Yankees GM Brian Cashman says that the organization is not yet ready to decide whether or not it will sell off veteran assets, as Kevin Kernan of the New York Post reports in a series of tweets. Noting that there’s no rush with over a month to go before the deadline, Cashman also suggested that the Yanks could be both “buyers and sellers.”
What’s lacking at this stage, of course, is clarity about just how capable the team is of competing. That’s not only a question of looking at the roster on paper, but also of assessing the standings and the opportunities on the market. Certainly, a big-market club like this one can probably afford to be conservative in reaching a decision whether to give up on a season.
Despite the team’s win-always mantra, Cashman says that he would not hesitate to recommend a sell off of some kind if circumstances warrant it. The long-time general manager says that he’s “a brutally honest person,” but that the information is not yet there to reach such a decision.
New York has found itself the subject of much trade speculation, most of it centering around its triumvirate of bullpen aces. Aroldis Chapman, Andrew Miller, and Dellin Betances all would carry enormous appeal were they made available. There’s little doubt they’d shoot up MLBTR’s list of the top trade candidates if and when any or all are marketed. Another subject of discussion is veteran outfielder Carlos Beltran, who is 39 years old but is cruising along with a .283/.316/.567 slash line.
The idea of both buying and selling is a popular one among observers, but it’s somewhat interesting to hear the concept emanate from a front office. We’ve seen teams pursue lateral moves at times, though, and it’s not difficult to imagine the Yankees angling for a starter or perhaps a position player with control in a deal involving one of their quality veteran pieces.
ODINOSUARUS
If the Yanks trade Beltran, Chapman, or Betances I’m done with them.
ryan1017
Chapman and Beltran have 1 year left on their contracts, and Beltran is 39. If they don’t get what they can for them that would be a mistake. The Yankees need to get younger.
peteralt
Absolutely what else should they do continue to flounder !
srechter
But you don’t care about Miller?? He’s been the best of the bunch. I think he has the most value, even with the contract. Yanks could easily deal one for an interesting piece of they’re in a similar position come the end of July and see what happens. As much as fans may clamor for a rebuild, they won’t be coming to the games if that’s the case. Yankees still have highest attendance rate in the league.
Doubt they’re willing to jeapordize that.
Brixton
Not that I disagree with anything you said, but I believe Miller’s contract is an asset, rather than a barrier to a trade.
srechter
Oh, absolutely. The decision to sign Miller over Robertson for considerably less money looks like a steal in hindsight.
Brixton
But why? They’re finally a team who can’t just buy everyone because there are other teams can spend on their level. They need to play by everyone elses rules now. Get what you can get for Chapman, Beltran and CC. Dangle Miller for a quality young hitter. Only sell Betances if you get a Giles/Kimbrel-like return, and then some.
ilikebaseball 2
CC has 5/10 rights and with an option that’s about to vest, they wouldn’t get any value on a guy who’s only been pitching decent for 2 months out of the last 40 or so, he’s not going anywhere.
MurderersRow27
They could outspend almost every team still though… The problem is, Hal is NOTHING like his father and although he keeps saying the front office will do everything they can to put a winner on the field, their actions don’t back up those words..
theruns
This isn’t about the front office not trying, or the owners not being committed. It’s about the front office not understanding that the game had totally passed them by and they didn’t even know it. Teams got really smart about service time, extending players etc. and it turned free agency into a dumpster fire. And since the Yankees have been nothing short of laughable in terms of recent player development, they are left with what they have. A bloated, old, overpaid roster that is as about as exciting to watch as paint drying.
MB923
“And since the Yankees have been nothing short of laughable in terms of recent player development”
Depends on how recent you are talking. They developed the best 2B in baseball the past 10 years. As well as very valuable relievers over the years. (Betances, Robertson, Melancon, etc). But aside from those players and maybe a couple of others like Gardner and Cervelli, you’re right.
Then again, it’s not easy to do when you haven’t had any top draft pick (not just 1, but how bout Top 10) since 1992. Yes, 1992 was when they last had a Top 10 draft pick. They drafted some guy named Derek Jeter that year.
pocc
Yankees didnt develop Pedroia the Red Sox did..
theruns
They were a player development machine back in the day, but since Gardner, Kennedy and Cano 9-10 years ago they have developed almost nothing. That is almost hard to do, no matter where you draft. They are headed in a better direction now though. They have some talent coming up they need to be patient and do it the right way which might take awhile.
