The following article originally appeared at MLBTradeRumors.com on November 29, 2013. With the recent suspensions of Dee Gordon and Chris Colabello, the subject of PED incentives has once again entered the spotlight. Although the post initially addresses the situation of a player reaching the free agent market after a positive PED test, it represents an effort to consider functional punishments for a variety of scenarios by attempting to distinguish between players in different situations in setting PED disincentives.
Gordon, of course, is in the first season of a five-year extension. The general rule framework proposed below would result in a much greater financial loss than his actual suspension will cause him, which arguably provides a stronger disincentive — all while limiting the skewing of team incentives and market function to the extent possible. Read the full post below:
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We’ve all seen the range of responses to the four-year, $53MM deal that Jhonny Peralta inked with the Cardinals right on the heels of serving a fifty game suspension for violating the performance enhancing substances prohibitions contained in the league’s Joint Drug Prevention and Treatment Program (JDA). Rather than rehash them here, or take a moral stand in one way or another, I’d like to look at things from a practical perspective.
By guaranteeing four years at over $13MM per, the contract went well beyond the biggest multi-year deals given to other players recently hit with a suspension just before hitting free agency. That doesn’t change the moral calculus, but it does highlight that — as MLBTR’s Steve Adams has explained — teams may not be substantially reducing their valuation of a player based on his past usage of PEDs. Though clubs may factor in some negative PR value, discount past performance during periods of use, or add in a bit of an additional risk adjustment, the net just isn’t that great.
Peralta may well have landed his deal because of his steady production and defense at a position in great demand on the present market, rather than his PED use. But he just as surely did not lose his deal because of the banned substances that he took.
This matters most, it seems to me, because of what it says about incentives. Teams’ market-driven decision-making is apparently not going to provide a significant disincentive on its own. And the fact is, as Cards’ GM John Mozeliak correctly points out, “at this point in the game, there’s nothing that says [Peralta] can’t go play or isn’t free to go sign with another club.”
And, arguably, neither is the JDA itself doing enough to shift the PED equation. Like all punitive systems, the JDA sets up upon negatives incentives to outweigh positive incentives to engage in the behavior it wishes to prohibit. As Diamondbacks reliever and union rep Brad Ziegler said on Twitter: “We thought 50 games would be a deterrent. Obviously it’s not.”
This may be somewhat overstated: the shaming effect (especially given the shift in player sentiment) and suspension process seem to be having at least some effect, as most observers acknowledge that PED usage is not nearly as rampant as it once was. On the other hand, Ziegler is definitely on to something. At least for some players, in some situations, the benefits to using PEDs outweigh the drawbacks — even, perhaps, if they are caught. The meager weight of the current suspension system, I think, is the most worrying lesson from the Peralta deal.
Viewed in its worst light, the suspension system creates a mental process much like the kitchen table scene in Office Space. Playing the devil on the shoulder of his would-be co-conspirators, Peter Gibbons seals their agreement to skim cash from their hated employer by dismissing the downside: “This isn’t Riyadh. … The worst they would ever do is they would put you for a couple of months into a white-collar, minimum-security resort!”
But is it really the case that the use of banned substances could, in some cases, present only de minimus downside for a player? Is Ziegler right that Peralta shows that “it pays to cheat”?
In some ways, that certainly could be the case. Players who get caught with their hand in the cookie jar often claim they used PEDs to help recover from injury, not to artificially boost performance. Now that we’re past the era of cartoonishly outsized sluggers, that may even be the most common and impactful use of PEDs. You know, just getting back to a player’s regular level of production and giving him a chance to demonstrate his value at an opportune time. Sure, he may pay for it later by giving up fifty games worth of salary. But the chance to, say, highlight performance before hitting free agency, or jump at an early-career MLB opportunity, can often be invaluable to a ballplayer.
