With the Red Sox looking far and wide for third base help, a couple of creative solutions are proposed by ESPN’s Scott Lauber and FOX Sports’ Ken Rosenthal (writing on his Facebook page). Lauber suggests that Boston could explore a deal for the Athletics’ Yonder Alonso (14 games as a third baseman over his eight-year MLB career) while Rosenthal’s suggestion is perhaps even more outside-the-box: the Tigers’ Ian Kinsler, who has played all of two innings at third in his 12 years in the Show. Both suggestions, it should be noted, are based on only speculation from the two writers. Rosenthal reports that the Red Sox and Tigers haven’t mentioned Kinsler in trade talks between the two clubs, while WEEI.com’s Rob Bradford (Twitter link) reports that Boston isn’t considering Alonso to fill its third base gap. Still, as per Rosenthal, Dombrowski is apparently considering several infielders who could switch positions and play third, so the Sox might yet end up with a unique choice before the deadline.
Some more from around the AL East…
- The Blue Jays have received “some feelers” about Jose Bautista, ESPN.com’s Jerry Crasnick reports (Twitter links). Much of Toronto’s trade discussions to this point have focused around their pending free agents (i.e. Marco Estrada, Francisco Liriano, Joe Smith) though Bautista probably falls into this category as well, since the Jays seem unlikely to exercise their half of a $17MM mutual option for 2018. Bautista’s production has fallen off this season, as the veteran slugger is hitting just .227/.340/.402 with 16 homers over 415 PA. A trade is further complicated by Bautista’s trade veto rights as a 10-and-5 player, though one would think he would be interested in joining a contender.
- The Yankees’ seven-player trade with the White Sox may be New York’s only really big move before the deadline, Joel Sherman of the New York Post writes. The Yankees are still looking for a left-handed hitting first baseman and lefty reliever, though “they do not appear to have urgency in those areas,” and certainly not to the degree it would take to move a significant prospect to address either need. After missing out on Jose Quintana, the Yankees also don’t look like they’re willing to give up a notable prospect package to acquire a starter, since they were particularly enamored with Quintana’s durability and team-friendly contract. While New York has been linked to Sonny Gray, Sherman reports that Gray’s injury history is a concern for the Yankees. Similar concerns also scuttled the Yankees’ interest in Sean Doolittle before the Athletics dealt Doolittle to the Nationals.
- Also from Sherman, he spoke to five rival personnel men who felt the Yankees made a very good move in swinging the Todd Frazier/David Robertson/Tommy Kahnle deal with the White Sox. Blake Rutherford, the outfield prospect who headlined the minor league package sent to Chicago, received less-than-stellar reviews from the five executives, who questioned Rutherford’s power potential and his ability to stay as a center fielder. One NL executive felt the Yankees may have sold high on Rutherford “when the buzz was still good” about his potential. Incidentally, Sherman reports that Rutherford was also part of the Yankees’ offer to the White Sox for Quintana.
mvpetro
Cashman is the best
chitown311
$14mm reliever in Robertson, a 2.5 month rental in A .210 hitting Frazier, and a solid reliever that the Sox sold high on. Rick Hahn is the winner here
SuperSinker
Can’t they both have done well?
A'sfaninUK
The White Sox got hosed on that deal, they needed one more prospect from the top 15 to even it up.
cubsfan2489
Thank god you’re not a GM JAF. You clearly have zero knowledge of baseball.
thegreatcerealfamine
Let us know in 2022.
a1544
Lol I completely disagree. Cashman didn’t give anything up that he felt was part of the future
Sox stuck to their plan but I think they could’ve gotten better for a package including a break out reliever that is controlled through 2020
kevincrrr
I think it was a great deal for both teams. Sox got a nice prospect in Rutherford and the Yankees got three solid players who can help them compete this year. The Yankees gave up an OF prospect who didn’t really have a place in our future plans with Judge, Frazier and Ellsbury in the Of for the foreseeable future.
bartoloshomie
He d be better than Ellsbury tho
thegreatcerealfamine
His ETA is 2020-21
JKB 2
Ellsbury is your future?
davbee
You’re using batting average to evaluate a hitter. How cute. Are you posting from 1975?
jbaker3170
And exactly how else would you evaluate Frazier?? By his insanely high OBP%?? His stellar, Gold Glove caliber defense?? His numerous All-Star game nods?? His multiple MVP awards??