MB923
I love Pedroia (yes you read that right) and I’ll say his D is by far better. But Cano has by far been a better hitter and overall player in recent years. He’s 5th in all of Baseball in WAR this decade trailing only Trout, Miggy, Beltre and McCutchen
MB923
Agree with that theruns. They changed their scouting team a year or 2 ago.
unglar
Robinson Cano baseball-reference.com/players/c/canoro01.shtml
Dustin Pedroia baseball-reference.com/players/p/pedrodu01.shtml
nyy42
Good
jp08
See you later, Chapman is out unless they decide to take the 1st rounder for the QO.
NYC Fan
Chapman will be gone, but that’s fine with me as long as they keep Miller, Betances and Beltran.
Ravens_Last_Place
You are clearly a very intelligent fan.
WarriorsFan302
Same
yanks02026
I think Yankees have to trade for Wil Myers.
jp08
Maybe flip like Davis for him lel….. Ever heard of Greg Bird?
yanks02026
Myers can play both first and outfield. And no one knows if Bird will be ready right away in 2017. So Myers would be perfect to play some first and then outfield.
jp08
Do you know what they will ask for, try a top 10 prospect…. They gave up Turner for Myers. Bird had shoulder surgery, it was stated he could be back for the post season. I don’t see that, but it paints a picture of his recovery timeline.
HalosFan
How would you exactly get Myers from the Pads? They’re not taking anything off the ML roster.
Brixton
They gave up Turner, Rene Rivera and Joe Ross for Myers.
eggy
And joe Ross
jp08
My point exactly, getting myers is a terrible move.
therealryan
The Padres also included Jake Bauers, a top 100 prospect, and Burch Smith.
BronxBombers14
I agree. I believe he is still under contract for the next three years. He can play first and of.
yanks02026
The Padres willi not get the same return for Myers that they gave up. The guy is finally having a good season. Before his he was often injured.
chuckn9ne
He has way more trade value then he had when the Padres got him. The year before they got him he had an injury riddled season and wasn’t playing well. Now? He’s arguably a top 5 first baseman in the MLB
zippy901
Honestly I think the Yanks should trade anyone with good value to the highest bidder. Yanks don’t have a good win now team but they don’t have the farm system to be a good win now team either. They need to trade and rebuild.
Although I do believe that the older ones (Beltran, McCann, A-Rod, Gardner) should be the first to go. Miller and Chapman would be a little tougher and then Betances should be the hardest player to acquire.
theruns
They also should ship Castro out to anybody dumb enough to take him. They won’t get a bag of balls for him but maybe they could unload his salary. Such an overrated player, always has been.
dwhitt3
Yeah. No
theruns
So what do you love so much about Castro? The 2.3 WAR he has put up (combined lol) over the last 4 years? The .688 OPS and 88 OPS+ over that same time? He’s got a 0.0 WAR dude, he’s a replacement player. Oh, and he’s guaranteed $33 million over the next 3 years. Good luck with that.
greg 14
probably comes down to one concept – is someone ready to overpay for Yankee assets? If so, any of Beltran, Chapman, Betances or Miller should be available. Should be focusing on guys like Profar, Baez, Moncada and Urias.
stymeedone
Why is an overpay always necessary? Maybe someone will offer them fair value.
therealryan
The Yankees have little to no financial motive and also see themselves as a potential playoff team in upcoming seasons. For those reasons, I think it would take an overpay for the Yankees to move players with multiple years of control like Miller and Betances. As for Chapman and Beltran, I could see them moved for fair value if the Yankees deem themselves sellers.
