason to not call him up the way he was hitting and the lack of production they received there. Now they have a reason to send him down. Maybe not immediately but he really shouldn’t be up yet with this acquisition. Maybe they keep both, but then they likely have to dump Holt and I’m not sure they want that either.
Austin0723
Beeks and Dalbec are my guess, doubt I’m right but we’ll see
Austin0723
Beeks and Lakins I’m changing the guess
shawnybig
You might be half roght sounds like it’s two pitchers I guess beeks could be one and maybe Callahan or Cosart?
Austin0723
They both have control issues so I don’t think it’d be them but if it’s either of them I would assume Callahan
Bruin1012
Probably Boston is sending Hernandez hope they didn’t send Mata please don’t be Mata.
Austin0723
I think Dave is smart enough to know he looks like he could be worth more in a year or two
Bruin1012
Let’s hope
Austin0723
Fingers crossed brother lol
stretch123
Great pickup by the Sox. If Moncada pans out, Nunez can be a UT guy.
mrnatewalter
Wrong Sox.
Brixton
buddy, I got some news for you… i hope you’re sitting down…
stretch123
My bad lol Devers
Brian 2
Omg
Stedson
Lolololol
jbsimms86
Moncada of the White Sox? Lol
Padresrebuild
Heck of a player. Good get for Red Sox nation
Austin0723
End of Brock?
dodgerfan711
The return will surely not be another fringe top 100 prospect. Giants are making it look easy on how to make your farm system barren
GiantsX3
Speak after you’ve won three championships in six years.
dodgerfan711
Mike Leake, Casey Mcgee, Nunez, Moore and Will smith all trades that have backfired since 2014. Poor giant fans your 3 in 5 shield is depleting.
jleve618
It’s hard to really agree with you about the shield depleting when my team has 2 in about 134 years. I’d be happy to win another in the next 20 years.
dodgerfan711
Thats nice and all but its an awful argument. Bobby evans took over full time before 2015 and i said he was a bad GM because he depletes the farm system. Yet the response is “we won the world series 3 years ago”. Its completely irrelevant just like the actual team these days
mrnatewalter
The Dodgers lead the Giants by 30+ games, and their fans are still petulant. It’s beyond petty at this point.
casey
speaking of 3 in 5…
Brixton
If you win 3 World Series in 5 years, your farm is gonna look like garbage. Thats a valid excuse… you don’t get high draft picks, and deal prospects to compete every year… The Dodgers trade a ton of prospects every year and haven’t won anything.
casey
I mean 0 in 28
dodgerfan711
They actually had some good young players since 2014 and traded them all away. I listed them above ^. Its funny because no one they traded from 2010-14 became anything. its the players since then that are hurting them
mrnatewalter
What players since have turned into anything. I’ve got Adam Duvall and ???
jekporkins
You know what hurts? Not winning a World Series since the Reagan administration.
dodgerfan711
Duvall is huge. Giants have a mammoth hole in LF and Duvall was the one. Traded phil bickford for someone that needed TJS. Adalberto Mejia has a lower ERA than any giants starter not named bumgarner and a 1 WAR this season. Matt Moore has been awful. Louis Castillo would be a nice youn rotation arm but traded him for a journeyman who didnt last 3 months in SF.
jekporkins
@dodgersfan71 The last time the Dodgers won the World Series was 29 years ago. Just wanted to say that. I’m sure you were there wiping Lasorda’s chin at the parade but that’s a long time, buddy.
Brixton
Leake – no one expected Duvall to be that good, and his power wouldn’t play all that well in SF, so who cares
McGee – They didnt give anything up
Nunez – they gave up a BOTR arm thats easy to replace
Moore- Duffy is either hurt or bad, and Fox has lost his prospect shine a bit
Will Smith – cant predict injuries, and Bickford got suspended and lost his prospect sign anyways…
and you didn’t bother bringing up Cody Ross, Hunter Pence, George Kontos, Jake Peavy, Marco Scutaro or any of the other deals that helped them win multiple world series..
but yeah.. Farm system > winning
mrnatewalter
Bickford isn’t even a top 100 prospect, and most scouts believe he’s nothing more than a bullpen arm, not to mention the discipline issues he has. Besides, how on God’s green earth were the Giants going to know Smith needed Tommy John several months after trading for him?
