TODAY, 10:00am:Â The Giants are still in “active talks” with San Diego regarding Cashner, Morosi tweets, so evidently the market for his services remains wide open.
YESTERDAY, 8:05pm: Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reports (via Twitter) that clubs eyeing Cashner wanted to see him pitch one more time before deciding whether to meet the Padres’ asking price. Cashner got off to a rocky start when he walked Jose Bautista and gave up a two-run homer to Josh Donaldson, but he recovered quite well, finishing the evening with three runs allowed on four hits and three walks with six strikeouts in six innings.
6:16pm: The Blue Jays/Padres game is underway with Cashner on the mound, so there’s clearly nothing imminent at this time.
3:54pm: Morosi adds that the Padres are still discussing Cashner with multiple clubs, but there’s been enough progress in talks that he could be scratched from tonight’s start vs. the Blue Jays (Twitter link).
3:39pm: The Padres are making progress on a trade involving Andrew Cashner, reports MLB.com’s Jon Morosi (via Twitter). Cashner, widely expected to be on the move prior to the Aug. 1 non-waiver deadline, could even be moved before tonight’s scheduled start against the Blue Jays, Morosi adds. Bleacher Report’s Scott Miller, however, heard otherwise earlier today, tweeting that the Padres are expecting Cashner to start in tonight’s game. However, Miller did add that trade talks surrounding Cashner continue, with the Blue Jays and Marlins “heavily” involved and the Rangers involved to a lesser extent.
Last week, Morosi reported that the Padres were trying to move Cashner before his Thursday start in St. Louis, though obviously those efforts came up short. Cashner threw well against the Cardinals, however, limiting them to a run on three hits and no walks with eight strikeouts across 5 2/3 strong innings, so if anything the delay in finding a trade partner may have caused an ever-so-mild uptick in his value.
Cashner, 29, is currently sporting a 4.79 ERA on the season with 7.5 K/9, 3.3 BB/9 and a 47.3 percent ground-ball rate in 73 1/3 innings. A neck strain and a hamstring strain have resulted in a pair of DL stints and limited his innings this season, further compounding the Padres’ efforts to extract strong value in a potential trade. That said, Cashner’s heater is averaging 93.6 mph this season and has trended upward of late, and he’s still displaying an ability to rack up grounders at a rate that is slightly above the league average. His status as a former high draft pick and top prospect that looked to be delivering on that hype as recently as 2013-14 (2.87 ERA in 298 1/3 innings) creates somewhat of a sense of upside as well, even if the 2015-16 seasons have yielded decidedly underwhelming results (4.47 ERA in 258 innings).
A number of teams have been connected to Cashner in recent weeks, with the Orioles, Marlins, Blue Jays, Rangers and Giants among the supposedly interested parties. Cashner is earning $7.15MM in his final season before hitting the free agent market, and about $2.67MM of that sum remains on his contract through the end of the year. Cashner’s name has been in trade rumors for months, and the right-hander has accepted the fact that his days in San Diego are nearing an end. “I know I’m going to be traded,” Cashner told Dennis Lin of the San Diego Union-Tribune following his start last week. “It’s just part of the game, part of where the season’s at.”
landos9
Rangers just DFA’ed Lohse, maybe to make room for Cashner?
chound
“Dong! Where is my automobile!?!?”
Grey Suit
They recalled Nick Martinez
seamaholic 2
Doesn’t work that way. Plenty of time to DFA someone AFTER you make the acquisition.
Grey Suit
I wonder if he would start against the Padres tonight.
TJECK109
In my next life I want to be a pitcher in baseball. Preferably a lefty
jkim319
Ha! So true .. Preferably a LOOGY who can throw strikes at 88-92mph..
If that doesn’t work, the alternate plan could be backup QB in the NFL (preferably for a Brady, manning or Favre type starter… No one will ever know if I am any good)
sdmexicanf00d
maybe cashner and norris for a rangers underrated mid level prospect that preller signed?
amendoza1539
Two major league players for one mid level prospect??? Someone needs to my off the SD Mexican food, it is messing with your judgement.
SixFlagsMagicPadres
The Padres would want more than that if they were to trade both Cashner and Norris together.
Martin H.
Cashner and Norris to the Rangers, for Lohse + a good Class A prospect (maybe Profar)?
Am I dreaming? lol
parkdav
You’re dreaming on Profar, yes.
Martin H.
Yea :/
stl_cards16 2
Profar is not “a good class A prospect”
Martin H.
I was trying to say maybe Profar instead of a class A prospect
SixFlagsMagicPadres
I can only see them packaging nth Cashner and Norris together if it’s to a team like the Rangers. Still, I could see Preller going for another mid level prospect, maybe a pitcher.
notagain27
Cashner might be heading to Toronto with his former teammate Mr Upton???
sddew
Maybe Preller can cover the rest of Cashner’s salary like he did with Upton to get a mid-level prospect in return…LOL, and wish I was kidding…
youknowit
Hansel is ranked mid level but throws 97 and Preller’s team scouted 6 times.
dontknowmuch
The Rangers DFA’d Lohse because he sucked bad. Ain’t nobody trading for him. They also needed his spot for Martinez to start tonight’s game.
petfoodfella
I hope he’s not packaged with Norris, I’d prefer Atlanta to get Norris lol
youknowit
Preller has been collecting A ball SP this trade season.
mrbenster
Cashner, Ross, solarte, Norris for Gallo and Profar ( + a low level prospect. Or not) ?
