Here’s the latest from Ken Rosenthal, via a pair of videos on FOX Sports.
- The Yankees will be willing to deal pending free agents Aroldis Chapman and Carlos Beltran if they’re not in serious contention for a playoff spot by the August 1 deadline, Rosenthal says. They do not want to trade Andrew Miller right now, however. It’s also possible they could deal starting pitchers like CC Sabathia, Nathan Eovaldi and Michael Pineda, but they are not in active discussions to sell right now and they could wait to deal members of that trio this offseason, since all are under control in 2017.
- The Marlins would deal Adeiny Hechavarria and replace him at shortstop with Miguel Rojas if they could get a top starter like Chris Archer of the Rays in return, Rosenthal says. From this vantage point, that sounds like a lot to ask for a shortstop who has hit .238/.274/.336 this season (although Hechavarria is a stellar defender), and one would think Hechavarria would have limited value in a deal for an ace, even as part of a package. Rosenthal unsurprisingly notes that the Rays aren’t interested in trading Archer for a package that has Hechavarria as its centerpiece. The Marlins are also very interested in Archer’s fellow Rays starters Jake Odorizzi and Matt Moore, although their weak minor league system poses difficulties in lining up a trade.
- The Rockies don’t seem overly motivated to trade Carlos Gonzalez and have passed on opportunities to do so, Rosenthal says. Gonzalez’s contract runs through 2017, coinciding with the end of GM Jeff Bridich’s deal, and Rosenthal implies it might be in Bridich’s best interest to keep Gonzalez around to increase the Rockies’ chances of being competitive until then.
- The Tigers aren’t likely to make big moves before the deadline, with a large payroll that will limit their flexibility and a number of tough-to-move contracts on the books. They could, however, become a seller if they do especially poorly in the next two weeks, potentially dealing Francisco Rodriguez and/or other relievers.
- Braves GM John Coppolella continues to insist his team will not deal Julio Teheran, Rosenthal says. Coppolella believes Teheran (who is under team control through 2020) can be a key player on the next contending Braves team, although he acknowledges that won’t happen this season.
johncena2016
I guess with Dee Gordan coming back, the Marlins could deal Hechavarria and some other prospects for a decent starter. Dee could play SS maybe right?
Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA
Maybe but who plays for Gordon in the playoffs. Hechevarrai only has two years of control left and is a d first ss. That line in money ball: but can he hit? It wouldn’t make sense for the Rays at all. Maybe for Moore but that probably doesn’t make sense for the Marlins. The only way they get their guy is the offseason and that probably comes with trading Gordon.
kent814
I think his arm might be a little too weak for SS at the MLB level. Thats why he was moved to 2B in the first place
Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA
No his arm was fine it was more of the errant throw issue he never seemed to be able to get on top of he baseball. It was more of the game was was to fast for him at SS.
padsnredsoxfan
Gordon played ss for the Dodgers but moved when they got Hanley. The man can play there but not at an Allstar level. He’s an Allstar for his bat.
Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA
He also turned in an all star for his defense once he arrive in FL.
Acuña Matata
Lol yeah at second… there’s a reason why the Marlins never tried the Dee to SS experiment. It doesn’t work. He was a mess at SS in LA and it affected his hitting. Moves to second and suddenly life is much easier for him. Why mess with something like that? SIlly
Martin H.
I want to subscribe to both ESPN Insider and Baseball America… but is it worth it? Please help me lol. I’m mainly into the that prospect stuff/international etc/rumors etc.. Are both of these for me? Last time I’ll ask 🙂
johncena2016
I know ESPN Insiders can be purchased with ESPN the Magazine, which is pretty nice on its own. But Baseball America is better if you want baseball and just baseball.
Martin H.
Thx, man!
Ken M.
And not have your email given to every disney company there is. With Gmail you can add +____@gmail.com to your email and track it. I still get disney company emails 7 years after canceling.
sirrichard1975
ESPN Insider is garbage
Jason G
It’s true, it’s not really worth the money. The only reason I keep it is to be able to easily generate custom pre-season fantasy baseball rankings.
bheath33
ESPN insider and Mag are not worth price at all. Just get twitter and strategic follows and you will get all info
chri
“Coppolella believes Teheran can be a key player on the next contending Braves team, although he acknowledges that won’t happen this season.”
