The Red Sox are searching for starting pitching help as the Aug. 1 trade deadline nears, but president of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski is having difficulty finding viable options. “This is not an easy starting pitching market,” he said Saturday (via Scott Lauber of ESPN.com). Boston isn’t necessarily looking for a front-end starter, but someone at least capable of giving the team six reliable innings, Dombrowski continued. Red Sox starters entered Saturday just 24th in the majors in innings (760) and 21st in ERA (4.52), though they’re a much better 12th in K-BB percentage (13.7).
More from Boston, which improved to 48-38 with a win over the Rays on Saturday:
- While further addressing the difficult market for starters, Dombrowski commented (per Lauber), “The names we don’t want to trade always seem to start the conversation. “It’s a common thread of the same names that seem to be coming up. But they have come up in every conversation we have, and then you try to get realistic and move from there.” It’s fair to suggest one of the names that teams have asked about is Double-A outfielder Andrew Benintendi, who ranks ninth on Baseball America’s just-updated top 100 prospects list. Given his outstanding production, the 2015 seventh overall pick could soon join the left fielder-needy Red Sox, writes WEEI’s Rob Bradford. “He’s played very well,” said Dombrowski, who added that he’s not averse to moving a player straight from Double-A to the majors. “There’s some benefits to going to Triple-A. I don’t mean to downplay it. But I’ve had a lot of success throughout my career with guys going from Double-A to the big leagues.” After ripping up High-A pitching to begin the season, the 22-year-old Benintendi has hit .288/.347/.497 with six home runs in 196 plate appearances with Double-A Portland.
- Athletics left-hander Rich Hill – who revived his career with the Red Sox last September and could end up with them (or someone else) at the deadline – told Bradford that he thought re-signing with Boston last offseason was a possibility. “I did think there was a good chance to come back to Boston just because of everything that was going on there,” the 36-year-old said. “We had some really good things working.” The journeyman instead inked a $6MM deal in Oakland, where he has continued thriving. Hill has spun 76 innings of 2.25 ERA ball with the A’s this year while supporting that figure with a 10.66 K/9, 50 percent ground-ball rate and 14.5 percent infield fly rate. He could soon end up as the top starter dealt this summer, but he told Bradford that “there really hasn’t been too much thought about being traded somewhere.”
- Although the Red Sox acquired closer Brad Ziegler from the Diamondbacks early Saturday, manager John Farrell indicated Saturday (via Lauber) that he’s second to Koji Uehara in the ninth-inning pecking order.“Koji’s our closer. On days when (Uehara) isn’t available, we’ve got Brad (Ziegler) to turn to,” Farrell said. Of course, the Red Sox are only choosing between Uehara and Ziegler because of All-Star closer Craig Kimbrel’s knee injury. While Uehara did pick up the save Saturday, he expressed skepticism toward Farrell’s statement, saying, “I don’t think I’ve won back the job” (Twitter link via Evan Drellich of the Boston Herald).
Surely a future hall of famer like Benintendi can hit better than .288 at AA. I mean the Braves 19 year old prospect, Albies, is hitting nearly .400 at AA.
So what? Neither is in the Big Leagues. Let him win the minor league batting crown.
You clearly don’t understand how this “prospect ranking” thing works. Its based off tools, not production..
You clearly don’t understand how this tongue in cheek thing works….
I was actually making fun of how over-hyped Red Sox prospects are with no intention of actually comparing them, but now that you bring it up, the only tool I would give to Benintendi over Albies would be power.
Speed-nope
Arm-Doubtful
Defense-nope
Hit- nope
Power- yes
As with most of the nonsense u post here.. You are FOS and out of ur mind..
I agree with you 100 percent bravesfan both cases I would not trade Albies for Benintendi and I agree about prospects, Teheran is proven, how many times have we seen these greet prospects out of baseball in 3-4 yesrs
Can’t compare defense because they play different positions… Hit is questionable, power is definite, arm is the same, take your speed… I’ll take 15-20 HRs, hitting .300, swiping 20 bases with above average defense over 5 HRs, .310 avg, and 40 SBs
Can’t compare defense? Sure we can. Albies is an above average middle infielder. From what I’ve seen about Benintendi, he is at best an average defensive left fielder. Hit is questionable? Not really. Albies is three years younger and hitting considerably better at the same level. Plus he hits well from either side of the plate. At this point I think Albies is a better prospect than Swanson.