MatthewBaltimore23
No
Matt Galvin
Marlins? Baltimore with Kemp? Dodgers? Cubs? Royals?
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
Why would the Marlins want to trade for him they are in no shape to trade for anyone. Maybe trade away some players. They have two players. Hopefully Stanton does the right thing and opts out when he’s able to and goes to a good team. He’d hit 40+ at Fenway.
aff10
Miami: 54-46
Boston: 55-43
If Boston’s a good team (which they clearly are), then Miami’s pretty good too (not as good as Boston, but clearly in a position to buy, at least what they can with a weak farm). Cashner makes a ton of sense here IMO
braves4life1
If Atlanta makes a trade for Norris, what would they have to give up? Would Atlanta stop at Norris?? What other moves would the Braves front office take a shot at bringing in other veterans to help give the fans a reason to want to pay $200 for a family of 4.
stl_cards16 2
No one is paying to go see Derek Norris or anyone else they will acquire this deadline. Either you enjoy going and watching baseball and you will, or you only like watching when your team is good and you won’t.
dwilson10
I read something where Ken Rosenthal said teams wanted to see Cashner pitch again before meeting the Padres demands. I wonder if this could mean the O’s are a front-runner to get him and wanted to see how he’d do against Toronto?
thecoffinnail
I hope I am wrong but Cashner is the type of player Cashman has targeted the last couple of deadlines. Immensely talented pitcher that has never really fulfilled their promise. I hope the Yankees continue to sell but their recent winning streak will probably fool Hal into going for it. Judging by the Upton trade I am assuming someone like Clarkin (former first round pick with TOR potential if he can stay healthy) could be enough to land him.
To answer your question, I doubt Baltimore would need to see him one more time before pulling the trigger on a trade. He would slot right into the #3 spot in their rotation. Even bad Cashner is an upgrade on what they are currently putting on the hill. He would be a fit for so many other teams though. Marlins, Detroit, Toronto, Mets, Rangers, Astros, and to a lesser extent Royals, Giants, Yankees, Red Sox (good insurance and would be a quality pen piece). Should be an interesting couple of days with so many mid tier pitchers changing hands. Plus I have a feeling the Dodgers are going to finally make a big trade for a TOR pitcher.
Cam
Not sure why teams would need “one more start” to check Cashner out. They weren’t going to learn anything today, that couldn’t have already been learned earlier.
ray_derek
Besides how he handles an AL east offense on the road. Because you know, he plays in the pitcher friendly NL west.
youknowit
Cashner was playing horrible injured but he was near un-hittable in his last two starts with his velocity a few ticks higher and in the upper 90’s; also seems to have a different slider which is the real difference imo. Maybe teams wanted to see more than two great starts before trading for him; his overall numbers are terrible but two DL stints for two different injuries prior to his worst start followed by the last 3 quality starts. With Cashner being a free agent and SP market super thin, Padres can offer a QO and get a draft pick so I think the price could be high, especially if Norris is included.
dthcm
His next start is 6 hours after the deadline passes. Yeah, they’re able to trade for him but it gets harder because of the waivers..
dthcm
Sorry I messed up.. I read it after his start last night.
JrodFunk5
The Cubs could use some rotation depth, think they would part with Rizzo? 🙂
ray_derek
I don’t think the Cubs want a do over on that trade.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
The cubs won that trade to get him back for cheap wouldn’t be bad at all. And if he turns it around they can flip him for more pitching
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
There is no “flipping him for more pitching.” He is a free agent at the end of the season.
Matt Galvin
Gone before tomorrow. Then Norris or Kemp,Ramirez or Solarte or maybe Ross,Jay,other Bullpeners.
amendoza1539
Would rather see him go to the Dodgers. He sucks enough that we could beat him when he gets there.
yankees500
Think he’ll be traded today?
padresad
Do not trade with the Giants please.
Sincerely,
Padres Fans
Niekro
Seen a few places that say the Giants would consider putting Cashner in the bullpen, seems odd for two reasons Giants need a Starter and Cashner first inning has been his worst all year long. Matt Cain has also been fairly good his first inning so it would seem like he would be the one to go to the Pen.
jwag777
Don’t understand the Giants interest here, or any teams, to be honest. Although he’s given up 13 home runs, so he’d fit right in with the Giants staff.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
Back to the cubs for 2 minor league players
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
If the giants get cashner that makes samardzija the 5th starter or even a spot starter.
CodyGadbois
Don’t even want him…injury prone and inconsistent..rizzo for him was a steal