Wow the Braves aren’t contenders this year, I would have never guessed that.
chieftoto
Wow you don’t have a life, I never would have guessed that.
braves4life1
Yankees get: Julio Teheran, Markakis, and Jenkins
Braves get: Sanchez, Severino, Judge, and Bentances
mookiessnarl
Not seeing the Yankees trading that much of their farm and taking Markakis
rocky7
Hey Mookies Lip,
Not even close…..Markakakis is done and we aren’t that stupid as far as equal trade value…..what king of post were you thinking of.
MB923
Rocky7, it was braves4life that made that ridiculous offer. Not Mookies Lip.
NL_East_Rivalry
Me neither
Brixton
Now I know why everyone was so fed up with me when I was making Cole Hamels trades. My apologies to everyone who was around back then.
That is way too much for Teheran, i mean.. way, way, way too much.
braves4life1
You have to give the Braves something for Teheran….He is a 2 time All-Star under club control til 2019
Sam.rhodes16
2020
Brixton
He would cost alot, but not 2 top prospects, a good young starter and an elite reliever.
RunDMC
Coppy & Gordon Blakeley know NYY well enough that they wouldn’t target the names, they’d sweeten the pot with the lesser known projects with high-end potential, if NYY even has that. Would be interesting for Sanchez and Judge, though I don’t see NYY trading both in same trade in a season they’re not contending (they’re fringe team right now).
One Fan
If Teheran is so good and under control a few more years why dont the Braves just keep him
Ray Ray
No apologies necessary. Don’t feel bad, I did the same thing with Tulo trades before it happened. Everybody overrates their players and prospects and no one is completely unbiased, not even the so-called experts.
alfredog
What would it take to get butler from colorado would you take nicolino?
seamaholic 2
You want Butler?
Umm … sure that would work! Can we do it, like, right this second before you change your mind?
rocky7
You sir are delusional about that haul for the Braves.
Not even close to happening.
rocky7
Hey Braves 4 life1
You sir are delusional about that haul for the Braves.
Not even close to happening..
KMA buddie.
jrwhite21
Was there posts and telling him to kya really necessary…?
jrwhite21
Three*
kbarr888
Since they removed the “Edit Button” (big mistake by traderumors, I think)……..You either have to delete the original comment and retype it the way you want it…………..or you just “add another one” to change your message. That has led to a bunch of extra posts.
I’ve messaged them about it several times, but never really gotten an answer why they got rid of the “Thumbs Up/Down” and the “Edit” option…..
One Fan
Haha pucker up braves4life amd kiss Rocky’s behind
brandons-3
I would think Teherán, Markakis, and Olivera for McCann, Judge, and Severino. Redistribution of cash for both teams (Yankees taking a bit more on for a longer amount of years): Allows Sanchez a clear path to playing time, Braves rid of the Olivera debacle, open a spot in the outfield, and make their fans happy with a McCann reunion (who probably shouldn’t have left in the first place) Then it’s just Teherán for Judge and Severino. Two talented guys for a young, talented, cost controlled starter. Atlanta could afford to part with a pitching prospect in order to push the deal over the top if the Yankees want a little more talent return in exchange for taking on a little extra cash. Trade solves more than a few problems on both sides.
stymeedone
Why does every Braves proposal include Markakis, a player no one wants? It’s not like he adds value to the trade, and in most cases, he isn’t a fit for the team he is being traded to.
brandons-3
It’s to move his 11 million dollar salary. He doesn’t add value, but he’s a serviceable outfielder. He doesn’t add value in the sense that Atlanta should expect a bigger return. He adds value because he can be a part of exchanging money a la how Philadelphia took on Matt Harrison last year. The Yankees could stand to get out of some contracts. In this case swapping McCann for Olivera and Markakis opens up a spot for Gary Sanchez. I’d imagine they’d immediately cut Olivera and utilize Markakis as a regular 4th outfielder. You’re going to have money on the books so it depends how can you best use that money. The Braves did it last year, they swapped the bad deal of Chris Johnson for Bourn and Swisher. Once Cleveland kicked in the money, it was even. The Braves just get the money free a year earlier, while the Indians wanted immediate salary relief so they spread out the money owed to Markakis and Swisher by paying Johnson 7 million next year.
