The Padres are “bullish” on former top prospect Luis Sardinas following his strong showing with the club following an August trade, but they’re also still keeping an eye out for a long-term upgrade at the position, reports MLB.com’s A.J. Cassavell.
“Realistically, [shortstop] will be something that we’ll still be looking at in Spring Training, comparing what’s out there, most likely via trade, versus what we have in-house,” San Diego general manager A.J. Preller tells Cassavell.
Preller knows Sardinas well, as he played a significant role in signing the now-23-year-old switch-hitter when he was working in the Rangers’ front office. Sardinas emerged as a Top 100 prospect in the eyes of MLB.com and Baseball Prospectus, but he struggled through parts of three big league seasons before finding his first taste of Major League success with San Diego last year. In an admittedly small sample of 120 plate appearances, Sardinas batted .287/.353/.417 with a pair of homers, six doubles and a triple. He’s long been touted as an above-average defensive shortstop as well, so if he can continue to provide some semblance of offense, he could function as a long-term option in San Diego. Certainly, though, the Padres aren’t going to hang all their hopes on a month’s worth of plate appearances.
While Zack Cozart is an obvious trade candidate, it’s unlikely that San Diego would spring to part with young talent to acquire him with just one remaining year of club control. Looking elsewhere in the league, Adeiny Hechavarria’s name has come up in trade rumors over the past year, but the Marlins have repeatedly been said to want pitching help if he’s to be moved, and the Padres are thin in that regard themselves. Speculatively speaking, Freddy Galvis could eventually become available with J.P. Crawford looming on the horizon in Phialdelphia, while the A’s and Brewers have controllable options in Marcus Semien and Jonathan Villar.
The most common speculative name to be tied to the Padres is Jurickson Profar, due both to the lack of an opening in the Rangers’ middle infield and to Preller’s time in Texas. However, Profar didn’t do much with the bat in 2017 and is controllable only for another three seasons after missing two straight years with shoulder injuries. There’s quite possibly still some interest on San Diego’s behalf, but Profar is far from a sure thing, and it’s been a long time since he was the game’s top overall prospect.
Travis’ Wood
None of those trade options make any sense for either side except for Galvis. Padres don’t need to be giving up young talent for short term pieces…
Dalton1017
Since when is 3 years short term (Profar)
alexgordonbeckham
He doesn’t really fit with their window. By the time they are competitive again he is likely gone.
agentx
I’m not a doctor, but I’d be concerned about the long-term effects of those shoulder problems on Profar’s ability to play SS regularly.
mcdusty31
I was thinking the same
lesterdnightfly
I’m not a psychic, but I was thinking the same thing.
Travis’ Wood
3 years is definitely short term, especially for a team thats at least 1-2 years away from competing.
padreforlife
1-2 years? Lol
peterdrgn
exactly..short term?…lol
YourDaddy
Don’t argue with the all knowing Ryan.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
That awkward moment when I haven’t talked to the guy you just replied to on this thread
daveineg
Villar hasn’t turned 26 and is controllable through 2020 which is why the Brewers aren’t looking to deal him. But he’s not a very good shortstop defensively.
Whyamihere
he also had an incredibly lucky year at the plate too. I expect him to come crashing back to earth next year.
srdiaz1972
Why not take a low cost feeler on Erick Aybar?
AddisonStreet
Sardinas is already better than him, why bother?
YourDaddy
.237 with below average defense is better than Aybar?
zippytms
Aybar hit .243/.303/.320 with below average defense last year. He’s an upgrade how? I’d rather roll with Sardiñas and Cordoba.
kbarr888
They should have kept Trea Turner
norcalblue
Indeed. Of all the inept and unethical moves made by Preller, the gifting of Trea Turner to the Nats is at the very top of the list.
Weighed
Haha that was the worst attempt of building a club when they traded for Kimbrel and Kemp. Losing Trea Turner might sting the most.
jdgoat
Losing turner sucks but at least they got good, controllable talent back. They definitely lost the trade by its bearable
DeadliestCatch
Had they kept turner theyd be looking for upgrades at 1st instead. Keeping turner only creates another hole.
The padres didnt need turners skillset as much as they needed myers.