JKB 2
Oh Davebee yes batting average counts. When you are hitting .210 that is called you suck.
You think you are the new age slueth? Oh how cute you are little boy. Oh do tell us how .210 is good
chesteraarthur
You could just as easily make the case that the Yankees sold high on Rutherford. Like this article actually does…
JoePauer
Thank you! I feel like Hahn could have done better selling each guy individually.
JKB 2
You would think Robertson alone would net Rutherford
nrd1138
What exactly do you think Hahn has been trying to do since at least the AS break? Twiddling his thumbs? Hahn got the best deal he was going to get out of these players.
JaysFan19
If the Yankees win the World Series this year nobody cares lol
ahtigers
Or next
HalElliott
Are you kidding. The yanks gave up on an OF who has potential, but no where to play in the next ten years, and some other scrub minor league players for two very reliable bullpen arms and a guy who is a year removed from 40 homes and 100+ RBI’S. I do that any day of the week.
JKB 2
And Verlander is one year removed from “almost” winning the cy young. So what?
rmullig2
That’s a delusional analysis. Robertson alone (not making 14mm) was worth the package the Yankees gave up. Hahn put his best chips into one deal and walked away with a corner outfielder who lacks power, two lottery tickets, and a salary dump. Hahn has made some terrific deals but this isn’t one of them.
BSPORT
Amazing part of deal was the Clippard dump.
nrd1138
Hahn got the best deal he was going to get, plain and simple or these guys would likely be somewhere else.
se7enwils
Just to be clear, Robertson is under contract through 2018.
KnicksFanCavsFan
The move helps both teams but let’s not act as if a prospect, no matter how good, is a sure thing. Meanwhile, it’s easier to project what the Yanks will get for the 3 guys they acquired.
SaberSmuckers
Clueless.
bartoloshomie
He really is. I do not care for the Yanks, but I can def appreciate what a good job Cashman has done. Yankees could have had a lot more dead money, but sharp scouting and smart trades have made them relevant again.
the.sophisticant
wait for it….keep waiting while your reading other peoples comments…and……”not”….cashman is not the best! i think he’s horrible…i say bring back george costanza
SaberSmuckers
Go away troll.
KillahAC
Wrong.
Hiro
Long shot, and probably ineffective idea:
Boston should go for Bautista and have Bautista play 3B?
I know Bautista used to play 3B, but I don’t remember how effective/ineffective he was.
If the Red Sox like what they see, exercise the mutual agreement and have him DH or play 1B next year.
Thor L.
It’s not a bad idea, the question comes down to what prospects are they willing to part with
ThePriceWasRight
no it’s a bad idea. Bautista has an arm but doesn’t move well enough to play 3b. he barely can move in the OF. If the red Sox want to make a statement though make the call to the blue jays for JD. it will take devers and probably 2 pitchers (cosart and Raudes perhaps) but that would solidify 3b for 2 years and they have the ability to sign him as a free agent. for the blue jays it shores up a future infield of bichette, devers and guerrero in potentially as early as 2019.
ThePriceWasRight
I would also add an RP to this deal for the Sox maybe Joe smith.
badco44
Geez, last I checked they are looking for a lefty in the lineup… not a righty guys… still holding out for Moose
Wolf Hoffmann
How about a life sized cardboard cutout of Wade Boggs Sox 3B? He would be a better fielder than Alonso.
MVP20
Lmao
A'sfaninUK
Alonso is 1000x better a 3B than Bautista is right now (see above post)
chuckymorris
I laughed for 2 solid minutes thinking about that
mannyl101
Haha
tim815
Who makes Boston’s next start in Fister’s stead?