chound
Well b/c the Braves fans screamed mistake the second Markakis was announced. They fans have been trying to get rid of him ever since.
peterosesbookie
Do the Braves planning on making a run before Markakis’ contract is over? If so, why would they trade Teheran? If not, who cares what they are paying Markakis?
chound
Can’t say I care. Someone has to play RF. Not like they have a lot of options.
seckert15
I wouldnt trust Tehran in the AL
Philliesfan4life
Maybe an A.L pitchers park like angels stadium , I bet he would succeed.
billysbballz
That is an awful awful trade for the Yanks. Teheran is not worthy of thst return alone add in expensive contracts. Teheran is a mid rotation arm and Severino could very well end up better with his stuff. Judge is the future RF for a team that needs youth movement. Please Brave fans just keep your ace and stop peddling these silly offers.
MurderersRow27
braves4life1… That trade proposal is total garbage, like not even remotely close to being a solid proposal. The Yankees would NEVER make that trade. And what’s the point of posting the same proposal in multiple threads? Just so you can be ridiculed in multiple places? Try and use your brain before throwing out totally laughable proposals.
seckert15
Agreed. Worst case McCann can play 1st next year since Bird probably wont be ready and Tex will finally come off the books. I still think Severino will be better than Tehran when its all said and done. I could be wrong. And why would anybody want Markakis?
billysbballz
Let’s start making silly Braves offers now.
Red Sox should trade Panda for Teheran!
It’s a fair deal so make it happen!
Lol
gomerhodge71
Gee, willikers! Why not Panda for Teheran and Freeman? Seriously, though, the Red Sox will have to find something to do with Panda next year in the same vein that the Yankees need to try to dump Texiera and A-Rod. The mega-year contracts are going to slowly go the way of the complete game and starting pitchers going more than one inning in the all-star game.
mike156
Nope, not even logical–and that’s before you get completely imbalanced.
Pedro Cerrano's Voodoo
I think the record is broken.
Acuña Matata
Lol wow
dlevin11
Yankees need to add Greg Bird to that deal also
dullchristmas
If the Marlins want Archer they’re gonna have to include Realmuto or Ozuna in the deal. The Rays don’t need another average SS on their team but they’d be all over someone like Realmuto
alfredog
Dream on lol
Sam.rhodes16
Yeah the Marlins should dream on if they want someone like Archer and they won’t give up yelich or ozuna or realmuto. Archer has more trade value than all 3 of them.
Hechavarria as the center piece is a ludicrous joke.
FLMarlins4LiFE
hold on hold on I haven’t caught my breath yet..the rays fans are crazy to think we’d trade ozuna much less realmuto.
Heachavaria plays Gold glove defense everyday. He makes run saving/webgems every single game!
We will take archer/Xavier cedeno for hechavarria, Dunn and a minor leaguer like Cole Figueroa or don kelly or If u want a catcher we can throw in telis.
By the way archer is 4-13 this year!?
Definitely needs a change of scenery especially with the bum a** Rays.
dullchristmas
You’re not being serious right? 65 ops+ Hechavarria, a below average reliever, and a guy the rays designated for assignment a while back for a pitcher who placed top 5 in CYA last year with one of the most team friendly contracts in baseball, AND in a time where the SP market is bad?
Yeah he’s had a bad year so far but his velocity and strikeouts remain the same. It’s only a matter of time before he figures out his problems. Realmuto isn’t enough
mikey_mags
I hope this is a sarcastic account trying to make fun of other people on here. They just signed Figueroa today, the Rays DFA’d him a year ago. Brad Miller is better than Adeiny IMO, he is on pace for 25-30 dingers and plays passable enough defense at short where the offense makes up for it. And Dunn? He is just a normal average reliever I feel. For a pitcher who has all the talent in the world? Lol
Connorsoxfan
FLmarlins4life, did you really use Archers record to back up your point? He plays for the RAYS! The Rays stink! You can never use wins and losses to determine value of a pitcher.
braves4life1
Astros get: Julio Teheran, Arodys Vizcaino, and Nick Markakis
Brewers get: Bregman, Albeis, Jenkins, and Newcomb
Braves get: Lucroy and Springer
Brixton
The Astros are getting completely mugged, and the Brewers are getting way too much for Lucroy.