Between Jankowski and spangenberg the padres had plenty of speed but lacked a true power presence in the lineup. Myers provides them with a right handed power bat at 1B which is hard to come by as only less than 1/3 of the teams in the league have a power presence at 1st. Even now they need myers skillset even more with margot and jankowski and other speed guys in the minors.
Furthermore the padres had plenty of ss options and right now have plenty in the lower minors developing- you look at their top prospects they have 3 or 4 ss options in their top prospects and 1 1B in naylor.
Had they kept turner the padres wouldnt have much power in the lineup- only renfoe represents a significant power threat and schimpf we will see.
Travis’ Wood
The Padres would no doubt trade Myers for Turner today so you are incorrect. Skillset isn’t that important when one player (Turner) has significantly higher upside than the other (Myers).
DeadliestCatch
Turner is a high BABIP guy that will steal you bases. He will get you a lot of runs IF you have guys driving him in. Notice how there are two parts to that equation turner getting on base and someone driving him in.
The padres- pre turner trade- didnt have many guys that could drive them in. Hence the need for a guy to drive the players in base in. They had plenty of guys to get on base long term but no long term solution to get them home. Jankowski Margot Spangenberg and whoever else will get on base and will need guys to drive them home. Jankowski margot spangenberg will also get you stolen bases as will myers.
Myers is a 25-25 talent. At best hes a 30-30 talent and at worst a 20-20 talent. Turner WILL NEVER hit 20hrs consistently. He hit 13 last year with an unprecedented 60 pts spike in his iso- doesnt match his minors numbers. Thatll drop.
The only point in turners favor is hes making nothing compared to myers. Financially it isnt even close. So course theyd take the cheap control over the expensive control. What team wouldnt. But if they were to have turner theyd still have inadequate production at 1st from guys past their prime with no long term answer outside Naylor- bauers would have been alonso 2.0 at petco. The padres at least have a surplus of ss options going forward in the minors. If sardinas pans out great we got lucky and have answers at ss and 1B. If not and one of the others pans out great we got answers at 1st and ss again.
chesteraarthur
“The padres didnt need turners skillset as much as they needed myers.”
Huh? Just look at the type of options that are available for 1b vs those that are for ss. A 115 wrc+ from a first basemen really isn’t anything special. And myers’ iso puts him at 13 out of 23 qualifying 1b.
Travis’ Wood
How hard do you think it is to find a 1B as good as Myers? The answer is not very…
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
“Turner is a high BABIP guy that will steal you bases. He will get you a lot of runs IF you have guys driving him in. Notice how there are two parts to that equation turner getting on base and someone driving him in.”
That’s on the guys batting after Turner, not Turner himself.
EndinStealth
Yeah, the point he was trying to make was the Padres didn’t have anyone to drive him in. While Myers isn’t great he’s decent enough at getting the job done.
norcalblue
With all due respect, you have got to be crazy. Turner will be a cornerstone player for the Nats for the next 5-6 years. You can never have enough assets like Turner. His presence on that roster makes ALL other quality assets better.
Finally, if your GM is stupid enough to trade an asset as valuable as Turner, then at least get equal value.
DeadliestCatch
Well, padres just locked up myers for 6 years and if he can stay healthy hes a corner stone for them for the next 6 years.
norcalblue
Well that’s great, good for the Padres. So, is it your point that because they have Myers now for six years Preller can now be excused for giving away Trea Turner?
chesteraarthur
He’s locked up at pretty much market rate, I’m not entirely sure that’s a huge positive for his value. The padres are taking on a lot of risk both from injury and due to that second half crater job.
DeadliestCatch
Is it your point that half a season of turner somehow negates the fact the padres have 0 options at 1st base currently outside myers and the 1B market is worse than the ss market in terms of FA and trades combined? its either myers and questions at ss or turner and questions at 1b. The two go hand in hand.
chesteraarthur
“1B market is worse than the ss market in terms of FA and trades combined?” Um, what?
1b options that were available – Moss, Trumbo, Bautista, EE, Bruce in a trade could probably play 1b, etc etc. It is much easier to find a 1b than it is to find a ss. Turner + one of those options is likely better than Meyers + whatever they trot out at ss.
