Major League Baseball’s investigation into the Padres’ medical information practices is nearing its completion, reports ESPN’s Buster Olney, and the Friars could face penalty as a result of the findings. Olney reports that multiple sources have informed him that the Padres instructed their medical staff to compile two separate reports on each player — one for industry usage (i.e. medical reviews in trade talks) and one to be kept internal.
The difference between the two files, according to Olney, would be that the file for industry consumption would only contain information on injuries that required trips to the disabled list, whereas the in-house file would contain data on more minor injuries/maladies and preventative treatments that occur over the course of a given season. Three teams with which the Padres executed trades — the Red Sox (Drew Pomeranz), White Sox (James Shields) and Marlins (Andrew Cashner, Colin Rea, Fernando Rodney) were “enraged” and felt they were knowingly deceived by San Diego, Olney writes, adding that a fourth unspecified club filed a complaint with the Commissioner’s Office as well. Evan Drellich of the Boston Herald tweets that punishment for the Padres should be expected, adding that a common point he’s hearing in digging on this matter is that Red Sox president of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski “is [the] wrong guy to cross.”
The Marlins’ case, of course, is the most well-publicized. Rea departed his first start as a Marlin in the fourth inning due to elbow discomfort, and a subsequent MRI revealed ligament damage that ultimately required a platelet-rich plasma injection and may eventually lead to Tommy John surgery. The Padres ultimately traded highly touted minor league right-hander Luis Castillo back to the Marlins in exchange for Rea, and Olney now reports that Rea revealed to the Marlins that he’d been receiving treatment on his elbow for weeks leading up to the trade. That information, according to Olney, was not contained within the Padres’ medical records on Rea, therefore giving the Marlins no opportunity to back away from the deal due to concerns surrounding the young right-hander’s elbow.
As Olney explains, virtually any form of treatment — everything from DL trips down to the use of aspirin and anti-inflammatory medications — is supposed to be logged in a player’s medical file, and those files are logged to MLB’s central database and are available for review in trade talks. One source told Olney that an average team will have filed somewhere in the vicinity of 60 submissions to the database by the All-Star break, but the Padres had filed fewer than 10 submissions this season.
Perhaps most damning, Olney cites multiple sources with direct knowledge of meetings held by the Padres in Spring Training in reporting that the team specifically told its training staff that keeping separate files on the players would ultimately prove beneficial in trading efforts. If proven to be true, this would be far from the first controversy surrounding general manager A.J. Preller’s career as a Major League executive. Preller was suspended for violating signing guidelines and practices while heading up the Rangers’ international department and, per Olney, has also been reprimanded by the league since joining the Padres for violating industry regulations while conducting a workout with an unsigned player.
Those interested in the story are highly encouraged to read Olney’s full column, which goes into considerably greater detail on the matter and contains quotes from multiple unnamed executives on the Padres scandal.
ib6ub9
throw the book at them. how did they think they were going to get away with this? if I was a team owner I would never trade with them again. they did all this and still have a bad team. go luck in the future
fred-3
Preller is not a good GM
padresad
Everyone says Preller, however Mike Dee is CEO and President of Baseball Operations. Surely, he shoulders some of this blame too.
padresad
Preller suspended 30 days without pay for whatever was withheld in Pomeranz deal. More to come it seems.
Dookie Howser, MD
I wonder what the Padres had Matt Kemp’s weight listed as
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
1. Did MLB actually mandate the Padres to trade Castillo back to the Marlins for Rea? Until I read this I had been led to believe that Preller willingly agreed to reacquire Rea, who he never wanted to part with in the first place because the rebuilding Padres realistically had no reason to trade a starter who they controlled through 2021.
2. So when are they going to investigate the Marlins for trading us Chris Paddack, who needed Tommy John surgery after like 2 starts with the Padres organization?
todda1
Preller had no choice. If Preller didn’t want to trade Rea in the first place then why did he make the trade? More importantly why are you defending him?
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
He made the trade because it was the only way he could get the return he did for Cashner. The word at the time of the first trade was that Preller wasn’t even passively shopping Rea but the Marlins insisted on it and the return was too good to pass up.
cuban1
1.So apparently some idiots never learn reading comprehension, otherwise you would have read the part where Rea admitted he had been receiving treatment on his elbow for weeks leading up to the trade. Your seriously so dumb that you believe he didnt want to trade Rea, no genious, thats called bargaining, he knew the marlins were hard up for pitching so he tells them he doesnt want to part with Rea, this way if they want him bad enough he can force them to give up more. Why do you think he withheld info of treatment because the marlins wouldnt have done the deal otherwise.
2.keep mentioning Paddack stupid, its not like he made 2 starts with them before getting injured, and unless Paddack tells the padres he had discomfort before the trade, like rea did then theres no argument.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
I may have never learned reading comprehension, but you never learned the difference between your and you’re.
