To set the stage for the remainder of the offseason, we’ll take a look at the most pressing remaining needs of every team in baseball over the coming week or so, division by division. (Hat tip to MLBTR commenter mike156 for the idea.) We often discuss things through the lens of an organization’s trajectory; thus, a rebuilding team might “need” to move some salary, while a contender might “need” an expensive starter. But with camp in sight, every club is making final calls on who’ll compete for big league jobs in the season to come (while also pursuing broader opportunities), so the focus here is on specific positions on the MLB roster. Fortunately, the task of roster analysis is made much easier by the MLB depth charts available at RosterResource.com. Each team listed below is linked to its respective depth chart, so you can take a look for yourself.
In the first two editions of this series, Jeff Todd broke down the NL West and Mark Polishuk examined the AL East. Now a look at where the NL East’s five teams stand as the calendar flips:
- Bullpen: With Mark Melancon gone, the Nationals are currently projected to rely on Shawn Kelley (11 career saves) as their closer. Based on his output the past couple seasons, Kelley is worthy of the role, but there are durability concerns with the soon-to-be 33-year-old. Kelley has never thrown more than the 58 frames he tossed last season; more alarmingly, he’s a two-time Tommy John surgery recipient who, per a study done by MLBTR contributor Bradley Woodrum, comes with an elevated risk to eventually need another procedure. Even without Kelley’s injury history, acquiring relief help is in order. Washington got a combined 242 2/3 innings last season from Melancon, Yusmeiro Petit, Felipe Rivero, Matt Belisle, Jonathan Papelbon, Reynaldo Lopez and Marc Rzepczynski. Not a single one of them is a member of the organization anymore. Therefore, it would make sense to add at least one more veteran to the likes of Kelley, Blake Treinen, Sammy Solis and Oliver Perez. The club already tried to re-sign Melancon and reel in Kenley Jansen, but those attempts failed. Even with those two off the board, free agency is hardly bereft of options. In the event Washington decides to stick with in-house choices, it has a couple intriguing youngsters in Koda Glover and Trevor Gott.
- Infield Depth: The Nationals’ infield depth took a hit with the loss of Danny Espinosa, and current free agent Stephen Drew could also be in another uniform next season. Either re-upping Drew, which is a possibility, or signing another veteran would give the team more proven insurance than Wilmer Difo (77 career plate appearances) behind second baseman Daniel Murphy, shortstop Trea Turner and third baseman Anthony Rendon. Murphy is capable of playing first base if Ryan Zimmerman endures another poor year or suffers an injury in 2017, but that would leave the team wanting at the keystone.
- Rotation Depth: In trading Lopez and Lucas Giolito to the White Sox for outfielder Adam Eaton, the Nats subtracted some of their starting pitching depth. That’s somewhat concerning given that starters Stephen Strasburg and Joe Ross are coming off injury-plagued years, which perhaps increases the need to add rotation insurance behind those two, Max Scherzer, Tanner Roark and Gio Gonzalez. A.J. Cole and Austin Voth might suffice thereafter, but there’s very little of intrigue beyond them (Double-A prospect Erick Fedde could crack the major leagues sometime next season, granted). The Nationals had an established veteran starter in camp last year in Bronson Arroyo, who ended up missing 2016 because of injuries, and could look for a similar depth option prior to next season.
- Outfield: There are only two corner outfield spots, yet the Mets arguably have four starting-caliber players on hand in Yoenis Cespedes, Curtis Granderson, Michael Conforto and Jay Bruce. Cespedes isn’t going anywhere, obviously, and Conforto’s place on the roster appears secure. The writing is on the wall, then, for either Granderson or Bruce (very likely the latter) to exit the organization via trade by next season. The Mets have been reluctant to deal Bruce without getting anything useful in return, but they might have to settle for dumping his salary in order to clear their corner outfield logjam and free up spending room. In doing so, New York would still face uncertainty in center field. Juan Lagares has fallen off since a strong 2014 showing that led the Mets to sign him to a four-year extension with $23MM in guarantees. Cespedes and Granderson also have experience in center, but neither is an ideal fit there. The Pirates’ Andrew McCutchen has come up as a trade possibility, but he was a defensive nightmare last season and the Mets aren’t actively looking to acquire him (or any other center fielder), anyway.
- Right-Handed Reliever: The Mets are going to lose closer Jeurys Familia to at least a month-long suspension, which will leave the team with Addison Reed and Hansel Robles as its go-to choices to preserve late leads. Mindful of that, general manager Sandy Alderson has checked in on the likes of Wade Davis (before the Royals traded him to the Cubs), Brad Brach (Orioles) and Alex Colome (Rays) on the trade front this winter, but nothing has materialized. White Sox closer David Robertson represents another possible acquisition, though he’d be a costly pickup. There are still appealing names on the open market, where Greg Holland, Joe Blanton, Sergio Romo, Santiago Casilla, Neftali Feliz and 2016 Met Fernando Salas are among those without contracts.
- Left-Handed Reliever: New York has three lefty relievers on its projected 25-man roster in Josh Edgin, Josh Smoker and Sean Gilmartin, but none had encouraging 2016 campaigns (in fairness to Edgin, he was on the rebound from 2015 Tommy John surgery and finished the year well). Jerry Blevins was terrific last season, but he’s now a free agent and, along with Boone Logan, one of the top two southpaw setup men left in free agency. The Mets have shown interest in each this offseason, but payroll limitations have prevented them from signing either (presumably, they’ve also stood in the way of securing right-handed help).