He’s gotta be about done.
mookiessnarl
Eduardo Rodriguez just came of the DL. So Fister is done either way. Sale, Price, Porcello, Pomeranz, Rodriguez. No spot for Fister.
jmi1950
Plus Johnson is now healthy. I can’t understand why Fister started Thur.
badco44
Setting the rotation up for down the line
mikeyank55
Rodriguez is good for about 6 innings before he falls off the mound and re-injures his knee again. He should go to the Pablo fat camp and get in shape.
CJ81
I can’t remember if he did this much before, but could hanley play 3rd? He was a ss for a while. Seems pretty lousy at d recently, though.
theroyal19
He did play 3rd but wasn’t as happy. He always considered himself a SS
mikeyank55
He has a fantastic attitude and is a devoted team player as long as he DOESNT have to WEAR A GLOVE.
mikeyank55
BTW-he is SLOW and has a bad shoulder (lol).
brian1
Sell the farm go for Manny Machado!
Boomer14
So, let me get this straight… A prospect is in the Yankees farm system and he’s – can’t miss prospect… the second he leaves their farm system the prospect is all of a sudden overvalued??? I the Rutherford will be good just funny how writers flip the script.
thegreatcerealfamine
You read the many “Rutherford is not available” posts by Billysballz. No Yankee fan is losing any sleep with his departure.
SaberSmuckers
It’s not the writers, just do some research. He fell off this year.
Ken M.
And just like that…… Rutherford is no longer a Future Hall of Famer. Amazing how a prospect’s stock will rise or fall just by leaving or going to the Yankees.
A'sfaninUK
Exactly. The NY media-backed Yankee prospect hype train has been running like a jet engine for over 25 years now. How can’t Yankee fans see the forest from the trees?
Ken M.
No clue. Check out Gleyber Torres meteoric rise after being traded from the Cubs. He had 2 hot weeks in the Arizona Fall League and suddenly he is Yoan Moncada.
thegreatcerealfamine
And what has Yoan Moncada achieved?
chesteraarthur
the #1 ranking on various prospect lists.
thegreatcerealfamine
And?
A'sfaninUK
Moncada graduated to MLB, Torres hasn’t (yet).
But Torres was always a highly-thought of prospect. Rutherford was always viewed as a non-elite, flawed guy until the last month or two.
I think Yankees, Mets and Red Sox get way more prospects on those top 100 lists than other teams, when their guys who make those lists certainly are not deserving of it over ones from say, the Royals or Rockies. Ergo, its always wise to take their hyping of their prospects with a grain of salt.
Bruin1012
What this analysis of Rutherford is so far off its not even funny if anything he last month or two was when his prospect stays fell. He was looked at as an elite prospect. When you are ranked as the 36th best prospect coming into the year you are considered an excellent prospect.
Boomer14
Ha perfect example
soxtober05
@thegreatcerealfamine..
Exactly as expected. IS THERE a metric that conclusivly anoints a prospect “Superstar status” after less than 50 mlb plate appearances?
jerseyjohn
No. Torres was very highly rated by MLB Pipeline prior to the trade so not quite. Yankees prospects receive hype but it’s a product of having more fans and media coverage, it’s not some kind of conspiracy.
the.sophisticant
Rutherford B. Hayes? Heard he’s gonna be a free agent, maybe Cashman can throw some sick money at him…little bit over his prime at 205yo but can probably still mash it like southern slow-cooked taters
mookiessnarl
Gyorko, Lowrie or trade for Cozart and have him try third. All good hitters. If none of them can be had at a reasonable rate, give Devers and Chavis a shot in August/September. The Red Sox window isn’t one year, so don’t mortgage the future to pick up a rental now.
anthonyd46
The AL is fairly bunched up this year. The 2nd WC (Yankees) and last place (White Sox) are only 9 games apart in the loss column. So therefore everyone still technically has a chance, but I think the yankees need to upgrade the rotation as Tanaka is inconsistent, you never know what you will get from CC or Cessa and Montogomery has been solid, but he’s a #4 starter at best. Severino has been really solid lately, but with Tanaka’s inconsistent starts it would be good if they had someone like Gray or whoever to make the rotation stronger. I’m not sure i trust someone with an over 5 era to be a #1 or #2 starter in a playoff series.