Michael Macaulay-Birks
Moncada???? You’re funny
Michael Macaulay-Birks
Why would anyone be willing to overpay? The Yankees have no leverage whatsoever…and they shouldn’t trade Miller or Bestances
One Fan
Yankees are not getting Baez
beauvandertulip
Why wouldn’t they trade them? Keeping them on a losing team isn’t worth anything. Especially Beltran and chapman.
adshadbolt
Trade Beltran, chapman, Gardner or ellsbury ( if u can get anything for them), only trade Miller if u get a talented young player/ players , listen on McCann and like Miller only trade him if you get a good player/players. But keep betances, Castro, didi, severino(obviously), but anyone you can get quality young players in return for do it
Michael Macaulay-Birks
The return for Elsberry, and McCann would be salary relief…at this point they are not attractive pieces
Zack35
I think the Yankees should keep Miller and Betances as they are still under team control. Chapman I would trade at the deadline if they are out of the playoff hunt which is very likely. I wonder if the Yankees go back to their old ways and spend millions in free agency this summer or do they wait until they could possibly make a run for the golden free agent year in 2018
stl_cards16 2
There’s not any TWO players the Yankees could sign this off-season that would make them a legitimate good team. There’s no point in spending big money. Rebuild a couple years and let some of these big contracts come off the books, the strike again.
jmac 2
What are some realistic returns for Beltran and Chapman?
Michael Macaulay-Birks
Boston got K-Rod for 3 months of Andrew Miller, I’d start there
mrjoeyb1
Chapman will probably net a teams 5-10 top prospect. Beltran sadly because of age will get only a middle prospect.
mrjoeyb1
So I’m guessing by “buying and selling”. Means they would like to move on from a few prospects? I’m ok with that. But the yanks are presented with a great opportunity to not only restock the farm but shed some payroll.
koz16
Before the deadline the Yanks need to have a conversation with Chapman’s agent to get an idea what it would take to get him to stay. Even with their pitiful offense, if the Yankees had one more reliable starter those three on the back end would give them a good shot at the wildcard. As bad as they are now, they’re only 4 games out of the WC.
If they decide they can’t bring him back I hope they don’t make a trade out of panic. Make him a QO and see what happens. I’d trade Beltran and bring up Judge. I think the pressure in AAA to prove he’s ready for the show is getting to him. Bring him up and give him a fair shake for half a season to show what he can do. I’d also promote Mateo to AA. Yanks are too conservative with their prospects in the minors and they usually go stale waiting for an opening.
I think one of the biggest issues right now is ARod. If it was my team I would meet with him after the season and quietly ask him to retire and offer him a job with the team. If he rejects that I’d cut him. Whether he’s cut or on the team I’d be paying him anyway. I think at this point the roster spot is more valuable than his production as a DH only player.
One Fan
You want to quietly ask A-Rod to retire and walk away from Millions or you will just cut him and pay him those millions from the stupid contract the Yankees Bozos gave him? Hhmm wonder which option he chooses
koz16
That’s why I said to offer him a job in the organization. He forfeits the last year of salary for a like amount in a long term contract as an ambassador or some other meaningless position in the organization. Arod still gets his money and probably has less of a tax burden as well. But I don’t think ARod’s ego will let him retire even after his contract expires. He wants to pass Bonds.
MB923
There is no way A-Rod passes Bonds.
MB923
I hit Post Comment by mistake…
There is no way A-Rod passes Bonds after his current contract is up next year. The guy can barely hit now. If he has another subpar year next year, tell me what team is going to sign a then 42 year old to a MLB deal to be an everyday DH?
koz16
I agree. I just don’t think that ARod’s ego sees it the same way.
frg214
Trade chapman and Beltran to Texas for Joey Gallo and Shin soo Choo and a package of few arms the rangers have in the farm.
The Yankees get the 3B/1B they need for the future and the arms(don’t know which but the Rangers have some good young farm hands they could put together without touching there top pitching prospect) that will replenish the Yankees farm, as for Texas they get a dominate reliever that will be used for a big playoff run albeit a rental but unload Choo’s contract but get a better bat in Beltran in the outfield. NY also gets to hold on to they’re relievers with better contract situations and still have a good shot of resigning chapman if they wanted too and Texas would either way still get a pick back through QO to help soften the loss of the prospects in a deal like that.
Michael Macaulay-Birks
I don’t think Texas would make that trade, six years of Gallo is worth way more than three months of Chapman
Gogerty
Had the same thought. If Texas were to give up Gallo, think it would be more for a controllable starter, like Julio.
