The Pirates have announced that they’ve received righty Drew Hutchison from the Blue Jays in exchange for lefty Francisco Liriano, outfielder Harold Ramirez and catcher Reese McGuire. The deal comes as a shock, as the Bucs gave up two legitimate prospects in exchange for a marginal rotation option and relief from the approximately $18MM remaining on Liriano’s contract.
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Liriano was a top performer in the Pirates’ rotation in 2013 through 2015, but he has struggled badly in 2016, with a 5.46 ERA and a league-leading 69 walks. The Bucs, much-praised for their reputations for fixing struggling pitchers, evidently felt they wouldn’t be able to fix Liriano, who is making $13MM both this year and next.
Hutchison, formerly a regular in the back end of the Jays’ rotation, has spent most of the 2016 season with Triple-A Buffalo, where he’s posted a 3.26 ERA, 9.7 K/9 and 3.1 BB/9. He’s had considerably less success in his four-year big-league career, with a 4.92 ERA, although with a reasonable 8.3 K/9 and 2.8 BB/9. He’s making $2.2MM this season. He’s eligible for arbitration for two more years after this one, should the Pirates choose to keep him.
The 21-year-old Ramirez was batting .306/.354/.401 for Double-A Altoona. He has a stocky build and hasn’t yet developed much home-run power, but is relatively close to the Majors at a young age and has always hit well for average. MLB.com ranks him the Pirates’ ninth-best prospect.
Ramirez’s inclusion in the deal was surprising enough, but the inclusion of McGuire is downright strange — McGuire’s bat hasn’t developed, but he’s a very highly regarded defensive catcher who rated as the Pirates’ No. 8 prospect. MLB.com notes that his plus defense makes him a likely future regular, with potential to be more than just a defensive-minded player depending on how his bat develops. The 21-year-old has batted .259/.337/.346 for Altoona this season.
Overall, the deal is reminiscent of the Diamondbacks’ 2015 trade of Bronson Arroyo and top prospect Touki Toussaint to the Braves for Phil Gosselin and relief from Arroyo’s salary. The Diamondbacks’ end of that trade was harshly criticized by most analysts, and the Pirates’ end of this deal seems likely to suffer a similar fate.
Robert Murray of Fan Rag was first to tweet that a deal had been struck. Shi Davidi of Sportsnet.ca tweeted that the Jays would receive two prospects. Gideon Turk of BP Toronto tweeted that Hutchison was involved, with Stephen J. Nesbitt of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette noting Ramirez’s involvement.
For a second I read Francisco Lindor
I wish it was Frank Francisco…one of the best 9th innings guys Jays ever had
And here I finally completely forgot about that guy and you had to go ahead and bring him up again. Thanks, man.
Those old wounds are brought back to the surface lol
Sorry but it’s either him or Francisco Cordero. Take your pick.
Right before the buzzer
Wow
Finally
Sweet! What do we get??
I thought the deadline ended an hour ago? Maybe I was wrong and it just ended now? Or was this trade done and just not reported until now?
I imagine it just now got reported.
Trades can take place if they were in the works around 4pm until 5pm or 6pm. Morse and Happ were acquired at 5:30 last season.
There is a god!!!!!!!!!
Not a good place for him to pitch. Bullpen?
Doubt Liriano goes to the bullpen considering he’s never pitched out of the bullpen and has had control issues his whole career. I do think this will improve the Jays bullpen though cuz i see this as a move to replace Sanchez’s spot in the rotation down the stretch so his innings can be managed as a set-up man for Osuna.
You’re probably right, but I don’t think he will stay there. His high walk total will hurt more with Toronto being a hitters park.
Pirates reportedly acquiring 3B Josh Donaldson, P Aaron Sanchez, P Roberto Osuna, and 2B Devon Travis. According to multiple sources.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!! i dont even care what we got back, this is a win for the pirates!
Liriano for Donaldson is fair only if you throw in Jose Bautista, with Toronto eating most of their salaries.
Hey, Joey Bats’ longtime gf is a Pittsburgh girl. Well, sort of. If you consider her tiny town 90 minutes away to be Pittsburgh.
Joey bats was a scrawny kid when he was on the pirates. He drank some bonds and A-Rod juice
Are you serious? He’s not even big. He’s had nowhere near the body transformation that guys like Bonds and McGwire had. Any weight or muscle he’s put on since his early days with the Pirates is nothing out of the ordinary.