NCYankee
Keep the farm intact as a life long Yankee fan I follow the farm daily. Scrap Cessa and throw Adams in the fire. He will out pitch him now. Mateo has busted out now that he has escaped high A! Any rental starter we might get is not worth what Cash has built on the farm
TennVol
As much as i hate to say it, Bautista is a perfect fit for Boston. He is a money player who performs his best in the spotlight and big cities. He can competently play 1b, 3b, LF, and RF. He might actually be at his best at 3b right now due to his lack of top speed in the OF. He has an absolute cannon of an arm though.
jimmertee
I agree with your Bautista analysis. He loves to play in Boston. Most homers of any active visiting player in Fenway. Someone is going to get him for the right price if he is willing to waive his no trade clause. He wouldn’t do it, but he can pitch too, 90+ Mph heater – pitched in school.
Mike_Trout
In what world can he play any of those positions competently? even hidden in the corner OF, his UZR/150 puts him below average.
TennVol
Those outfield metrics are flawed in this way: if you have a wide ranging CF like Keirmier and Pillar, they range far into the LF and RF areas to make catches. The LF and RF could have most likely made many of those catches and that does 2 things, it reduces the fielding metrics for the LF and RF on those teams and increases the metrics for the CF. I have watched Blue Jay games for 6 years, up to 100 a year, and their have been a lot of balls that Bautista could have snagged but didnt because he was called off by the CF. This is a huge flaw in all the OF fielding metrics out there.
A'sfaninUK
“RUTHERFORD IS UNTOUCHABLE!!!”
Can everyone please just stop saying that? Prospects are literally never untouchable, and most MLB players aren’t either. Every player his their price on the trade market.
Instead of proclaiming that you know the inner workings of the FO of team you stan for, just say “I really like that prospect for these reasons (reasons), I hope my fave team doesn’t trade him.”?
a1544
Who said that lol
A'sfaninUK
My god, so many posters on this site and also on twitter. SMH
thegreatcerealfamine
Are you new here?
A'sfaninUK
hahaha
sonnyboyterry
Ben Gamel is surprisingly really good an ideal 2 slot hitter- something the Yankees sorely lack
bobbleheadguru
Iglesias makes more sense to pick up from Tigers. Put in at SS.
Then move Xander over to 3rd to take advantage of Iggy’s defense.
Bruin1012
They aren’t moving Xander off of short tried already didn’t work real well can’t see them trying it again.
fatelfunnel
Do the white sox expect Rutherford to stay in center? I would think they would project Jimenez in left, Robert in center, and Ruthford in right. With Basabe being the fourth outfielder. And Garcia is still only 26.
chesteraarthur
I assume they will cross that bridge when those players get close to being major league ready.
Little Whirl
Those three are all at least a couple years away in all likelihood, but Eloy Jimenez >> Blake Rutherford as far as arm strength goes in the eyes of most evaluators. I’d think the latter is a more probable LF, if all goes well.
A'sfaninUK
They don’t expect any of those guys to do anything. They are waiting for them to prove that they are going to do something.
Do you seriously think MLB front offices are thinking that far ahead? They do not do that. Only weirdo prospect hounds think like that. Nothing happens until it happens. Sure, they would very much like for them to become MLB regulars of some kind, and they acquired them because the odds say they will, but to “pencil them in” is just 100% not how MLB works or thinks. Please understand this, its a common thread/fatal flaw of fans who overvalue prospects.
66TheNumberOfTheBest
So, he’s the outfield version of Giolito?
Boomer14
Hahaha
yeahhhjeets
Robertson never wanted to leave NY in the first place! interesting thought.. they could flip him at this years deadline or next depending on the package.
pflabby
It was hard to see Rutherford go and I know that a day will come that the Yankees regret the deal. I get the premise of the deal but doesn’t make it easier to accept. My only hope is that the Yankees do a better job deciding what players to add to the 40 man so we don’t have to watch great prospects being traded to acquire or try to re acquire players they let go and go on to succeed elsewhere (Kahnle and Quintana)
HalElliott
Where would he play in NY in the next five years, over Judge, over Frazier (Clint). No place for him. He’s not a CF. two very good bullpen arms and a 100 RBI guy. No brainer.
rmullig2
Rutherford is going to be a Ben Game type player. Good complimentary piece but not anything you can build a team around. With Judge, Frazier, Hicks, and Fowler around he would never have cracked the starting lineup.