Brixton
And why would the Braves want 1.5 years of Lucroy?
braves4life1
But the Braves are getting back George Springer and since both Melvin Upton and Dan Uggla’s contracts are done or soon to be done, the Braves can sign Lucroy long term
chound
While they “can”… the fact he won’t seems to be missing from your equation. But assuming QO’s offers may exist, always have that to look forward too.
Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA
Why would Lucroy want to sign long term with no established pitching he’s already state he wants to play for a contender. Bad unrealistic trade all the way around.
Gogerty
Thought we were done with both those contracts? Surely Melvin, but I thought last year was our last paying Uggla. Bourn and Swisher should be off books this year.
brandons-3
We aren’t paying any of Melvin’s contract. Traded the entirety of it in the Kimbrel deal. Uggla’s was up last year. Bourn and Swisher are off the books at the end of this year. Too my knowledge the only people under contract next year are Freeman, Teherán, Flowers, Markakis, and Olivera. Everyone else is either pre-arb, arb eligible, or playing on a one year deal.
jrwhite21
Are the Padres paying Upton’s contract?
bsteady powers
Teheran for Springer and Bregman?!!? You embarrass yourself everything time you hit POST
MLB_in_the_Know
So… Lucroy is worth a top 3 prospect, a top 15 prospect, a top 40 prospect and a top 150 prospect?
braves4life1
Hell take Newcomb out, and give the Brew Crew: Bregman, Jenkins, and Albeis.
ThatGuy 2
Players the Braves have no business trading for: Lucroy
They have no reason to trade for him
PERIOD.
RunDMC
ATL has no reason to trade for Lucroy ??? What??? If nothing else than to have a top veteran catcher to guide some of these high-end pitching prospects we’re labeling as our future is not reason enough. Lucroy is also from the south (for whatever that’s worth), possibly open to an extension, and one of the few premium bats at a position of need for ATL in a market with very few options. Not to mention the marketability factor.
If they sign Wieters or Ramos, they’re going to deal with Boras (with Wieters) and his injury history, plus most likely giving up a top draft pick when BAL/WSH inevitably make them a qualifying offer, not to mention the contract that most likely push $80-90 million. Even then, would you trust both of them in the middle of your line-up most days? I wouldn’t,
Meatloaf rulz
Braves pick should be protected
stymeedone
There’s Markakis again.
mikey_mags
Astros giving up an top 5 outfielder in the AL and their top prospect who is in he cusp of the MLB and looks to be legit for a scout noted back end starter, reliever, and a garbage Markakis. Just stop bro.
chieftoto
So the braves give up Teheran, Vizcaino, Albies, Newcomb, Jenkins and Markakis for Springer and Lucroy! That’s the worst trade I’ve ever seen put up on MLBTR for ATL. They have NO use for either player and would be giving up major parts of their so called “rebuild”. How can you call yourself a braves fan?
aff10
No use for George Springer? How do you figure?
Meatloaf rulz
Teheran, viz, Newcomb
For
Bregman and springer
chound
Nothing wrong with keeping Teheran at all. Atlanta has gone through some massive pitching turnover this year already.
bsteady powers
Plus they are not trading Teheran. Stop it already. You get on everyone’s nerves with that BS!
braves4life1
There is absolutely no reason that any of us can propose or make trade ideas for nothing more than feedback and to have fun. Are you going to police the website?? You sound like a typical yank Boston Red Sox fan who is upset they gave up probably a sure fire Ace to get Pomeranz.
heltrskelter
“probably a sure fire” is a phrase without meaning.
Yours truly, Website Police.
seckert15
Sure fire ace? He is an 18 year old kid with a 4.50 ERA in Low A ball. How many times do prospects have to fall on their face for people to realize that nobody is a sure thing. Especially pitchers!
jrwhite21
Plus the pitching prospect 3-5 years from the majors carries less value to a win now team than a guy with a 2.50 era at the MLB level
Ruben_Tomorrow 2
I think the Yankees should consider doing what the Braves did/are doing. Trade off impending free agents now and in the offseason blow it all up. They need a young core and rebuild the farm system. No need to keep the talent that they have in the bullpen for a team that’s not going to dominate elsewhere. Also, I think they should consider selling high on DiDi. If they can get a return like what the Braves got for Simmons it may be worth it. It would take a lot of guts to do, but they have to develop a nucleus that can compete for years. Just as the Cubs did. Of course, the Yankees wouldn’t sacrifice their pride to tank for two/three seasons. They rather just be mediocre during that time.
braves4life1
I agree.