- Starting Pitcher: Forced to forge ahead without the late, great Jose Fernandez, the Marlins have made a couple unexciting additions to their rotation this winter with the signings of Edinson Volquez and Jeff Locke. They now have a full starting five on paper with those two joining Wei-Yin Chen, Adam Conley and Tom Koehler, but it’s not the most confidence-inspiring group. With that in mind, Miami is still in the market for a starter, though it’s seemingly limiting itself to low-cost depth types. Luckily for the Marlins, there are plenty of those left in free agency.
- First Base: As long as they’re facing a right-handed pitcher, the Marlins are in fine shape at first base with Justin Bour. But, in an admittedly small sample size of 110 major league plate appearances, the lefty-swinging Bour has struggled mightily against southpaw hurlers (.223/.273/.291, no home runs). Thus, it would behoove the Fish to find a better platoon partner for Bour than the penciled-in Miguel Rojas – although a righty, he has posted a woeful .184/.225/.272 line versus lefties in 122 PAs. Any of Dae-ho Lee, Mark Reynolds, Trevor Plouffe, Adam Rosales or 2016 Marlin Chris Johnson could be realistic targets via free agency. Miami hasn’t closed the door on re-signing Johnson, who – despite a subpar 2016 – has historically held his own against lefties.
- Left-Handed Reliever: It’s not a must for the Marlins to find a southpaw reliever, as their most prominent righty options – A.J. Ramos, Brad Ziegler, David Phelps, Kyle Barraclough and Junichi Tazawa – are capable of getting all hitters out. Nevertheless, it would be nice for the club to have more than one left-handed reliever on its 40-man roster. As of now, only Hunter Cervenka is in the fold, though same-sided batters hit a paltry .198/.306/.318 against the then-rookie last season. Signing a free agent like Javier Lopez could make sense; even though the longtime Giant’s coming off a season to forget, he has a lengthy track record of success preventing runs and would like to remain close to his Georgia home.
- Third Base: Their interest in Brian Dozier notwithstanding, the Braves appear to have a respectable offensive platoon lined up at second base with Jace Peterson and Sean Rodriguez. On the other side of the diamond, finding a complement to right-handed-hitting third baseman Adonis Garcia would be beneficial. Garcia has hit an underwhelming .262/.293/.407 in 152 trips to the plate against righties, while reserve Chase d’Arnaud (also a righty) hasn’t done any better (.218/.278/.278 in 279 PAs). Free agent Luis Valbuena is a potential fit, but he’s an upgrade over Garcia in general and would warrant an everyday role. Otherwise, the aforementioned Stephen Drew – a left-handed hitter and Georgia native – could be a reasonable free agent target to pair with Garcia.
- Bullpen: As it stands, the Braves’ sole 30-something reliever is closer Jim Johnson, with Arodys Vizcaino and Ian Krol serving as only semi-established options. While it’s quite possible the Braves are comfortable with a mostly young bullpen that will also include Mauricio Cabrera and Jose Ramirez, among others, signing one of the many available veterans on a short-term deal would have a chance to pay dividends over the long haul. For example, the Braves could take a similar approach to last year’s Padres, who bought low on Fernando Rodney, got a few good months out of him and flipped him for a prospect prior to the trade deadline. That’s assuming the Braves aren’t contenders next year, of course.
- Catcher: With Tyler Flowers and Anthony Recker in the equation, this arguably isn’t a pressing short-term need for a rebuilding club, but free agent backstop Matt Wieters is nonetheless on Atlanta’s radar. It’s debatable how much of an upgrade (if at all) the ex-Georgia Tech star would be over Flowers, though. Wieters, unlike Flowers, is not a well-regarded pitch framer, and the longtime Oriole is coming off one of his worst offensive seasons. If Atlanta doesn’t land the switch-hitting Wieters, it’ll likely be content to roll with Flowers and Recker next season.
- Corner Outfield: The Phillies’ most proven corner outfield bat belongs to Howie Kendrick, who has played 1,100 games at second base compared to just 114 in left field and is coming off a below-average offensive year. While the rebuilding club could simply utilize Kendrick and younger players like Roman Quinn, Aaron Altherr and Tyler Goeddel (the latter two were dreadful in 2016) next season, dipping into free agency for another outfielder remains a possibility. If general manager Matt Klentak does sign anyone, odds are it’ll be a left-handed hitter. Of the previously mentioned four, only the switch-hitting Quinn is capable of batting from the left side.
- Bullpen: Klentak has revealed he’s looking for more relief help, though he has already been busy on that front throughout the offseason. Philadelphia has acquired three stopgaps in Joaquin Benoit, Pat Neshek and Sean Burnett (on a minor league deal), but its projected major league bullpen could stand to make improvements beyond Benoit, Neshek, Hector Neris and Jeanmar Gomez.
- Left-Handed Starter: The Phillies’ starting five at the moment features nothing but right-handers, and Adam Morgan is their only Triple-A starter who’s a southpaw. Perhaps it would be logical to sign a swingman like Travis Wood, who could initially work out of the bullpen (joining fellow lefty Joely Rodriguez) and then potentially factor into the rotation if someone suffers an injury or underperforms.
jjdunckley
As a Braves fan, with those types of options available, I hope the 3 Johns decide to just go with what we have. Do not touch Weiters, unless he will sign a modest 1 year contract. Roll the dice that you can compete for Lucroy next year. And we already have a team full of Stephen Drew types so there is no reason to get another. Most say that the Braves are still a full year from contention so why not see if these guys can play as well as they finished last season, with a few new faces already added, and if it looks like they can sneak into the wildcard, see who can be had at the trade deadline. They can do a lot of better offseason shopping next year, don’t make moves for the sake of making them, continue building for next year or beyond.
ffjsisk
If Bartolo has another good year in him I kind of agree about the braves contending. Teheran and Folty will be better and we’ve got Jaime and Dickey to eat innings. Hopefully at least one of the young guys surprise and contribute to the rotation. Minter will surprise in the pen this year, no doubt. I disagree about Weiters though. He still is a .250 career hitter with 20 homers over a healthy season. I think we’re getting carried away with pitch framing. Flowers had a career year, he’s still nothing more than a backup IMO.
bravesfan88
Yes, Flowers is most likely a back-up, on most, if not all, teams that aspire to make the playoffs, excluding maybe Washington..However, the Braves are not expected to make the playoffs nor really contend this season; therefore, I think they’ll be fine with Flowers and Recker.
