Clay Buchholz may be in his final days as a member of the Red Sox, writes Rob Bradford of WEEI.com. Teams have inquired with the Red Sox about the struggling right-hander, Bradford reports, and his sparse usage as of late has the pitcher himself pondering his future with the club. “…I feel like the guys they’re rolling out there, I don’t have a spot. I’m the odd man out,” said Buchholz in reference to the rotation. “I’m not sure. I don’t know. Not having pitched in a while I felt like something has be going on.” Manager John Farrell offered a rather frank analysis of the situation when asked by Bradford: “He’s in a tough spot, I’ll be candid. I don’t want to say it’s purgatory, but as far as baseball he’s in a difficult spot. There was the four-day layover over the break. We’ve played very good winning baseball. We’ve gotten starters deeper into ballgames where the bullpen has been rested. That’s where the decisions have come in.” Buchholz’s contract has one more club option at $13.5MM on it, so perhaps an interested party would look to buy low in hopes of revitalizing him over the final two months of the year and making that option look like a reasonable price.
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- Bradford also spoke with president of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski about the process of making several of the more high-profile trades he made while serving as GM of the Tigers. Dombrowski pulled back the curtain a bit on his acquisitions of Doug Fister, Anibal Sanchez and David Price, as well as his trade of Yoenis Cespedes to the Mets last summer. Dombrowski also offered his take on this year’s trade market for starters, noting that it’s rare to see such lofty demand — winning teams are often good because of their starters, which is not the case for several clubs this year — while also seeing such a short supply from clubs that are decided sellers.
- The Red Sox hoped that adding Brad Ziegler would constitute sufficient pen depth, but now Koji Uehara has joined Craig Kimbrel on the 15-day DL. Michael Silverman of the Boston Herald writes that Boston ought to add at least one more reliever from outside the organization. Though the team isn’t without its internal options, including Joe Kelly, Silverman suggests that it would be wise to have alternatives in place.
- Steve Pearce has been the subject of quite a few of the Rays’ trade talks as of late, reports ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick (via Twitter). Pearce has been one of the best bargain pickups of the offseason, slashing an outstanding .322/.393/.552 with 10 homers in 206 plate appearances. Because he can play first base, corner outfield or second base, Pearce could help a large number of clubs, and the remaining $1.89MM on his $4.75MM salary is a manageable sum for most clubs. Crasnick lists the Giants and Indians as a pair of possible fits for Tampa Bay’s slugging utilityman.
- The Rays are in a powerful position on the trade market, writes Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times. With so few options on the market for starting pitching, they’re poised to ask for lofty demands for any of Jake Odorizzi, Matt Moore or even Chris Archer, though the common refrain on Archer is that he won’t be moved. The Dodgers and Rangers are both following the Rays’ starters closely, and Topkin lists the Pirates, Astros, Marlins, Nationals and Red Sox as teams with serious interest. Topkin adds Pearce, right-hander Erasmo Ramirez and left-hander Xavier Cedeno to the list of possible trade options for president of baseball operations Matt Silverman and his staff. Notably, the Marlins were recently tied to left-handed relief help, so they could be interested not only in Tampa Bay’s starters but Cedeno as well.
- The Blue Jays scouted both Andrew Cashner and CC Sabathia for their starts last night, per FanRag’s Jon Heyman. While Cashner is an obvious trade candidate that has been monitored by a large number of clubs, Sabathia’s name hasn’t been suggested often due to his significant salary. He’s earning $25MM this year with an identically priced vesting option for the 2017 season that will trigger if he doesn’t finish out the year with a shoulder injury. Heyman suggests that Sabathia may not be available as the Yankees aren’t yet decided on selling off pieces, though I have to imagine that they’d be perfectly willing to part with Sabathia even if they aim to contend, as that 2017 option isn’t especially appealing for a 36-year-old who has struggled over the past four seasons. Sabathia’s 10-and-5 rights are a factor, though, as he’d have to approve any trade. The Jays would also certainly request that the Yankees pay a hefty portion of Sabathia’s salary to green-light any trade. The notion of trading him seems like a bit of a reach to me, though one can’t fault the Blue Jays for performing due diligence.
