There’s been rampant speculation on White Sox ace Chris Sale since mid-July reports that the South Siders would listen to offers on their ace. The asking price has been said to be staggering — as many as five highly regarded prospects/young MLB-ready players — but teams are of course intrigued by the possibility of adding a pitcher of Sale’s caliber that can be controlled through 2019 for about $41MM (including the remainder of this year’s salary).
We’ll house all of the day’s Sale news/rumors in this post and update as new info comes in…
- USA Today’s Bob Nightengale tweets that the White Sox are saying they’ll hang onto both Sale and Jose Quintana, barring a late dramatic change.
- Joel Sherman of the New York Post hears that the Red Sox aren’t actively discussing Sale with the White Sox (Twitter link).
Earlier Updates
- Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports tweets that the Red Sox are pushing the hardest of any team for Sale, but there’s no indication that a trade will acutally take place.
- The Red Sox and White Sox had some late-night talks pertaining to Sale, reports USA Today’s Bob Nightengale (on Twitter). Nightengale adds that if Sale is moved — and that is a huge “if,” it should be noted — the Red Sox and the Dodgers are likely destinations. Jon Paul Morosi said in appearance on the MLB Network this morning that he considers the Red Sox to be the likeliest destination for Sale, though a trade is very far from a sure thing.
- FanRag’s Jon Heyman tweets that the Red Sox have indeed talked to the White Sox on Sale recently, but Chicago is seeking “at least” four young players from Boston, including “three of [their] best.”
- Heyman wrote this morning that the Red Sox, Rangers and Dodgers are seen as three of the most likely landing spots in the event of a trade due to the strong farm systems and bulk of MLB-ready talent that each has to offer. However, he also tweeted earlier that the Rangers and White Sox haven’t spoken about Sale recently. Notably, the Rangers have been focused on other trade options, including Jonathan Lucroy.
Sale to boston for blake swihart,rafael devers, micheal kopech, and benitendi
Then the red sox turn around and try to trade travis shaw for a good left fielder that has some power and have an early bring up of moncada to third base
Considering the price the Yankees got for Chapman and Miller, Sale would return far more than just that
Add Moncada and you’ll at least get the Sox’ attention.
We can’t trade Moncada.Sale is worth Moncada but Sox paid 63mil for him.You can’t trade him
Sure you can. The price of acquisition is a sunk cost. All that matters now is talent and the contract it plays under.
I can but Sox won’t
Sox can help with money. Trading for Sale will hurt badly.
Agreed. Add Moncada and maybe you have something.
Moncada is untouchable.
Moncada is no no
Replace Benintendi with Moncada and we might be getting somewhere. Ideally both would be included with some lesser secondary pieces, but Boston might not be willing to go that far. Of course, some other team might.
I think you’re short a mid-tier prospect and I don’t the White Sox would do it, but as a White Sox fan, I think I would do that. Would do it for Moncada instead of Devers without another prospect added.
Lol. Not even close to get Sale. I don’t know why Sox fans keep throwing in Swihart. He doesn’t even catch anymore (correct me if I’m wrong).
He doesn’t, but he still hits. The Sox are in desperate need of hitting at almost any position. It feels like half the time Quintana goes out to pitch, the Sox score 2 runs or less.
The Sox will find improvements over Lawrie, Navarro, and Schuck before they find a guy the caliber of Sale. You don’t trade a top-tier, legitimate ace, under a long-term, team-friendly deal for ONE elite prospect and a bunch of mid-level muck. The Red Sox wouldn’t just need to give up Moncada and Benitendi. They’d also need to include Devers plus some more prospects. Seriously – be realistic here.
As a Cubs fan, I’ll give you an idea of what it might take from them to land Sale … Schwarber, Hendricks, Jimenez, Happ, and Candelario. That’s FIVE players, including TWO guys off the big-league roster, one of which has 50 home run power, the second who is third in the NL in ERA… plus two top 50 prospects AND a third prospect who is highly regarded.
And even that package might not get the White Sox to bite because Sale is the face of their franchise, their best player, and a legit top-5 pitcher on a team-friendly long-term deal. The thought of trading that guy, for any package, makes a GM sick.
Here’s a thought…The Pale Hose can keep Sale and continue to suck for the next ten years while the Sox go on to win five of the ten next World Series.
