The Cardinals have been scouting Cuban outfielder Luis Robert, Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports, as the team had evaluators at Robert’s recent workout in the Dominican Republic. It was reported last month that Robert left Cuba in November to pursue a career in Major League Baseball and he has since established residency in Haiti, as per MLB.com’s Jesse Sanchez.
As one scout tells Goold, the “floodgates have opened” on the Cardinals’ international signing processes. The Cards have already far exceeded their spending pool limit for the 2016-17 July 2 international signing period, and also added such non-pool players as the recently-signed Jose Adolis Garcia. It’s no surprise, therefore, that St. Louis is exploring yet another highly-touted star in Robert while they still can.
Robert has yet to be declared a free agent by MLB, and if that designation comes before June 15, the Cards still have a chance at landing the 19-year-old outfielder, who is subject to pool limits due to his age. If Robert isn’t a free agent by June 15, however, then he will become part of the next international signing class that opens on July 2. That would take the Cardinals (as well as the Astros, Athletics, Braves, Cubs, Dodgers, Nationals, Padres, Reds and Royals) out of the running for Robert’s services, as they would be limited to spending no more than $300K on any international prospect as punishment for exceeding their pool number.
Needless to say, Robert will command far beyond that $300K figure given the eye-popping early reports on his talent. One NL international scouting director tells Sanchez that Robert is second only to Shohei Otani on the list of best international talents in baseball, describing the 19-year-old as “a five-tool guy that can be in the big leagues soon.” An international scouting director for an AL team goes even further, calling Robert “the best player on the planet, and that’s no exaggeration.”
Eight teams (the Cubs, Dodgers and Royals, as well as the Angels, Diamondbacks, Rays, Red Sox and Yankees) are currently under the $300K limit for past excesses of the spending cap, with the latter five teams regaining their full spending eligibility on July 2. So Robert would have a larger market for his services if he is named a free agent sooner rather than later, not to mention the fact that he is likely to score a bigger contract while the old international signing rules are still in place. The new rules, as negotiated in the new collective bargaining agreement, place a stricter signing cap on international players and go into effect for the coming July 2 class.
If they sign this kid then it’s not gonna be cheap, I think 30 million at the most.
Is that possible with the new cap?
He could be declared a free agent before the new cap goes into affect
I think that’s steep for him. Moncada got roughly that much, but only because the Yankees, Red Sox, and Dodgers were all bidding for him. A bidding war between the Cards, Astros, Padres, Braves and Reds probably doesn’t get that high.
Cardinal and cheap always go in same sentence.
This is a terrible narrative that people have latched onto. They are pushing $150MM in payroll for 2017 and have spent freely in the international market.
No they don’t go sign top free agents every off-season, but they spend money to keep the players they want to keep. They’re not cheap and payroll increases every year.
Then if they are such big spenders then quit taking compensation picks for being “small” market. Heyward Pujols lackey left because didn’t want to spend. Cueto Lester price you didn’t spend for them. Darvish Tanaka arrieta are free agents this year. Wanna bet cards keep hands in their pockets ? With fans like you drinking the kool aid they will never have to spend money.
Wow. You truly don’t understand how the markets work. Your statement is quite possibly one of the stupidest things I have ever seen posted on these comment threads, and that took some effort, because there are some really stupid comments all of the time.
This is laughable on so many levels.
Fans aren’t the ones taking the compensation picks. In fact, 30 of MLB’s 30 teams decided to give St Louis the opportunity to recieve those picks. Don’t whine about it if your team didn’t feel it necessary to change the way it’s done. If there was such a large sentiment that STL – which is admittedly able to outspend it’s geographic market – isn’t deserving of these picks, they wouldn’t recieve them.
And why do we want them to spend more money? History has shown that free agent players on long-term deals don’t typically payoff in the later stages of the deal. Matt Holiday was a great signing as (technically) a free agent, but since then, there hasn’t been anyone I wanted them to spend grotesquely to retain.
Also, you say that we’re big spenders who shouldn’t recieve compensation picks but go on to say we need to spend more? Which is it? With a payrill of $150M, I am content considering where that ranks among MLB teams.
Cards offered Heyward more the. the Cubs did…Not signing pujols allowed us to keep Molina, Wainwright, Carpenter, and Holiday. They spend, just make efforts not to overspend
I can type slower if you don’t understand. In business company’s may get assistance if they are struggling i.e. Compensation picks . When they are back on their feet they no longer get assistance i.e making big profits (cards) so cards aren’t small if they make big profits while ignorant Fans still support them thinking they are struggling . Understand yet or need me to draw a picture?
Don’t entertain the troll. He’s obviously clueless and the ONLY one the doesn’t realize it is him.
Lol. That’s not the situation here at all.
I believe you are in the lead for worst analogy of the year!!