TBaggins
Has there been any talk of the Tigers selling and continuing their youth movement? Verlander owed about 90M through 2019.
todda1
Why would they? They’re 4 games out of a wild card and in 2nd place in their division.
Strauss
Stick a fork in Bucholz. He’s done!
BadCo
Buchholtz is with two “h’s” by the way and until he starts listening to coaches your right on the money… He is a headcase that is full of his self… Control is his biggest issue… Hanging pitches for dingers namely.
BadCo
So a change of scenery big time
jimbenwal
Himself is one word by the way
Pedro Cerrano's Voodoo
And Buchholz does not have a ‘t’ while we’re being annoying
batman
Whats Moores value? Would Moore to the Pirates for Harold Ramirez, Mitch Keller and a mid level prospect get it done?
ronnsnow
Ramirez, Keller, and maybe Alen Hanson? Hell throw in Jeff Locke too
jimmyz
I wouldn’t mind seeing Moore as a Pirate, he could be a middle of the rotation veteran to pair with Cole (and Liriano for one year) as the kids settle into MLB ball the next couple years.
I think any package to add a controllable MLB starter for the Bucs starts with their pitching depth in AAA though. Something like this for Moore I’m thinking
Kuhl/Brault/Williams (choose one)
Harold Ramirez
and then either a starter in the lower levels not named Keller or Hinsz (Dario Agrazal, James Marvel, Leandro Pina, etc) or one of the utility-type players in the upper minors like Max Moroff or Hanson.
But I have a feeling the Rays would be asking for one of Diaz or McGuire for any of their starters considering catcher has been a revolving door or free agents and band aids in Tampa for awhile.
Kayrall
I can’t really imagine a scenario where the Yankees wouldn’t bite on being rid of CC, even if it’s inter division, even if they’re still in denial of their season being over.
krillin
I wonder if players like CC perform less than stellar on purpose around trade deadline starts if they don’t want to be moved.
jp08
I hope you aren’t talking about CC… The article clearly states he has to approve any trade.
krillin
Man, there are always downers on here. I said “like CC”. Meaning anyone who could possibly be dealt at the deadline.
Kayrall
“like CC” could be interpreted as both ‘similar to’ or ‘such as’
krillin
Give me some credit here people, obviously if he can control if he gets traded or not, he wouldn’t perform bad on purpose around a trade deadline. So logically it would mean people who CAN get traded. I was just trying to bring up a topic for conversation.
jp08
I’ll leave you alone, but think of the chaos that would ensue if I stated Teheran would only be traded for someone “like” Trout” or CC for someone “like” Giolito.
krillin
No, I agree. I could have worded it better. I just wish people would sometimes look at the overall point rather than nit pick the little stuff. You know what I mean?
TerrifyingOctopus
Welcome to the Internet, Krillin.
BadCo
Yeah that’s the 10-5 deal
agentx
I’m sure there have been instances over the years, though I don’t have enough inside information on anyone to speculate about specific players.
Equally likely, there are players who may be comfortable in one place (maybe with deep ties to a community, children who consider the player’s place of employment their hometown, etc.) whose production tails off whether anxieties such as those Buchholz and Farrell reference are front of mind or more generalized or even “subconscious” concerns.
chevyheston
Maybe Sox can talk 61-year-old Eckersley out of retirement. At this point, he’s still a better pitcher than he is a broadcaster.
Cubs gonna cub
Boom nice
agentx
Good call. Maybe the Dodgers could do the same with Rick Monday and Charley Steiner. Steiner in particular is still a better baseball player than he is a broadcaster, bad eyesight and zero professional baseball experience notwithstanding.
BadCo
Sorry don’t agree… With the cubby fan either
Eric D.
Buchholz would be a great project for the Pirates. Their back end has really struggled this season so it’s not like Buchholz would make them worse.