Finally a fan who gets it.
Sale is not going anywhere unless they get offered one of the most insane packages of all time for him.
Far too many fans come up with offers of 1-2 top prospects plus filler which does not even come remotely close
And having Moncada over Sale means they wouldn’t suck? That’s laughable.
If Swihart is still hitting, it must be in batting practice. After having a nice season in 2014 at AA, he shot up into top-20 prospect rankings. Since then he hasn’t slugged over .400 at any level. The light-hitting Charlie TIlson, who the Sox just acquired, has a better SLG% over the last two years.
Swihart’s value in any trade is now as an organizational top-20, not an overall top-20. In other words, no one wants him anymore.
LMAO at Sox winning even one WS with the pitching staff they currently have on roster.
That is why this trade won’t happen the Red Sox aren’t trading there entire farm. There top two are very close to the majors probably see Benintendi later this month. I will be shocked if this trade happens. Just two high of a price to pay.
Well if the Red Sox can win 5 of the next ten WS without Sale then why do they want him?
I love how it is really those teams doing the White Sox a ‘favor’ by trading Sale to their team for a bunch of middling prospects, and maybe one good player.
I don’t think all Red Sox fans think that way. I think that the White Sox shouldn’t trade Sale now they should wait until the winter and see what a team would give him. I also think the Red Sox should not trade for Sale the cost is just too high when it sounds like they Moncada, Beintendi, Devers, Kopech plus it’s just too high of a cost. I’m also not saying that saying that the White Sox shouldn’t expect something like that but I hope the Red Sox don’t do it. Maybe some team will.
Better yet he’s been injured.
Got to include e-rod. No way can red sox have four lefties pitching in Fenway.
Why can’t the mariners pick up sales. We have the pieces to get it done. I would give up paxton, Edwin diaz, Tyler o’neill, and dj Peterson for him. Diaz is going to be a great closer, paxton has a lot of potential, Peterson will be a 20 Harry guy. O’NEILL is a .300 hitter in the future
Would Pomeranz Devers Basabe Dubon get it done?
absolutely not
Is this answer more because I didn’t include the big 2 or because of the needs of ChiSox or something else?
Both. Why trade Sale to turn him into Pomeranz and one good prospect?
Because the Red Sox fans realize Pomeranz was a bad trade and are trying to pawn him off and his “value” on someone else.
I’m surprised they aren’t trying to flog Pedoria and his “value”.
Pedroia is invaluable to the Sox
Because it’s 1 elite and 2 good prospects but substitute 1 for Kopech is that closer?
Oh, sure. Then maybe you can trade Shaw, Tazawa, Kopech, and Ball for Mike Trout.
Is this a serious comment?
No chance that gets it done
The White Sox won’t and should not settle for anything less than a monster package of essentially whoever they want in return for Sale. There is no reason to compromise for the sake of a trade
Steven, Yes there is. As the team is, they are about a .500 team. It’s the worst position to be in because there’s no chance of the playoffs, no chance of a top draft pick, and no top-10 protection for signing free agents. Keeping the same players and the same coaches will give the same results. They desperately need a change and part of Sale’s value is that he is on a team-friendly contract for 3 more years. That loses part of its value the longer they wait.
Personally I would wait until the offseason to explore a Sale trade. My point is that they do not have to move him now and can wait until you have potentially 20 teams bidding for Sale as part of their offseason plans.
While rebuilding is not a bad idea at all, I would not move him for the sake of moving him. There should not be any discounts or compromises. Unless you are clearly winning the trade I would not do it
If you’re “clearly” winning the trade, the other team has little reason to do it. Trades as lopsided as the Josh Donaldson one are rare.
Once again the White Sox can sit back and not trade him unless overwhelmed with an offer. They have no incentive to assist another American League team dominate for the next 3 years without a massive return.
So many fan trade proposals do not take into consideration how valuable a cost controlled true #1 starting pitcher is
Personally I would rather deal Frazier, Cabrera, Robertson before Quintana or Sale
Yet every year at the trade-deadline, competing teams are willing to overpay.