I’d only add Wieters on a 1 year deal, with a team option for a 2nd season. That way they can make a play for Lucroy next off-season, when they are TRULY expected to compete for the playoffs.
I strongly disagree with the article about their need for another bullpen arm. While they may not be very “experienced,” they are certainly very talented and they do have plenty of depth to choose from..
Discounting the guys in the lower levels of their MiL’s, arguably they already have several guys that could compete for a spot in their pen.
Johnson
Vizcaino
Paco Rodriguez
Mauricio Cabrera
Ian Krol
Josh Collmenter
Jose Ramirez
Chaz Roe
Jason Hursh
Daniel Winkler
Luke Jackson
Armando Rivero
Jason Hursh
**Future Closer** AJ Minter
Akeel Morris
Bradley Roney
Caleb Dirks
And I’m sure I’m honestly probably forgetting about 2 or 3 legit candidates that could really help out in their bullpen next year. The Braves bullpen will be a strength from this season and especially moving forward. They have the best bullpen in the division, and their bullpen should not only keep them in games, but it will win them some games as well next year…
Thegreatandpowerfulsimba
Shae simmons- kimbrelesque numbers and right there with Minter in my eyes. Higher more consistent strike out numbers than minter. Beware of cabrerra and Ramirez- commanding 100 mph heat is rarely sustainable… Especially with their poor milb track records. The JJ signing was not necessary- i look for him to be traded before the allstar break. Walden should return to form and take a bp spot out of spring training. Add our Swingman/rule 5/kroll and 3 catchers… We are beyond over our limit.
Simmons
Minter
Vizzy
JJ
Walden
Cabrerra
Ramirez
Kroll
Swingman/Collmenter
Jackson
Rule 5
Good problem to have
floridapinstripes
As a Yankee fan I will say I think they have a shot at getting Lucroy. That being said I think it depends on how much they let their kids pitch. I think Lucroy wants to win. I question why they picked up 3 pitchers although I do understand that Garcia is a risk for injury.
Logan10braves
I think in order for them to trade for Lucroy, they’re going to have some optimism that an extension will take place.
RunDMC
No one is trading for Lucroy. He’s in the last year of his deal and it would make no sense for ATL to get rid of many parts to TEX unless they are truly contending in 2017 — not likely. Just wait 1 year and the most you might have to give up is a top pick (if TEX inevitably makes him a QO that he rejects) — unless ATL has another protected pick.
southi
I don’t think anyone was suggesting any team trading for Lucroy. Unless he signs an extension, Lucroy will be a free agent after the 2017 season. A lot of Braves fans have mentioned they’d like the team to pursue Lucroy when he becomes a free agent at the end of the season.
floridapinstripes
Yea trading for Lucroy would be silly. The only one team that could of done it is Houston and they already got BMac
dave1775
No more picks starting next year . Picks will no longer be attached to free agents. Pay attention
blueagleace1
Yes they will, just not first round picks.
dave1775
Obviously I meant first round picks douchebag
Connorsoxfan
It wasn’t obvious actually…
dave1775
Actually it was a hole
R.D.
“Dave was a people person”
bravesfan88
The Braves used something like 16 or 17 different starting pitchers last year, which forced alot of young starters into positions that they were not all fully prepared for.
All these new guys are basically on one year deals, and their thinking is that they can fairly contend with these guys now for the new stadium, and allow guys like Wisler, Blair, Newcomb, Sims, Fried, and Weigel to all make their final adjustments and prepare them for their opportunities next year.
Or if the deem the closer guys as being ready, like Wisler, Blair, Newcomb, and Sims, then they can trade away Colon, Dickey, Collmenter, and Garcia around the deadline and bring up their guys from AAA…
This plan allows for several different outcomes, instead of the Braves putting their eggs all into one basket..Which, I think personally it was a great strategy for them moving forward.
antonio bananas
lucroy in 2017 is a catcher heading into his age 32 season. do you really want 16-20M locked up per year for a catcher’s (any catchers) age 32-35 years? i dont.
jd396
Now if someone comes on here whining about how they don’t want articles like this, I’m gonna lose it…
This wins the Most Responsive Editors Ever Award. MLBTR is the best!
Gogerty
Agreed, love these latest pieces. I know not at lot of FA news coming, but they have filled the void.
floridapinstripes
Absolutely. This is what fans do during the off season. They figure out their teams weaknesses and try and figure out the best way to go about filling them the best they can.
Allowing the fans a public way to talk amongst themselves after it being brought to the light is all you can ask for.