Niekro
I don’t think 90+ loss seasons will fly in a place that charges on average 50 dollars a ticket
steelerbravenation
Yankees will never do it they got it to justify those ticket prices
braves4life1
Contrary to popular belief, Brixton, none of us here are a GM nor work closely to a GM in or for a Professional Baseball Team. These are just ideas to get feedback and to have fun. There is no reason to get upset and personal over making a proposed trade idea. Yes, I am a Braves fan. I just think there is something to be said for Teheran, a 2 time All-Star, being looked at by several teams for his play and nice contract in a poor pitchers trade market. The Braves do deserve something for him.
AidanVega123
Yes, the Braves deserve “something” for him, but they do not deserve the world for him, which is basically what you have been demanding in your trade ideas.
billysbballz
The problem is your trade ideas are so one sided and ridiculous that you have Braves getting every teams best prospects for a pitcher you seem to think is Pedro Martinez! If you were realistic in that Teheran is at best a mid rotation starter in the AL you would stop proposing awful deals pissing off fans of other teams.
kbarr888
Agree billy………..but don’t most fans “over-value” their own players? The best trade offers take BOTH teams needs, wants, assets, and finances into account. Guys that don’t do that, make ridiculous offers.
Not a “Braves Fan” here……….But Teheran is a pretty decent pitcher IMHO. But he’s not worth most of the packages that are being proposed. If he was as good as he was “supposed to be” when he first came up, then it would make sense. But he’s not (or…..at least he hasn’t been, so far).
Two examples of players that didn’t start off great, then exploded a few years into their careers…………….Max Scherzer…….and Jose Bautista. Neither filled the expectations right away (Bautista never really got a shot in Pittsburgh).
kent814
Hou gets Teheran
Atl gets bregman and 2 20 somethings
braves4life1
Not bad, but wouldn’t you think the Astros might like to take a shot at Vizcaino seeing how their bullpen hasn’t been all that great this season??
seamaholic 2
Viz is hurt. Strained oblique last night. Gone for a while.
Niekro
The trade would be complete before any thing was said after Bregman, Bregman is not going to get traded for Teheran and if he was offered the Braves would not be able to accept fast enough.
southi
I agree. The braves would probably take Bregman straight up for Teheran right now.
But don’t kid ourselves. This ain’t happening.
stymeedone
I like it. Bergman is the type of player Atlanta needs, but is excess to Houston, especially after signing Gurriel. Houston gets the pitching they need, and only gives up an infield prospect that currently has no place to play at the Majors. Atlanta can afford to move Teheran, because of all the pitching they have acquired, and they are not contending yet.
jjdunckley
It is great to be a fan of your team and want the best for them and there is also nothing wrong with making fun trade proposals but some of them are getting crazy these days… They’re starting to sound like this
Yankees get:
Markakis
The bat Chipper holds when he visits team during batting practice
The coffee mug Fredi G. left in his office and hasn’t been back to get since his dismissal
Braves get:
Sanchez
Severino
Judge
A.Miller
seckert15
Lol! Dont forget to throw Betences in there and the Yankees would get back John Smoltz’ damaged ligament from his TJ surgery!
TacomaGrit
That damaged ligament came from a HOF elbow…lol!
Matt Galvin
Yankees should Trade who ever they can who’s a Veteran same with Braves.
RunDMC
Thanks!
braves4life1
Okay everyone, just stop!!! Don’t throw out a possible trade proposal unless you run in past the Red Sox Trade Police. They seem to want All trades to go their way without the thought of giving any of Sox players back in return.