Michael Macaulay-Birks
There is no qualifying offer for deadline deals , only free-agents that have spent the entire season with the same team
T_Rexx2
They wouldn’t get the draft pick because you can’t offer a QO to a player acquired in a trade during the season… Other than that I actually like this trade and it kinda makes a lot of sense considering the Rangers did say they could be in the market for relief pitchers. Moving choo will open up an outfield spot next year for one of their big prospects. And with beltre there for the next couple years Gallo is blocked.
Michael Macaulay-Birks
If Gallo’s bat plays as advertised, they will trade Moreland and move him to 1st base/DH
koz16
The Yankees don’t need another mid-30’s, .265 hitting, $20M per year player on their roster. Choo doesn’t have speed or power to offset the middling average. Getting Gallo is not worth the payroll, especially with the free agents coming in the next few years. Use 2017 to see what Sanchez, Judge, Mateo, and some of the others can do in the show, then plug the holes with the 2018-19 free agents. If you can get something for Beltran and Chapman without taking on bad $20M contracts then take it. Other wise hold.
insane trades
So you think the Rangers are so smart to trade Gallo and Choo plus a few young arms for Beltran and Chapman? A 39 yr old who is one slump away from not returning to the show and a player with 2mo left on his contract. Wow, turnip truck really does go to NY. Hey Rangers, have the Yankees got a deal for you…
T_Rexx2
Have you seen the market for relievers and what teams give up for them? It’s pretty much along these lines…
Michael Macaulay-Birks
No way Chapman brings Gallo, makes no sense at all
frg214
The bigger point of the trade is unloading Choo’s contract. The Rangers would be sacrificing one of there biggest prospects and more to replenish the yanks farm and most likely be able to turn Gallo into something with the kind of bombs he could hit in that stadium. The Yankees got a lot coming off the books in the coming years with arod and texiera so I don’t think Choos contract would be too much to take on atleast he’s signed till ’19 when Harper will be ready to take over right? Texas will get a sure fire closer in Chapman(rental), beltran would be better bat and his deal will expire for Rangers, and as some one mentioned already maybe open the door for Brinson. Although 2017 maybe still a little early for him still.
One thing about Profar is I don’t believe the rangers are inclined to make him apart of any deal. He’s basically grown with the Rangers organization since like age 16/17. I doubt they will all of a sudden trade him. They have been playing him all over the IF from 1b to 3b. Again never say never but at this point it would seem Gallo is more susceptible to being in a trade then Profar.
jp08
There’s only 2 months of baseball left……
frg214
Obviously not my call but I’d be okay with a possible WS title this year in exchange for Gallo. There’s no guarantees but Chapman is as close to a guaranteed S/W as you can get and for a major playoff run that would be huge. The Rangers are already built to win now and for the future with or without Gallo. We all know the level of prospect he is, as mentioned no guarantees he’s going to be a HOF’er but it’s not like the Yanks aren’t in position to resign Chapman if they want…
jp08
I was replying to the main comment, 2 months left on contract…. Lel. Any contending team would love to add Chapman, cost is the problem.
Michael Macaulay-Birks
Cashman is a smart guy, he knows what he has, and more importantly what he doesn’t have
rh04081956
As a Rangers fan, I have watched Jon Daniels operate for several years, and I can assure you he isn’t interested in Beltran, and he wont be giving up a front line prospect like Gallo for a rental of Chapman. They do match up well with the Yankees though, because of the good young prospects they have in the minors, that will be blocked for a few years. Texas’ everyday lineup is fairly young, with some good options coming. I could see a trade of Profar or Brinson in a deal for Miller, but the Yankees have way too many DH types on their team to fix it with any one trade. They have Gardner who thinks he is a power hitter, and Tex, Beltran and A-rod that should be dealt to 3 teams looking for DH’s. Cashman needs to get it right at the deadline, because he is like a gunfighter with 3 bullets in his six-gun. He needs to reload.
BSPORT
Yankees should dangle Ellsbury,Headly, Chapman, Beltron ,Pineda, and see what is offered if anything. It would be worth eating some salaries on first 2 if you could lose contracts and would have money to buy whatever pieces need when market is good. Get some young (ml close) talent for bad contracts and expiring contracts and develope Bird and Sanchez, Judge, Severino, Mateo, and new guys next year. Add a few young All stars in 2018 and the stadium will be back to hanging championships.
killerbumblebee
The first one who needs to be shown the door before anyone is traded Is Brian Cashman. Give me a break!