Who is your source cause all I’m hearing is Drew Hutchinson maybe some others. No way they give up Josh Donaldson. Sanchez is moving to Jays BP.
I’m joking btw hahaha
I can’t believe they took that seriously
May be a good deal for the Bucs. Liriano seems to have lost his edge so maybe another scenery change will work and looks like Pirates got at least a decent pitcher back. Any comment from Jay’s fans as to what Hutchinson is all about??
Hutchison (no “n”) is one of those guys who is a great 6-7th starter on your depth chart. He’s capable of pitching a major league game without killing you, but he’s maddeningly inconsistent as a regular rotation member. He was actually the opening day starter last year, but fell into an ugly rut of every-other-start being excellent or terrible. If he can ever get it right he’ll be a solid starter though.
Thanks for the info. He appears to be what Liriano is without the experience.. Frankie has been the same way this year. Ugly one game and pitches like Cy Young into the 6th the next game then gives up a run or two and gets pulled.
Great! Another Jeff Locke!
hutch will be as good as Cole at home and as good as Niese on the road. he is truly jekyll and Hyde
Hutchison could easily be a 4th or 5th starter on many teams and is only 25, cheap and controllable. Honestly, I think it’s a good pickup for the Pirates. We’ll see what the final deal looks like though.
In 2015 Hutchison had a 2.91 era and 1.1 ratio in 90 innings at home. On the road he had a 9.83 era and 2.08 ratio in 60 innings.
The road starts can be further broken down into 3 starts at Boston and 2 at Baltimore where he gave up 30 earned runs in 15 innings.
Just getting him out of the AL East is a good start at fixing him. The road era still seems impossibly bad, Tipping pitches in road starts? Figure out that issue and he could be a good starter.
As much as he has done for the Bucs in the past I’m shocked at how many people are trashing him so hard.
Pgh Fans seem to parrot the local talking heads and they all have been bashing him this season. Gets people to call in or post on the articles. Did great for the Bucs but just seemed to lose the edge this year and was just off a shade and could not get guys to chase his stuff much.
He’s 5-11 with a 5.68 ERA this season has had like one good start every so often but he’s horrible this year. Has had at tops one great season for us. 16-8 year. But nothing since then. Hopefully Bucs get more than Hutchinson back.
He’s very frustrating. He will go through stretches where he is unhittable, then stretches where he can’t throw it over the plate, then stretches where he throws every pitch down the middle. All of these stretches can occur in the same game. He seems to keep tinkering with his delivery, placement on the rubber, etc. and not surprisingly this affects his consistency. He is a fierce competitor, but he sometimes (to me) looks complacent; maybe some think he doesn’t care, though I don’t think that’s the case.
I would say the inconsistency was early season. Since then he is just bad. 2 QS out of last 14 starts. Giving up Ramirez seems excessive but probably the cost of Tor paying all of Liriano 2017 salary. Hutchison only 25, possible 4-5 starter. Regardless, that’s 13 M to be used for ??
Giving up Ramirez seems excessive. Giving up both Ramirez and McGuire is just inexplicable.
We better be getting more than this if Ramirez is involved.
The big Ah!!! for the trade seems yet to be announced. If Harold went too, something else is coming back to the Pirates. Pirates Prospects had a couple of unnamed prospects leaving with Frankie so………..
Liriano
Good pick up for the Pirates i think Hutchison can be at least a decent #3 in the rotation!
He’s way better than Lirano. The Buc’s totally fleeced Toronto.
Uhh. Exact opposite actually. Liriano is better (though not better in 2016) but better over the past several seasons, and Toronto fleeced Pittsbrgh by not only getting a better overall pitcher, but also getting prospects.
Be a decent number 3 based on what, exactly?
Hutch is the big winner in this deal. He needed a change of scenery. Hopefully Ray Searage can work his miracles with him. I can’t say I’m sad to see him go. Good live arm, but too many walks and way too much hard contact. All goes well, he’s a back of the rotation guy. Good luck
There has to be more to this deal. I get the salary dump aspect of Liriano, but its not like he’s Mike Hampton or something. If we seriously gave away Harold Ramirez to make the deal and only got back a never-was 25-year old starter, I’m going to be pissed.