I get it, you’re a padres fan and want to see the best, but anyone who looks at the situation objectively sees that Padres would undo that trade if they could. It’s much harder to find a SS than it is to find a 1B. And Myers just really isn’t this big power threat that you are trying to make him out to be.
DeadliestCatch
Oh yes the padres would definitely pay EE and bautista and trumbo that money and sacrifice their 2nd round pick cause you know they came with a QO offer. Glad you really thought those choices through. Really shows. A rebuilding team would certainly do that. Which is why all those other rebuilding teams did so. Which is why they winded up back or with a contender. You do know the padres rarely spend on big FA right? Which is why i didnt list desmond ramierez and others- out of the padres price range and cost picks.
Moss and Bruce are both LH…..if you actually read what I wrote the padres are getting RH production from myers which isnt very common around the league atm. But i get it. You must of overlooked that.
DeadliestCatch
Also i never made him to be a big piwer threat. I never said he was gonna belt 40 hrs and strike out a lot. What i did say was he will be a 25-25 guy on an annual basis and has more power than turner projected .192 iso while turner has .158. So myers offers more of a power threat than turner does which is what my point was about…….the padres needed power more than they needed turners skillset. They have enough fast guys that can steal bases. Jankowski margot spangenberg etc. They have renfoe and thats it outside of power and him as their only RH power bat- without myers.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
“the padres needed power more than they needed turners skillset”
That’s not true. They need a serviceable shortstop more than a guy who will hit 25 home runs a season but strike out 100 times
chesteraarthur
I actually just stopped reading your post after you said there were more ss options than 1b options from trade or free agency because that statement is utterly ridiculous. But I guess when you just keep changing what counts as an option, maybe that works?
I’m still not sure what your point even is. So you are only counting cheap controllable 1b options as a fit? Which short stops fit that mold that are more available, exactly? Oh, none? Cuz ss’s are more expensive from both a $ and talent standpoint? You are just changing the goal posts of your argument because it is flawed.
chesteraarthur
“but lacked a true power presence in the lineup. Myers provides them with a right handed power bat ”
As mentioned, he’s not even that much of a power bat for a 1b.
DeadliestCatch
Im sorry- is it that difficult to understand options when talking aboit options for padres means options theyd realistically sign and have a chance to sign? If thats too far of a stretch for you mentally why are you even commenting?
Yeah i was definitely talking abou the 1B market and ss market referring to other teams that need help. Again was it really that difficult for you?
Course if renfoe stinks it up padres should be talked about as suitors for bryce harper in the coming years. Cause when discussing possible options for future RF people definitely think hey bryce harper in a padres uniform. Not like theyd be talking about possible targets.
DeadliestCatch
You said 13th out of 23- im guessing qualified 1b based on iso. Which means hes offered more power than 10 other 1B- and has better k rate than napoli moss and has better walk rates than bruce and moss. Which you listed as “options” for the padres.
davidcoonce74
Cory Spangenberg is a base stealer? That’s an interesting notion. Jankowski is a fourth outfielder and an absolutely awful hitter. The Padres haven’t had an actual shortstop in, what, a decade? First basemen are easier to find and Myers is good but nowhere near Turner.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Fourth outfielders/awful hitters don’t have .332 OBP’s
davidcoonce74
Fourth outfielders slug 313 and strike out 30 percent of the time though. There’s plenty of fourth outfielders with 330 OBPs. That’s all Jankowski does at the plate. He’s Willie Harris.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
That’s all he has to do at the plate. And that OBP is likely to go up, mind you. He didn’t have a strikeout problem in the minors so as he gains experience it will get better, not worse.
davidcoonce74
He also didn’t face the same kinds of pitchers in the minors as he does now. His approach at the plate is bad and opposing teams have picked up on it. He’s looking for something down and away he can slap at and then run like hell. So pitchers are just busting him up and in and he can’t catch up. It leads to a few more walks, of course, because when you’re looking for one kind of pitch you’re going to draw walks (see Randy Milligan for an example).