Thank you MLB trade Rumors.
bravesfan88
I completely agree…Finally, there are some appreciative fans on here, instead of people solely coming on here to do nothing but whine and complain…
I definitely appreciate all the columnist, writers, and bloggers that post for MLBTRs, but also a tip of the hat goes to you guys for taking the time to voice your appreciation..Well done fellow fans, job well done and Happy New Year to everyone as well!!
renegadescoach
The Phillies don’t need a LH starter. Right now in their rebuild, it doesn’t matter what side their SP throw from. They are just looking to develop 5 reliable pitchers.
cfletcher86
The Braves in most mock drafts are projected to take JJ Schwarz from florida, he’s a solid catcher and can hit good. I hope they stick with what they got and not overpay on someone
RunDMC
I’ve watched mock drafts for the awhile and it’s been a long time seeing them connected to Schwarz for a reason. He had an unimpressive year hitting. For ex, MLB.com (Jim Callis, Jon Mayo) recently did a mock draft with ATL taking high school SS/OF Royce Lewis (Callis) or Vandy RHP Kyle Wright (Mayo) – who has the stuff to go #1 overall. Oregon State C K.J. Harrison is another possible fit if he gets by some, but he’s been hitting D-1 ball for awhile now, so many teams know about him.
bravesfan88
Schwarz definitely has quite a bit of work to do after his unimpressive season last year, IF he wants to get drafted that high by the Braves…
I’m not saying it’s impossible, but as things stand right now, it is definitely not very likely. He still has plenty of time though, as the supposed “top boards” of scouts and talent evaluators can change quite a bit from now up until draft day…
RunDMC
Yes, I keep forgetting about this upcoming college season before the Draft. That being said, it’s very risky to be taking a catcher as a top pick. Some turn out well (Varitek, Posey, Wieters (kind of), Charles Johnson), but recently not so much.
chesteraarthur
I think you are correct in calling Weiters a good outcome. He had some pretty good seasons and it’s damn near impossible to predict injuries to a player. Wieters put up almost 18 WAR for baltimore – if you told a team they’d get that from their top pick, they’d probably take it.
I think a lot of the problems around highly drafted catchers recently, is that many of them are not actually catchers.
antonio bananas
there is an entire college season between now and june.
i say see if the Indians would take Markakis/Kemp+more for their catching prospect Mejia.
prich
What a ridiculous deal. First of all, the Indians can’t afford anymore payroll. Why do the braves neeed a catcher who hit single A pitching? He won’t hit the majors until loud 2018 at the earliest. You got to see this deal from both sides.
KIBM
that’s just too bad, I knew that the only other team in the national league that would even try to get Kenley Jansen (besides the Dodgers) was the Nationals and it would of been perfect for them too but NNNOOO they hesitated, now he’s gone, and they can’t seen to find a closer.
RunDMC
Pap is still available….lol
saat@2842
I think the braves should sign Weiters”only if he wants to play in Atlanta” because I think also he will hit around .265-.270 and hit between 15and 20 homers and possibility drive in 70-75 runs. I think he’ll have a career year
floridapinstripes
Braves need a 3B.
Headley for Wentz.
If you disagree please don’t go crazy. Give me a counter offer and rational reasoning please.
RunDMC
I think they really want to see a full year from Adonis with some combo of Sean Rodriguez. Wentz was the main get for their strategy of getting Ian Anderson, Wentz and Fuller. He was going to go for over-slot value, but they had the savings from Anderson to be able to get him. Though Anderson/Fuller could be better, Wentz looks absolutely filthy.
I don’t think they will be surrendering him for a short-term piece like Headley.
bravesfan88
Not to be that guy, but I think by Fuller you mean Muller..
But, I completely agree with your reasoning, as to why they will not and would not trade any of those guys for someone like Headley.
With the savings the Braves got from drafting and signing Anderson, NOT ONLY were they able to also get Wentz and Muller, let us also not forget they were able to draft Bryse Wilson as well…And so far so good for Wilson, as he definitely impressed in his small sample size showing for his professional debut..Wilson is a solid two-pitch pitcher, that if he can figure out a 3rd pitch, he could definitely end up being a solid middle of the rotation guy..If not, then he will most likely end up as a solid late inning reliever or possible closer…
southi
Basically you don’t have to trade anyone for Headley. Luis Valbuena is a free agent and has actually posted a higher WAR over the last 3 seasons than Headley has (6.3 for Valbuena compared to 5.8 bwar for Headley). Why give up a talent like Wentz (or anyone else for that matter) when you can sign a similar type player who is younger on the free agent market?
TBH I’ve wanted the Braves to try to sign Valbuena since he became available. In my mind he’d be the starting thirdbaseman, you could use Garcia (if he makes the team) against the tougher left handers. This would enable Rio Ruiz to get some more time in the minors and giver Travis Demeritte more time to develop. I wouldn’t mind for them to sign Valbuena to a two year deal. They could always trade him if Ruiz or Demeritte are tearing up the minors.
RunDMC
For Travis Demeritte to develop as a 3B…….I’d love that considering his range. Not sure about his arm strength, but he’s excelled at 2B since coming over.
southi
TBH Run, from my understanding Demeritte was originally a thirdbaseman in the Rangers organization before they moved him to secondbase. Supposedly from what I’ve read it wasn’t because of lack of arm strength (supposedly he has a grade 60 arm as well) but because the Rangers already had Beltre and Gallo in the organization. There might be some truth to that because his first season Demeritte played 14 games at third (of course he also played 22 at SS). Demeritte has 30 games total at third in the minors (26 starting). Most of the reviews I’ve read on him since he came to the Braves (including reports from the Arizona Fall League) imply that he has developed better as a defender than almost everyone originally thought he would. Great range and sure hands as you suggested. The swing and miss as well as pitch recognition is more of an issue.
c
I think you’re mostly right in regards to his defense. I think arm accuracy was an issue, though. Some wild throws, but that happens quite a bit with younger players. May have just been really blocked.
-C
bravesfan88
Demeritte was for the most part blocked in the Rangers system. It would be interesting to find out if he could handle 3B. Reviews of his 2B work, during the AFL were really suprising, for me anyways..
From the AFL, Demeritte, had absolutely GREAT reviews defensively..Even so though, I think the Braves really want him to focus on hitting rather than a position switch at this point in TD’s progession…If he can cut down on the strikeouts then he has all the tools to be a very successful first division starting second baseman, although right now that’s a pretty big IF..
