The Red Sox, who optioned outfielder Rusney Castillo to Triple-A Pawtucket following last night’s win over the Orioles, will recall catcher Christian Vazquez from his rehab assignment at Triple-A Pawtucket tonight, reports the Boston Herald’s Evan Drellich (Twitter link). Everyday catcher Blake Swihart hasn’t hit much and, perhaps more troublesomely, has demonstrated a few defensive hiccups, including missed pop-ups and some difficulty keeping the ball in front of him. (Swihart has allowed three passed balls on the young season.) The Red Sox, for the time being, seem poised to carry three catchers on the roster with Vazquez, Swihart and Ryan Hanigan, though it’s hard to envision that as a long-term arrangement. The 25-year-old Vazquez is recovering from Tommy John surgery that was performed on him last spring and played in five games at Triple-A prior to his promotion.
Here’s more on the Red Sox…
- Yahoo’s Jeff Passan writes that the Red Sox could quickly look for a way to cut ties with Pablo Sandoval, who was placed on the DL with a somewhat dubious shoulder strain. As Passan notes, the Red Sox opted not to even bother performing an MRI on Sandoval — a test that would be standard in evaluating anything other than a catastrophic injury. Sources tell Passan that Sandoval only wants to remain in Boston if he’s able to play every day, but there’s no way the Sox will run him out there on a daily basis at this point given his struggles at the plate (in 2015 and in Spring Training), his rapidly deteriorating defensive skills and questions about his conditioning. Despite persistent speculation about a Sandoval-for-James Shields swap (which frankly makes no sense for San Diego), the Padres have cooled on Sandoval since pursuing him as a free agent in the 2014-15 offseason, Passan hears. The only way the Sox would give Sandoval regular time, Passan writes, would be if he loses weight and others in their lineup struggle. However, he can’t reestablish even a modicum of trade value without playing, creating something of a catch-22 in Boston.
- The Red Sox continue to be haunted by a series of deals from the second half of 2014, writes the Boston Globe’s Alex Speier, who looks back at a series of now-ill-fated moves that began with the July 31 trades of Jon Lester for Yoenis Cespedes and John Lackey for Allen Craig and Joe Kelly. Less than a month later, the Sox signed Castillo to a seven-year, $72.5MM deal, and in late November they announced the signings of Sandoval and Hanley Ramirez on the same day. Speier writes that the series of transactions helps to create a two-fold legacy for departed GM Ben Cherington, who helped the club to a 2013 World Series but has seen poor returns on nearly all transactions made from that point forth. However, Cherington’s unwillingness to deal prospects and moves to acquire young talent also left the club with a base of Mookie Betts, Xander Bogaerts, Jackie Bradley, Brock Holt, Swihart, Vazquez, Eduardo Rodriguez and others. And, that strong base makes it possible for the club to survive some of the more high-profile missteps (Sandoval, Castillo, etc.).
roadapple
Sandoval has lost weight before, but obviously has a probably keeping it off. Maybe he can find enough willpower to drop 20 -30 pounds in the next 2 to 6 weeks and that will be enough to get him back into the Red Sox line-up to either use him as a cog in the offense or to showcase him.
Can a team suspend a player for being out of shape and not pay him? Or is that some sort of clause that would have to be included in the contract like with Delmon Young and the Phillies a few years ago? In Young’s case it was a bonus rather than a negative deterrent.
Drewnasty
20-30 pounds in 2-6 weeks? That is a task.even for the most dedicated athlete. Sandoval isn’t one of those guys.
roadapple
You can drop 20 pounds in two weeks by switching to a keto diet and actually working out. I lost 9 pounds in three without working out at all just recently.
amishthunderak
Guerenteed MLB contracts. Why should he give an effort?
cota
In fairness to Swihart, 2 of the passed balls occurred when he was catching Steven Wright’s knuckleball.
drum18
When David Wells was a Yankee (both stints, I think), there was issues with his weight. I don’t think there was any disciplinary measures taken, though.
A'sfaninUK
Yeah, because he wasn’t totally horrible at baseball.
costergaard2
Being overweight cost the Yankees the ’03 Series, Wells bowed out after 1 inning…
costergaard2
Shame too, after what Boone did to “my Sox.” = )
HalElliott
Who could have predicted this? Everyone including the Giants.
pustule bosey
pablo gave up a really good thing with the giants – one thing that sf is good at is positive reinforcement that I don’t think pablo even knew he was getting that gave him the airspace to succeed – not all clubs are as tolerant of shortcomings or supportive through it as SF fans and the SF organization…..
Samuel
They are special, as the Royals organization is.
