With Rick Porcello and Chris Sale suddenly looking like the only healthy and reliable members of the Red Sox starting five, Boston’s rotation is “a house of cards,” in the words of CSNNE.com’s Evan Drellich (video link). Lou Merloni, Jared Carrabis, and Drellich discuss Boston’s lack of pitching depth in the wake of David Price’s season-opening DL stint and Drew Pomeranz having to leave an outing today due to left triceps tightness. The controversial circumstances of the Red Sox/Padres deal that brought Pomeranz to Boston last season are also revisited, with Carrabis noting that “the trade looks like it keeps getting worse every single day” from the Sox perspective given Pomeranz’s ongoing injury problems.
Here’s more from around the AL East…
- Brian McCann has nothing but fond memories of his time with the Yankees, though he told Randy Miller of NJ Advance Media that being traded to the Astros represents “a best-case scenario for both sides.” McCann was willing to waive his no-trade protection in order to join “a team filled with talent…young talent that’s going to be together for a while” that would allow him to regularly catch, while the Yankees were clearly going with Gary Sanchez as the catcher of both the future and the present. “You’ve got to see what you have, and what they have is a very talented catcher that is going to be there for a long time,” McCann said, noting that he himself displaced a veteran catcher (Johnny Estrada) when he first broke into the bigs as a rookie with the Braves in 2005.
- Players face a big decision when presented with the opportunity to sign an early-career extension, as Evan Longoria and Jake Odorizzi of the Rays tell Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times. Longoria’s first extension with the Rays (a six-year, $17.5MM deal signed just a week into his big league career) drew some criticism at the time, though Longoria saw it as a chance to “have this security for myself and my family and just play and relax.”
- Odorizzi, meanwhile, passed on a discussed extension with the Rays two offseasons ago. Topkin reports that the proposed extension would have been a six-year deal worth close to $30MM in guaranteed money, with over $20MM more available via two additional club option years. Such a deal would’ve covered at least two of Odorizzi’s free agent seasons and potentially kept him under team control through his age-33 season. Odorizzi doesn’t regret turning down the extension, saying “sometimes it boils down to, and I hate to say it, but the dollar amount. We all know the money in this game and the value of players and what your value is. And sometimes it just doesn’t match up. That’s just the circumstances.”
- The Blue Jays hope to gain a competitive advantage with their high performance department, as Sportsnet.ca’s Arden Zwelling takes a look inside the all-encompassing plan dedicated to keeping players physically and mentally prepared year-round. Club president Mark Shapiro hired sports psychologist Angus Mugford last year to create the high performance department, which has now grown into a 43-person staff consisting of fitness trainers, dieticians, mental coaches, and more. The department’s focus on each player’s individual status helped the Jays decide to keep Aaron Sanchez in the rotation last season, as since Sanchez had so diligently been keeping himself in good condition, there was less fear that he would wear down after throwing so many innings.
Chico Outlaws Fan 44
Really wish the Sox weren’t trying to reset on Cap and couldnt just sign EE and keep Buchholz. Could have eased the significance of all these injury prone starters. Would take Buchholz ~.500 Win%!as back end starter.
Brixton
Buchholz would be like 9th on their depth chart, and EE and Hanley on the same team longterm is a bad idea
Chico Outlaws Fan 44
9th? Lol you prefer Henry Owens to Clay? I think you could argue anywhere from 4-6th and when you add two injuries to a rotation it could’ve been useful imo. Hopefully Kendricks can contribute at a similar level if needed
lovethatdirtyh20
I couldn’t be happier that Buch is long gone and the Phils took the whole contract. Addition by subtraction.
outinleftfield
Has Pomeranz missed a start since the trade with San Diego? I don’t see what was wrong with that trade for the Sox.
arp7241
lol oh hunny I hope this is sarcasm
arp7241
Hahahaha just read your handle and feel like an idiot
Perksy
Because they overpaid. He is going from the soft NL west to the AL east and is not going to pitch to the same stats. Plus he’s had an injured riddled career. And it already surfaced at the end of last season.
mikeyank55
Trader Dave….trader….trader……
Farm system going bye-bye.
DL will be the stat board to watch this season Sox fans
bosox90
That was dangerously close to a haiku
baseball365
Classy statement from McCann. It was a sound signing to begin with and he was simply displaced by arguably, the most electric and talented young catcher in baseball. He pulled up his bootstraps and opened himself to the trade. You have to admire that.