I think another big factor that us White Sox fans are considering is the negative trending of Sale this year outside of his Wins and Losses. He’s seen a dip in velocity and has been a 2 pitch pitcher all year. Couple that with his body type and annual “arm soreness” as well as his hot headed persona and it give you another reason to sell high. Don’t get me wrong the guy is a perennial Cy Young candidate but there’s a reason that he’s being floated in trades. Even the best of all time, Maddux, Pedro, Rocket, Big Unit were moved in their primes. No reason that Sale can’t be.
If you were a White Sox fan you would know that he changed his pitching style to last longer in games and not to strike out 15 batters a game. Sale has shown that he can still get the radar gun humming even late in games, but his drop in velocity is for a reason. .
Overpay? That is not what I’m seeing from the Fans of other teams right now (Well could see moving prospects for an Ace with a affordable contract, but not any of our good prospects) and not what teams appear to be offering as Sale is still a Sox. I think like Steven says, it would be better to at least wait until this off season to put him up, but I still think he is not going anywhere for at least a season or two. Quintana on the other hand or Shields on the other hand…
I agree. and perhaps the scariest part is the thought of the inevitability that Sale and/or q will get hurt. And then there is very little value relative to today.
Is your answer because of the lack of the big two? Because it doesn’t fill a need in ChiSox system? something else?
Let’s Go Red Sox!!!
If the Dodgers were going to give up that much talent, they would’ve done so for Jose Fernandez.
The problem is Miami wanted Urias and Seager plus more. Dodgers can likely get it done with Urias, De Leon, Joc, and 1-2 more pieces. The big hang up for Fernandez was Seager
Sale to Boston for swihart devers benintendi and Michael kopech
Then the sox trade travis shaw for a good left fielder with power and bring up Moncada early to play third
The Red Sox will probably have to do better than that. It’s at least a starting point.
Nope. This is the 2nd time in this thread you’ve suggested the same trade. That’s not nearly enough for Chris Sale, especially considering the market, his age and performance, and extremely team friendly 3 years of control.
You already said this, saying it again won’t make people agree with you, and calling up Moncada early will only hurt him.
If moncada isn’t in the trade it won’t happen.
Goodbye bogarts/betts/Bradley, moncada/benintendi, devers, Erod,Owens/Johnson. That what a trade would look like.
Lol. Certainly won’t be THAT much. Maybe half at most. Probably 1/3rd
1/3 rd for Chris Sale?!
As a Yankees fan seeing what you got in return for Chapman and Miller you have to know Sale would command a huge return far beyond what those relievers brought back
Originally I meant 1/3rd of those 9 players. And the best of the 1/3rd. I misread it and thought he was saying all of them.
Yankees got nothing with near as much as one of Betts,Boegarts or Bradley plus elite prospects it’s ridiculous
I don’t think you understand how the slashes / work,,,
Yah I admit I misread that. At first I was thinking all of them lol
Sox fans are dreaming if they don’t think one of betts/bradley/bogaerts headlines the deal
Not necessarily. I could see a trade happening that includes nobody off the Red Sox mlb roster.
And that is a clear overpay why it won’t happen.
Lol I wouldn’t trade Betts straight up for Sale what a joke.
That’s not what he said idiot
No he was asking for more than that stupid
lol, then you would be a horrible GM
I don’t think any GM would Betts is a borderline superstar already his value when you count the extra years of control is probably higher then Sale.
And Sale isn’t a Borderline superstar. He’s one of if not the best pitchers in the AL. You have to give up something to get something. The Red Sox can use Sale more than Betts right now. They have the best lineup but have mediocre pitching (outside of 1 or 2 pitchers).
So how I read that trade proposal is one of Betts/Boegarts/Bradley then add one of Moncada/Benintendi then add Devers then add Erod then one of Owens/Johnson. So in other words Bradley,Benintendi,Devers,Erod and Owens. Wow that would be a ridiculous overpay and I pray to that DD would not be held up to that highway robbery of course if the White Sox got offered that Sale would be on the next plane to Boston.
If I am the White Sox I want two of Xander, JBJ, Moncada, Betts, and Benintendi. If I am the Red Sox I don’t do that. Dodgers make sense with Urias a clear piece to trade.
That’s cute.Xander and Betts both have more value than Sale by themselfs
Agreed. Xander and Betts are not being traded for Sale. Not even one of them
Sox have replacements for Betts if he was to be traded. He is not more valuable than Sale.