And how much have u seen Benintendi?
How much have you seen Albies?
I’ve seen them both. Not a braves or Red Sox fan. Defense goes to Albies. Middle infield always more important than corner outfield. At the plate they are simply different types of guys. Ones going to hit for avg, steal bases, score runs. The other is going to hit more long balls. Teams need both. Depend on what your big league team needs.
Rankings are projections. Nothing substantive. Just guesses. Don’t care who ranked higher as prospects. Just care who performs better in the bigs.
You kind of answered in his defense then. Corner outfielders are way easier to replace and sign than middle infielder.
Please tell me how much power the royals needed to win the ws last year? Benintendi and Albies could both bust but Albies is 19, so he technically still has 3 years for the comp to be truly fair, right? Remember we are comparing a 22 OF to a teenager.
Benintendi is a center fielder with good enough defensive abilities to play any of the outfield positions. the only reason he is spoken of as a left fielder is because that is the position of need for the Red Sox.
Well if we are going to hype up his power I mean 6 home runs is not really driving the ball out of the park
And where have you seen that? In the real world Benintendi is an above average to plus defensive center fielder.
Red Sox Fans love to hype up their BS prospects. Will Middlebrooks, Shea Hillenbred, Phil Plantier, Craig Hansen were all supposed to be Hall of Famers, lol!
He won’t be a prospect for long if he don’t produce.
Oh yeah, we’ll maybe he will help you sniff the playoffs for the first time this century
Yeah, it’s almost like scouting goes beyond looking at superficial stats for two seconds.
Benintendi is a very highly ranked prospect with who has a very decent chance of becoming a very nice MLB Player. That’s the same for any highly ranked prospect, it isn’t bias of any sort. Just simple fact.
Do-Do-Do-Dooooo!!!!
My dog is better than your dog…
For a long time now, the only people saying that the Red Sox have “future hall of fame prospects” are Braves fans. Braves fans, who, ironically, want a bunch of those “future hall of fame prospects” for Teheran.
Braves fans are salty b/c they’re getting ridiculed for proposing unrealistic trades, so now they have to spread their salt all over this site…
Not me. I would prefer the Braves keep Teheran and if they deal him at all, it should be in the off-season. I haven’t proposed anything. So, try again. If anything I think the Sox should keep their prospects because they are going to need to score about 10 runs a game to win with that staff. Especially with Price looking old and Wright coming down to Earth.
As a non Brave fan, I can tell you that many Red Sox fans consider every prospect of value “untouchable” in trades. That is what leads so many of us non Red Sox fans to describe those prospects as HOF material. Get used to seeing those prospects traded, now that DD is at the helm. He has never seen a prospect that he wouldn’t trade for a proven Major League player. While with the Tigers, he used to start the FA clock ticking by calling up prospects from AA. They never stuck. It just used up their options faster. It gave them less time to develop, and less chance of succeeding.
Dude….we’re proposing ‘unrealistic’ trades because of the circumstances involved here!
We DO NOT have to trade Teheran and Vizcaino. Both are on CHEAP CONTRACTS in their age 25-29 years (THEIR PITCHING PRIME). They are two pitchers you build your rotation and bullpen around! All things being equal (they are prove AND cheap)…we keep them. Making a ‘fair/reasonable’ trade serves us NO PURPOSE!
However, given that there is simply no other quality playoff caliber starting pitching on the market (whether it is the upcoming August 1st trade deadline OR in upcoming free agency)…..it’s a Seller’s Market! Atlanta has ALL the leverage here.
So ‘unrealistic’ become realistic……if Boston wants to have a LEGIT SHOT at making a World Series run in David Ortiz’s last season! Their offense is raking..their defense is stellar (except for Hanley at 1st, lol)….they have two top starters in Price and Wright (Porcello is, at best, a #4 guy)…and a lights out closer in Kimbrel (when healthy). However they need more bullpen depth…and they need someone like Teheran who will stabilize their rotation (when he’s on…he goes 7-8 innings a night..even when he doesn’t have it…he goes 6-7 innings a night). The BUMS they have going in their 4th/5th spots now…aren’t even going 5 innings (their ERA are over 7 combined).
Keep your prospects Boston…and you will be at home watching October baseball on tv! However pay us our King’s Ransom…and you’ll have a legit shot to make a run at a World Series both this year and in the next few years (because both Teheran and Vizcaino are under team control until 2020..at CHEAP PRICES). Simple as that!