As for the Red Sox it’s been a strange spring and not enough has been written about it. Why? Usually for a media, especially those covering the Sox, they usually never run out of stuff to stay, but it’s been eerily quite this spring out of the Boston media. Farrell continues to make one strange hopey/wishy type of statement after another (his sugar coating this spring has been extra rich). The team overall hasn’t looked all that great and showing distinct weaknesses, despite having a few (literally only a couple at this point) talent rich young players. The bullpen looks terrible, yet again and I don’t think anyone can provide a sound argument otherwise. What many of us have known, their rotation has it’s questions and now with Price and his ominous statements, we shouldn’t hold our breath on his health. You almost have to guarantee that Porcello regresses some.
Only reason I am so harsh on the Sox is because they have been painted, yet again (sigh), the “clear cut” front runner in the AL East (and AL in general), yet evades all obvious logic. Who knows…
outinleftfield
I hate to say it as an O’s fan, but the Red Sox are the clear cut front runner in the AL East. More offensive weapons and if Price and Pomeranz return then they clearly have more pitching weapons. Spring training stats are pretty much meaningless as long as your boys come out of camp healthy. Other than Price, Pomeranz, and Ramirez, I can’t think of any Red Sox that are hurt.
baseball365
So basically your greatest (or close to it) offensive threat (and DH and 1st baseman) and your #1 $31mm a year pitcher and #4 or #5 pitcher are injured and that’s meaningless? Not saying they are a 70 win team, but I don’t think they’re a 92 win team either. I could see them coming up short a game or two at years end. Maybe 87 or 88 wins. Despite all odds that state otherwise. They don’t have depth. Their farm took a big hit after all the call-ups in recent years and the many, many trades. Benintendi will be called up soon, but away from that, the farm is a lot more depleted than we’re being told. Betts and Bogaerts have really been the only two success stories from the farm. Any others? I can’t think of any. No pitchers. No bullpen arms. Swihart is having a tough time. If the Red Sox were built as they are now with their 2014/15 version of the farm, I’d sign up for that whole best team in baseball theory. Don’t see it. Sorry.
ellisburks
Yeah other than the entire outfield, ss and 2B who has been a success from the Red Sox minors? plus of course the strong minor leaguers that allowed the trade for our ace and closer. But other than that what has their minor leagues done?
ellisburks
also Betts is the greatest offencive threat and it isn’t close. Hanley is maybe their 4th best hitter.
bosox90
Not really sure what team you are looking at. First off, David Price is probably our #3 starter, maybe #2. I’m not sure if you recall this, but they have Chris Sale. They also have the reigning Cy Young winner in Porcello, and for some reason that means nothing since he will regress a bit this year. He’s still going to be damn good. Rodriguez looks very good this spring, but most importantly healthy, and Wright appears right on track to be in the rotation as well.
Yes, Hanley’s health status is important and concerning, but they aren’t an offense anchored to him. Their offense is full of weapons, including the MVP runner up. Benintendi already has been called up, and will be the starting LF on Opening Day. They have possibly the best young outfield in the game, great both offensively and defensively, especially if Benintendi stays on his current trajectory.
As far as depth, they have to have one of the better benches in the American League. Vazquez is obviously not a strong hitter, but still has to be considered one of the best back-ups in the game based on his defense. Holt is valuable being able to play nearly every position, and Chris Young is just fine as a fourth outfielder if used correctly. They have guys like Marco Hernandez and Sam Travis ready to explode in AAA.
Pitching-wise, no they don’t have great depth. Kendrick has been pitching well in spring, but isn’t someone to get excited about. Owens has been a massive disappointment, and Elias is having injury concerns of his own. I am a bit worried about their bullpen. They do have a lot of quality arms, but every single one (besides Robbie Ross Jr.) have some kind of question mark. I think enough of them will be healthy/effective that the bullpen won’t hurt the team.
Regardless, tell me what team in the American League has better overall depth than the Red Sox? The fact that they are favorites isn’t because they are perfect, they are favorites in relation to other teams in the league. Blue Jays, Rangers, Indians, are all pretty thin. The Red Sox certainly have their flaws, but what team in the AL is in a much better position than they are?
lovethatdirtyh20
Well stated. Stop by http://www.SportsPlusMore.net and chat. Red Sox and NY fans talking baseball and more.
A'sfaninUK
“yet again (sigh), the “clear cut” front runner in the AL East (and AL in general), yet evades all obvious logic. Who knows…”
Evades obvious logic how? You are literally the only one who thinks this, therefore you are wrong. Anyone with half a brain would think their roster – when healthy – is far and away the best in the AL. They DO have the best 25 whether you like it or not. Their only problem, which is being shown now, was lack of depth.