Let’s see he is going to hit 30 homers drive in 100 runs score 125 runs and steal 30 bases. That is a not a player you trade for anyone especially when you consider he is controlled much longer than Sale. Betts would be a bad trade one for one let alone plus for Sale cmon now let’s get realistic fortunately I’m sure that DD knows this and would not do that trade.
Yes he is at least as valuable as Sale
Wow, congrats on using several Team Dependent stats there. 30 homers/30 steals is nice, I’ll give you that. But you have to give up something to get something and if you don’t give up Betts or Bogaerts (assuming you are talking about trading someone from the active roster), then you aren’t getting one of the best pitchers in the league. Case closed.
What about hitting 300 as well cmon it would be a one for one trade nothing else and you could argyle one way or the other who got the better. What I was saying i wouldn’t trade Betts for Sale straight up but that would be a fair trade Betts plus anything is an overpay simple as that.
And that’s why it didn’t get done the White Sox were probably asking for one of those two plus which is ridiculous.
No it’s not ridiculous. It’s a very fair asking price for a pitcher who is 4th in WAR in baseball since his debut.
Was referring to One of the 2. Not both. Both is certainly an overpay. One of the 2 is very fair.
Straight up I agree it’s a fair trade Mookie is probably going to be a 7 or 8 war player Xander just slightly less a one for one is probably right but one of those plus a say Devers or something that’s an overpay. I wouldn’t trade Mookie or Xander straight up for Sale maybe JBJ but I’m not sure there either. Don’t get me wrong I like Sale and would love to have just not for 6 years of control of a superstar and let’s face it that’s what Xander and Betts are superstars who play everyday.
By the way Benintendi called up going to debut tomorrow.
Urias alone does not come close to landing Sale. It would take much, much more
I’d say more, but not “much, much” more. He’s the best pitching prospect in baseball. I don’t think we’ve seen someone this young and this far along since Felix.
AND under control for so much longer! This type of value is completely unknown at the deadline.
Sales’ contract makes him incredibly valuable. Even as a three months rental you could get a king’s random for him.
With 3.5 years of control left you should ask for any 5 prospects you want in a team’s system
I’m not trying to be a jerk, but why would the sox trade a top 5 pitcher with arguably the best contract in baseball for a project pitcher with upside in Urias? If the sox were to trade Sale for say Urias and another prospect like verdugo, that’d be ridiculous and they’d be a laughing stock. Or even more so.
Because fan’s love potential and dreaming much more than reality and a track record.
“Young players” as in JBJ, Shaw, Betts, Bogaerts, or as in Moncada, Benintendi, Devers, Kopech?
Although the White Sox have every right to ask for Moncada, I really, really hope it doesn’t happen.
White Sox want ‘3 of best’ Red Sox players for Sale. Would rather want deal with BOS than LA.
I wonder if we were to take on money from white sox as in melkey, and Robertson would we not have to put moncada in the deal
If the white sox want pitching, the dodgers are the way to go. But considering they’ve been starving for hitting, boston could be the better option. These prices are steep, but for another cheap 3.5 years of a Cy young pitcher I dont think there is a precendent.
Dodgers= Sale for Urias, De Leon, Peterson, and Bellinger.
Red Sox- Sale+bullpen piece for Moncada, Benintendi, Swihart, Kopech
This is what I think the sox would ask, they would likely get a “no’ from both.
Why is Boston’s package much better than the Dodgers?
That is with the assumption that Boston would also want more in return. Which the white sox should absolutely include if they get that return.
My guess is the the White Sox want both a pitcher and a few position players. You do not trade your ace unless you try to get a future ace as part of the package, as the Sox do not have an in house candidate for that role (Rodon and Fulmer do not impress me much).
What about McCutchen from the Pirates (perennial MVP candidate in great-value contract), plus their #1 prospect in RHP Glasnow? They have a stable of middle-rotation prospects and two top catching prospects…
You could potentially swap out Taillon for Glasnow OR Austin Meadows (#2 prospect) for McCustchen…
It would have to be
Benintedi, moncada, swihart, devers, kopech and maybe ownes just to throw in and the white sox will most likely still say no
Than they will never trade him because that is the best package they will ever be offered for Sale
Rings, agree completely. And I would, as a White Sox fan, do that trade happily.
And the Red Sox will say no too that’s why this trade isn’t happening.