But slugging 313 while striking out 100 times in 380 PAs just isn’t going to cut it. The speed is nice although he’s not an efficient base stealer and the defense is good, but I’m not sold that he’s anything more than a fourth outfielder.
padreforlife
So what? Let’s see if he performs b4 getting crazy, guy is strike out machine
padreforlife
He hit .210 with 10 homers on road cmon
he’s Wally Joyner
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
If they kept Turner they’d still have Jake Bauers and they still could have traded for Josh Naylor. One of those two would be our 1st baseman of the future. Even without them, first base is still an easier position to fill than shortstop.
bleacherbum
Preller gets grilled for Trea Turner for good reason but Byrnes doesn’t get enough blame for the Forsythe trade. He could have been a more than serviceable SS for the last 3 years, but we traded him along with Boxberger and Andriese for Jesse Hahn and Alex Torres. That one stings too.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Forsythe isn’t a SS but yeah we lost that trade too. But there’s a reason Byrnes doesn’t work as a GM anymore.
bleacherbum
Yeah I know he isn’t a full time SS but I remember we played him there a handful of times and he did well. He could have been a waaaaaay better option there in 15′ than peddling Will Middlebrooks, Clint Barmes and the little ninja out there everyday lol
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
“Furthermore the padres had plenty of ss options and right now have plenty in the lower minors developing- you look at their top prospects they have 3 or 4 ss options in their top prospects and 1 1B in naylor.”
All three of the Padres top shortstop prospects tanked this year. Preller signed a couple international shortstop prospects but they’re all years away and there’s no telling whether or not they will develop as hoped.
Myers arguably isn’t even an answer at 1st base if that tank job he pulled after the All Star game is how he’s going to play in the future. He really only has two good half-seasons so far in his Major League career.
cmancoley
It’s a lot easier to find a decent 1st baseman than it is to find someone to play SS. Anyone can play first and there’s trillions of options on the market right now
SixFlagsMagicPadres
Losing Turner was bad, but to be fair, it still remains to be seen if he can keep up the production from last year. Plus, it’s not like Myers is a complete garbage player. Like others have said, regardless of what they did, thy would have ended up with a hole at either SS or 1B, so people would still be complaining regardless.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Josh Naylor or Jake Bauers. Done
disgruntledreader 2
Who are two guys who will never be regular starters at 1B in the majors, Alex?
beersy
Oh you must have missed the memo, Turner is going to be a perennial all star and MVP candidate who is a 1st ballot HOFer. All that from 2 great months in the Majors. 🙂
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Don’t talk to beersy in 2040. He’s already made plans to fly out to see Will Myers’ induction into Cooperstown that year.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Both top 100 prospects in baseball. They both have fair shots at being regulars someday
Whyamihere
Naylor and Bauers? Neither are top 100s right now…
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
2016 MLB Prospect watch. #73 and #89
Whyamihere
cool, so they were top 100s a year ago. Neither was on the top 10 1B prospect list, and it’d be pretty surprising if there were that many 1B on their top 100. Do you think sam travis and rhys Hoskins are top 100s?
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
We’ll see. Naylor played very well in 2016. If he’s not on the top 100 list anymore it will be because guys who used to be below him made bigger gains than he did, not because he slowed down at all. Haven’t really paid attention to Bauers.
Whyamihere
You and I have very different ideas of very well… He played alright at A ball, but not really as well as you’d hope for a bat only player. There’s no reason the believe he’s better than someone like Vogelbach at this point.
beersy
No, I’ll wait to see how Myers’ career turns out before making any travel plans. I wish you would do the same for Turner’s career. Judging a trade a season and a half after it is made just seems ludacris to me, sorry I don’t agree with your views “Westcoast”.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Turner doesn’t have to be a HOFer for the Padres to lose that trade
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Oh look, Jake Bauers is #76 on the new ranking. You were saying…
Whyamihere
Cool I guess they don’t consider him a 1B for their list. What did Naylor rank?
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Not on there. I’m guessing a lot of guys below him must have made gains because Naylor didn’t necessarily do anything to hurt his stock in the past 6 months
YourDaddy
Ryan on his many alter egos will be voting you down.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Does Dad let you drive slow on the driveway on Saturday?
padreforlife
Janko drove in 4 runs at Petco last year he’s Peter Bourgeois
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
He’s not there to drive in runs. He’s there to be the run that gets driven in
davidcoonce74
Jankowski scored 53 runs in 383 plate appearances last season. That’s pretty lousy for a guy who was mostly a leadoff hitter. It translates out to about 80 runs scored over a full season, which is really not acceptable for a leadoff hitter. I appreciate your love for his slightly-above league-average 332 OBP, but he’s really not much of a player offensively. If you’re starting Jankowski you’re losing runs in droves.
