The Braves and Mariners have announced a trade involving younger assets. Atlanta will receive lefties Luiz Gohara and Thomas Burrows, while Seattle will pick up outfielder Mallex Smith and righty Shae Simmons. Seattle has designated righty Cody Martin to clear roster space.
The 20-year-old Gohara has only reached the Class A level, but is considered a high-quality pitching prospect. He worked to a 1.81 ERA over 69 2/3 total minor league frames in 2016, with 10.5 K/9 against 3.0 BB/9. MLB.com rated him Seattle’s fifth-best prospect, while Baseball America placed him third among the organization’s pre-MLB assets.
A rare Brazilian pitching prospect, Gohara impresses with a mid-nineties heater, promising slider, and still-developing change that give him the promise of a useful three-pitch mix that could work in a starting role at the game’s highest level.
Burrows also checked in on MLB.com’s ranking of the M’s prospects, placing 25th. The collegiate closer is a two-pitch hurler who was taken in the fourth round of the 2016 draft. He showed well at the low-A level in his first taste of professional ball, allowing just seven earned runs with 37 strikeouts against 11 walks over his 24 2/3 innings. The 22-year-old figures to move rather quickly through the system given his collegiate pedigree.
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For the Mariners, Smith represents yet another fleet-footed outfielder. He’s still optionable, and may not have much daylight to crack the MLB roster to start the 2016 season, but could figure as a near-term piece who also comes with five full seasons of control. Smith had been viewed as a key prospect for the Braves, but was somewhat expendable with the team locking up Ender Inciarte for the foreseeable future and fellow youngster Dustin Peterson also rising through the system.
Smith, 23, missed time last year with a thumb injury, but got his first taste of the big leagues in a fairly extended stretch. Over 215 plate appearances, he slashed .238/.316/.365 and swiped 16 bases while drawing strong defensive ratings. He has long been a major stolen-base threat in the minors, and could yet turn into a semi-regular major leaguer if he’s able to drive up his batting average. Smith posted a roughly average .302 BABIP last year, but has traditionally carried much higher marks in the minors thanks to his speed.
The 26-year-old Simmons, meanwhile, comes with four years of remaining control. He has thrown 28 1/3 total major league innings, wrapped around a Tommy John procedure, with a 2.54 ERA and 8.3 K/9 against 3.5 BB/9. The high-octane reliever also showed well at Triple-A in 2016 and has a history of lofty strikeout totals in the minors, though he has also struggled at times with command.
Adding two 40-man players led to the move to bump Martin, a 27-year-old who has seen action in each of the past two major league seasons with three organizations (including the Braves, Athletics, and Mariners). He was hit hard in his first go-round, but posted a 3.86 ERA over 25 2/3 innings last year. Still, Martin managed only 15 strikeouts to go with nine walks while surrendering five long balls in that stretch. He was much better at Triple-A, where he worked mostly as a starter. At the highest level of the minors in 2016, Martin posted a 3.62 ERA with 9.0 K/9 and 2.6 BB/9 across 114 1/3 frames.
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Can dipoto stop making trades please? Pretty please?
Why do you want him to stop ? He’s trying to improve the major league team and depth of the AA and AAA minor league teams and add players who can ascend in the next couple of years.
I have a really bad feeling if the M’s are “contending” in July, either Tyler O’Neil or Kyle Lewis are gone. . Very, very frustrating……
As an A’s fan I want him to stop making trades as well… he is making the team better.
Never thought they would trade Mallex. At least not yet.
Why not? After the Inciarte extension it was pretty obvious Mallex had no place on the team.
Exactly Ryan
That’s not really even close to true. Both of them are excellent defenders at center and left. So both of them could play. At his worst, we could have kept mallex on as the fourth or maybe even fifth OF. He plays great defense and has tremendous speed. We could do way worse. We probably will
The Braves weren’t going to play Mallex in LF. He has no power. Playing him in LF would just be a waste of his talent. His destiny lay in one of two places: playing CF for the Braves or traded.
I don’t know where this myth that Mallex Smith is an “excellent defender” came from. He’s always had problems with his routes and instincts in the outfield; one of the main reasons he was available in trade to the Braves initially. Another reason is that he has not shown much ability to hit for consistent contact.
I like Mallex and wish him all the best, but it’s far from a sure thing that he will play much in the majors.
And even if he does play much in the Majors it would have never been with the Braves with Inciarte locked in as their CF for the foreseeable future.