If he is such an “overvalued” prospect why do you Braves fans keep demanding him in a trade for Teheran? Benintendi is a stud prospect. Nobody is writing his HoF speech yet, though. Anything can happen to any player along the way. Mike Trout could get into a car crash tomorrow and never play another inning. Would he get into the Hall still? Yes, Sox fans do overvalue their prospects sometimes. But, all fans, of every team do that and you have proven that to be the case when you started trumpeting Albies. All fans of all teams have had such prospect love the last 5 years and it is way out of control. Teheran is a solid pitcher, outstanding in the NL East. If a team like the Marlins had Benintendi as a prospect I would be all for trading him for Teheran. That would be a solid trade for both teams. Even though (as I have said a few times already) I firmly believe Teheran is heading down the same path Jair Jurrjens took. He is losing too much velocity too quickly to be dependable in the AL East. Look at other pitchers that have had similar losses in velocity and how they have faired in moving to that division. Guys like Ubaldo Jimenez, granted he wasn’t nearly as good as Teheran but he was a decent mid rotation arm and when he went to the AL East he has been hammered. It’s just a tough division for RHP that don’t throw in the mid 90s with a wipe out slider. Way too many left handed batters. If Teheran was a lefty I think the Red Sox would surely ship one of their top 4 prospects not named Moncada. Sorry, but fans of other teams can only dream of acquiring him. They shelled out $63 million to sign him. So, it’s pretty much a sure thing he stays with the organization until free agency. Teheran is a valuable trade chip right now, but he needs to be traded while his value is at its peak. With the way his velocity is trending he will only be a high 80s pitcher in the next year or two. If the Braves wait that long they will be lucky to net a couple of lottery tickets for him. Fortunately, the way Coppy handled the Miller trade suckered Stewart into an awful trade and he is attempting the same thing with Teheran. The problem is the other 28 GMs know how to value players and are not going to sell the farm for a pitcher like Teheran. Braves fans seem to think a solid pitcher will always net a Milleresque trade. It’s not going to happen. So, scream and shout about Sox fans overvaluing prospects by not wanting to give the Braves a Miller like return, while you yourself are guilty of overvaluing a pitcher who everyone outside of Atlanta sees as having reached his ceiling, which is of a solid #2 in the NL and a #3 in the AL. I will sum up this long boring rant with this question. Would you trade Albies, Swanson and Newcombe for Odorizzi and Boxberger? Because that is pretty much exactly what you keep proposing when you say Moncada or Benintendi plus Devers and Espinoza for Teheran and Viz.
Not reading that giant wall of text.
No, those trade comps are not good/accurate at all. You failed to include many factors affecting trade value. Regardless, neither team is giving away their best few prospects, nor should they.
Bravesfan, I agree with you 100 percent. How many times have we seen the next superstar come up to the major leagues and a weakness exposed and that prospect is out I of baseball in two to three years. If there is a weakness it will be exposed.
Shout out to Ryan Minor, former O’s 3B prospect who was supposed to take over the reigns from Cal and give us back to back HOF third basemen. We had to wait another decade, but I’m glad Manny can carry the torch now.
Ryan Minor was never remotely thought of that way. Ranked in BAs top 50 one time, never again in the top 100.
Ok, so then trade the Red Sox Dansby Swanson, Kolby Allard, and Touki Toussaint for Rick Porcello. If all these prospects aren’t sure things then why not trade some of them for a decent starter?
Stupid comment. Braves aren’t contending for a couple of years, so no need for an overpaid average pitcher. Braves have time to let their prospects develop into studs.
Yeah the Red Sox have time to let their top guys who are almost ready develop too
Why would the Braves buy at the deadline? More importantly, no prospect is ever guaranteed a Hall of fame career, but they still have value and it’s necessary to get the proper return value back. Regardless of prospects’ bust rate, you don’t give up well-regarded prospects for a crappy starter.
So then stop proposing Moncada, Swihart, Benintendi, Devers, Owens, and Johnson for Teheran
Overhyped Boston prospects is all you ever hear. You mean betts,Bradley,bogaerts,shaw,all productive and cheap..everyone says moncada and benintendi are for real..Swihart and Barnes will also play key roles down the playoff stretch..sox and Cubs are both for real and will be good for a long time cause they are home grown and young at key positions..which always to spend big on places they are not strong with free agency and draft picks as well as international signings..