Not to keep bringing this up, but Rickey once batted 241 over 602 plate appearances and scored 110 runs. That’s a leadoff hitter.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Not love, just realistic. And it’s hard to score runs when the guys batting behind you aren’t hitting jack squat.
padreforlife
He’s there for what to hit .240? He’s a journeymen Peter Bourgeois
padreforlife
Exactly
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
He’s there to get on base 33% of the time
bleacherbum
Turner stings, we all know that. But to be able to turn that 2015 debacle into what Preller was able to turn it into is impressive. Ranked the number 3 farm system in all of baseball a few weeks ago with 6 of the organizations top 30 being shortstops. Gotta hope one of those guys will pan out.
padreforlife
Farm System blah blah hold off on bouquets
for beloved farm system.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Every great player was a prospect once
bleacherbum
The Padres starting shortstop this year will either be Sardinas or they will just sign Aybar. Nothing to see here.
padresgroundzero
Aybar sounds like another Alexei Ramirez. Better to go with a younger talent.
unitedmets
Wonder if the Mets would trade A-Cabrera to the Padres for Brandon Maurer
Then make Reyes the everyday shortstop with Flores and Ceccini getting reps there too
jdgoat
I doubt the pads would do that. Maurer is controllable while Cabrera isn’t
mcdusty31
Reyes isn’t a good defensive SS anymore
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Or we could not trade you Maurer, wait two years and then sign Cabrera away from you guys. Ever think about that?
disgruntledreader 2
Ceccini is the only player in that post who might conceivably be of interest to the Padres, but his arm likely doesn”t hold up at SS for very long.
crazysull
If they trade for someone who ever they trade away will need Tommy John a week later and the Padres will claim they didn’t know anything about it
BigB
Tyler Saladino
padresgroundzero
Allegedly, the Padres offered Jankowski to the Tigers in exchange for Iglesias, but the Tigers said no. I like Iglesias as a stopgap solution for SS, I wonder if there’s something else the Pads could offer Detroit to close the deal.
Travis’ Wood
I don’t believe that for a second. Jankowski>Iglesias easily especially when years of control are figured in.
padresgroundzero
I like Jankowski, but he doesn’t hit well enough to be a full time outfielder. Plus, the Pads already have their future CF with Margot. So I think Jankowski is worth Iglesias, even with the fewer years of control. Iglesias would dramatically improve the Padres infield defense, which was simply awful last year.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Jankowski got on base at a .332 clip, a number that is likely to go up if he can cut down on the strikeouts. And Iglesias wouldn’t improve anything. He would just sign with someone else before the Padres could contend and then the Padres would be in the exact same position only without Jankowski. That trade makes no sense in any way shape or form for the Padres.
davidcoonce74
Jankowski is fast and a good defensive player. But he can’t hit at all. His K rate was horrifying for a guy with zero power at all. You can’t play a left fielder with a 313 slugging percentage if you are serious about winning. But he’s a nice fourth outfielder for sure.
Whyamihere
Jankowski got on base at a 332 clip, a number that will likely go down when he not running a 343 babip. He’s projected to get 1 win next year… he’s alright, but not great.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
With his hitting style, maintaining that BABIP isn’t too far past reality. His OBP will go up if he can cut down on the K’s
Whyamihere
He ran a LD% 10% higher than ever in his career given his career batted ball profile, An average ML hitter would should carry a BABIP of .289. He’s fast enough to beat out some infield hits, but it’s not going to consistently run him over 50 points higher. You can squint and see positive signs for him but only if you assume this new higher LD rate is for real, while the strikeout rate is going to regress closer to minor league numbers, and he’s able to maintain this walk rate without providing any power whatsoever, which is rare.