Swihart, Devers, Kopech, Benintendi, Owens would get it done
No way any deal gets done without both Moncada and Benintendi plus far more going to the White Sox
The other issue is what to do with Sandoval…shaw can play 1b, 3b Ramirez 1b,DH so what to do with Sandoval
Who cares about Fat Pablo.
Might as well light a pile of money on fire, that’s what he is worth.
He will come back over 300 LBS.
just do it already. keep Q and than trade Frazier.Robertson.Sheilds and Melky
I would trade Quintana before Sale. The White Sox would be doing him a favor as their inept team cannot score runs for him when he pitches (and Robin barely wakes up long enough to see it happening). Quintana has something like 50+ no decisions as a member of the Sox. It is really crazy and I do not know how Quintana can play with that club and not lose it when they barely get a hit off of the opposing pitcher when he is pitching.
I would like to see Ramirez DH, Moncada 3b Shaw 1b and Sandoval somehow gone. I also like Brentz LF, Bradley CF, Betts RF
Does any of the outspokenness or antics from Sale factor into this? The Dodgers went out and cut ties with Wilson, moved Kemp and all but came out and said they were toxic (I think the words “improve team chemistry” were used). Still doesn’t explain why they kept Eithier and Puig.
*IF* there is a concern does that make CWS *WANT* to move him and does it make other teams (like the Dodgers for example who have struggled with Chemistry) reluctant to sell the farm to get him?
BTW – For the record I LOVE Sale, I love that he’s outspoken and not afraid to say what he things and cut up uniforms that he thinks look like crap. I just wonder if ownership worry he will embarrass them?
I don’t think so. There’s a difference between being a pain because you want to win so badly and being a diva. From all I’ve heard about Sale, he’s the former. It was obviously wrong cutting up the jerseys like that and immature, but I think it shows more fire for winning than “problem child” who will disrupt team chemistry.
I think Sale’s antics are more frustration with the inept manager in the clubhouse and the questionable management above that. I think if Sale went to another team that had a good front office and a manager he could respect, those incidents would not occur.
What is their expectations from Red sox?? Mocanda for sure right?
A reasonable compromise for Sale would be:
Moncada, Benintendi, Devers, Kopech and Groome/Rodriguez for Chris Sale
Boston leaves its entire MLB roster intact and adds an ace for the next 3.5 seasons. Fans can cry over prospects, but what would improve that Boston team more than adding Sale right now?!
A healthy bullpen….
Maybe the White Sox could package Robertson along with Sale in a potential deal
No way. The white Sox can keep sale. I’m not trading the entire system for one guy. Sale’s frame and delivery are a injury waiting to happen. Need to balance the now and the future. If dombrowski trades our top 5 prospects he should be fired. The idiot already overpaid on kimbrel and pomeranz. I would talk to Milwaukee and see if we take on Brauns contract if the ask less in return for lucroy and will smith. Rather spend money than trade prospects.
As the Red Sox currently sit they do not have the starting pitching depth to make a deep playoff run, nor do they have any elite pitching prospects close to the mlb level
With the dearth of free agent pitching on the market this offseason any team looking to contend should be calling about Sale and/or Quintana right now
Yes, the cost would be staggering, but prospects can and will be replaced
So you are saying this: “I would not take Sale and the GM should be fired due to other bad deals, but I would take a OF who has gone as far as to impugn someone’s character to try to get away with doing PEDs’
No. You have trouble reading? I mentioned braum cause we could have filled 3 needs and not have to give up as much in terms of prospects. The could take on all braum contract which means brewers would ask for less since we wouldn’t ask them to kick in any money. My worry with donbrowski is him doing what he did in Detroit and destroy the farm system to just win now. Sale is great but not worth our top 5 prospects.
Just the tiniest pro-tip here, folks. When discussing a possible trade between the Red Sox and White Sox can we definitely, in these comments, define which Sox we are referring to? I can’t figure out on some of these comments which team you guys are talking about.
I can’t stand the front office of Dodgers. They really haven’t done a single thing that has impressed me and here we are a few hours away from the deadline and it looks like they won’t do much again when I’m my eyes this is the year we need to do a big move more than any other year.
Why this year?
I guess I’d answer that by saying we needed it last year too, and didn’t get it. Actually this year I’d hate to see the Dodgers give up the farm for Sale so long as Kershaw’s status is unknown.