Sure there is obviously hits, but there were a lot of misses for guys who were supposed to be the next league mvps
Every team has more misses than hits, my point was that this whole thread was that the sox system doesn’t produce major league productive players..it started with duquette, then theo, and cherington..as I have stated they have produced players and system isn’t a dud. I respect that most prospects are duds, but Sox and Giants and Cards have done it right, while winning titles..build system with $$ and use free agency and trades in positions you are thin.
Giants and Cards, you are absolutely correct.. They are teams that do it right, by building from with in and then adding 1 or 2 guys in trades or FA… But the Sox didn’t win from their farm system… Lowe, Beckett, Ortiz, Ramirez, Pedro to name a few were the main players responsible for winning their ships!!! They had a few guys come up, but the majority of the players from those teams were bought/traded for!!
Really, Pedro and shilling a trade with prospects, Lowell and Beckett, a trade with prospects..Ortiz a minor league free agent..pedroia, Ellsbury, Lester, Lowe and veritek a trade of prospects sox delve loped for hecliff slocomb..absolutely bought and paid for..point made
Sox have 6 all stars, 4 make under a million and the other is minor league free agent Ortiz and those prospects that got kimbrel..again point made
Will middlebrooks anybody?
Name one publication who had will middlebrooks as a top can’t miss prospect and you have one of those misses..plus he also has a ring as well
You show any major publication who ever had will middlebrooks as a can’t miss all star prospect and your point is taken. He was never considered that other than a talk radio fans. He does have a World Series ring and met his wife here, so I guess it wasn’t a miss for 2013 sox fans and himself personally
This is silly stuff. Just off the top of my head, and since we’re talking about the AL East, I’ll name at least one prospect from each AL EAst team that was supposed to be good and wasn’t. Last decade only: Baltimore: Matt Hobgood, Hunter Harvey. Yanks: Slade Heathcott, mason Williams, Red Sox: Middlebrooks, Henry Owens. Blue Jays: Kyle Drabek, Brett Lawrie, Tampa: Tim Beckham, Josh Sale.
So what, sign free agents and trade for established players only? Anybody can come up with a laundry list of FA busts.
DD isn’t afraid to trade prospects- he did it in Detroit. But he isn’t Dave Stewart.
Not including this year, here is every Red Sox BA preseason top 3 prospect over the last ten years (circa 2006). Some appeared on the list more than once::
Andy Marte
Jon Lester
Clay Buchholz
Lars Anderson
Michael Bowden
Jonathan Papelbon
Nick Hagadone
Jacoby Ellsbury
Ryan Westmoreland
Casey Kelly
Josh Reddick
Jose Iglesias
Anthony Rizzo
Will Middlebrooks
Xander Bogaerts
Blake Swihart
Henry Owens
Jackie Bradley
Matt Barnes
Rusney Castillo
Lots of whiffs here. So far, just 6 of 20 have put up >10 WAR over their career; however, Bogaerts and JBJ should eventually make that number 8. Only two of 20 players that I’d consider “franchise changing” in Lester and Rizzo (too soon to tell on JBJ and Bogaerts).
8 of 20 is incredible 40 percent rate..again not everyone has to be a hit just a piece to a puzzle, middlebrooks has a ring, Casey kelly got us Gonzalez, who in turn was used to free a quarter of a billion $$ in salary..Swihart is still a top prospect, hard to find hitting catchers. Iglesias got us peavy who also has a ring..buchholtz has been quality till this year and marte was a trade with atlanta and not a sox draft pick. I’d say not overhyped at all.
True, but I intentionally didn’t set the WAR bar that high. More importantly, I don’t think you would have lost sleep over trading 80% of these “top 3” prospects before they were called up except Lester, Bogaerts, Papelbon, and Rizzo (and perhaps JBJ if he can put together another solid season or two)
Castillo and marte not drafted..I’m talking about top 50 prospects in baseball, by a Keith law or mlb.com..sox have either kept the right ones, traded high, or got the best trade in baseball history by having Magic Johnson take on a quarter of a billion dollars in salary due to trading of said players. You can’t question duquette didnt do well by trading for Pedro and finding Wakefield, 200 game winner off scrap heap, theo with building farm, trading for shilling with prospects, and cherington continuing the trend with current crop. Sox have 5 starters on field and wright making under a million dollars and 5 made all star team this year. Prospects are are like stocks, sell high, but low, keep for the long term and six have done well with that
If you think that is bad, you’re going to be very disappointed in your own teams top prospects.