Connorsoxfan
Or maybe just a reasonable trade where we don’t give up the moon…
kster224488k
They’ve been overrating their prospects forever and a day..yea Sox are ssoooooo smart on other fronts…let’s see…trade Babe Ruth, Fred Lynn, Dave Henderson, etc. I could go on for hours..then refuse to sign or even give a chance to Jackie Robinson or Willie Mays because Yawkey was such a racist..yea great organization
jaybee
Generalissimo Francisco Franco Teheran is still not being traded.
Justin 17
I seriously think the Yankees and Cubs should do a trade that involves Andrew Miller and Kyle Schwarber. Here’s why it works for both teams:
1. The Cubs can win a world series NOW, and Kyle Schwarber cannot help them do that.
2. The Cubs need more bullpen depth and Andrew Miller is arguably the best reliever available
3. There is no where to put Schwarber when he returns. Where does he go? Catcher? They have Wilson Contreras and Montero. Outfield? They have Bryant, Heyward, Almora, and Soler. If you stick Bryant at third, where do you put Baez? DH? No DH in NL.
4. The Yankees DH is garbage.
If the Cubs want to, not just get to the postseason, but win a world series, they need an elite bullpen. Obviously a one-for-one Schwarber for Miller trade would not happen. The Cubs would be getting robbed. But what about Andrew Miller and Michael Pineda for Schwarber and a lower level cubs prospect? Yankees get a DH after A-Rod, and the Cubs get an elite bullpen piece and a starter with great stuff, that hasn’t quite figured it out.
Philliesfan4life
I got the perfect answer for that scenario , It won’t happen. the cubs have a deep farm system and they can come up with another deal to get miller without giving up schwarber. I’d start with Vogelbach , Torres or Candelario plus underwood or another pitching prospect should get them Miller. Vogelbach is basically a clone of Schwarber and he is blocked by rizzo. He would be a perfect dh for the yankees.
bsteady powers
Braves get Trout Angels get Vizcaino and Markakis… This is what u sound like
Connorsoxfan
No way! Angels throw in Simmons, Garret Richards, and Santiago, and Braves will give them a bargain and throw in Teheran… 🙂
Philliesfan4life
should the angels consider trading shoemaker? his value is pretty high right now
jeet2ss
What is the timeframe if someone is designated for assignment and taken of the 40 man roster?
aff10
10 days to trade, release, or waive that player to send them to AAA
ronnsnow
From all the comments the last couple weeks, the Braves fanbase have officially cemented themselves as baseball’s dumbest fanbase.
lonewolf
As a true, realistic Braves fan, I agree that all these Teheran for your best prospects is ridiculous and I apologize for them. Personally a trade I would like to see is Teheran a prospect for Reece McGuire and Austin Meadows. Both Meadows and McGuire are blocked in Pittsburgh and they need starting pitching to hang in the WC race. Atlanta needs a young outfield prospect and desperate for catching. Any thought?
GreenCustom24
Not cool. Don’t lump us all in with Braves4Life1… Ha
While everyone does potentially overvalue their players and prospects, the realistic ones such as myself are well aware we’re not getting Severino, Judge, Bird, McCann (with the Yankees eating 95% of his salary) and Betances for Teheran and Vizcaino… But it’s not unreasonable to ask for such things given how we’ve fleeced the Padres, Diamondbacks and Astros the last couple years. Haha
Now, to EXPECT that kind of return is stupid. But yeah. Don’t put us all together with them…
Gogerty
Agreed lonewolf and GreenCustom, not all fans are idiots. While a lot of commenters shoot for the moon, most realize the Miller haul will not happen again. Could we hope, yes. Do we expect, no.
It is easy to look at the team’s that have obvious needs and prospects. I think Pitt, NYY, BOS, and TEX obviously have obvious needs and great prospects, but doesn’t mean all fans expect a Top 5 prospect, two Top 100, and more in return. I like you McGuire and Meadows suggestion, high, but not the moon.
Was glad to see Boston send Ezpinoza straight up, shows where the bar sits.
kster224488k
Apparently you missed Teheran’s start today…if he’s not an ace commanding a boatload of players, then you sir have no idea what an ace is…I guess every 7 or 8 innings everytime out with only 3 hits like today count for nothing..for he’s done it repeatedly..3 runs or less every time out with few hits and 6 k’s or more…hmmmm..sounds like an ace to me..you don’t have to throw 98mph or be named Kershaw to be an ace