BadCo
He is a project that needs to have a wake up call and Bucs would probable be a good fit
swaskito
I cant believe there’s a team who’s interested in CC. But im glad though
DrizzyDre5
Pearce and Archer come to the Dodgers
rmullig2
I highly doubt any team will pick up the contract of Buchholz seeing as the Red Sox are almost sure to release him. Wishful thinking by the Boston press again.
agentx
Both Niese and Buchholz have 2017 option years. I believe it’s possible that both PIT and BOS could benefit from an even-money swap, with PIT relegating Buchholz to low-leverage relief until rosters expand and BOS possibly getting a two- or three-start audition out of Niese.
batman
As a Pirates fan I would much rather have the lefty Niese in a low leverage relief role rather than Clay, especially if its an even money swap
agentx
What do you think the chances are of PIT trading Locke and/or Niese, and what kind of return could they get for either?
batman
The PIrates are reportedly really trying to move at least one, if not both of those guys. Neither of them seem to have much trade valuable, especially Niese due to the contract remaining for this year (I cant imagine anyone exercising those options. As a fan, I hope they both are able to be moved but im not sure thats too likely
BadCo
Pay attention people.. Pitching does not come cheap and Buchholtz has a year option left on his contract if the sox choose to pick it up or possible trade it
BadCo
And Sox have a history with Pittsburgh where it seems both party’s have made out well …
bleacherbum
Buchholz remaining salary could be swapped with another contract that they will actually get something from. Instead of just releasing him and eating the remainder or trading him for a low level C grade minor leaguer. If the Padres paid a chunk of Kemp’s contact and sent him to Boston for Buchholz that could be a win/ win for both clubs. Padres get a middle of the rotation starter to hopefully revitalize while they rebuild and Boston gets a OF/DH that is hitting .260 with 21 and 65 so far who would slide into the number 5 or 6 hole in that lineup and slug with the rest of them.
Matthew23Baltimore
That’s not good for the Padres.
agentx
I like your thinking in 2017 terms, but Kemp is probably worth more to a still rebuilding SD in 2017 than what percentage of his 2017-2019 compensation that SD would have to pay for BOS to make that deal.
How about an even-money deal this week built around Buchholz and Jon Jay, with a PTBNL prospect also going from BOS to SD selected on the basis of when Jay returns and how effective he is down the stretch?
bleacherbum
I like the logic behind a Buchholz and Jay swap. Because honestly he walks in 2 and a half months and the Padres will get nothing otherwise. So minus well roll the dice on Clay hoping that you can rebuild his value and possibly flip him this time next year.
To take it even further for arguments sake, you could hypothetically flip Buchholz for Upton Jr. Which both have just about the same money remaining on their contracts and each team gets a little something they need without hardly any money switching hands. Then the Padres would have the incentive of rebuilding Clay’s value to do something similar to what the did w/ Rodney & Pomeranz for next year to essentially turn Upton Jr. Into a meaningful prospect when the Padres are ready to compete again.
Backatitagain
Braves might take Buchholz and Brian Johnson for Erick Aybar and Hector Olivera.
petfoodfella
There is no might about it, Atlanta would do that deal. Boston however, doubtful.
BadCo
Don’t see it
BadCo
Sorry don’t see Kemp in Boston
bleacherbum
Yeah, I doubt that as well but one can hope. It is crazy the turn off that people have with Kemp, coming into the day he has better numbers in Avg/HR/RBI than Bryce Harper does but his contract is just an albatross.
pgmitchell
the sox should get 2 lower levels prospects like they gave up in the Zielger deal…no more!
BadCo
That’s probable an accurate valu
Bruin1012
Clearly Buchholz needs to get out of Boston his trade value though is extremely low I’m not sure what the Sox could get for him. If I was a National League team I would take the chance that he turns it around in the second half for sure. When he pitched well he pitches really well. He is such a head case someone with the stuff he has should never be as bad as he has been every other year.
krillin
I know it is not a typical move. But, If Boston was willing to move him by ATL absorbing most of his contract I don’t see why ATL would not mind taking him on just as a buffer for the younger guys to get more developed. Williams Perez seems to need a little extra time, for example. If you look at the Braves 25 man roster, there are not many inning eaters at all. Teheran has like 111 and Folty and Wisler have like 75ish maybe (could be wrong here). I know Buchholz is not a long term solution, but he could be a buffer with a chance of turning it around. Although, Boston might not care about cash. This could be a terrible idea so please don’t slay me with your comments lol. I just thought I would throw it out there as a possible scenario.