So, assuming that a blanket ban on the list of disallowed PEDs is in fact the goal — putting aside, in other words, the debate on their use in injury rehab — it seems to me that a more thoughtful disincentive system is plainly needed. As a baseline, it is important to recognize that PED prohibition is an agreed-upon rule of the game, and its enforcement is as much about fairness to clean players (and to fans) as it is about keeping dirty players from using to their own long-term health detriment.
Click below to see my conceptual proposal for some methods that might be employed, individually or in concert, to arrive at a more effective system of PED disincentives. These include: eliminating suspensions altogether; varying punishment based upon service time and/or contract status; and utilizing financial disincentives while minimizing impact on competition and the market.
Eliminating Suspensions and New Team Disincentives
The fifty game suspension has proven relatively weak, at least in some circumstances. The salary hit can be substantial, but it is hardly earth-shattering and could be imposed without the loss of playing time. And the Peralta deal seems to show that, at least if you aren’t otherwise viewed as a problem child, clubs are not discounting heavily what they’re willing to pay PED users.
But, suspension does at least hold the promise of providing disincentives to teams as well as players. And after all, shouldn’t clubs bear some responsibility for ensuring a clean slate of players, or at least for not willingly supporting PED use? Of course, at least to some extent. But the current system hardly makes sense.
As any parent knows, timing and context are critical in how you dole out punishments to your kids. Ryan Braun recently admitted that he took PEDs in late 2011, potentially boosting an MVP season that fueled the Brewers’ division title. On the other hand, he served his suspension at the back end of a lost season for a bottom-dwelling club, and did not even see much of a financial hit since his nine-figure extension has yet to kick in.
Indeed, the suspension/loss of pay system can easily have an ambiguous impact on the team. For instance: Alex Rodriguez is the Yankees’ highest-paid player. At one point, at least, that reflected that the team thought he was its best player. So, suspension is bad for the team, right? But, of course, we all now know, subjectively, that A-Rod is but a shell of his former self, and the suspension will save the Yanks a lot of dough. On the other hand, perhaps with mixed motivations, GM Brian Cashman says he’d rather pay Rodriguez and have him on the field.
And ultimately, it may not be appropriate to punish teams if there is no tie between their actions and that of the player. No public information has suggested that the Tigers were in any way involved in Peralta’s violation, yet they lost him down the stretch while pursuing a division title. In many cases, players will reach the point of suspension with a team other than that for which they played when they actually used the banned substance.
In designing those elements of a new system targeted at teams, there are any number of mechanisms to create major disincentives that are not specifically tied to an individual player’s contract or game availability. Loss of draft picks (along with pool allocation), sacrifice of international spending money, even caps on free agent spending are but a few ideas that come to mind. All make more sense as team deterrents than a suspension. In the alternative — or, in addition — teams could be stripped of titles or face substantial fines if found to have encouraged PED use for competitive benefit.
That still leaves the unresolved question of when teams should face punishment. Some have suggested an automatic punishment for clubs whose players are caught, which I find problematic at first glance. That would make teams the de facto PED guardians, and may not adequately reflect the extent to which players act entirely outside of their organization in obtaining substances. Surely, if the league can obtain evidence of a player’s use, it can dig up information showing whether a team played any role in it, punishing any specific team employees as well as the team itself.
Of course, per se team penalties are arguably necessary to overcome systemic hesitation to pursue the entities that together make up the league and employ its leadership. But if players are as serious about getting PEDs out of the game as they say, then perhaps anonymous or otherwise incentivized information reporting could overcome fears of reprisal.
Service Time and Contract Status
Turning to suggestions for a replacement system, it seems to me that one major problem with the current setup is its single set of punishments. While perfectly tailored disincentives are an impossibility — after all, every player is a different person with different wants and needs — it seems possible to make some adjustments that reflect the very different roster and contract situations that players are in.
As an initial matter, it would be necessary to decide whether to slot punishment based upon a player’s status at the time that they are deemed to have violated the agreement or at the time that the punishment is levied. While the former is appealing, it carries the added difficulty of pinpointing violation timetables and may provide a weaker deterrent, since players generally reach greater earning capacity as they accrue service time.