Good move by Cashman to trade him at the top of his value.
Bruin1012
You don’t know what Rutherford is going to be no one does all I know was when he was drafted it was a steal for the Yankees and his upside was very high. I don’t think the shine is off the guy just because he was traded and his former team bad mouthed him a bit.
rmullig2
He was never considered a power hitter and most people in the industry don’t think he can stick in center. That means his ceiling would be Ben Gamel. I don’t see anybody comparing him to Tony Gwynn.
Bruin1012
Scouting reports differ but at least some see him as a middle of the order bat he may end up a corner outfielder as he grows into his body. There is projectable power there. What he has done this year is underwhelming but most scouts still like his potential. This is what the White Sox need high upside guys at this point.
Bruin1012
His ceiling is not Ben Gamel he projects much more power.
KD17
I agree. Rutherford could end up the best outfielder of the bunch. Ask teams like Arizona, Colorado and oh yeah the YANKEES about how often OFs get hurt. Having a fourth stud OF isn’t a terrible thing until you have no injuries and no place to play them for multiple years, especially when the DH exists. What did they get for him? A set=up man for a team who won’t make the playoffs, a 3B who hits .220 with power and another set-up man. All that for a top prospect. Yankee fans force management to do dumb things. You have 50 years of history in your front office proving the point. If the Yankees tripped coming out of the gate this year and had their ‘struggle’ early rather than mid-season expectations would have stayed under control and the incomplete rebuilding could have continued. Instead, experienced players were grabbed for a key prospect and if the Yankees don’t make the playoffs, it was a total waste. They should be trading Chapman again for more prospects at positions of weakness because they are at least 2 years from having a playoff contending team.
thegreatcerealfamine
Bruin..where’s Billy? This is right up his alley.
rocky7
Last time I checked Ben Games was having a pretty good year for the MARINERS!
rocky7
Not doubting that Rutherford might probably work out as a very good major league ballplayer, but exactly what pipeline to the “scouts and their scouting reports that projects him as a corner outfielder with projectable power as he “grows into his body”. do you have Bosox guy that give you this opinion. Sound like a medical opinion to me.
I agree with the poster above that I think both the sox and the yankees got what they wanted and hope both win” in this deal.
Me thinks you should stick to Bosox rumors and stop being a yankee expert.
Bruin1012
Nope read it on Fangraphs read it on MlB top 30 prospects they all said potential middle of the order bat. You are right Rocky I don know the Yankees farm system like the Bosox but I do know what I read about him he seems like a high ceiling low floor guy could be really good but could also bust completely.
Bruin1012
I just don’t like it when fans say well he isn’t that good anyway and disparage a player after the trade. I didn’t like when Red Sox fans were doing the same thing about Moncada after the Sale trade.
Priggs89
Yah, I’m not buying this massive drop in value at all. He was regarded as one of the best high school bats in the country coming into last year’s draft, and he was looked at as the steal of the draft by many evaluators. Then he came in as a 19 year old and hit .351/.415/.570 in 33 rookie ball games. He had a slow start to the year, but his numbers still aren’t THAT bad. He’s still hitting and getting on base at a good clip while not striking out, so the bat and plate discipline are still there; it’s just his power that has been down so far. Seems awfully quick to sour on somebody that young with such limited experience in professional ball. Not to mention that the questions about him sticking in CF have been there from the start, so that’s not really an excuse to drop him now.
And no, I’m not saying this because I’m a Sox fan. I’ve been high on Rutherford for a long time and was hoping he’d be part of a Quintana deal. He may flame out, he may not. We’ll see. But I couldn’t be happier to have him in the organization.