And Preller said he didn’t want to trade Rea in his press announcement after the trade happened, not during the negotiations. So no, it wasn’t just bargaining. The trade had already happened when he said this. You can’t bargain on a trade that already happened.
cuban1
Oh man, you got me, onegrammatical error, meanwhile you have littered this thread with one stpid post after another of your inability to comprehend that Rea was already dealing with issues before the trade and that the padres hid them by keeping two seperate medical reports. Meanwhile you argue about paddack needing tommy john after pitching for 2 weeks with the padres and having no previous complaints.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Yeah because the Padres aren’t sissies. They know that young pitchers often need Tommy John and it was just unfortunate timing with Paddack. The same with Rea, only the Padres agreed to take him back because they never wanted to trade him in the first place.
ThePriceWasRight
Preller didn’t want to trade him cause he knew someone would figure out this mess at some point. He took a chance and lost. now stop posting and wasting people’s time.
teamdave2002
There is a difference between a player getting hurt shortly after a trade and a player getting hurt shortly after a trade where the player’s former team knew that he was damaged goods. In the case of the Padres, they clearly were trading players they knew had a high risk of injury by hiding medical records from potential teams.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Oh and how do you know that they knew Rea was an injury risk? And how do you know the Marlins didn’t know Paddack was?
teamdave2002
Did you even bother to read Olney’s report or this summary of the report? It’s clear the Padres were attempting to dupe other teams by keeping two sets of books. Furthermore, it’s pretty obvious that Rea was hurt prior to his trade as MLB took the rare step of reversing a trade.
Take you blinders off and demand better from your team.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Up until an hour ago I had heard nothing of MLB reversing the trade. Just that Preller agreed to reacquire a player who he never wanted to part with in the first place.
P.S. They just got rid of the part that said MLB mandated the Padres trade Castillo back to the Marlins for Rea.
ThePriceWasRight
did you not read the article at all? He admitted getting treatment done on his elbow prior to the trade. whether the Padres thought it was serious or not is irrelevant, it’s against MLB protocol.
based on your responses to people’s comments though you may be just the guy to replace Preller in SD
teamdave2002
With all due respect, it doesn’t matter what you heard as clearly you don’t have the pulse of goings on in either the Padres organization or MLB. What matters is what actually happened. And what actually happened is the Padres attempted to trade damaged goods to several teams this year and were busted.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
I just think they need to enforce their rules across the board. If they’re going to investigate the Padres for trading Rea right before he gets injured that’s fine. But the Marlins also traded us a player who got injured after like 2 starts for us and I don’t see MLB doing anything about it. Nor do I see the Padres whining about it.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Did they not perform physicals on these guys before the trade? If not, that’s their own fault. If so, I feel like they would have found something.
JT19
If the Marlins didn’t know Paddack was an injury risk and/or his medical history didn’t necessarily scream incoming TJ surgery…then you’re arguing against your original comment. And the Padres knew Rea was an injury risk because he was getting treatment for his elbow. Any sort of pain/discomfort in any part of the body, on any player, is a flag for injury risk. The Padres failed to disclose this to the Marlins. While neither side probably knew the likelihood of an injury for Rea (as he easily could’ve gotten over the discomfort and been relatively healthy the rest of the season) its still the fact that the Padres didn’t disclose the correct medical history.
teamdave2002
I’m not sure what your disconnect is. At this point, it’s clear that the Padres acted in bad faith whereas the Marlins did not. It’s not a matter of whether the player was hurt shortly after a trade was made. The issue at hand is what the team knew beforehand. The Padres, by keeping two sets of medical records, knew that Rea was damaged goods. The Marlins did not know that about their own player. The Padres aren’t complaining because they have no ground to stand on.
Furthermore, it’s not just one team. From the report, the Padres committed fraud against at least four other teams.
Are you purposefully being obtuse here? Have I fallen for a troll?
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
So Chris Paddack got traded to the Padres and needed Tommy John surgery after like 2 starts and you’re telling me there were NO red flags in his medical records? Nothing at all?
teamdave2002
No, that’s not what I’m saying. I’m telling you that the Marlins kept only one set of medical records for Paddack (as opposed to the Padres practice of apparently keeping two sets) and disclosed all known medical issues. The Padres disclosed only medical issues that would have landed a player on the DL – by the way, all this is in the article.
At that point, the Padres, having full knowledge of Paddack’s medical background, decided to proceed with the trade. The Marlins, White Sox, Red Sox and a fourth team were not given the full extent of the medical records, and thereby were victims of fraud.
Look, I get the Padres are your favorite team and no one wants to think of their team as wrong. But it’s clear in this case that the Padres were wrong. Instead of trying to justify fraud committed by the management team, you should be demanding their firing.