Yeah, I’m a pretty big NH fan, but if this is it, it’s the worst trade he’s ever made.
I was pushing for the idea of dumping Liriano even, but NOT paying someone to take him.
This is a terrible deal unless something else is coming to PGH.
It’s a joke. Stack up Huntington’s trades since day one, there is no way to defend his track record. Free agent signings? Sure. Drafts? Sure.
Trades? The Pirates are the lackey, constantly getting taken advantage of. If I was the owner, Huntington wouldn’t have a phone or internet access in his office.
If you thought it was bad before, the fact they also gave up Reese McGuire is going to make your head explode.
Yea that AJ Burnett trade was awful. So was that Cervelli trade. The Marlon Byrd trade, terrible. Don’t even get me started on the dumpster fire that was the JA Happ trade. Getting Hanrahan, trading Hanrahan for Melancon just dumb moves. Early moves were made to try and get a large quantity of prospects into a barren farm system. Later moves have been much better. Liriano is done. He’ll get murdered pitching in Toronto. Ramirez is Tabata 2.0 and Reese McGuire can’t hit. So they sold them for 18 million dollars that the Pirates can try and reallocate this offseason. JA Happ would look really good in a Pirates uniform right now, wouldn’t he? Now they can at least attempt to find a new pitcher in the offseaon with that money. They gave themselves options and it cost two prospects that would never see the light of day in Pittsburgh. So many moronic Pirates fans here in the burgh.
Hey guess what: literally every other fan of every other team thinks this of their front office, except maybe St. Louis.
While you are correct that McGuire probably won’t be a great hitter in the majors and that he is blocked from starting in Pittsburgh by Cervelli, there are other things in play with McGuire that makes almost everyone call his inclusion in this deal strange and puzzling. There is absolutely no question that Reese McGuire can be a quality defensive catcher in the big leagues. The only real question about McGuire is if he will hit enough to be a starting catcher. He seldom strikes out and walks in fact more than he fans. He is also slightly young for his league’s age. There are more than enough organizations who would had loved to acquire a prospect like McGuire and would had paid more on the market for him than lumping him into a salary dump. I think that is most people’s main gripe, the fact that Huntington seems not to have maximized McGuire’s value.
Don’t forget just because the Pirates have Cervelli extended doesn’t mean that he will catch every inning of every game. The pirates need a back up catcher just like every other team does. There is definite value in quality defensive catchers.
THIS POST. Love it.
I agree; if you asked someone in April “Hey, should the Bucs trade two of their top ten prospects for Drew Hutchison?” You would have politely answered…OK, you would not have been polite. Awful, awful trade–maybe the worst the club has made since the original Ramirez trade.
Thats what Diaz is for
If that’s it, I would have loved for the Rockies to have traded Jordan Lyles for Liriano and Ramirez. Lyles is at least comparable to Hutchison.
The Pirates typically overpay with their prospects. That’s probably it of the deal.
Not lately….. have trade none of the top prospects for years.. Back in the 90’s yeah, they gave away prospects by the bus load for older players but picked the wrong ones to get with the prospects
Liriano has a 2.92 era in 33 starts with Russ Martin catching him. So maybe that familiarity will help the Jays
Now….that’s the ticket!
Great point. Didn’t even think about him reuniting with Martin
Huntington is dead to me. Who gives up the #9 prospect in your system in a salary dump?
Add another crap deal to the resume of Neil Huntington.
#8 and #9 prospects with McGuire involved
The same guy that also gave up the #8 prospect in the same deal.
Dave Stewart… i.e. Touki Toussaint (thanks Dave!)
I see reports that it’s Harold Ramirez AND Reese McGuire along with Liriano for only Hutchison. That’s insane
Neil what you do. I mean, including Ramirez was surprising but I guess he was blocked by Marte and Polanco, but McGuire?!
He was blocked by Cervelli as well. Still seems to be a horrible trade, but not crushing for the Pirates by any means.
If he stayed in the Bucs system he likely would have been Very replacement as he likely would have started next year in AA and moved up to AAA at some point and get called up after super 2 in 2018 providing an opportunity to trade Cervelli in the offseason or at the deadline of his final year.
And Diaz
Yeah they were both blocked, I just don’t like this because they easily could’ve gotten someone better for the two of them.