Bruin1012
I don’t think that is unreasonable at all. The deal with Buccholz is when he is good he is really good but has just worn out his welcome in Boston. It would not shock me at all to see him get traded to the NL and pitch lights out. He is such a head case but his stuff is still good low 90’s fastball great change nice curve ball he just gives up to many home runs with Boston right now.
agentx
I think Buchholz’s real value is in that 2017 option, particularly for teams that have trouble attracting free agent SP and/or difficulty affording deals in the 3/30 to 4/50 range for the pitchers available at those rates.
COL should definitely take a look if BOS would pay down most if not all of Buchholz’s 2016 salary given how hard it is to attract free agent SP there. LAA could also take a shot, since they have more TJS patients in their system than they do 2017 rotation candidates. MIN could be another team that could acquire and evaluate Buchholz for a couple months before deciding on that 2017 option.
Buchholz may not ever get back on track, but an interested team could learn a lot in the three months they’d have him before having to decide on that 2017 option.
krillin
That is a good point on the COL factor.
BadCo
Headcase is right on the money… Need a bulldog attitude not a woos
Backatitagain
Wonder if the Rays would be interested in a deal of Sean Newcomb (MLB # 33, LHP, 22YO, AA) straight up for Matt Moore. This seems even value to me but if not each team could include another player to level it out.
BadCo
I personally think Moore has reached his potential yet .. Too short of a MLB life… Think Tampa will hold him and realize his higher valu down the road… Remember he has missed pretty much of all last year with TJ
texrangers
Rangers need to get an Ace! Trade for archer. Profar and holland for archer. Or terahan. Profar and Martin Perez. Who says no?
Backatitagain
Braves would probably trade Julio Teheran to the Rangers for Joey Gallo and Lewis Brinson or Nomar Mazara or Jurickson Profar, Rangers choice plus choice of Jim Johnson or Eric O’Flaherty.
Kayrall
Rays would ask for a SP near major league ready and at least one high-ceiling lower level SP in that deal.
Ranges were would be overpaying for Teheran.
Backatitagain
So you think that the Rays would trade Matt Moore to the Braves for Joel DeLaCruz (MLB Ready) and Sean Newcomb (Very High Ceiling AA).?
Sam.rhodes16
I don’t think they would do it for less than Gallo , or Brinson and Tate, or maybe Profar .
stro16
You’re not the “odd man out” when you have a 5.90 era and struggle to get 4 every start that just means you’re not very good anymore
gomerhodge71
I could see the Dodgers considering Buchholz.
notagain27
Buchholz needs to get his head straightened out before he will be a benefit to anyone. This guy has had nine lives like Morris the Cat. How about being accountable for your actions and lose the whoa is me attitude. I believe when a hitter steps into the box he is thinking, “how am I going to get this guy out on a 3-2 pitch? Trust your stuff and throw the ball over the plate! Maybe he could thrive in the NL where a pitcher can pitch around holes in the lineups.
Bruin1012
I think a move to the NL would be very good for Buccholz I also think he could be an absolute steal if he pulls it together again. Last year before injury he was pitching like a number 1 I have never seen anyone more frustratingly bad that has also looked like a number one on multiple occasions most frustrating player ever.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Red Sox Trade Mad Libs:
“Hi. Yes, we’d like to trade for (insert solid young controllable starting pitcher here). You can’t have (insert pet prospect here), but a package of (insert failed prospect here), (insert spare part here) and (insert AAAA reliever here) should be able to get the job done if you take Pablo Sandoval in the deal. Whadda ya say?”