A'sfaninUK
lmao how are you saying definitively how a prospect is going to perform at the MLB level. Every evaluator said Judge wouldn’t hit higher than .250 with 30 bombs. No one can predict anything about how minor leaguers are going to perform in MLB. No one.
cubsfan2489
JAF are you ever going to use your westcoastryan account again? Was just wondering. Troll.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Idiot
trace
If Boston wanted to upgrade 3B, shouldn’t they have done something by now?
pflabby
They should have just kept Travis Shaw.
xpensivewinos
The third base options are not upgrades. Moustakas would have been, but the Royals aren’t going to trade their guys now.
I would rather see the Red Sox get a guy like Cozart and move Bogaerts over to third………..not that he’s any great shakes this year, but you know they’re going to continue to roll him out there every day and he obviously has fairly recent experience playing 3B.
Bruin1012
They aren’t moving Xander tried it before and did not work out. I can see them going for Nunez he will be cheap and he has the utility the Sox like. Devers is very close probably be up in August sometime.
KD17
Donaldson is the answer. Need to find out what his price is. An MVP under-performing so his price is as depressed as it will ever be. If TOR won’t trade him, best option is Nunez. Speed and Batting Average, fits the team well. If TB hadn’t gone on a hot streak Longoria would have been an interesting possibility. Last option is bring up Devers and prove he isn’t ready and completely deplete his trade value…that’s for all the people who think a guy doing well at AA is going to do well in the show.
A'sfaninUK
Devers has to be in the package for Donaldson. No reason otherwise from TOR’s perspective.
rmullig2
The Red Sox would have the absolute worst farm system in baseball if they made this deal. It would cost them their top 4 prospects.
KD17
Absolutely. Devers and Groome probably. And who cares if the farm system moves from having lots of prospects near the majors to lots of developmental prospects! The Red Sox have a young SS,LF, CF, RF. They would have Donaldson and Pedroia as stud every day players so 6 of the 8 positions would be set for a long time. 1B and C would be two positions that might need help over time but 2 headed catching team is as good as most catchers. So, who cares if the minors is no longer top ranked. The farm system never gets wins for you, they get potential wins down the road. Boston wants wins now. DD is on the right track, he just needs to do his thing and get Donaldson. Then the Red Sox are the Golden State of baseball.
CJ81
If Cardinals don’t do well the next 2 weeks Matt Carpenter may become available. Hes not good defensively at third but better than some other names Ive seen mentioned. Unlike Donaldson he wouldnt cost devers and groome. Maybe just devers. Or maybe groome plus 1-2 others since sox farm drops off badly after those 2. Im not a sox fan but hes an on base machine and that lineup would be sick.
I actually think cards and yankees are better trade partners. Yankees have enough capitol to get lynn and carpenter from cards and those are their 2 areas of need.
Bruin1012
I don’t see the Red Sox trading either Devers or Groome at this point and don’t think Carpenter would be a big enough to upgrade to trade either of them. I have serious reservations on his defensive ability at third. I think the Red Sox will look to go cheap with Nunez if that doesn’t happen then I think they will bring up Devers in August. The only way Devers and Groome are moved in a true blockbuster maybe Donaldson or Manny Machado. Not sure Manny Machado wants to play in Boston though they have had issues.
thegreatcerealfamine
You seriously didn’t say trade Chapman..omg
Bruin1012
That would cost Devers and Groome Indo like Donaldson not sure the Blue Jays would trade him though. It would vault the Red Sox right up there with Astros in my opinion if they did that. Interesting thought a win now move seems right up DD’s alley.
jmi1950
If Red Sox can not get Nunez they should go for Zack Cozart. Boegarts played 3b in the 2017 WBC and 2013 WS. The key is that they not give up a top prospect or saddle themselves with a contract beyond this year.
Bruin1012
Nunez won’t cost much I just don’t see them moving Bogey off short when it went so badly last time.
jmi1950
Boegey is more mature now and he gladly played 3b in the WBC
jmi1950
Also, with Cosart at SS, the “D” would be exceptional — OF Betts, JBJ, Beni, C Vaz or Leon both over 40% throwing out SB’s, , 1B Moreland, 2b Pedey, 3B Bogey (the only one not gold glove or close to it.)