dodgerfan711
Its a mindset like that is why the Giants stink now. “who cares abot duvall”. I am still mad about Schebler even though his power is not the same as dodger stadium. The only good player they gave up in any of those previous deals was Tommy Joseph. As for the giant fans stating the things that existed in 1988 lol. You know what wont exist in 2017? Giants playoff baseball
Gobbysteiner
Hey I’m fine with that we’re not in one of the longest WS droughts in sports
Brixton
Duvall doesn’t have good defense or OBP skills, his entire offensive profile is based off of power, which is highly elevated based off of playing in the band box that is Cinci. Put him in SF/Petco for 90 games a year and hes useless. Hes not even that good right now. Hes a glorified Tommy Joseph, who is also terrible.
Deke
Look I’m a giants fan but to be fair LA has been super competitive over this time period, yeah they didn’t win a WS but still have done well. They have a lot more depth. Yeah they also have a huge payroll but still… depth that we at SF can only dream of.
mrnatewalter
This pissing contest is unbelievably pathetic. The Dodgers are seriously great this year, and you’re more concerned about the Giants.
Yes, the Giants stink this year. That’s not because they gutted their farm. And the moves they made weren’t bad moves. Cheap, controllable years of Moore, who no one expected would be this bad. Mind you, the Dodgers were scouting Moore hard as well.
Smith was a controllable RP, and the return was less than that of other RPs last summer. Again, who could suspect he’d go down with TJ surgery after the season?
The Leake-Duvall trade was a standard baseball move. Duvall didn’t have a place in the Giants organization. How do the LF woes over two years later make the trade bad then? Hindsight is 20-20.
The Dodgers will eventually have to deal from that farm for serious upgrades, and will someday, if lucky enough, face an aging core with no farm depth because they spent it to win a WS or three.
dodgerfan711
Duvalls WAR this season is 1.8. Thats not bad. We both know the Giants did not come into 2017 with the intention of rebuilding. They thought they were a top team in the NL and it is proving just how bad bobby evans is. I dont even see how you could say louis castillo is nothing. He was traded for Dan Strailey and has good stuff. 6 years of control of him or 2 months of casey mcghee in 2015? Its the little things that have added up
Brixton
so hes on pace for a 2.5 WAR season while playing in a super hitter friendly park. Hes average at best..
They came into 2017 hoping to compete, but then Bumgarner hurt himself, Pence got hurt, Cueto underperformed and the bullpen imploded. It happens to everyone
mrnatewalter
One note about Duvall: He never played LF, or even the outfield, until he went to Cincinnati. How were the Giants to even predict he’d be their answer two years down the road in a position they never even tried him in?
Seriously?
JoeyPankake
As a Giants fan I’m going to have to agree with dodgerfan711. Bobby Evans has done absolutely nothing to impress me thus far in his GM tenure. Hoping this rebuild includes some cleaning house of the front office and coaching staff. No clue how Hensley Muellins still has a job. Even when they were winning titles they couldn’t really hit that well.
mrnatewalter
What moves that Evans has made wouldn’t you make? Forget about hindsight, because that’s not a factor they had when they were made.
Maybe the McGehee move, but even that was justified by the lack of 3B upgrades.
People harp on Bobby Evans, but, aside from the above, I’m not sure there’s a single move that he pulled that made no sense. And for the crap they about “look how good those players are”, Mejia and Duvall are the only successful ones, and even both of them are average MLBers at best.
So I’m curious: what Bobby Evans moves were bad when they were made?
davidcoonce74
The Giants aren’t exactly playing with a small-market budget; they’ve been in the top 7 in payroll in each of the last 8 seasons.
Deke
YES! THANK YOU! How Bam Bam is still employed makes little sense. During his tenure SF has never hit well, just got lucky and hot at the right time. It’s always been about pitching and that has sucked this year but hitting has ALWAYS been an issue. Bam Bam needs to go.
Deke
You make a good point but I feel that SF has traded for pitching a lot when Sabean has said that they struggle to sign decent hitters, so the hitters they do get are from the waiver wire. They really need to trade for hitters and buy FA pitchers. But it’s easy for me to say this, it’s harder for them to do it.