That’s the exact same thinking I had. Lets pull the trigger now that our best player is possibly out for the season? Last season when you had 2 of the best arms in baseball at the top it made plenty of sense. Now? ehh
If the Red Sox trade for sale their fans would love the return but they would be irate w/ the cost. Moncada, Benintendi and Devers are just the tip of the iceberg for the required package. That said, Chris Sale will not be putting on a Red Sox uniform this season and the red sox won’t be raising the WS trophy this season either.
As a White Sox fan, what I’d hope for is (and I’d rather keep Sale but if they HAVE to move him):
Dodgers get Chris Sale and Melky Cabrera
White Sox get-Julio Urias, Yasiel Puig, Joc Pederson, Alex Verdugo, Holmes, plus 2-3 low level lottery tickets outside LA’s top 20.
Red Sox get Chris Sale and David Robertson
White Sox get Rusney Castillo and his contract, Moncada, Benindtendi, Kopech, Swihart, E-Rod or Owens, plus 2-3 low level lottery tickets outside Boston’s Top 20.
So Robertson is a salary dump if your taking Rusney?
I understand most fans of other teams don’t know the needs of teams they don’t follow but… why do I keep reading Joc Pederson’s name? LA obviously has a weakness in the OF, which is why they are considering moving Puig if an upgrade is available. They literally do not have another CF after Pederson, who is consequentially their best OFer. They have Howie Kendrick in LF for god sake and people keep assuming Joc is available for a pitcher.
If the OF can improve marginally than Joc could be moved. If there is a cloud of trades where several of them line up (which looks less and less likely now) then he could be moved. Otherwise a team with offensive weaknesses gets an even bigger one.
Once you start talking first-tier/ace starter being flipped for prospects/young talent, you always get into to “this guy is off limits” stuff. Few players are truly off-limits for the right return. You have to give to get–there just aren’t that many really poor trades made without a purpose. And, psychologically, no GM wants to give up a high-quality-scare-on-the-market pitcher for someone else’s surplus.
Free Agent contracts this past season:
Scott Kazmir – 3 yrs / 48 Mil
Ian Kennedy – 5 yrs / 70 Mil
Wei-Yin Chen – 5yrs / 80 Mil
Jordan Zimmerman – 5 yrs / 110 Mil
Johnny Cueto – 6 yrs / 130 Mil
Zach Greinke – 6 yrs / 206 Mil
Chris Sale – 3 yrs / 39.5 Mil (after this season)
Crazy value there. I feel like every team with any hope of winning in the next 3 seasons should be knocking on Hahn’s door.
I would rather go after a guy like Valasquez from the Phillies or Santana from the Twins rather than blow our future for Sale. Yes it would be nice but we already have opened LF for Benittendi basically and Moncada should be untouchable and after trading Espanosa Kopech should be kept and Deverse should be kept as well and outside those guys and Trey Ball and Sam Travis is fair game I just feel like it is in the RED sox best option to keep those guys for the future.
Ok, that’s fair. Not sure what you mean by Ball and Travis being fair game–in a deal for Sale? If yes, then that’s laughable.
If what you are saying is that you don’t want to pay the price for Sale–then I think your approach is very rational. Go for something lesser, keep your highest quality players.
If I’m the White Sox I don’t make this deal unless it includes Moncada and Benintendi.for our proven ace Sale.
If I’m the Red Sox I don’t trade both Moncada and Benintendi and mortgage our future.
The trade can be had, and both can benefit, but it’s a HUGE risk for both. say the prospects don’t pan out, well now the White Sox can’t even claim it was a salary dump because Sale’s contract is so team friendly that there really is no need to move him. If sale proves he struggles in Fenway like so many pitchers do then the Red Sox just sold their future down the road for David Price 2.0
I am a Red Sox fan and I try to be unbiased, but if it were me personally I look at JBJ,Betts and Xander and see what a lift those guys have had on our team and imagine the effect 1 or even 2 more solid young hitters could have on our offense. Chris Sale is a lights our bonafide ace, and the CHW should expect nothing less than teams best for him, but i woulndn’t be willing to give up both Moncada and Benintendi and risk our farm for the foreseeable future.
They should have photo shopped Sale and put him in the 1976 jersey.