That’s actually pretty impressive. One of the best pitchers in baseball in Lester. Buchholz had good seasons before he broke. Papelbon has been a terrific closer. Ellsbury was a tremendous player. Reddick is an all-star caliber player, Iglesias has been fantastic defensively, Rizzo is one of the best players in baseball, Bogaerts might be the third best player in the American league, Bradley is an outstanding player.
Westmoreland, btw, should have a huge asterisk by his name. He was diagnosed with a congenital brain malformation shortly into his career, and after two brain surgeries was unable to play baseball ever again.
I would put this list against any teams similar list and I bet Boston comes out on top of every other team.
Betts, Bradley, bogaerts, shaw, Barnes, all those overhyped starters who make under a million $$ on a winning team..moncada and Benintendi and swihart are for real..Groome the best best pitcher in this years draft will sign..will get international $ back next June..can spend money on free agents where thin..Cubs and Red Sox will be good teams for a long time cause of this discipline and philosophy..with 7 players in top 100 prospects and all those players that have already graduated to big league team don’t think they are overhyped
Yep, they will all be first ballot hall of famers. Guaranteed.
World Series titles is what it is all about, not hall of fame players..pieces to puzzle to win..Sox, Giants, Cardinals, won a lot lately, all have won with home grown talent along with free agents..sox have no history of producing productive players pedroia, Ellsbury, papelbon, Lester, Hanley, bogaerts, betts, Bradley, veritek, Youkilis, Rizzo, etc..just to name a few, all over hyped
They’re all first ballot hall of famers, I’m telling you! Especially considering that some of those you mention peaked and didn’t stay that good for long and others have had like half a season of success.
You remember that great Star Wars quote “Luke I am your father.” Funny thing is that line was never in the movie. Yet every day someone somewhere attributes that quote to The Empire Strikes Back.
My point being the whole all Red Sox prospects are Hall of Famers has basically been a quote or mantra by non-Red Sox fans all along. Sure we have our extremists and frankly they couldn’t tell you the difference between Yaz and The Splendid Splinter. The truth is if you look at the average Red Sox fan, even after 3 WS in a decade we keep the old pessimist attitude.
But every fan base has their crazies… for instance, Every Braves fan who realistically expects Boston will give up 2 prospects that the front office feels good about for a pitcher whose FIP is historically much higher than his ERA every season.
So pardon me if I find your sarcasm old. Please find new material.
I don’t expect the Sox to give up Moncada and Benintendi. I’ve never said that once. As a matter of fact, I’ve tried to tell other Braves to stop proposing ridiculous trades. So pardon me if I don’t care about you trying to play some sort of victimization card when all I’ve heard for the last month was how crazy Braves fans are. And this is coming from Boston fans. Not exactly the fanbase known for their level-headedness and rationality.
The sox have been bringing up players every year to help the team win in winning years. Ellsbury and paps, bard in 07, bogaerts and workman in 13..the system produces or gets other teams to bite on there prospects.
All but one have rings, some multiple..not everyone is Pedro, Maddox, Randy Johnson..pieces to puzzle who are productive. Your right with Daniel bard’s 07 year hard to win, without workman and 20 yr old bogaerts probably don’t win in 13..don’t have to be a hall of famer to be productive..braves fans should know that under Bobby cox and how he used their prospects..but that’s right Boston fans are just dumb entitled fans who look down on others..Boston fans are bad fans who know nothing and just say anything
You’re acting pretty crazy, so there’s that.
Mm hmm. If pointing out Red Sox hubris is crazy then I’m that.
You can just say it. Boston fans are dumb ignorant yahoos who don’t know what they are talking about. They don’t know prospects or their values and are just bandwagon jumpers. They are entitled elites and look down on other fan bases. They are a bad fan base and are just here to cause trouble.
Nah I wouldn’t go that far. They are still better than Yankee fans.
How reasonable of you. We in New England speak as one and thank you.
You just proved the point that Braves fans have been crazy by admitting you tell them to “stop proposing ridiculous trades”. Self defeating argument.
It’s been the same 2 or 3 posters and then people like you come along and try to paint the entire fanbase with the same brush which is equally ridiculous.
Just wait till Wren clears the cupboards that Cherington built the future on. You have them now but Wren is drooling to deal those guys. Already wasted some to get Kimbrel.