Adios pelota!
Don’t bother arguing with the dodger fan troll guys he can’t stop hating are team instead of being a fan on his team’s posts. I guess teams can’t have a bad year every now and then
Adios pelota!
Our* didn’t catch that lol
Pb
Melancon was probably an overpay and not addressing LF before the season. But, other than that, most of his moves were logical
Connorsoxfan
@natewalter doesn’t that just mean they suck at drafting and signing international talent as well then? It’s almost worse that they had a pretty weak system, traded a lot of guys away, and then none of them have panned out really.
jgm1w11
There has been plenty playoff baseball in SF this decade. It’s inevitable that a perennial contender will eventually need to rebuild with a depleted farm. Have you not noticed the cycles of championship teams? Maybe you are too young to know since LA hasn’t won since ’88. I know if my team were having an epic winning season I wouldn’t be so concerned with the rival. Sounds insecure. Maybe because it will be embarrassing if LA doesn’t finally get a ring this year after all the trash talk? Good luck.
davidcoonce74
Yes, Giants fans were so humble during those three championship seasons.
failedstate
War is adjusted for park factor…
gilgunderson
Since this is a thread about a Giants / Red Sox trade: you know who else had some pretty dreadful seasons between championship runs? The Red Sox. 2012: lost 90 games. 2013: won World Series. 2014: lost 90 games again.
The Giants have a lot of work to do, but to say their run of competitiveness is over is a knee-jerk reaction.
dodgerfan711
“Dont bother with the dodger fan he is a troll”. Says the fans of the team who provides no argument other than telling me stuff that existed in 1988. I am actually giving examples and stats and you just say 2014. Typical clueless giant fans
Adios pelota!
No man says the baseball/giants fan who sees you slamming on us every post. Have some class rock!
dodgerfan711
Adios pelota spends more time worried about me then providing facts to argue the point. Its ok keep pretending Adam Duvall is not good
mrnatewalter
He’s an average MLB outfielder who wasn’t an outfielder when the Giants traded him. What he’s doing in a tiny ballpark in 2017 had no bearing on their trading him in 2015.
Also, Duvall for Leake was standard operating procedure for any rental pitcher or Leake’s ilk. It’s what teams who attempt to stay competitive do.
People have answered your questions over and over and explained why you’re wrong. Instead, you choose to ignore them and provide the same trite responses. You are being a troll and need to stop.
Adios pelota!
No man I’m on here reading a post involving my team. Reading comments seeing other giants/ baseball fans opinions on the story. Here you are every post throwing hate on my team, here I am defending it (and other fans on here).
Like I said have some class!
Jean Matrac
Because everyone knew Smith would need TJ surgery. right? Bickford is only at high A, and not looking so good so since he’s suspended and hasn’t pitched since last season, So your point is weak.
Duvall isn’t as good a hitter as Belt. He strikes out more than Belt and averages -19 points in OPS+. So there’s legitimate doubt that Duvall would be the same hitter at AT&T,
The Giants have loss out on some trades, but tell me, which team hasn’t.
dodgerfan711
LMAO ok buddy i gave you his WAR and other stats and you still have nothing to say other than “he wasnt an outfieldee when the reds traded him”. When the deal happen everyone said it was a typical sneaky giants move. Not it was awful and they are being held accountable for it
dodgerfan711
outfielder* giants *
mrnatewalter
Adam “Mike Trout” Duvall, the MVP the Giants let slip through their fingers.
Because if they kept him, they’d be leading the Dodgers!!!
mrnatewalter
The point has been, you criticize the Giants while considering 2017. You pointed out situations no one could predict (Smith needing TJ surgery) and neglect the fact the Dodgers were actively scouting Matt Moore. That could have been the Dodgers bad move.
You’ve ignored us when we point out that each trade made tons of sense at the time. Instead, you simply want to troll.
How pathetic can you really be?
dodgerfan711
Combined 2017 WAR of players the giants traded 3.5. Combined WAR of players the giants acquired in those trades 0.2. Its ok keep coming at me with things that existed in 1988 and assumptions
mrnatewalter
No, it’s okay, keep coming at us with insecure and trollish hot takes.