This is such a strange deal but is there anyway the Blue Jays would be willing to flip Reese to the Braves ?
Why were the Braves not in on this deal ? We had money to eat Liriano’s contract for those 2 prospects. There coulda been our catcher of the future right there. And Ramirez numbers are very good. Man Coppy u dropped the ball on that one.
I woulda gave up Blair for that package.
If Huntington really did also include McGuire in this deal, he needs to have his office cleaned out tonight. That would be an idiotic, 1990’s/2000’s Pirates move similar to dumping Jose Bautista for nothing.
I hope these rumors are false, otherwise, say hello to 1,000 fan per game attendance for the rest of the season.
I liked Huntington alot too until this season. He’s really gone all A.J. Preller this season.
That’s the confirmed deal.
Wow, 2 borderline top-100 prospects for Hutchison and getting rid of Liriano’s contract. Definitely looks like a steal for the Blue Jays. I will say that Hutchison has good stuff though and has breakout potential. He’s only 25 and finished 8th in the AL in strikeouts in 2014. He should be a solid back-end arm for the Pirates for years, with mid-rotation upside. I think a lot of people judging this trade will underrate Hutchison’s value as far as how the Jays and obviously the Pirates valued him.
I usually stand by NH, but this deal is just absurd. Liriano for Hutchinson should have been enough, but Harold and Reese also? This deal honestly could have been enough to get NH fired. Ridiculous over payment and honestly, I could care less what happens to the Pirates this season because of this trade. I really hope that this deal is a hoax but I don’t believe it is
who would trade hutch for liriano straight up right now? you’d be getting the same results but paying a lot more money to roster liriano for this year and next year.
Liriano would not have been enough for Hutchison, the Jays would have no logical reason to make that deal when Hutch could give them the same level of performance (or better), but one of the prospects should’ve been enough to even it out. Both was definitely an overpay.
Love this trade, build the farm and the rotation for the next couple seasons in one swing. Awesome, the Jays new front office has shown a lot of savvy this season, great work!!
Yet another terrible move for Neal Huntington, when will it be time to fire him. Absolutely horrible trade! Two top ten prospects from the pirates for Drew Hutchison?!? Terrible.. This guy needs to find a new job immediately
If those 2 kids are included in this deal this is a huge get for the Blue Jays. Jays call looking for a starter and end up with 2 promising prospects (love the potential of McGuire) along with the starter at the same asking price. WTF Huntington. Even if Hutchinson turns out to be something decent (best case) it still was a massive overpay. No one was competing with you to acquire him. Could have added those kids in a deal w the ChiSox for a legit starter…. shesh
Strange deal for the bucs for sure. I am really shocked that they gave up Reese McGuire in this. I’m quite sure that several teams would had been willing to pay more for him if the news was broadcast they were looking to deal him.
Definitely a steal for the Blue Jays. The Pirates may very well look for a new GM after the season is over. That deal is horrible.
Huntington will remain the GM. This trade, along with the Morton trade, was a salary dump. Both Coonley and Nutting had to guy ave signed off on it. Since the Pirates went cheap this past winter, dumping Walker, Bastardo and Morton, the Liriano trade reflects that strategy. It’s not just that they wanted to rid themselves of Liriano’s contract, they used two players that had already cost them millions to acquire to accomplish the salary dump. Moreover, these players had considerable present value, and this value must be added to the money the Pirates spent to acquire them a few years ago.
Hutchison may become a quality ML starter. But the Pirates traded Liriano to save money.
Your welcome, Blue Jays!
Signed,
Neil Huntington
This has to be a misprint. Surely Dave Stewart made this trade. All Jolly Rogers are ordered to half-staff today.
Wrap a bow on that mofo – Huntington bought Xmas early to Toronto.
Between this trade and the lackluster return for Melancon, I think this moves the Pirates slightly ahead of the Reds for worst trade deadline performance. I can’t really think of any other team that just jumps to the forefront in that discussion.
I first looked at this deal when it said Liriano for Hutchison, and two prospects. I thought “Yes!”. We dumped his contract, let’s go spend it all on Encarnacion this offseason.
Then I saw Ramirez and McGuire were involved, and had slightly more mixed feelings. But how in the world does Huntington think dumping 17 million and a (maybe) back-of-the-rotation/long reliever is worth two of our best prospects that are borderline top 100?