Bruin1012
I think the D would be very good and this makes sense Bogey didn’t play particularly well in WBC I just don’t see the Red Sox moving him off from short but that would be the solution if they wanted Bogey to play third. I think Devers is real close and Red Sox aren’t afraid to move guys like that up. Should be interesting and I don’t disagree with you and think if Bogey would accept third this would be the best they can do.
the.sophisticant
i love the yankees…when they’re good they make all us small market teams a ton of money
slider32
Cashman never let’s anyone know what direction he is going in, so I see him signing Verlander and Darvish. The Tigers have said they will pay Verlander’s contract the rest of the year and I see them paying down his contract for the next 2 seasons to land a good prospect like Adams. In Darvish I think the Yanks will sign him long term in the winter so why not just get him now to give the team a good chance in the playoffs. Darvish is traded to the Yanks for Sheffield and Florial. This gives the Yanks a rotation of Severino, Darvish, Verlander, Tanaka, and CC and the best relief pitching in the game. The Yanks already have too young pitchers in the rotation, they need some good veterans. Next year Montgomery replaces CC.
Connorsoxfan
I wonder if Hanley would move to 3rd and Boston could get Alonso or Bautista to play DH, or in Alonso’s situation rotate with Moreland on occasion.
the.sophisticant
Hanley still plays?
the.sophisticant
hey..ho….i’m from yonkas ova heeh…yous guys wanna date my sista or what?
Macho King OG
Brian Cashman has been the Best GM in baseball over the past year, and I never thought I’d say that. Rutherford is in A ball, and won’t be up for years, and projects as a corner OF with little power. Yanks sold high. Clarkin projects as a mid-bottom starter, and several pitchers in the Yankees system are ahead of him on the depth chart. Getting rid of Clippard and snagging two plus BP arms is awesome, and having Frazier helps the club this year, and he could come back next year in place of Holiday who has tanked hard.
Bruin1012
Where do you gets get the little power because his projections are anywhere from 50 to 60 on power are you going by the the home runs he has hit in A because nowhere can I find that he isn’t projected to hit for power you guys are classic just because Cashman traded him now he isn’t a good prospect. Stop saying he doesn’t project for power because BA, MlB top prospects, fangraphs etc. all day he projects above average power.
Bungalows
Your forgetting the 24 mill yanks are eating
Rob Heverling
I personally don’t think the Red Sox need a 3rd basemen. What they need is a clutch hitter in the number 4 spot. Holt can play 3rd just fine or they can bring up Devers . We need a power hitter and Devers could fill 3rd and supply the power. He’s at least worth a shot before we start giving up young talent.
CJ81
This makes the most sense to me. If sox start panicking about 3rd call devers up to see if you already have the solution in house.
nrd1138
No one knows who the winner is. It would be hilarious though if Clarkin and Polo turn out to be the All star type major leaguers in the trade. Look, this is not Babe Ruth for cash here, this was a bunch of rentals for prospects. People are acting like Hahn was trading Sale for this bunch. I’m sure Hahn did his homework and the Yankees offered the best package for what Hahn had. The Sox moved a guy in Frazier that no one apparently wanted to give up anything for, a closer who is good but his contract is expensive (and now is going to be a 7th inning guy for the Yankees), and a guy they sold high on in Kahnle. No one has the ‘good deal’ over the other here, Not when the Yankees are picking up Frazier and Robertsons’ salaries. The Yankees get one guy sticking around due to contract next season, the other two guys-if I am not mistaken are rentals -for this season. 2 Rentals, and a guy that is basically now going to be a 7th inning guy, and all of their salary for 3 prospects and 1 throw away to offset the salaries? OK. Not sure what else Hahn was going to get. People seem to act like he was desperate and took the first offer to him for all of these guys. He did not do that.
Could Rutherford be a bust? Sure, could all of the players? Sure. Could Frazier, Kahnle or Robertson get injured in the next few weeks? Sure. All I know if there have been folks in the boards crying about how great Rutherford was, and how he was not going to be traded for this or that, Now all of the sudden they throw him under a bus.. Gotta love Yankees ‘fans’ and their ‘org’ for that matter. .