The Giants traded Duvall for a rental. They knew that going into the trade. What Duvall is doing in 2017 is good, not great, but good. They made a move to try and win a WS. Literally every competitive team does that, and every team makes trades that blow up in their face, even if it’s 2-3 years down the road.
I’ve not once “come at you” with the reality of the Dodgers’ championship drought. Myself, as well as others, have reasonably tried to explain how you’re being ridiculous with your take. You refuse to accept anything that doesn’t pretty much say “the Giants are the worst ever”, which is why this conversation is over. You seemed like a troll, but I thought I’d give you a fair shake, I regret it.
Too bad for you, the Dodgers are killing it, and you’re more concerned about Bobby Evans.
Jean Matrac
WAR is kind of a dumb stat to use when talking about a guy going from a pitcher’s park to a hitter’s park. WAR does not take park effects into account. Duvall has an OPS+ of 100 at Great American, compared to an OPS+ of 65 at AT&T.
dodgerfan711
This debate has gone on long enough. Dont think commenting on 1 article about the giants means i am more concerned about them than my own team. I comment on every dodgers post. I comment rarley on a giants post. The whole point of this site is not limited to your own team. I could really care less about the giants, but dont play victims when giant fans ( in general not you specifically) talked so much garbage then now act like it never happened.
mrnatewalter
Again, I never mentioned only commenting on Dodger posts. I simply asked you to quit trolling. Your refusal to even accept any rational thought is evidence you wanted nothing to do but troll this page.
hiflew
Shawaryn and Brian Johnson are my guesses.
failedstate
That makes sense. They are like FV 40 guys I think and if take that for a solid bench piece that can play 800 positions.
Bruin1012
Highly doubt Shawaryn goes but you never know with DD.
failedstate
Johnson and Mata maybe. Brian and Bryan
Bruin1012
Highly doubt Mata.
Bruin1012
I’m thinking Hernandez and someone lesser.
Just Another Fan
I’m guessing Groome and then another pitcher in 15-30 range of the Red Sox farm. That may be a light package as Groome is no good at all, cares more about money than development, one of the more selfish players in the game. Hmmm, fitting that he could someday be in the same rotation as Price.
Brixton
Groome won’t be anywhere near this deal. Hes still a top prospect, and “hes not good” is just fallacy. Hes had 5 bad starts as an 18 year old…
Brixton
and yes.. it was very selfish of David Price to stand up for a teammate….. you can bash him for the way he handled it, but don’t fault him for why.
redsoxu571
Troll comment of the night. Here’s your cookie, well done!
Pedro Cerrano's Voodoo
Almost posted the same then saw ya beat me to it.
Bruin1012
And we have the idiot comment of the night by non other the jaf what a clown.
Bruin1012
All we need now is mikeyank and the night will be complete.
Connorsoxfan
Or that guy who will say “Ooh the cubs are dead they have 6 less games against SF who now sucks, than the Brewers do and 3 more against Boston who got better.” I’d originally projected .500, but it now wouldn’t surprise me if they didn’t win a game the rest of the year, if ever again!” What’s his name? Yankee addiction or something?
melly
+1.
Bruin1012
I think it’s the same guy with different user names.
bruinsfan94 2
As I have said before, you are the biggest loser on this site JustAnotherFan
redsoxu571
I highly doubt it’s Johnson, given his role as SP depth for the team. Given Nunez’s status as a lesser MLB piece who is set for FA, I think lower level arms, or a breakout lower pedigree guy such as Beeks, is much more likely.
Ryan Barnes
Wonder how the yankee fan base will react to him being there. I know it’s not his choice, but fans don’t really care. Lol.
trace
This is HUGE, absolutely HUGE.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
For 28 other teams that didn’t need to trade for him yes gigantic.
redsoxu571
The country can’t run itself, please get back to your circularly-challenged office and get back to work!
willclarksgauchos
Later hosen
HarveyD82
watching the game right now. it’s been awhile since a player was traded during the game….gotta love baseball…
HarveyD82
watching on pittsburgh att sports, and greg brown mentioned (around the 3rd inning I think) that red sox had a scout or two there, and as he said that Nunez was hbp on the elbow….