This is a pivotal year for TD, and with a good season he really should rocket up prospect lists. Right now some scouts are comparing him to a young Alfonso Soriano, with just a little less power, but better defense. If that’s the case, then TD will have definitely been a HUGE STEAL for Coppy and Company, especially considering they got him for Dario Alvarez and Lucas Harrell!!! lol
floridapinstripes
That not a bad alternative but Valbuena isn’t a good fielder and is horrible versus lefty’s.
c
At the same time, Headley’s been a below-average hitter the past two seasons. The power has been sapped, when the belief was that moving out of Petco would move the needle in the other direction. At 2/$26M remaining (with another $3M being hidden in PA bonuses and a trade assignment bonus), being 33 and struggling to match his slugging prowess of the past, he’s not all that attractive.
There’s a little excess value in the contract, especially if he can find a way to bounce back offensively, but he’s not worth a premium draft pick player anymore. If I were the Braves, I’d probably counter with one of the young pitchers that has lost his shine, Blair or maybe Wisler. As long as Valbuena’s also available, Headley’s just another alternative…you’re just not going to see anyone drop huge prospect capital to acquire him.
-C
floridapinstripes
I’d counter with Muller and eat 4-5 mill a year.
floridapinstripes
Headley has much more power from the Left side which would platoon right good with Garcia if that is your main concern .
c
I think the main concern in that scenario would be giving up Muller for someone you consider a platoon player.
-C
floridapinstripes
I don’t. You do. I honestly don’t mind Headley. He’s got a great glove and can switch hit. He has a good OBP. He came back strong after having a slow first month. He’s a great back up first basemen which we can use.
The main issue is the contract and getting younger. To do that we would have to pay off some salary to get a prospect.
bravesfan88
At this point in Headley’s career, I’d say even trading away Blair or Wisler would be offering too much, especially if it is Blair.
Several people have soured on Blair, but he was dealing with injuries and trying to make a couple of mechanical changes on the fly..We, as Braves fans, should definitely give him another year to try and figure things out…but that’s just my opinion really…
I haven’t made a counter offer for the Headley deal, simply because if I’m the Braves I really don’t want him right now. I want to see what I have in Garcia for another full season, and also I want to see what Rio Ruiz can do at the major league level..
I’m not saying the Braves would scoff at making an upgrade at 3B, but I am saying I don’t think Headley would be seen as enough of an upgrade to give up any value for, much less to also take on any more unnecessary salary
floridapinstripes
That’s fair I’m just trying to get an idea of what fans seem is right. I consider that most fans over value prospects and take it with a grain of salt and find someone in between and shoot a little higher. I also respect that the Braves are rebuilding like the Yanks so we both would rather sign a FA instead of a trade.
antonio bananas
hence why you platoon valbuena.
if you have a guy who hits .300 vs lefties but .100 vs righties. but you have another guy who hits .300 against righties but .100 against lefties, you platoon them.
then your “3B” (the two combined) hit .300.
ibackthapack
Braves don’t want Headley… not going to give up a high upside 2nd round pick for someone whose not much better than garcia or rodriguez… I’d rather sign valbuena to a 1 year deal and not give anything up.
antonio bananas
just sign valbuena and platoon him until Ruiz comes up
jd396
Shawn Kelley currently has an 18 K/9 rate in my OOTP game.
floridapinstripes
Gardner( & 10 mill), Clipprard for Eshelman and Tirado.
BillGiles
Horrible deal for the Phillies. Why would they want Gardner? Clippard offers nothing either
prich
Tirado is off limits. The guy was a beast last year out of the rotation. Gardner may not be any better than roman Quinn is right now.
reflect
Familia isn’t getting suspended, his case was expunged.
RunDMC
You mean just like Jose Reyes getting suspended for 51 games when his case was dismissed, or like Chapman suspended for 30 games without ever being charged?
reflect
Their cases weren’t expunged. That’s a very different situation. Expungement is a court declaration of innocence. It almost never happens.
Dismissed just means not enough evidence.
Chefno2
So Sponge-Worthy is not part of the case….
saat@2842
the braves need a left handed bat coming off bench. do they know Brandon Moss is out there and he’s from Ga.
bravesfan88
Usually I don’t agree with many suggestions on here for additions to the Braves, but I actually see B.Moss as potentially a pretty solid fit for the Braves…
They could really use a power bat off the bench, and he would fit that mold. Also, they could afford that luxury since they have guys like Garcia, Rodriguez, and Jace Peterson as guys that can play multiple positions..B.Moss could be used as their primary pinch hitter, and as a back-up 1st baseman..
Seems like a solid move, in my opinion, but only on a 1-year deal..Maybe 2 years, if it is a team option.
davidcoonce74
Familia will indeed be suspended. Regardless of the dismissal/expungement. There was still evidence – the scratches on her chest, the marks on her face, the knives on the floor – and MLB will review that evidence. Just because she wouldn’t cooperate with the case means MLB has to abide by that. I hope his suspension is at least the length of Reyes’ but he’ll get at least 30 days.
reflect
She did cooperate. That’s not what expungement means. Again you’re thinking it means they couldn’t convict.
It’s not a synonym for dismissal or dropped charges. It’s not even similar to those.
They reviewed the evidence and declared him irrevocably innocent.
davidcoonce74
No, they couldn’t bring the case to trial without her cooperation. Sadly, this happens often in DV cases, especially when the victim is financially dependednt on the abuser.
The expungement was at the request of his lawyer, possibly to keep him from the possibility of being deported.