Not right now, but Markakis is only a short term answer in the outfield. I’m fine with trading Mallex, but would rather have saved him to use in a bigger trade (him being one of many prospects in the trade) eventually for a frontline starter. Trading for more far off pitching prospects was a bad move imo. Especially now that we see the Braves could’ve had Smyly instead.
Always been a fan of Shae Simmons
Until you find out Shae has been sleeping with Tywin.
Nice GoT reference!
I actually know him personally and he’s from my hometown. Incredible person, just got engaged.
This is hard to comprehend. But I guess Mallex just didn’t have a spot and the braves must not believe that Simmons will be 100% again
This is incredibly easy to comprehend – unless you’re trying to explain DiPoto’s decision. The two best players in this trade both moved into the Braves system.
If Seattle holds on to Mallex you may disagree. He has a very high ceiling.
huh? No he doesnt.
Huh? Yes he does. At his very worst, he is an amazing defender with ridiculous speed. That’s his worst possible outcome, and that’s pretty useful
He is a no power, low average, low on base outfielder. What you described would be someone with a high floor. I suggest you learn what a high ceiling means with regards to a prospect before trying to make a smart a ss rebuttal.
that didn’t last long lol but at least Mallex remained on the East Coast
Got pretty thin skin if you think that was a smartass comment, Chester. Wrong use of the phrase? Sure. Smartass though? Sure didn’t look it to me.
He is not an amazing defender, his speed bailed him out on bad breaks he would make off contact.
Well now this is interesting. I liked Mallex but Inciarte blocks him and locating a left fielder to replace Kemp shouldn’t be overly complicated. I like me some pitching
Dang two Braves guys i really liked….for more pitching prospects.
Its true Mallex was blocked by Inciarte but i think he will be plenty valuable for Mariners
Dang. Going to miss seeing gohara with the M’s in a few years.
On the other hand mallex smith is insanely fast and hits left handed. Sort of a young jarrod dyson I suppose. Simmons has had good k rates in the minors and appeared in the majors last year.
Simmons was on track to be just as good as Kimbrel before he had to have TJ surgery. He seems to be healthy, and should be your closer soon. I’m sure you will love him.
I am not sure he will be the closer. We have a 23 yo kid Diaz that throws over 100 mph with a nasty slider that is only going to get better. He jumped from AA last year and after a month was the closer. Simmons would have to be pretty special to beat out Diaz.
I am not sure why Dipoto was so intent on trading Gohara. He is going to be at least a really good 2 or 3 if not a 1 unless of course an injury. Has some good stuff and will move up fast. He tried to trade him for Cozart at the deadline last year which was crazy. This one doesn’t seem as bad but feels like another trade Seattle is on the wrong end of we will see though.
This. I am seeing all this stuff about another trade lining up, but if not I could see the Mariners expecting Dyson to have a good year and command to much in free agency, then plug the hole next year with Smith, who will still be controllable for five years if they option him for even just a little bit this year.
Conversely, I could see them lining up a trade of Martin and his relatively larger salary in order to clear some space to sign a reliever or a big bat (Bautista for 1B or something, something creative..)
If anyone in the Mariners front office is expecting a 32-year-old speed-only player is going to suddenly have a good year, or even more laughably, they’re afraid he’ll cost too much next winter, that person won’t be working in the front office very long.
Wow, now this is one I’m sure no one predicted
I understand… it’s packed in the outfield. Mallex has some growing to do still, and good pitching trumps good hitting… still, bittersweet day for this Braves fan.
Doesnt gohara throw like 100
I’m like Jerry Dipoto, but in fantasy baseball
not to familiar with the two Seattle prospects. anyone have any info on how highly regarded these players are?
Looks like a good trade for the braves. Braves didn’t have room for Mallex and had a lot of other OFs in the pipeline.
As a Braves fan, I’m not too happy with this one. I thought Mallex Smith had potential. And Simmons seemed to have potential as a future closer. Maybe his arm wasn’t what it used to be. Hopefully the Braves are getting quality in return, but it sure seems like they’ve got plenty of young pitchers already, and not many outfield prospects…
Bad deal on the surface. Must really believe in the “large” Brazilian pitcher. Its not good if a guy has to lose 30 pounds to get in shape as a 19 yr old
Mallex does have potential. But as long as Inciarte is in town he would never get regular playing time with the Braves
But you dont want sell low just because of that reason. Braves scoust might really like these guys so its hard to judge prospects trades
Mariners going for an 8 man defense of all center fielders. Can’t say it won’t work until you try it!