Further, as already hinted at, it is preferable to limit as much as possible the number of scenarios that carry separate punishments, which will aid implementation and help keep things clear. My preliminary suggestion, based upon my proposed punitive system, would be to separate out classes of players based upon service time accrued as of the date of punishment.
Separation based upon service time would at least allow a rough generalization of the incentives at play for players at that stage of their career, which in turns makes it easier to craft disincentives to shift the equation against PED use. (Remember, we are only talking here about players that have achieved 40-man roster status and are therefore subject to the JDA.) And it allows more flexibility for tailoring disincentives without getting overly complicated.
So, what disincentives should be employed?
Effective Financial Disincentives That Do Not Skew Competition Or The Market
As Ziegler hinted, the key may be to hit offending players’ pocketbooks in a way that makes getting caught a significant threat, not just a cost of doing business. Non-financial possibilities exist as well, such as adding minor league options, delaying free agency, or limiting the length or size of a deal that a free agent can sign. But each of those options would have a real effect on baseball’s player market: the first two, for instance, would clearly benefit the player’s team, and the latter would drastically skew the open market signing process.
Instead, I believe that it makes the most to target player earnings directly. There are three key elements that, I think, combine to best align the competing considerations here:
- By keeping such “taxed” amounts on teams’ payrolls, but out of players’ pockets, the market-distorting effects can be minimized.
- By employing an incremental tax rate system to player earnings, it would be possible to hit higher-salary players hard enough to create a real deterrent.
- Providing a longer term over which the “tax” applies for players with less service time would give the system bite for younger players who might otherwise not see sufficient downside.
Starting with the first point, my suggestion is that players receiving PED punishment would nevertheless continue to accrue service time and negotiate salaries exactly as before. Artificial limitations on earnings would have a massive and hard-to-predict impact in all sorts of situations. If, say, an arb-eligible player lost his eligibility for a year when he’d be a possible non-tender, his current team could enjoy an advantage in retaining him at league minimum. Or, if a free agent was only allowed to sign a predetermined, one-year contract, an attractive suitor might be able to take him away from other clubs who would be willing to spend more.
Instead, my tax concept would allow the player and team(s) to negotiate as before, with the caveat that the player would lose a certain percentage of his actual take-home pay. By taking a percentage (at an escalating rate based on pay level), the player would still have the same incentives to maximize dollars, whether through arbitration, extension, or free agency. By prescribing a specific term of years over which the tax would apply and phase out (even if it extended over multiple contracts), the player would still have the same incentives to maximize years.
As for what happens with the “taxed” sums, it seems that many appropriate options might exist. From the fund of lost PED earnings, the league could set up educational initiatives, provide benefits to retired players, support charities, develop league-wide initiatives, or employ some mix of the above.
Turning to the incremental rate, my proposal would work like much like the tax code, with a greater chunk of salary being taken as the annual value goes up. To illustrate with some wholly arbitrary numbers, the league-minimum level might get a 30% rake while a $10MM salary might be hit at 70%. If a player’s annual salary were to rise during the time period during which they are subject to the tax, their rate would rise with it.
At the same time, a phase-out process would reduce the tax over the prescribed term. So, for example, if a certain player faced a 50% tax based on his salary, but was in a 25% phase-out year, the player would sacrifice three-eighths of his salary for that season. In situations where the salary structure of multi-year deals (whether preexisting, as with Braun, or prospective) could benefit the player, it would be relatively easy to average out the value for purposes of assessing the tax. (Indeed, the CBA already provides such calculations for luxury tax and related purposes.)
While my system would require a good deal of reassessment as players enter new deals, and would make for a specific loss of salary that is far from determined at the point at which the punishment is fixed, it should be possible to craft the details in a workable manner. Players are advised by sophisticated agents who can well explain the significance of these measures. And the overall lesson will be clear: getting caught at an opportune time will not lessen the blow. In many ways this system would function by trying to take away much of the upside of PED use.