Regardless, Familia needs serious help and also needs a serious suspension. He’ll get one for sure.
metseventually 2
He’s definitely getting suspended, but not one that’ll keep him off a playoff roster.
prich
I hope he is suspended and I think the good majority of people do as well. The MLB has shown that it will not tolerate domestic violence and will probably give him some sort of suspension.
rgreen
No more starters for the Phillies,unless we can get Quintana.and even though our lineup is likely to be heavy to the right side,I’m hoping we only go for someone with position flexibility.I’m hoping for Moss,with Coghlan as a backup plan.By the end of the year we should have Crawford and either Quinn or N.Williams added to the lineup,if not all 3.for a lefty reliever,I’m hoping for another bounce back option like Burnett.I’m hoping for 1,or maybe 2 out of F.Morales,C.Ramos,R.Detwiler or B.Matusz.
brood550
LOL, the Braves have holes in the corner outfield too. When Kemp goes down because of his legs who steps up? Smith isn’t a corner outfield bat.
The Braves won’t make a play at Lucroy next year because their window doesn’t start till 2019 at the earliest. By that time Lucroy will be teetering on 33 years old if he’s available. He doesn’t fit with the rebuild schedule of the Braves. This is the class of FA the Braves will be looking at mlbtraderumors.com/2016/12/2018-19-mlb-free-agents…
This team is a joke and will not compete for the NL East for the foreseeable future as long as the Nats and Mets remain in the division.
floridapinstripes
I agree that the Braves won’t do much the next two years but after that Harper and maybe Murphy will be gone. Werth will be gone, Ramos is bye bye already. Gio from the pitching and it was stupid to get rid of your three best pitching prospects for someone they could of got in the FA market. Also strausburg is always hurt. The braves main competition will be with the Mets. The mets pitchers have armitus so you never know with them.
bravesfan88
Wow, can you tell me tomorrow’s lottery numbers, I mean since you can apparently see the future and all…
With ~10-11 top 100 prospects, emerging talents on the cusp like Swanson, Albies, Minter, Newcomb, Fried, Wiegel, Mallex, and Blair paired with a solid bullpen, and a quality line-up there is no reason to think they will not contend for at least a Wild Card spot come 2018, especially with a huge load of prospects to trade from and money to spend..
By saying the Braves cannot compete for the foreseeable future, and by calling the Braves franchise a joke, your comment just screams of pure ignorance brood…
chesteraarthur
This idea that Sean Newcomb is “on the cusp” is crazy. He’s still walking too many in AA. Unless you mean on the cusp of joining their bullpen. And did Max Fried even pitch above A ball last year?
Acuña Matata
The team is far from a joke but this little tirade of yours is. I expect you to admit you were wrong come All-Star break but children rarely admit to that. So I’ll just take a snap and bring it up to you then.
RunDMC
Rebuild schedule? Nothing goes according to schedule. Honestly, ATL is ahead of any schedule most thought they had, and that’s mainly because of only 1 guy (Swanson) looking like a long-term piece, and piecing together a decent team with savvy contract unloads (i.e. Matt Kemp-Hector Olivera) while not blocking anyone coming up and having money to add guys as we go.
Yes, PHI has a lot of money coming up, and a few nice long-term pieces, MIA looks in a bad position with the most expensive (and oft-injured) MLB player and no pitchers, while WSH is always the bridesmaid never the bride. They’re inevitably going to lose Harper and now have a lot less on the farm by obtaining Eaton. NYM has some great long-term arms, but their offense is always a question mark relying too much on an aging Cespedes and injured Wright. NL East is not the AL East…there’s no runaway team right now and ATL could contend with a couple of things going right, or a couple more savvy moves with the money/prospects they have.
chesteraarthur
Wasn’t their rebuild schedule originally supposed to put a solid product on the field by 2017 for the new stadium?
metseventually 2
I agree 100%. Atlanta fans are falling into the hype about prospects and that players actually want to play there too…here comes a second coming of Pittsburgh!
RunDMC
LOL. Falling into the hype about prospects? Yeah, NY media doesn’t do that at all with any Mets. Braves are a winning franchise playing in a baseball hot bed with new revenue streams in the foreseeable future, a new stadium, smart people at the top that want to win and some long-term pieces already in place. Throw that in with the fact that suburban-Atlanta (specifically Alpharetta) is the offseason homes to many athletes and celebrities and I don’t think you’ll have to overpay people to get them to be a Brave.
brood550
“Braves are a winning franchise playing in a baseball hot bed with new revenue streams in the foreseeable future, a new stadium”
Winning? The last time they made the playoffs Chipper Jones as playing in Atlanta….
New revenue streams and a new stadium? Fans from downtown Atlanta will never be able to make it to games. They have refused multiple attempts to expand MARTA rails to Cobb country to easily facilitate fan movements from Atlanta. mdjonline.com/news/marta-s-expansion-remains-contr…
The new stadium build will actually alienate most downtown Atlanta fans due to the traffic snarls and the vacation that people would need to take to make the first pitch. hardballtimes.com/if-you-build-it-they-will-bottle…
Not to mention the Braves are never a large budget team like the Nats and Mets. They need their prospects. But as for starting pitchers if you remove Teheran they haven’t turned out a quality one since since Kevin Millwood who debuted in 1997. Other than that the only other good pitcher Atlanta has turned out in the stretch is Kimbrel. Betting on Atlanta pitching prospects is funny the last one they turned out before Millwood was Glavine as Smoltz was pretty much already a finished product when he came over from Detroit in the Doyle Alexander trade. Glavine debuted in 1987. Guess the Braves are due for another starting pitcher as they seem to get it right once a decade.
chesteraarthur
These pitching prospects are also mostly 50-55 fv type guys…or middle/back end starters.
prich
Please don’t call the Mets a big payroll team. They bet all their money away years ago and that is why they are poor. They have the biggest market being in NYC and can’t afford a team over a 125 mil or so. Phils got the most money in the division by a large margin.
steelerbravenation
So if you are going to give Smoltz to Detroit then tell me how the Braves don’t get credit for Wainwright or Jason Schmidt in that same stretch you speak of. And don’t forget about Steve Avery in that little stretch run talk. His injuries shouldn’t discredit his dominance. And also part of the Atlanta lore as far as pitching goes was the reclamation projects they had over the years.
brood550
Schmidt was serviceable but didn’t find it till he got to San Francisco. Betting they reworked his delivery a bit to achieve those results.