Reds almost acquired Luiz Gohara in a trade for Zack Cozart at least year’s trade deadline, but ran out of time. I wish they had pulled it off! Although boy would that’ve altered the Mariners’ plans since… they wouldn’t have Jean Segura, and perhaps might not have the pieces left to acquire Mallex Smith.
Heck, give it time. The way Dipoto trades he’sll require Gohara next week and ship him to Cincinnati for Cozart. It’s kind of fun watching Dipoto. He reminds me of “Trader Jack” McKeon during McKeon’s days with the Padres. I hope Dipoto does well out there.
Really sad to see Simmons go, I thought he had a chance to be our next closer, but Burrows seems to be just as talented but from the left side. As for Mallex, he wasn’t gonna get a chance to play much with us, hopefully he’ll get his opportunity with Seattle, but they also just traded for Dyson and they’re both very similar players.
I don’t really know anything about Smith or Simmons, can someone fill me in?
How many CFs does Seattle need???
12 i believe is their comfort zone
Interesting deal. M’s adding a quality bullpen arm to help them win now before their window closes, Braves adding two young live arms for the future. Both teams are doing what they need to do.
Loading up on even more pitching prospects? I see a top of the line starter trade on the horizon…
dumb move i think its the dumbest i have seen and i lived through the wren years I don’t understand this trade I have a feeling its gonna bite them in the a** on this one Mallex is a lead off hitter something that the Braves havent had since Furcal
Bruh, everyone on this planet knew Mallex’s days with the Braves were numbered after they extended Inciarte.
why, cause he runs fast? You actually have to get on.
The Braves already have Inciarte leading off. The prospects allow for Coppy and Co. To package someone like Newcombe for either a starter or a bat.
You’re not supposed to understand theethod to their madness. They have yet to let you down.
“they have yet to let you down” didn’t they trade simmons for newcombe and some stuff? And I could be wrong but wasn’t “Coppy and Co.” the ones who traded for Olivera? Or was that Wren?
Why would we be disappointed about trading a SS we don’t need for a top-tier pitching prospect? The Olivera deal was Coppolella and Hart, but they did a nice job getting rid of him when the $*@% hit the fan.
Hahaha the “wren years”. How old are you?
Probably not old enough to remember pre dynasty years.
You don’t know the Braves farm very well. Before this trade, you had Smith, a lead off type hitter, Ozzie Albies, another lead off type, and Ended Inciarte, a lead off type hitter. That’s to many lead off hitters coming up pretty close to each other.
Ncbravesfan2016, it looks like the braves are intent on slotting Inciarte in the leadoff spot until they find someone who is better. Most likely it won’t be too long (year or so) before Albies is the every day leadoff hitter (of course they could end up dealing him as well).
Any chance this deal was made by either or both teams in an attempt to offer a better package for a big name pitcher?
Seeing as DiP is trying to flip Mallex as I type this, yes. Wouldn’t surprise me to see Gohara end up with Newcomb and another big arm in a trade for a 3B or C.
Braves fan and don’t like it at all. Unnecessary.
Still trying to gather surplus to acquire Quintana or Archer? Neither team was interested in Mallex so we had to round up more pitching depth? As a Braves fan, I can’t help but feel that we are still aiming for a Spring Time blockbuster like years past, but this time trying to bring in the stars instead of shipping them out.
i can see that happening. Both the Sox and Rays want pitching back and that’s one way to get more so a deal can be done. Mallex is a good player but just blocked by Inciarte but i still just didnt see him being a legit big time ball player for years to come. Good move i think
Crasnick reporting that another trade is incoming. We’ll see what Dipoto has up his sleeves next
Can’t wait.
Not a bad trade for the Braves. Trade two expendable pieces to further fortify a system already deep with young arms or gear up for a blockbuster trade for Archer or Quintana. Mallex and Simmons should help the Mariners in the near future.
The Mariners might be stockpiling outfielders for a trade. The Rays don’t really need pitching, so the M’s could be putting together an outfield prospect package to pick up Drew Smyly
So did Braves just open up for a Frenchy and KJ reunion? Doubt they are going big for Q or Archer.
Probably right
Are all Braves fans everywhere ignorant about baseball, or just the ones who post here? This is such a clear and massive win if a trade. They gave up a future 5th outfielder and interchangeable reliever for a guy with the arsenal to be a front of the rotation stud – and got a similarly interchangeable reliever with better stuff and not requiring a spot on the 40-man to boot. This is like the absurd whining you all were doing about “giving up” Jenkins last month.