But is greater salary loss for better-paid players the right approach? In many ways, the incentives are greater for PED use by younger, more marginal players. But given the greater educational, public relations, and exemplary harm caused by violations by more prominent players, there is ample justification for hitting them hardest. And as supposed by the competitive fairness principle I espoused above, the key is in finding appropriate deterrents for players of different contract classes, not whether they are necessarily equal as between those classes.
The last point, then, relates to the length of time that the tax would have effect. By hitting players with less service time with a longer-running term, the prospect of a serious hit to future earnings would enhance the deterrent effect while avoiding a potentially unfair (or, in other cases, ineffective) hit to early-career, lower-level earnings. On the other hand, players that have already reached free agency are in most cases already at or past their peak earning capacity, and would instead receive a steeper, more immediate blow to their income that would phase out in a relatively shorter time period.
While I won’t get into specifics here, it might make sense for, say, a pre-arb player to receive a six-year tax period with phase-out reductions dependent upon their service class each year. Meanwhile, a six-plus-year veteran might get a three-year ramp-down period.
Additional Measures and Repeat Offenders
In addition to docking salary, a new system could also consider conditioning continued pursuit of a baseball playing career on participation in relatively demanding treatment, education, and/or public service programs. Much like the terms of probation, failure to meet certain requirements could result in a reversion to more severe punishment. Rather than allowing players caught with PED use simply to utilize a self-prescribed PR campaign to return to the game’s good graces, this would require actual, concrete steps to restore their status.
One other way to ensure continuing impact is by addressing the issue of repeat offenders. For instance, the CBA and JDA could contemplate a stock contract clause that applies to players who have been found to have previously violated the JDA, which would be added to current contracts and/or included in future contracts on either a mandatory or a negotiated basis. In addition to enhancing/extending the financial penalties discussed above, inclusion of such a clause could convert guaranteed years to club option years if the player is caught a second time.
As Max Scherzer has argued with respect to Braun: “He still has his contract and he’s still financially gaining from this. You gotta start cutting out contracts. I’m for that.” This would build off of that idea. Of course, it would also re-introduce the problem of having competitive and market impact.
Perhaps more importantly, it would largely work by enhancing financial disincentives that failed to work the first time around. There are diminishing returns, at some point, to going after pocketbooks. Depending upon the tax rates applied, offending players might not have much left to go after. And it is at least worth asking whether, if financial disincentives failed once, other kinds of disincentives are necessary.
For that reason, I think that a better repeat offender provision would be essentially different in kind: a second time violating the JDA would result in a lifetime ban. Matt Holliday is among the players to have advocated this result. The current iteration of the JDA already provides a ban on a called third strike, so the players and league are already prepared for it. Perhaps it is time to make the threat of a lost career a realistic threat for those players who have proven unable or unwilling to abide by a baseline rule of the game.
Getthekingtotheseriesplz
My only problem with making financial hits part of the suspension is what happens if you are a guy like Chris Colabello, who can’t even identify where the stuff he took entered his system? Guys that are getting caught recently aren’t doing it with high traces of stuff in their system, as far as I can tell. These guys are as much a victim of the sports supplement industry, and there is very little you can do to effect that. If something is essentially cross contaminated what are the players supposed to do, especially when they can read the label and still ingest a banned substance? There needs to be something regarding the concentration of the substance, rather than just purely the banned substances. These guys are also getting hit for stuff they took during the off season, and there is very little chance has effected their in season form.
Jorge Soler Powered
You’re really going to believe the “I don’t know how I took them.” excuse?