You’re wrong to think the Padres are innocent of anything here, plain and simple.
chesteraarthur
Is an MLB team even allowed to perform a physical on a player whose rights belong to another team?
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
No. But they are allowed to not agree to a trade unless a physical is performed and the results are disclosed to them.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Did they not perform physicals before the trade? I feel like if there was a problem they would have known. And now they are just crying about a player they willingly traded for getting injured on their watch and MLB hates the Padres so they’re siding with the other teams.
cuban1
You do realize someone could tear their arm throwing athe first warmup pitch in spring training, doesn’t necessarily mean he had any signs leading up. Meanwhile we know for sure rea was already getting treatment, because he told them.
disgruntledreader 2
That’s certainly NOT what MLB concluded in suspending Preller. There have been no allegations that Pomeranz is damaged goods.
What the Padres were guilty of is not complying with league policies on entering information they were required to into the database.
amjr
Preller is not just a bad GM, he’s bad for baseball, period!
ratty1
What’s the big deal it’s the same model used for reporting Hillary Clinton’s Health status….2 sets of books rule these day’s.
lucero5000
Really? Can’t this be one place where we don’t have to hear your dumb political bs? I come here to read about baseball. Nothing else please.
teamdave2002
I agree completely. Why do people feel the need to inject politics into everything? There are literally hundreds of thousands of places on the web where you can voice your opinion on politics. Moderators should delete political garbage immediately.
bringoutthegimp
Your a idiot! Just like your racist Trump! The Padres are loser & so is Trump! Last place Losers! U & them!! Nov 8th he’s going to get crushed Rat Boy!!
teamdave2002
Just so you know, bringoutthegimp, your post is just as bad, just as “loserish” as ratty1’s.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
If you’re going to call someone an idiot at least know the difference between your and you’re.
User 4245925809
Just asking, in case some other Red Sox fan here remembers…
Didn’t Anderson Espinoza have some kind of arm fracture in his right arm, near his elbow that came out before he was traded? Like a couple-3 months?
Understand that if it came out in public somewhere, SD surely would have known(?) this existed and Boston knew about this when they signed him, as am pretty sure wherever saw that story it was found when they gave him his physical before the initial bonus.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
This sets a dangerous precedent for teams trading players who get injured after being traded.
teamdave2002
No, no it doesn’t. Again, did you read the article at all? The Padres committed fraud. I’m not sure how to simplify it anymore for you.
JoePauer
The only precedent this scenario sets for other teams is to second guess any interactions with the Padres organization. Just stop, man. Your logic in this thread is nearly nauseating.
SixFlagsMagicPadres
Wow, if things really are as bad as the article makes ten sound, this is going to really hurt the Padres in any future trades they pursue. I wonder what kind of discipline MLB is going to be in down on them. Fines, losing draft picks, reversing trades, etc? Maybe Preller gets suspended?
SixFlagsMagicPadres
*them
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Preller suspended for 30 days without pay. As long as we don’t have to reverse any trades or lose draft picks I’m ok
chesteraarthur
Depends which trades get reversed haha
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
I’ll take the Myers trade XD
mike156
If it’s all true, and the Padres did suppress information/fail to disclose in violation of league policy, then you have to come down hard on them.
Of course, the real penalty may come in the marketplace. Who would want to deal with a front office like that?
chesteraarthur
i really don’t even know what to say here.
I don’t know the exact language pertaining to MLB rules on disclosure for trades. That could make a huge difference in how bad of a violation this really is. Whether it ends up being an egregious violation of MLB’s rules or not this is just shady. I understand these teams are all competing against each other, but this just violates that sense of fair play.
So, whether this is a direct violation of the rules, or the padres getting cute and trying to game the system a little bit, either way, it’s a d**k move.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
As expected, MLB has to defend their favorite son the Boston Red Sox, even though Shields and Pomeranz have made every start since being traded and the Padres traded back for Rea (who they never wanted to part with in the first place).
mike156
As a Yankees fan I’m always delighted to see someone suggest that the Commissioner’s office favors the Red Sox–but, in fairness, do we have any facts on that in this particular incident? Is there a history of ignored complaints by other teams, with MLB only taking action when Boston was involved?
EndinStealth
It’s not completely the health issue it’s the principle. It’s the two separate reports. Shields and Pomeranz seem to be healthy, but there being two separate reports on them is the real issue.
disgruntledreader 2
The Red Sox had their own reprimand from MLB’s office of the commissioner just two months ago. This isn’t favoritism.
ThePriceWasRight
seriously? man your dumb.
Guess you don’t understand the injury isn’t be all end all of this story, it’s the fact this team doesn’t follow protocol and blatantly lied to teams about a players actual health. rules are not up for interpretation here.
Red Sox rob
Make them be the example of what happens when you lie, cheat !!! Make the penalty hurt bad
soxfan1
Don’t forget Kimbrel too