JoeyPankake
One the Giants broadcast they kept showing Larry Baer on the phone.
Bullet
4 homers, I thought the Sox needed a bit more power in that line up
CardsNation5
AT&T Park hurt his power numbers. Playing in Fenway should change that.
CardsNation5
Correction: Going to the AL East should change that.
MB923
Yeah but even his ISO Away isn’t that high (.135)
CardsNation5
That’s true
BadlyBent
4 homers actually is more power than Marrero/Lin :/
Lil Joe
That’s baseball, good luck Nunez
HarveyD82
was watching when Nunez was batting and greg brown mentioned that red sox had a few scouts at the game. then Nunez got hit on the elbow.. ..
Bruin1012
Omg who did they trade?
gronk
Do I really have to wait till I wake up? Who da heck are these 2 pitchers?!
ReverieDays
A couple of nobodies.
CardsNation5
Never know with Trader Dave.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
Minor transaction nothing more.
66TheNumberOfTheBest
I had mentioned Nunez as a guy the Pirates should target a few times…based on his numbers.
Actually watching him play the last few games, though…his effort and concentration make Polanco look focused and hungry by comparison.
Thanks, DD.
Austin0723
Maybe we’ll get lucky and it’ll be Henry Owens
mrnatewalter
A lot of context for this depends on who is “we”
Austin0723
Sox lmao we need to get him out of our system
Bruin1012
Let’s hope that is the case he needs to go back to the west coast.
Bruin1012
Well here you have it the Sox didn’t give up much.
Deke
Full disclosure. I don’t know the Sox farm and realize teams always need pitching but SF can buy pitching. Pitchers WANT to play at AT&T. But hitters don’t even when the giants offer to overpay.
Anyway my point is that SF needs to trade for hitters.
Again to be fair maybe this is the best they could get and maybe they flip those pitchers for a hitter later. But really, SF needs an OFer that can hit.
jgm1w11
Exactly! Was thinking the same thing.
chevyheston
Next up for Boston – PLEASE – get rid of Dave O’Brien and anyone not named Jerry Remy.
Don Orsillo and Remy made even the worst Sox games watchable. This is a first-place team (for now) and I’d rather watch the opposing team’s broadcast than listen to O’Brien. And Eckersley is worse. Don Orsillo, please come home.
CNichols
As an SD fan I really hope Orsillo stays right where he is. He’s great, I have no idea why Boston let him go.
Bruin1012
It was politics at NESN stupid as hell.
Boston blues
OB is the worst….miss Orsillo very much NESN really messed that up, so much to listing to your fan base. Eck is not that bad better fill in for the RemDog than anyone else they throw out there. Lyons is terrible. I can see Eck replacing Remy god forbid he is unable to make it back as long as Price is gone.
Connorsoxfan
Eck is ok, Lyons sucks, and honestly I think Remy stays 2 more years. Timlin always refers to the team as we. Man, we need to get an out here! That just bothers me, and I don’t really know why. I say it all the time and he actually used to play for them lol
qbass187
I agree with all of that…except for Eck. Remy is #1 in my book by Eck is a close 1a for color.
Austin0723
Assuming Ysla or Selsky are about to get cut off the 40 now
Markym89
Not another 3b from SF…. we know how the last one the SOX had from them worked out !
Connorsoxfan
Don’t even bring up fat boy
StarMan27
Nunez is a decent utility man, a nice backup to Rafael Devers. I like it.
hiflew
He won’t be backing up Devers. He will be the starting 3B and Devers will be in AAA for this season.
StarMan27
Then it’s not such a good trade after all.
InPolesWeTrust
He was listed by Sox as Utility Player. When they announced the trade. I think Devers could be staying with the ball club while Nunez is able to help all over the diamond.
24TheKid
Maybe the Sox could use him in the game going on right now?
sellers6
To pitch?
TobinHatesYou
The Giants desperately need power bats in the farm system, so they trade for two pitchers?