I guess he just doesn’t like his job, and wants demoted to water cooler filler. There isn’t even a really crappy metaphor for this trade. It just sucks. The Blue Jays are throwing parties over this deal. John Gibbons should get a 10 year extension, he sure played us
Recall Huntington used to work for Toronto GM so this looks like a little giveaway to me. Fire NH today
This is simply awful. I’ve advocated moving Ramirez and McGuire as they seem to be blocked, but to give them to a team along with a potential #2 if he is right is insane. NH has some explaining to do
A big surprise since the new Jay management has been so careful with their spending. Perhaps the Jays will go to six starters to reduce the load on everyone especially Sanchez. Dickey has been awful for several weeks so not sure what happens if Dickey continues to under perform.
Tough to be a bucs fan today. This is a pure salary dump in the realm of ARam. Liriano, no problem but those are high quality prospects for a pure salary dump. Hoping there is more to this.
Awwwwww crap. The Blue Jays are going to take Sanchez out of the rotation and replace him with a guy worse than Hutchinson. Lovely. Kiss the post season good bye.. Only 2 good starters is not enough to get you to the playoffs.. Let’s be honest, Stroman is having a sophmore slump and is pretty poor most starts and Dickey is Dickey; neither are any good, now we have a pitcher who is far worse. Good news for Boston and Baltimore.
Absolutey horrible….this trade could be one of the worst I’ve ever seen. There is no way you give up two solid prospects for a guy like Hutchison! They’re way too valuable to just “give” away like that! Beyond stunned!
This is reminiscent of the Dave Littlefield era, and the Aramis Ramirez salary dump to the Cubs which turned out to be one of the worst trades in recent Pirate memory. There is absolutely no good explanation for including Harold Ramirez and McGuire in this deal. None. Liriano’s contract wasn’t that much of an albatross.
I thought there were rules against selling prospects. If Ramirez and McGuire are going, this is a prospect sale, not a trade. I’d bet just about any team in baseball would take McGuire and Ramirez. Just think what these two would be worth if they were coming from Cuba!!!
Waiting to see if there’s more to this, and it seems to violate MLB rules.
I don’t think Neal Huntington got the memo. He is supposed to help us win, now and in the future. This deal does neither. Sure, we dumped Liriano’s salary, but we traded away two future regulars in the majors, for… what? This deal reminds me of the one the Pirates made for Matt Morris 10 years ago. Except Matt Morris actually had a good reputation, and declined from what he was. Drew Hutchison was never more than an okay back-of-the-rotation player. He’s not even that anymore. I don’t understand why Huntington thought this trade was a good idea in the first place.
The Jays add yet another mediocre pitching arm… it’s a shame all that position talent getting wasted like that.
This isn’t about adding Liriano.
Agreed. I”m sure they’re hopeful he can rediscover himself with Martin and a new coaching staff’s eyes on him, but Liriano is even less reliable as a 5th starter at this point than Hutch would’ve been. They didn’t make this move with the expectation of getting better now, they made it for the possibility of getting better but primarily for the prospects.
> The Jays add yet another mediocre pitching arm
You do know that the Jays are #1 in MLB in ERA (after August 4 games)?
Odd trade. Love to hear a coherent explanation for it from the Pirates side.
Yeah. this is the worst trade I’ve seen in a long, long, long time.
They gave away two legit prospects to save a few bucks.
I sincerely hope the fans PUNISH the Pirates badly for this with a steep drop off in walk up sales.
Make it cost them more. This is inexcusable.
McGuire can’t hit, and Harold Ramirez has a decent tool and not much else. A couple of really overrated prospects right there. I like it for Pittsburgh’s salary budget and Hutchison is kind of exactly the kind of player who responds to Ray Searage. Hutchison still has a mid-rotation ceiling IMO, and Toronto get an upgrade for a postseason race.
Prospects? I can understand Ramirez but if they give up McGuire, the jAys better be taking all of Liriamos salary.
Simmer down people and allow me to be the voice of reason here. I’ve watched these two quite a bit as I live near Bradenton and attend many of their games.
Reese McGuire has a long way to go with the bat before he can become a major leaguer. Yes, his defense is solid but he’s ticketed for a reserve role if the hit tool never materializes. I compare his future to a Chris Stewart.