Who was wasted to get him?? A double AA gap hitter who is projected to hit at the bottom of the lineup. Or maybe Xander, Bradley, or betts..maybe moncada or benintendi?? So far they got kimbrel, Ziegler, Hill for one prospect in top 100 and the rest are all rule 5 guys next winter and will have to placed on 40 man roster or risk losing them. Dombrowski and Hazen make final decisions not wren
This should be a joke. Margot is projected to be a lead off hitter and potential 300 hitter. I don’t think Guerra is very good. Logan Allen however has a nice floor and 2/3 starter potential. Carlos Asuaje is killing the ball at AAA while the PCL is admittedly a hitters league
Braves fans are well on their way to winning most obnoxious fans of the year award this year.
Says the guy with an avatar of a fight? Classy.
That’s not a fight. That’s a female dog slap.
Yeah, I have to give Boston credit. At least one of their pitchers didn’t throw down a very old man in that one.
But those old men…… they roll like the bowling pins they resemble when thrown.
You mean those two hall of fame guys Pedro and zimmer..you love hall of famers, plus I think zimmer apologized and said he was the one who was wrong. Also before dying, i think the 2 did charity work and raised money to good causes based on that event
No, you’re right. It was definitely a great moment for Boston. I’m sure their fans thought it was a hoot.
Bet those children’s charities, the jimmy fund for Boston and I forgot the Tampa one zimmer picked agree that the incident wasn’t worth it. Make a bad case into a good one. Not a good example
Zimmer deserved that one.. it was just 30+ years late as payment due for being the WORST Boston manager at using a pitching staff and blowing pennants in Sox history in my 50+ years as a Red Sox fan.. No other manager they ever had was as inept as Zimmer.
A female dog slap?? WTF are you doing?!!!
I think they won it 2 months ago
It’s the only thing Braves fans can win, since they can’t win a World Series…
Beginning to think the Braves fans want to pawn Teheran off on us
Not Teheran, but you I’d give you Olivera for a bucket of balls.
Do Sandoval and Kopech for Kemp and Pomeranz. Kemp can man left this year with Holt returning to his super utility role. Kemp can move to DH next season to get his terrible defense out of there and Benintendi can take over. No need to sacrifice the farm for middle of the rotation guys like Teheran or Odorizzi. Could also look to the Brewers for someone like Lucroy/Nelson and pay a lot more. Maybe Swihart and Devers for those two?
Sandoval and Kemp are about even in value although I think kemp has a slight edge because he can hit a little. But Michael Kopech is nowhere near enough for Drew Pomeranz
Sandoval, Kopech, 2 lower arms, and a PTBNL?
Oops I forgot to add a top prospect outside of the big 4.
Kopech is a top 100 prospect with an elite fastball. I think he is plenty for Pomeranz, a guy who really hasnt produced as a starter until this season despite being around the league for several seasons.
If my memory holds, i believe Kemp is owed about 5 or 6 million more per season than Sandoval and is mder contract for 1 extra year. That would likely put Boston over the luxury cap this season so you have to factor that in as well
Sox would need to offer more, but I do see them trying hard to get Pomeranz near the deadline
I could see Shaw, Moncada to Atlanta for Teheran and maybe cash.
Or maybe Swihart instead of Shaw… Or Vazquez??
For the 100th time Moncada will not be traded.Least not for Teheran LOL.Number 3 pitcher for the number 1 prospect with elite skills
I agree Moncada is not going anywhere in a deal for Teheran but maybe for Fernandez, that’s a different story. Or sonny gray
And instead of cash, maybe Swanson or Albies?
If Moncada was in a trade I’d gladly send Albies Bostons way… however Moncada isn’t being traded to Atl… Boston would never do that. Teheran isn’t worth Moncada… BTW I am a Braves fan.
The value of Teheren is all relevant to how much teams want him. The Braves don’t have to, or want to trade him. The ball is in the Braves court. If any team falls in love with Teheren they will have to give up premium talent.
The way the market is this year for SP makes it this way. If a team knows all it needs is starting pitching, it’s going to have to pay big. Gray, Teheren, Pomeranz, the rest of the pitchers that don’t have to be traded, are worth what someone will pay.
You can say in previous SP markets Teheren wouldn’t be top 5, but because of contract,control and stuff he’s going to fetch top end prospects.