Like do you seriously not think Sale-Price-Porcello-Pomeranz-Wright/Rodriguez is the best rotation in MLB? How do you NOT think this, is a better question.
baseball365
Pomeranz isn’t even a pitcher, so…Or I guess that’s what they label him as. And no, I’m not the only one that thinks this.
Wright/Rodriguez continue to deal with injuries
Price won’t even be active for opening day and my guess, you probably won’t see him until early to mid May and we’ll see what happens from there.
Porcello will almost certainly regress from last season, I’m not implying he’ll be bad, but he way out pitched himself last year.
Sale is the clear ace now.
Questionable rotation lacking any depth and a very suspect bullpen.
The O’s and Yanks wind up finishing ahead of the Sox this year, even if by a game, but way too bullish in the RS. Way, way too bullish. They’re going for their 11th “we won it in April” title in the last 12 or 13 years. So at least they’re consistent with that.
ellisburks
Wright and Rodriguez are both healthy and pitching very well this spring. They are a very good 3/4 or 4/5 starting tandem.
CriminalMethod
Injuries would have to play a huge role for the Red Sox not to finish on top of the American League, never mind the AL East. Their rotation is head and shoulders above anyone else in the division and their offense is top five in the majors. The Yankees are on the right track, but their rotation is very iffy with a lot of potential injury concerns. Tanaka’s elbow scares me, CC has a ton of miles on him, and Pineda has great stuff but can never seem to put it all together.
lovethatdirtyh20
ERod has pitched well all spring. Wright was good in his last start. Don’t know where the blurb that Sale and Porcello were the only healthy starters.
mikeyank55
Your right in target 365.
By Memorial Day is will be desperation in the Fens…
By 4th of July it will he Patriots’ jerseys.
Trader Dave has done exactly what he has always done; use the young talent to get overpaid on the downside of their career veterans.
StillMadAboutGame6
Yea I’ll echo that, they’re a deep team and they can beat you(when healthy) with great pitching and great hitting. Even with the current injury situation they’re still a very good team
cgallant
Let’s not forget Steven Wright has thrown great in spring training and has fully healed his shoulder. ERod has been pain free in his knee as well so I’m not too concerned at this point.
Pedro Cerrano's Voodoo
Yeah the house of cards lol. I feel like #5 is the only ?
cxcx
“The Red Sox are the clear cut front runner in the AL East. More offensive weapons”
What more offensive weapons? They swapped Moreland in for Ortiz and that’s about it.
Brixton
Benintendi and a healthy Sandoval are also much better than what they had last year
MB923
I wouldn’t say Sandoval is much better just yet. Can he be? Sure. But don’t turn down the possibility of 2015 Sandoval happening again.
lovethatdirtyh20
I agree, Sandoval is better but keep the fingers crossed if you’re a Sox fan. If he can hit between 260-280 and play adequate D, Sox fans should jump for joy. So far, so good in ST for the big guy.
mikeyank55
Hey Brix…without Papi in the middle of the order there is no glue…so the bricks will come falling down on top of one another. There’s no protection in the lineup…no batter to fear…and without Papi walking around the clubhouse expect it will become toxic with malcontent attitudes from Hanley and his cohorts dragging others into it!
ellisburks
Yeah nobody fears Betts, or toxic Hanley or X. Love me some Big Papi but it isn’t like The Sox are lacking in offence
A'sfaninUK
Moreland-Sandoval-Leon is not that bad, especially when the top 6 are all elite. Boston does lack depth though, only knock on them,
mike156
Red Sox are clear favorites in the East–Pomeranz was a late season add-on and even if Price is out for a short while, they added Sale. This fretting over depth is a little crazy–no team can afford eight starters of the caliber that the Red Sox writers seem to think is necessary.
The problems the Red Sox are having are similar to the ones the Yankees used to have. When you are expected to win 100 games and be favorites for the WS, every flaw is of monumental importance.
stymeedone
The lack of material for the writers is because of how DD works. There are few if any leaks from his front office. As to the “more offensive weapons” claim, Sandoval is not a player you can rely on for his performance. Benitendi is a rookie that will have to adjust to a league that will adjust to him. Quite a range of outcomes possible, and Holt can’t play both positions if neither should suffice.
A'sfaninUK
Yeah, you need to view Benintendi not like other rookies. Think “slightly lesser Trout” – he’s already hitting 3rd in this loaded lineup, the guy is a beast.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Probably as good a time as any to establish the fact that…
THE PADRES AREN’T TRADING FOR SANDOVAL!
lesterdnightfly
“Club president Mark Shapiro hired sports psychologist Angus Mugford last year…”
Angus Mugford? Wasn’t that the real name of Fat B*st*rd?
Mikel Grady
Respect for odorizzi. Was honest , it’s about the money.