Benintendi, swihart, e rod, and kopech
Moncada and devers are too good
Sale for Reyes, Seigrist, Wong, Bader, and Sosa gets it done.
Not even close.
White Sox fans, what would you think about the following for Chris Sale: Andrew McCutchen (all-star center fielder and perennial MVP candidate with fantastic contract terms) and Tyler Glasnow (RHP, #1 pirates prospect, #6 overall) plus prospects like Elias Diaz (C, #13 prospect,), & Steven Tarpley (LHP #20 prospect)?
You are kidding right! Mccutchen for sale straight up is crazy.
Not straight up – there are 3 prospects also included in my scenario, one of which the Pirates’ #1 prospect, a 6’8 righty who throws consistent upper 90’s. He is the future ace that the previous poster was looking for.
For the people that say swihart cant catch anymore are wrong, he can still catch just vasquez was better so they moved him in order to have his bat in the lineup
Swihart, erod, devers and then maybe a henry owens and a sam travis
They can certainly ask much, but too much is too much !
Sale to Red Sox will happen. Dski will pull the trigger at 3:00 pm
Not unless the White Sox bring down the price.
White Sox are just wasting everyone’s time – just like they do to their (diminishing) fan base
Looks like Red Sox are out of it for Sale
twitter.com/PeteAbe/status/760167600403783680
Going to take Moncada,Beneditti, devers, and two good arms
For those Red Sox fans dreaming of trading Owens, devers, Swihart, Shaw and Erod type package your fucking nuts because white sox will get your top three prospects and two decent ones
Fact!!!!!
White Sox expressed “renewed interest” in Puig …. Puig, De Leon and either Urias or Bellanger plus anybody on the roster not named Seager, Kershaw or Maeda for Sale
I believe the Puig interest is exclusive of any Chris Sale discussions. Rick Hahn has been linked to him for the past three seasons to fill the black hole that is RF.
Now having said that, I don’t know that the White Sox have the pieces to acquire Puig right now. Then again, he is putting up Avisail Garcia-like numbers, so maybe the Dodgers are ready to cut ties now that Reddick is in the fold.
Robin Ventura as Yasiel Puig’s manager. Puig would love the lack of supervision.
dodgers get sale or quintana for Julio Urias, yasiel puig, Cody bellinger, and some other prospects
If I’m Boston, I’d make the trade. The rotation has been very bad this year. Prospects are just that, no guarantee. They come and go.
How about E-Rod, Shaw, Benintendi, Swihart and Owens
Boston and Chicago don’t align 1-to-1 on the Sale deal. They need to make it a 3-team deal. They need to acquire the types of top prospects that Chicago is searching for, add in Devers and a few others not named Benentendi or Moncada, and pull the trigger.
The White Sox can keep Chris Diva. He is a cancer in the clubhouse. Puts himself ahead of his team and his boss. He may be a good pitcher, but he is an idiot.
Finally we can put to rest the Red Sox being stupid and trading half there farm system for Sale at least until the offseason.
Another trade deadline full of Sale rumors, another missed opportunity to restock the Sox’ farm system. When will management realize that their current team is not good enough and that adding aging sluggers who never could hit for average isn’t the answer? They have no farm to speak of now that Anderson and Fulmer have been promoted, no way to consistently manufacture runs, and their bullpen has been pretty bad for a couple months now. Sox could’ve traded a bunch of their veterans and gotten one of the best farm systems in the game. Now it’s just waiting until the offseason before the meaningless rumors start flying again.
I know the Red Sox wanted to get Sale I’m sure they wanted him real bad and I’m sure they gave what they thought was a fair offer and the White Sox wanted a ridiculous amount that is the only reason it didn’t happen. DD is willing to trade prospects he has shown it in the past and he will do it again in the future but he is not into making bad overpay trades and that is what the White Sox wanted to move Sale. If it was anywhere near realistic I think DD would have traded for Sale. The White Sox will have another opportunity this offseason to trade for prospects or even an established major leaguer but at least for now they were asking for too much.
As a Red Sox fan the ONLY way they may get close is if they offered; Moncada, Rodriguez, Benintendi and two other decent prospects, like Swihart. I don’t think they were ever close.
The best match out there is the Dodgers. as they have the combination quality and pitchers and position players close to the majors. If the Dodgers didn’t get it done the White Sox must have been looking to shoot the moon.