BoldyMinnesota
If colabello is lying, he’s put on a really good act. Maybe it is my BJ bias coming through, but I wholeheartedly believe he is telling the truth. Why spend 7 years in Indy ball and then use peds in the mlb. Why not use them your first year in Indy ball? I’m sure some players do unknowingly have peds in their system whether it’s from carelessness or something spiked, but others before have already cried wolf so now nobody will believe them
Fenway North
You finally make it and you want to stay, you use PEDs to make sure to perform well enough to stay
chesteraarthur
To the best of my knowledge indy ball doesn’t have drug testing, so who says he DIDN’T use them then?
jaysrock
I am also a Jays fan but do not believe Colabeello at all. The metabolite was in his system. That means that the drug was in his system in the past.. It is a calling card that says he was doping. This substance is not something that can be sprinkled on your Frosted Fakes. You take it orally. He wanted to stay in Toronto and not be making a AAA salary. He all the reasons in the world to do it and he got caught. I like the guy but that doesn’t make him a upstanding player.
dickwinthrop
Even if the player is not intentionally taking PEDs and he gets caught for having something unintentional in his system, that’s still on the player. You’re absolutely right that the sports supplement industry is poorly regulated and that some people may be falling victim to that. But guess what? If you know that the industry is poorly regulated and you know that the list of ingredients may not be accurate, then you shouldn’t be taking those supplements. If you’re willing to take the risk of using supplements that you know might not be 100% kosher, than you deserve to face consequences of those actions.
NotCanon
Of course, we have only Colabello’s own word that he “can’t identify where the stuff he took entered his system.” That’s the same argument made by just about every single person caught taking PEDs (Braun used the less-popular-but-apparently-more-effective: “I’m being framed by some lab tech who’s never met me!” argument), including Freddy Galvis, who certainly hasn’t had much to show for his use.
Given the astronomical sums these guys are getting paid, it behooves them to be incredibly wary of anything they ingest. Fortunately for them, they have more than enough money to ensure that they only eat foods, supplements, and vitamins that are in accordance with MLB policies.
Also, as studies have shown, the effects of steroid use can far outlive the window in which it is detectable (see: Egner, I. M., Bruusgaard, J. C., Eftestøl, E. and Gundersen, K. (2013), A cellular memory mechanism aids overload hypertrophy in muscle long after an episodic exposure to anabolic steroids. The Journal of Physiology, 591: 6221–6230. doi:10.1113/jphysiol.2013.264457). The idea that it could have very little effect on their in-season form is patently untrue. Even a brief regimen (say, the 3 months of the off-season) of steroidal use could easily cause massive, and long-lasting change that would dramatically impact a player’s muscle mass.
22222pete
The point on the benefits of steroids on muscle growth long after the fact is correct. Many players for example using steroids in HS, college or maybe those when in exile after leaving Cuba before coming to MLB may have been juiced up and then even after stopping when signed by a MLB team enjoy the effects years later. Guys like Trout, Harper, etc., who knows one way or another. Or Arod having the year he did last year despite being “clean”, not to mention any player in the steroid era who played another 5-15 years after testing began.
Of course, what those benefits on performance actually are we can’t exactly say, especially of so many of the players have experienced similar benefits
Getthekingtotheseriesplz
But if they are taken in as small a concentration as it sounds like their being taken (very small traces in most cases) does the benefits REALLY come out? I think there would be many professionals that would say it’s likely they don’t.
jd396
Being DETECTED in traces and being TAKEN in traces are two dramatically different things.
Mark 21
You cant sit there and make up excuses for a player and failing a drug test. These guys are told what they can take that is safe and wont trigger a failed test. What MLB should do is provide the players with the supplements that are allowed and call if a day. If you fail it was cause you took something other then what MLB provides and you deserve to be suspended. WHat they should do is if a player fails a test they serve the suspension and have to play the rest of the year at league minimum and the next year as well at league minimum. Perhaps this is the only fair way to handle this as teams get hit with the PR troubles and players act like nothing it wrong when they come back. Hit the wallet and then maybe they will make sure they dont take any funny stuff.
Getthekingtotheseriesplz
But Colabello took ONLY what the team doctors and trainers gave him. He did a offseason workout with Kevin Pillar, and he didn’t even want a protein shake from there because he was worried it wasn’t safe.
dshires4
You buy that he can’t identify where and what he took? He’s got team doctors, an agent, and the banned substance list all at his disposal to see if the supplements he’s taking are legal. It’s literally insane to believe that he doesn’t know what he took.