Comp picks, negotiated in a collective bargaining agreement, likened to government bailouts. That’s hilarious.
another guy that says they dont spend but when they do you say its an overpay. Did then not offer a bunch of money to Price and Heyward, Did they not just sign Fowler. Did they not shell out a lot of money at the time to Holliday, Wainwright, Molina? Did they not go to the playoffs all but 1 year since 2010 and go to two World Series and win 1? I think they know what they are doing
Braves need this guy
I doubt MLB will designate him a free agent earlier. MLB works for the owners. They don’t want to pay a player a lucrative amount of money. Manfred more than Selig has a short leash.
Lol, what drugs are you on?
Reinsdorf has to break the White Sox short sighted view on International signings for this kid. The Sox could easily offset the cost of signing him through deadline trades of Robertson, Cabrera, Frazier, Jones and Quintana.
Is Mike Trout no longer on this planet?
what is this supposed to mean?
One of the scouts is quoted saying that Robert is the “best player on the planet.”
maybe he is do people think there will never be someone as good or better then Trout? I mean Betts is right there with him
Mookie is not right there with Mike Trout. He had a very good season last year, but trout has been doing it for 5 years. Let’s see Mookie do it a couple times before trying to say he’s at that level.
And it’s more saying that this guy who has never faced consistent MLB competition is better than a guy who has been destroying it seems insane.
Exactly this. A lot of guys can put up a great season (Harper comes to mind), but nobody is doing it EVERY SINGLE YEAR like Trout. He’s a different kind of beast.
your right, im just saying that it isnt impossible. There used to be nobody better then Bond, nobody better then Pujols
It is absolutely possible and likely probable that at some point someone will put up Trout like numbers or better. But (imo) claiming a 19 year old cuban player who has never faced MLB pitching IS better than him is crazy.
“An international scouting director for an AL team goes even further, calling Robert “the best player on the planet, and that’s no exaggeration.”’
So…this guy who’s never played against MLB talent is better than Mike Trout? I’d like to know who this scouting director is.
it would be funny if he worked for the angels! lol
it would be funny if he works for the angels.
It’s a guy who is on his first day of scouting.
It’s about time the White Sox stepped up to sign an international free agent. At his age (19) and the fact the team is in the early early stages of a rebuild that will hopefully begin paying dividends by 2019, Robert should be an ideal target. The fact that he plays in the outfield is an added benefit with the organization currently light on elite prospects there.
The White Sox have ample money to spend in international free agency and also two top Cuban ambassadors to woo Robert, slugger Jose Abreu and elite prospect Yoan Moncada. They should not let this opportunity pass them by.
To start this comment off, I would like to say that I’d love for the White Sox to sign him.
With that being said, part of me feels like they’d be wasting a greater opportunity. Whoever signs this kid will definitely be going over their international budget, and with that, they’ll get the “ban” for the next couple years. Sure, they’ll get one potentially great player, but they’ve already passed up a handful of international players with talent. To me, if you’re going to go all in on a guy and blow past your limit, I feel like you need to get a BUNCH of the higher profile guys to make up for being limited the following couple years.
Like I said, I’d love for the Sox to sign him, but I’d be kind of bummed by them not taking advantage of the situation earlier. I guess if his free agency doesn’t kick in until after the deadline for this period, my comment won’t really matter, and they’ll still have a chance to do what I’m talking about. If that’s the case, I hope they are smart enough to go all in.
Seattle needs prospects, so why not sign this guy.
I wanna hear the Twins are in on this guy.
Headline should read: Cardinals (and 29 other teams) interested in Luis Robert.
The Cardinals are absent of 1st/2nd round picks for this year’s draft. Robert will most likely be signed by the Cardinals if he’s declared before the deadline. The Cardinals have the most income over the last few years. The hype Robert is getting will comfort the fans in lieu of recent events. They’re already arguably a Top 10 Farm System.
They’ve also committed a lot of money in FA this year, so it’s questionable how much more money they can/are willing to spend.
Also I’m curious if there is anyone besides Cardinals fans making the argument for the system top 10, I couldn’t find any major publication that ranks them that high.
The Cardinals system has been producing an abundance of talented players for the last decade – all while public media scouting has consistently undervalued their farming system.
calikid is a stupidly unrealistic homer.
The cards are a great franchise run by very smart people, but judging by his posts over the time I’ve paid attention, he is an unrealistic homer. There are actually quite a few cardinals fans here who are realistic people, he’s not one of them.
Yeah, just see above. Cuz it’s happened they are. not a great line to take for future performance.
Baseball America has them #12 i believe but that was before Reyes injury
there are quite a few teams around that.
Gotta say though fstop, I appreciate your commenting. Haven’t seen you post much here, but you seem to be a person who has their feelings but isn’t super homery. I know my praises means nothing here, but I just wanted to let you know I appreciate what I’ve seen from you.
Orioles should make an atttempt at him