SixFlagsMagicPadres
I could see Jankowski becoming a Jarrod Dyson-type player. He’s probably not going to be an MLB-regular outfielder, but he can be a good 4th outfielder if they properly utilize his speed and defense.
jakem59
It is far past reality for him to keep that up, that’s a Mike Trout level BABIP. The guy can’t hit enough to carry that number. His exit velocity is atrocious and has NO power, gap or homerun, to speak of.
padreforlife
Couldn’t agree more
OCTraveler
My target team would be Atlanta – not sure if the Braves see anything on the Padres’ roster or farm they want, but since Atlanta has their shortstop for the next 8-10 years (Dansby Swanson), they have a very attractive option for the Padres – Chase d’ Arnuad (Sp?). – this is a player you might be able to build an infield around
Travis’ Wood
I’m assuming this is a joke. Chase d’Arnaud is 30 and sucks.
jdgoat
He’s good at dropping albums
chesteraarthur
Are you a pads fan?
AddisonStreet
Awesome trolling, bro.
bleacherbum
Fernando Tatis Jr. Isn’t even on the organizations top 30
bleacherbum
And he looks like he might be the future SS
padresgroundzero
More likely third base — which is fine, because the Pads don’t have a lot of good 3B prospects.
bleacherbum
Saw him at the Padres v Rangers futures game at Petco a few months ago and he looked really good.
SixFlagsMagicPadres
Yeah Tatis Jr. is sneaky good. We’ll have to see what he does as he develops more.
beersy
What top 30 list were you looking at? How on Earth is Tatis not one of the top 30 Padre prospects?
bleacherbum
I was looking at the organizational top 30 rankings on mlb.com, I think he isn’t on there because of their grading and qualification requirements. He should be on the list this year for sure.
beersy
Those rankings were from last year, I’m sure he’ll be on this years list, coming out soon I believe. BA is quite high on him it seems.
steelerbravenation
Jankowski & Maurer to the Rangers for Profar, Faulkner & a low prospect.
padresgroundzero
Rangers would most likely want a lot more in return for Profar. Even considering his injuries, he has a very high ceiling — he used to be the #1 prospect in all of baseball.
bleacherbum
I would do that trade in a heartbeat as a Padre fan
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Why would the Padres do that? Travis Jankowski alone is worth more than Jurickson Profar. And if the Padres do trade for Profar then best case scenario they contend in his last year of club control.
oceansnake84
As nice as Travis Jankowski is he’s not worth more than Profar but i’m sure Preller already offered him to the Rangers.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Jankowski had a higher WAR than Profar this past season and is controllable for five more seasons as opposed to Profar’s three. Jankowski is worth more.
oceansnake84
he’s not but that’s ok
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Oh but he is. The people who argue that Profar is some super valuable piece are ignorant of the facts that it’s been over 3 years since he was a top prospect and that he is a free agent after the 2019 season.
padreforlife
Janko is not MLB starter on competing team
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Sure he is
strostro
You can get Iglesias from the Tigers
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
I’d rather wait two years and then sign him away from the Tigers
sandman12
Pads can have Hechevarria if they’ll give Paddack back.
padresgroundzero
Paddack with TJ is still better than Hechevarria.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Or we could keep Paddack, wait two years and then sign Hechevarria away from you guys
bleacherbum
Paddack stays, he will be the number 2 or 3 starter on the next really good Padres team.
2019 Rotation:
Anderson Espinoza
Cal Quantrill
Luis Perdomo
Chris Paddack
Adrian Morejon
davidcoonce74
Espinoza, Morejon and Paddack in 2019? That’s pretty aggresive. Espinoza is probably 2021, Paddack won’t even take the mound again until 2018 and Morejon is 17 years old and hasn’t played a game in any professional league. BA has him in the majors in 2022., which is probably realistic.
davidcoonce74
Morejon is 17 and hasn’t pitched an inning in professional baseball. BA expects him around 2022. Espinoza, 2021. Paddock wont even be pitching until 2018 b/c of the TJ. I’d guess he won’t be in the majors until 2020
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
So MLB Pipeline and BA differ by 2 years on Morejon and 3 years on Espinoza on when they will both make it to the Majors?
davidcoonce74
If MLB pipeline thinks Morejon will be in the majors in two years then that’s just staggering optimism. Kid hasn’t thrown a pitch yet in affiliated ball and is 17 years old.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
No, I said they differ by 2 years. MLB Pipeline says 2020 for Morejon.
whitemule70
Starlin Castro?