Getthekingtotheseriesplz
Read the article they did on him a few days ago. That says everything you need to know about just how careful Colabello was. The dude took precautions beyond all his teammates. He ONLY took what team doctors and trainers gave him. He got sick and a doctor gave him a steroid, and he went to the the team doctors to see if he could actually take it. The dude did his due diligence and it wasn’t enough. Just because Ryan Braun was a scum bag doesn’t mean everyone else is.
jd396
If you just take everything from that interview with Colabello at face value, great. I don’t. Yeah, he only took what team trainers gave him, investigated everything he used. Do we have anything other than him saying that to back it up, besides people defending their friend and teammate? No, we don’t. And frankly, if you read through that whole interview critically, note that it’s just him monologuing. He’s obviously not being cross-examined – and that’s fine, he’s just telling his story.
Among the red flags for me: when a guy talks about his due diligence and then says he was too scared to drink chocolate milk you can buy at the gas station, that’s a discontinuity in his story. Everyone who has anything to do with training or working out can tell you chocolate milk is a great post-workout drink. But, he says he was afraid to take it threw it away. True story? Who knows. What it tells us is that despite all of his supposed due diligence missed out on some really basic training advice, or the story is constructed in some way.
I want to believe him. When he was here in MN he really came off as a genuine guy who loved the game, and I’m not saying that something like this completely destroy’s ones character, that’s a conversation for another day. Frankly, I hope they find proof that someone accidentally spilled dehydrochlormethyltestosterone on the communion wafers at church, that left him pissing metabolites in March. But for F’s sake, have we not been down this road enough times in the past ten years? They know what to test for, and they know how to test for it.
Go read about it (steroid.com/Oral-Turinabol.php) and tell me if this sounds like something you accidentally stumble across. It’s not. It’s not something that someone would sprinkle on your corn flakes, and it’s not something that you’d get accidentally contaminating a supplement – or even something contaminating a sketchy supplement from overseas. It’s something you specifically go after for what it does (recovery rate and endurance, versus old fashioned building muscle mass) and even in terms of the shadowy world of obtaining steroids, it’s hard to come across the real thing because it’s only made in back-room labs overseas – unlike many other steroids it is not manufactured anywhere for medical use or even for veterinary use. It’s 100% black market. It would take some research and some connections to come up with it. It’s not something that a legitimate supplement would ever come in to contact with, and not something anyone, even a shadowy trainer, would have just laying around to say “hey, try this”.
22222pete
No system except one with draconian measures will ever be 100% effective, and even then, murder does not end with the death penalty.
Any system that benefits teams financials is just a no-fly scheme as the players will see through this and recognize the dangers. The JDA is rapidly approaching that when you consider most of the positives are from players who make almost noting and can’t afford the good stuff or impending free agents/free agents whose suspension reduces their market value or saves a team some payroll on a player not producing the full value of his salary. Dee Gordon is one of the few exceptions in recent years.
We also have o consider the real possibility a player can be innocent. Drinks or food laced with drugs by gamblers or someone with a grudge, or other financial incentive. Also, player think they are safe using NSF certified supplements, but these certification programs are no 100% guarantee. Contaminated supplements are always a possibility as we know well even from food and drugs under FDA’s umbrella.. Some of these tough measures simply don’t consider the possibility, which is one reason many of us oppose a death penalty
I also don’t think we have proven the effect of steroids benefits on performance. No doubt they can help you get stronger with enough working out in the gym, but which is more important, the workouts or the drugs, and does being stronger always help you in a sport where eye hand coordination and fast muscle reactions are most important. Those who risk suspension and health may simply be more motivated and would have spent the time in the gym to improve performance without the drugs. I remember Yaz going from 20 HR to 44 and winning the Triple Crown at the age of 28 in 1967 due to his spending the offseason doing strength training for the first time
jd396
It boggles the mind how quickly we forget how big of a problem this is for the game, and sports in general. We’re revisiting the old “what’s the big deal” arguments again, like “PEDs don’t make you more aware of the strike zone” and “they could have just been gym rats without the drugs”.