Wainright threw over 200 innings in AAA with the Cards before coming up. Easy to say he wasn’t a finished product. Smoltz threw 23 starts at AAA for the Braves. Wainright through 41 starts for the Cards. No to mention the fact that Wainright had elbow issues and required a rework of his delivery before he succeeded in St. Luis.
steelerbravenation
You sound crazy also Wainright came into an organization that was a perennial contender and Smoltz stepped into a perennial loser so he had been expected to do more faster. And Schmidt was definitely more than serviceable. And also no opinion on Avery ??? Or how bout Medlan or Beachy injuries shouldn’t disqualify a guy because they were established by that point maybe not so much Beachy but def Medlan was.
And also when you win 14 division titles in a row you are not picking anywhere near the top of the draft. So that right there makes the reclamation projects with success even more important. And how can you say Smoltz was a finished product when they wouldn’t give up Searcy because he was deemed more MLB ready ? But Wainwright spent a season in AAA should work both ways if Atlanta doesn’t get credit for Smoltz then Cards shouldn’t get credit for Wainwright and the Braves should.
brood550
14 division wins because they kept their core intact. Yes, the front office made great decisions during that run. But they traded away a ton to keep the window open and destroyed their farm system in the process. Most of which can never be replicated due to modern day salary constraints. They traded three farmhands that didn’t pan out for McGriff and another 3 for Grissom. Yes, they did develop plenty of hitters(Justice, C. Jones, A. Jones, Klesko) but in today’s game there is no way the Braves could afford to be competitive for very long with today’s salaries. Especially since they just alienated at least half their fan base.
Avery had a three good years. But injuries are part of the game. Yes, you developed a guy. But, did they draft him wrong or fail in developing a pitching motion that wouldn’t injure the pitcher? Either way they messed the pick up.
steelerbravenation
What are you talking about messed up a pick ???? Are you just plain ignorant Avery was a phenom that got hurt if injuries were able to be prevented there would be a lot of guys with a lot better careers. And I did not see anybody say that the Braves success could be duplicated. Any team is lucky if they are able to build a 3-5 yr window in this age. Stop minimizing what the Braves did.
And you think they alienated half their fan base why because they moved to the burbs are you kidding me have you ever been to Atl ??? It’s one of the worst attending sports cities in America always has been unless it’s NASCAR. Please the Braves have not sold out playoff games. Know the economics of baseball before you run your mouth. All the teams payrolls are paid before 1 fan sets foot in a stadium off of tv contracts alone. Not to mention internet and liscencing Baseball makes money hand over fist. All the teams.
antonio bananas
the braves have the best farm in baseball. cubs and royals were once in this position too.
nats farm is toast, stras will be the highest paid reliever over the next 5 years. scherzer is headed into his mid 30s, and harper is gone in 2 years.
brood550
Best farm in baseball became the White Sox after the Sale and Eaton trades.
prich
Braves got a good lineup and they will be ready to play next year. Their management will make them a winning team.
lesterdnightfly
The Jay Bruce trade didn’t fare so well for Alderson and the Mets, did it.
His production tanked and defense was exposed. Now he’s an albatross on the roster, where he stays, because no GM is going to give more than AAAA filler or low-minors prospects.
They might as well release him and eat crow. But I’m betting that pride won’t let them.
prich
By the end of the season you met fans will be praying that the Mets resign Bruce to an extension.
lesterdnightfly
Not Mets fan. As my Unkle Boris says, “Mets are Nyets”.
BTW, Bruce won’t be with the Mets at the end of the season, so how could he sign an extension with them?
raltongo 3
Yea, I think the Howie Kendrick move was a bit premature for the Phillies. We know that they will not realistically compete for the playoffs in 2017, so I understand the short-term commitments they are making to decent bounce-back candidates like Kendrick and Buchholz, but I really thought Kendrick was coming in to play second base with Hernandez being traded. It doesn’t look like that strategy is going to play out, and Howie probably wont be a super bench utility guy, so the last real option is that he is going to stick it out in one of the corner OF spots for as long as he plays at or near replacement level. While this gives us time to see what Alterr/Quinn/and eventually Williams has to offer on the MLB team, the Kendrick deal kinda prevents what I was hoping for all along: a Trumbo deal. I realize the Phillies are rebuilding but I still think bringing in one big slugger, particularly as his market seems a bit lower than had expected, wouldn’t necessarily delay the development of the youngsters because there would still be an open OF spot (had Kendrick not been already in the fold).
BillGiles
Or, CarGo for one year would be nice
chesteraarthur
cargo isn’t good and is expensive.
rgreen
Depends on what it would take to get him.he is what he is,he’s not a bounce back salary dump kinda player.Colorado would probably want atleast a couple decent prospects in return.