NicTaylor
Get rid of Fister, he’s a joke
xabial
I would’ve preferred Nunez to Todd “Grounded into Triple play” Frazier. Hey least it was a Run-scoring triple play. First Yankee Stadium at bat unsurprising considering Frazier’s performance so far since trade.
Slightly better version of Chris Carter
I went there
zclee06
Good move the Red Sox didn’t have to give up much
Pb
Sox fans, any thoughts on the prospects? 18th best prospect for the Sox is probably top ten for the Giants
Gwynning's Anal Lover
The Giants made out like bandits on this one.
GMB 883
Notice how quickly that trade came together right after the Sox called up Devers. I think the Giants realized the Sox were prepared to walk away and probably focus on a power hitting 1B or DH especially if Devers had a few good games. I watched Devers make 3 nice plays at 3rd last night. He looked very comfortable and I was impressed with his plate discipline for a 20 year old. He had 2 walks and stayed away from swinging at garbage. I can see why he is the #6 prospect in MLB. With Moreland having a broken toe and Hanley back to playing some 1B the Sox need to focus on a power bat that can either DH or play some 1B. A Bautista type of player. With Brandon Wirkman throwing 95 and looking good out of the bull pen as a fresh arm and they will get Joe Kelly back along with Hembree and Barnes, I don’t think they have to get another arm in the pen. They need more life in the lineup. Nunez hitting 307 and he is hitting 355 in July will help a lot but they still need another power bat.
qbass187
Very true!!!!
Connorsoxfan
I think they’ll get an arm in addition to the hitter. Neshek maybe? With the crazy motion he just provides something you can’t add to your bullpen any other way, and he shouldn’t cost a huge prospect haul.
Howard-NY13
He’s the number 4 prospect, but I agree with you
MiggyCabby24
Bet Boston wishes they had Travis Shaw back. Traded him for a reliever that’s out for the season, while Shaw is having a career year with the Brewers.
Little Whirl
That was an odd trade to begin with, imo, as Shaw was a 2+ win player at 25/26 already. Not indefensible by any means, (Tyler Thornburg had a really good 2016 & relievers are all the rage), but odd & especially considering Boston’s 3b options going into 2017. In fairness. I doubt even Milwaukee saw just this kind of upside in Shaw.
Howard-NY13
LOL. Yea big time. And I thought when they did it they lost the trade anyways, even if they were getting a guy that had a good 2016 with a 2.5 era. Because Shaw had a good year, and with his potential he was bound to have even a better season and he is in 2017.
balisox
Please let this be the end to Doug fister..0-5 somehow always finds a way to loose.
Howard-NY13
LOL, yeah I thought it was a great pickup at first but now I think they should release him.
A'sfaninUK
Someone’s going to get Jed Lowrie for absolutely nothing now, and he will promptly OPS 1.000 and lead them to a title.
Rickey O'Sunnyvale
Clear winner in this deal: Nunez.
mikeyank55
Nunez, ‘I’m going to play the game because it is my free agent walk year. However do I care about this Red Sox team? No. I’m a Yankee at heart and I just left my heart in San Francisco. It’s a paycheck and I will suck it up to play in their dumpy ballpark, however I’m not laying myself out. Plus the manager is a jerk”
yankeefan4564
also choke it up in the playoff aganist the yanks
steelax42
Baseball should be ashamed of itself, allowing the Red Sox to get Nunez and Yankees to maybe get Sonny Gray. Enough is enough. God forbid Boston hands out one bad contract and gets below-average production at ONE position, so they can absorb themselves of their sins by just going out and buying another player. The Yankees get David Robertson to be a SEVENTH-INNING reliever when other teams need him as a closer. I really wish, given that it’s bad enough that the Sox, Yankees, Dodgers, etc., can spend loads of money to beef up their rosters as it is, that there wasn’t any ability to make in-season trades. It really highlights the economic disadvantages of the sport. It’s a shame, because there was hope that maybe the Red Sox’s sagging offense would hurt them down the road, but now they go out and get an All-Star caliber player just because they whiffed on Sandoval. And they’re fine as is with Rafael Devers. Again, another case of being able to afford a great player as a backup when other teams can’t afford him but would use him as a starter.
liamsfg
Anderson and Santos.
Anybody know much about these kids?