I agree, I think it’s natural to overvalue your players, but it’s not like Mallex was gonna be a perennial allstar. Coppy made a good trade here and it’s probably a precursor to another trade.
I don’t believe I’m ignorant about baseball…however I disagree with your assessment of Mallex. That said, you could certainly be correct that he only evolves into a 5th OF. The allure of speed in today’s game paired with a potential high end baserunner makes him enticing at the top of the order and an 8 hole hitter in the interim.
Its just another trade for pitching prospects that the fan base is getting tired of hearing about. Maybe if there was some success coming from them but someone like Newcomb who is stuck in neutral doesnt win fan support. Gohara has to lose 30 pounds as a 19 yr old worries me but the Braves scouts must like him
Don’t lump me in with those morons.
Can I be one of those morons? I like to set the bar low in life.
While I hate to see both Mallex and Shae Simmons leave, I realize that Gohara at least has serious upside (of course whether he obtains it is another thing altogether). I can’t help but think though, that there is more to this trade that initially meets the eye. We’ve already heard rumors of another possible deal from the Mariners, but I also think it is notable that the Braves just opened up two more 40 man roster spots.
To sign Kelly Johnson and Frenchy.
AddisonStreet, while I’d admittedly love to see another reunion with KJ, I absolutely abhor the idea of adding Frenchy once again. There are other options to fill right hitter off the bench who should produce more and at the same time be more versatile.
Here comes Braves fans saying that these prospects are god-like
Every time i see a random Braves trade like this, i yell, “WHAT, WTF, WHY?”
Coppy doesn’t really know what he wants apparently. He keeps pretending with his PR statements that he wants the Braves to contend, then trades a back up outfielder, in a team lacking good outfield depth, and a proven reliever once thought to be the future Kimbrel. Now I’m not saying he will be, but you have proven assets. Keep them.. Stop trading for more prospects.
My first reaction was one of disappointment, because I really like Mallex and I kinda figure Simmons to be a solid setup man in the coming years, but I can’t say this is a bad trade. I like the upside of both of the pitchers acquired.
Pretty much an admission by the Braves that their plan needs four more years. OR, why not trade for Drew Smyly themselves.
Because we do not need a middle of the rotation guy. This is a good trade mallex’s peak value was up the middle which he will never play as long as ender is a brave. It’s not like Simmons was a top end relief pitcher. Keep building the farm system as well as add at the major league club. This will allow is to be competitive not only in the near future but continuing to sustain success further down the road. Our farm system is loaded with talent and we can afford to use some of the farm to get a arm like archer gray or Quintana and still maintain a top end farm system. As a braves fan I think coppy is doing a great job. Some people just can’t see that especially braves fans on here
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Nice to see fans are buying into this rebuild. A good farm system is great reassurance for the fans. It will be a miracle if more than 2 of these guys in their farm are any where close to stardom.
If 2 prospects become stars and 5-7 become Major League regulars, free agency becomes the tool to patch up the rest. That’s how every great team is built.
What is your plan if you disagree? Trade for the Drew Smyly’s of the world, dole out bloated contracts in a weak market, and hope for a few wild card berths?
I’d far prefer a long term strategy with a pipeline of potential that our coaches at the lowest levels can bring along at the correct pace.
If you can’t see the forest for the trees, then maybe you should trade your Braves hat in for a Nationals hat.
While other teams win championships, we can reassure ourselves that these prospect will pan out and we will be a real championship contender soon. Works all the time right? The point is there is only so many prospects that you need. I do believe and hope this is a pre cursor to a trade soon for Archer or like.
Oh I get it now. You want a win-now team and have no foresight. I will proceed accordingly.
Driving home from work I hated this deal but now after researching I am better with it. Although I think if Mallex was on the trading block that the Blue Jays woulda made a push and we woulda been able to get Reece McGuire as a centerpiece coming back.
I mean Mallex drew rave reviews on his defense so
The Braves got some much needed pitching prospects. I was getting worried after all of the pitchers the Braves moved during the off-season!
Yeah, when was the last time Pitching was the cornerstone to a consistent and strong product in Atlanta?
Doesn’t seem enough for the potential of Gohara. Seattle must think Smith is ready to contribute now, and they need a bat after trading their other Smith.
Smith got traded again he is on the rays