DelUnser4ever
I think Williams won’t be seen until September. Zero plate discipline even at the AAA level.
prich
The Phillies have Franco who has no dicipline in the majors already lol. Altherr swings at everything as well. Odubel is sometimes patient and sometimes way over aggressive. You don’t know what you are going to get from these young players.
slimjones92
Odubel’s OBP to end the season was .361, and that was after enduring a hard slump to finish out the season. He’s also shown solid on-base skills skills in the past, including in the minors, so I would have to disagree regarding him.
prich
Definately should have gone for trumbo because he protects the young bats and can hit 50 at Citizens Bank
rgreen
I’d rather keep the long term payroll flexibility then sign Trumbo.yes,he has power.but beyond that he’s a 250 hitter who will strikeout 150+ times.there’s a reason he’s not signed yet.he’s a 30 hr/250 hitter trying to get paid for his 47hr season.paying him is buying high.and you don’t really protect your rh hitters by signing another rh bat.that’s why Ryan Howard had his best years with Burrell or Werth behind him.once Ibanez became the 5 hitter,teams just brought in their lefties to take care of him,and his numbers declined from there on out.
prich
I see what your saying, but if it is only 10-12 million for 3 or 4 years, the Phillies can reach a 200 mil payroll and have no problems. The Phillies got tons of money and can easily stand to spend some now.
rgreen
Problem there is the Orioles already made him an offer in the 13-14m range,and he countered seeking 18-20.that’s the team and city he’s coming from,so there wouldn’t be any adjustments.and they’re a playoff team.if he didn’t take that from them,he’s not taking 10-12 from the Phils.and from the Phillies side,Quinn had a decent 15 gm call up,Williams got a full season in aaa under his belt,and Cozens had a great year in Reading.all 3 are close enough to be patient.
ullnvrknw
This is the time for the Yankees to get creative and offer the nationals Betances for Giolito and Robles
blueagleace1
This would be rather hard, seeing how Giolito was traded to the White Sox… Welcome to 2017.
BrodiesHairisGreezy!
Without a complete bullpen expect the Mets to lose a bunch of key games in April and May due to Bullpen Meltdown. Then watch as they again fight for a WIldcard at the end. Thanks Sandy (and of-course the Cheapons) for keeping that Payroll lean and mean.
slimjones92
You need new material
BrodiesHairisGreezy!
If not for me you wouldnt have any , Clod.
degrom4mvp48
There’s no reason for us to trade Bruce. Granderson maybe, but honestly I like the outfield the way it is. Céspedes, Granderson, Bruce.
prich
The Phillies need Saunders to bat between Tommy J and Franco. He will help protect the two youngsters and because of that I think all 3 will hit better.
jimk
Good to hear so many Braves fans comment on these wrong-headed assessments of the team’s needs.
Bullpen is fine. Johnson, Vizcaino, Cabrera, Krol can handle the 8th and 9th. Roe looked good inducing grounders. Winkler and Minter will be standouts if healthy and durable. Ramirez, Rivero, Rodriguez, Simmons, maybe Hursh and Collmenter are capable enough to round it out.. The Braves need not spent a penny to improve this position, which is one of the most cost-effective in baseball.
Adonis Garcia improved immensely last year, and Rio Ruiz is available to platoon if needed, plus Sean Rodriguez can play 3rd if he’s not needed at 2B, where Albies should be by mid-season. Again, we’re talking very budget-friendly adequate production. Sooner than you might think Demeritte, Austin Riley and young Kevin Maitan will be crowding this position. And I don’t believe in trading prospects for patches. (cf. the J.D. Drew/Adam Wainwright fiasco).
Yes, catching is a long term need although temporarily improved since AJP surrendered duties to Flowers/Recker. They’ll most likely pursue a LH hitting prospect with defensive skills — Jays’ Reese McGuire comes to mind — perhaps in a deal involving one of our AAA pitchers e.g. Sims or Wisler, with other compatible talent heading in both directions.
Next to catching, the Braves most pressing need is a lefty-hitting RF power prospect behind Markakis. These are hard to come by. We are loaded with speedsters and long term CF prospects but a lefty-hitting doubles and home run hitter with a strong arm to eventually succeed Markakis is nowhere in sight.
ibackthapack
Dustin Peterson might be a good replacement in a year or 2 but he’s left handed… we also got Ronald acuna coming up quick, he might develop into a 5 tool right fielder also
steelerbravenation
What are you talking about messed up a pick ???? Are you just plain ignorant Avery was a phenom that got hurt if injuries were able to be prevented there would be a lot of guys with a lot better careers. And I did not see anybody say that the Braves success could be duplicated. Any team is lucky if they are able to build a 3-5 yr window in this age. Stop minimizing what the Braves did.
And you think they alienated half their fan base why because they moved to the burbs are you kidding me have you ever been to Atl ??? It’s one of the worst attending sports cities in America always has been unless it’s NASCAR. Please the Braves have not sold out playoff games. Know the economics of baseball before you run your mouth. All the teams payrolls are paid before 1 fan sets foot in a stadium off of tv contracts alone. Not to mention internet and liscencing Baseball makes money hand over fist. All the teams.
marinest21 2
For how good of a GM Rizzo is, the one thing he never seems to understand is the value of a shutdown bullpen. The NLDS outcomes in 2012, 2014, and 2016 – and even the disappointment of 2015 – can all be arguably blamed on the lack of a solid relief corps. I forget which year it was – either 2013 or 2014 – but the Opening Day roster literally did not include any LHP RP.
Now, after striking out on Chapman, Jansen, and Melancon and needing to make up 242 IP, it seems us Nats fan find ourselves in the same place yet again. I like Glover, but he’s unproven. Kelley is a risk and Trienen can be electric but inconsistent.
We need to do something.
slimjones92
Not to mention how poorly they handled Drew Storen.
JDSchneck
I don’t think the braves could be in a better situation right now. Their bullpen could be one of the best for years to come thanks to an abundance of talent at every pitching level. The offense will do well, and the thing that will either make or break the braves chances of getting to the playoffs this year is the back end of the rotation.
garrog1949
pick up Valbueno 7mil. (platoon with Garcia) and Saltalamachia 1 mil. (platoon with Flowers and has caught knuckleball) Good lineup Inciarte(CF),Swanson(SS),Freeman(1B),Kemp(LF),Valbuen0(3B),Salty(C),Markakis(RF),Albies(2B)