SixFlagsMagicPadres
They already burned that bridge a while back.
hook316
Iglesias for Jankowski
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Or we could just wait two years and then sign Iglesias away from the Tigers. Ever think about that?
bleacherbum
You can say it until you are blue in the face but these idiotic comments about Iglesias for Jank will keep flowing in, some people just can’t wrap their brain around common sense. And what common sense is telling us here kiddo’s is that you don’t trade years of control which is the life blood of a rebuilding team for a guy who has 2 years left before he hits the open market. FOR THE LAST TIME: why would the Padres trade for 2 years of Iglesias when they could just wait and sign him and not have to give away Jankowski?
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Oh and because I know someone is inevitably going to ask what makes me so sure the Padres will be able to sign a shortstop in his prime with two All Star games under his belt, I’m not sure they will be able to sign him but trading for him now isn’t going to make it any more likely.
padreforlife
Janko is Peter Bourgeois so if they can get something for him do it
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
That something has to help the Padres more than Jankowski will. Iglesias won’t do that because he’ll be gone before the Padres are good
gogopadres
I for one am looking forward to a full season of a 23 year old Sardinas who seems to of regained his plate discipline and confidence playing for the guy who signed him. How old was Rizzo when the Pads shipped him out?
SixFlagsMagicPadres
It will be better than seeing them trot out Amarista/Ramirez. Also, Rizzo was 21 when they traded him. Quite young at the time.
gogopadres
Don’t forget about Allen Cordoba who Cardinal scouts raved about. Allstar last year, two consequential batting titles hitting. 362 last year, a big arm and speed that will make you forget Trea Turner.
Whyamihere
How do you bring up Cordoba’s accomplishments without even mentioning the fact that he’s literally never even gotten to Short-season A ball? Thats a crazy big jump, and it would be shocking if he managed to stick with the team all year, an absolute miracle if he hit over .200
gogopadres
You are right. It is a huge jump. He is not our starting SS. I just think adding a guy winning MVP awards at his current level could be fun to watch until our top pitching prospects are ready.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
You aren’t wrong, but since the Padres have absolutely zero chance of contending this year they have the right to take a flier on a guy like Cordoba and then after the season, just stash him in the minors and hope he figures things out before he runs out of options.
davidcoonce74
The same Allen Córdoba that has taken five years to get out of rookie ball? Yeah, probably not a prospect.
padreforlife
Does it really matter when you’re losing 100 games who your SS is?
longtimepadrefan
Padres are rebuilding. They are tanking this year. In 2017 they will have the #3 pick and in 2018 they should have the #1 or #2 pick. They will start becoming competitive again in 2019 and 2020.
padreforlife
Because they have history of drafting so well?
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Let it go. That regime is gone
padreforlife
When they draft well a few years u can start projecting your beloved draft picks like they would draft high priced pick anyway.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
WIth the new slotting system, small market teams are no longer prevented from drafting “high priced picks.” At least not more than any other teams.
padreforlife
Again when Padres of 47 years who have never drafted we’ll start then you can use the draft pick card.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Once again, let it go. The regime that didn’t know how to draft is gone.
padreforlife
Keep that regime thing excuse it works well for franchise changing their “regime” every few years
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Yes and it looks like now they are stable for once. Hoping it stays that way.
padreforlife
Stable! Yea they bottomed out and have no choice but to languish as 100 loss team with Triple A pitching staff
padreforlife
Yes Preller traded guys like Turner, Gyorko, Grandel among others. Preller made the most absurd trades and signings and buried team in 80 mil dead money contracts for players not on team. That’s how he got 2017 Padres to worst team in baseball with Triple A starting pitching
padreforlife
Mad scientist at work
degrom4mvp48
Trade: Padres/Angels
Padres Receive: SS Andrelton Simmons, RHP Vicente Campos
Angels Receive: RHP Jarred Cosart, LHP Robbie Erlin, MiLB SS Jose Rondon
mvpalmar
Trade: A’s, Padres.
Padres get: MiLB 3B Matt Chapman.
A’s get: MiLB 2B Luis Urias and MiLB SS Jose Rondon.
mvpalmar
Alternative trade: A’s, Padres
Padres get: 2B Joey Wendle
A’s get: MiLB 2B Carlos Asuaje