Harold Ramirez on the other hand has the effort and a good bat. His issues, I believe, will be covering enough of the plate in the majors where the pitchers are much better at changing speeds and locating pitches. I comp’d him as a Rajai Davis.
TL;DR- I don’t think anyone would be calling for Huntington’s head if the trade was our number 4 starter(with $18mm left on the contract), Rajai Davis, and Chris Stewart for a number 4 starter in the AL East with 2 years of arbitration left.
You’re trying to make a point by already declaring what they’ll become, as if there’s no debate on that front. Obviously not everyone agrees with your assessments, so people have different views of the trade.
And while Davis’ minors numbers look similar to Ramirez’s, he was significantly older than Ramirez at every stop. He didn’t even reach AA until he was 24; Ramirez is already hitting .306 there at 21.
I can’t do anything but agree with you on that. In fact, there’s nothing anyone can do until we see what becomes of all the players involved. Certainly my assessments could be wrong, I’m no paid scout, but I watched these players quite a bit and it seems like I’m the only one not jumping up and down calling for Huntington to be fired. I’m not just looking at the prospects list and deeming it bad, I’m offering a first hand look at these players, and they remind me very much of a 4th outfielder and backup catcher. Useful pieces, sure, but not something to dismiss a GM over.
I’m stunned that the Jays got this much for Drew Hutchison. I don’t even mind Liriano’s salary. He’s been a solid pitcher as recently as last year. Maybe he can turn it around in Toronto. However, to also get the Ramirez & McGuire in the deal is unreal. Hutchison has been nothing but inconsistent. He’s struggled on the road & has been struggling in AAA recently (16 runs in his last 3 starts). The Jays did quite well in this trade
Wow…this is an awful deal by NH! This is old school Pirates thinking. This trade was 110% FINANCIALLY driven, NOT baseball driven! And that really ticks me off. I don’t mind dealing Liriano and I don’t mind dealing Harold Ramirez (Because although he is a talented prospect on the offensive side of things, he defensive metrics are a bit Shakey AND more importantly than anything, he is BIGTIME blocked on the depth chart…HOWEVER, to include prospect like Reese McGuire in a deal that your ONLY return is a guy of Drew Hutchinson’s caliber and value is 110% IDIOTIC. REESE IS A TOP 100 PROSPECT FFS! This is a deplorable move on the Pirates end. The Blue Jay’s should be laughing the entire way to the podium to announce this deal… ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE in every way, shape, and form!
This seems like an awful, awful trade for the pirates
And now I really like REALLY want to hear how good GM NH is and how many great smart basebal deals he made. Liriano and two top-10 prospects for a very mediocre starter? HOW IS THAT BS EVEN POSSIBLE? How stupid you should be to do that? Wow!
One subplot: Pirates’ Neal Huntington was a longtime assistant for Blue Jays’ Mark Shapiro when they were both in Cleveland.
I have tinfoil hats for sale — cheap.
Clearly, the Bucs are all about the buck$$$. The Pirates wo 92 games last year. NH did some off season shopping that provided some depth but the glaring weakness was starting pitching. Glasgow and company could not provide what was needed. As a fan, I am disappointed at the organization for not going about business as the other teams in town do. I agree that Liriano was struggling and considerations needed to made regarding him BUT… I had to read the article closely to make sure NH didn’t somehow ship Sydney Crosby north as well. Mr. Nutting, please give the Bucs more $$$$ so we can make it to Buctober.
This trade is a joke! NH and Nutting say their committed to winning? Right! They are committed to winning if it doesn’t cost more than 80-85 million in payroll a year! What a joke! Please sell the team Nutting!!
Yep
Clearly the Pirates see a mechanical flaw in Hutchisons delivery that they think they can fix. It is known that the pitching coaches are well known to do that. Don’t forget Hutchison won 13 or 14 games in 2014 and was the Jays opening day pitcher last year.
Ironically the Coaching staff in Pittsburgh was able to materially imorove JA Happs pitching performance to the point that the Jays brought him back as opposed to signing David Price, the choice of the braying masses. Looks to be a good move now.
So the Pittsburgh fans should give allowances for the expertise of their coaching staff which appears to be exceptional
It’s still an overpay for salary relief. Hands down a bad move. If they only added 1 prospect I could see it.