Well, no, they don’t make your coordination better, but you hit the ball harder. You throw a little harder. You recoup from a workout faster, you work out more, you bulk up quicker… it adds up. That’s why they still do it despite all of what’s happened in sports with regards to doping in the last ten, fifteen years.
The idea that they’re just bulking up and could be doing that anyway ignores the fact that PEDs enable you to work out a lot more and a lot harder than you could naturally.
Anabolic steroids are a very specific kind of drug and they’re used in a specific way to enhance one’s performance. They unnaturally jack around with your body chemistry and allow the user to work out in unnatural effective ways. So asking if it’s the drugs or the workouts is pointless. The workouts are enabled by the drugs so it’s pointless to try and separate the two.
Finally, I think we’ve forgotten the magnitude of this problem when we’re so quick to leap to the least probable scenario. We don’t need a convoluted conspiracy theory to explain what has already been established – steroids show up in gyms and the more serious you get with your training, the more likely you’re going to come across them. Face it, no matter what they say, these guys didn’t get set up as part of some conspiracy. They used PEDs. They didn’t have some steroids squirted on their corn flakes. They didn’t accidentally take a little bit of some supplement they got at a “pharmacy” on vacation in Playa Del Carmen that was tainted.
No, they used PEDs because they either thought they wouldn’t get tested, or thought that by the time they got tested it would have worked out of their system. They thought it might give them an edge. Judging by the timing, with so many positives coming at the start of the season, they probably thought they could just hammer on it during the offseason and come in to spring training with a little bit of an edge. But, they got caught. “Trace amounts” in a sample is a positive test. It does not correlate to trace amounts of usage.
jd396
If you just take everything from that interview with Colabello at face value, great. I don’t. Yeah, he only took what team trainers gave him, investigated everything he used. Do we have anything other than him saying that to back it up, besides people defending their friend and teammate? No, we don’t. And frankly, if you read through that whole interview critically, note that it’s just him monologuing. He’s obviously not being cross-examined – and that’s fine, he’s just telling his story.
Among the red flags for me: when a guy talks about his due diligence and then says he was too scared to drink chocolate milk you can buy at the gas station, that’s a discontinuity in his story. Everyone who has anything to do with training or working out can tell you chocolate milk is a great post-workout drink. But, he says he was afraid to take it threw it away. True story? Who knows. What it tells us is that despite all of his supposed due diligence missed out on some really basic training advice, or the story is constructed in some way.
I want to believe him. When he was here in MN he really came off as a genuine guy who loved the game, and I’m not saying that something like this completely destroy’s ones character, that’s a conversation for another day. Frankly, I hope they find proof that someone accidentally spilled dehydrochlormethyltestosterone on the communion wafers at church, that left him pissing metabolites in March. But for F’s sake, have we not been down this road enough times in the past ten years? They know what to test for, and they know how to test for it.
Go read about it (steroid.com/Oral-Turinabol.php) and tell me if this sounds like something you accidentally stumble across. It’s not. It’s not something that someone would sprinkle on your corn flakes, and it’s not something that you’d get accidentally contaminating a legitimate supplement – or even something contaminating a sketchy supplement from overseas. It’s something you specifically go after for what it does (recovery rate and endurance, versus old fashioned building muscle mass) and even in terms of the shadowy world of obtaining steroids, it’s hard to come across the real thing because it’s only made in back-room labs overseas – unlike many other steroids it is not manufactured anywhere for medical use or even for veterinary use. It’s 100% black market. It would take some research and some connections to come up with it. It’s not something that a legitimate supplement would ever come in to contact with, and not something anyone, even a shadowy trainer, would have just laying around to say “hey, try this”.