Baseball people, not beancounters that read pop psychology.
petrie000
pretty sure even the new-age ‘beancounters’ knew this was a bad deal for Boston when they signed it.
doesn’t take a computer program to tell you giving 100 million dollars to a player who’s numbers have been declining for several years straight is not a wise investment… no matter how good he was for a single month late in the season
A'sfaninUK
The old “Lifetime-NLer-moving-to-the-AL-falloff” strikes yet again (for seemingly the thousandth time).
Samuel
Yes, like Rasmus of the Astros.
Kayrall
The parity in baseball is not like it once was. I don’t think NL -> AL is really what’s at play here.
chesteraarthur
Who was previously Colby rasmus the blue jay. Don’t let facts get in the way…rabble rabble rabble
amishthunderak
He has his rings and his big pay day. If he’s happy good for him. Baseball is a job for the majority of players, and a game for the fans.
jkim319
Great point… So very true.
I joke that my Red Sox buddies went from empathic ‘losers’ to ‘we are badass every year’ winners/losers. Strange how winning ‘2’ World Series in 9 years changes fans
mike244
Swihart hasn’t been hitting????
He’s hitting .278/.391 which is fantastic for a behind the plate and hit .275/.325 since being called up… Swihart has hit.
No Soup For Yu!
His slugging percentage is also identical to his BA, meaning no XBH of any kind. He’s also only making hard contact a little over 12% of the time. If he qualified for the batting title at this point, he would be one of the bottom 10 in baseball for hard hit%. His average is due to decline unless he starts making better contact and the Red Sox are aware of that, hence why they are recalling Basque as insurance.
2asandab
i thought a 99 ops+ was pretty good for a catcher. i think u bring up vasquez to see if hanigan is expendable.
petrie000
being an average bat, even at catcher, is only acceptable if the defense is at least average as well.
If you’re not winning games at the plate, you can’t be costing them behind it.
Samuel
It’s probably wrong to dump Sandoval and Hanley on Cherington. As Francona pointed out in his book – Epstein was opposed to the signing of Carl Crawford and the trade for Gonzalez. That was put on him by the owners and/or executives. The signings of Hanley and Sandoval feel the same way.
The Red Sox can either eat Sandoval’s contract entirely or try to trade him by including a prospect or two to get a team to take his contract – as well as the Red Sox playing maybe around half of his contract depending on the prospect(s) they trade. This is the sort of clean-up that Dombrowski has to oversee – right now he has a honeymoon period going with the owners. I’d expect Sandoval will be gone shortly – his being on the roster interferes with the franchise moving forward with their young players.
John Doe 6
Derek norris + james shields or half a season of Andrew Cashner for Panda and 35m of his contract+2 top 20 pitching prospects
Sox get a good catcher and some pitching help. Pads try out panda at 3b and make Solarte full utility would be nice
mike244
Why would the redsox want Norris? They have Swihart, Vazquez, and Hannigen. Swihart you could argue is already just as good as Norris. Vazquez one of the best defensive catchers in baseball.
If anything, the Redsox might be looking to trade Hannigen
rocky7
Come on mike244..
Vazquez has been in the league for 50+ games and batted .240
Your really drinking that Red Sox Cool Aide dreaming that he deserves that moniker of “one of the best defensive catchers in baseball”.
Time defines the great ones and he doesn’t have time on his side.
mookiessnarl
The issue here is the Red Sox already have three catchers capable of performing at the ML level. You can argue the small sample size with Vazquez, but you could have argued the same thing about Betts before last season. And the thing with defense is, it doesn’t really get harder when you get to the majors. A catcher who is an elite framer, and defender at the AAA level, doesn’t suddenly become a poor defender at the ML level. Norris isn’t really a need.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
And why would the Padres want Panda?
Samuel
I think the Padres keep getting mentioned, because Preller! has established a reputation within baseball, the sports media, and the fans as being totally lost. But in this case, I’d suggest that the Padres owners and executives are exercising some adult supervision with the rock star. They would want to know why they have to bring a cancer into the clubhouse and assume years of a large contract when they are in a rebuilding mode and have a 3B in the high minors that should be up around mid-season.
I think Dombrowski needs to find another team. Right now the only 2 teams I see taking the guy on are the Cleveland Browns and Oakland Raiders – and I’m not sure the Raiders are that messed up and desperate.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Nah, not interested in Panda.
petrie000
still waiting for someone to come up with a single reason as to why the Padres would want anything to do with Sandoval. If he’s not hitting in Boston, he’s not gonna hit in SD…. so why would they waste a potentially decent trade chip in Shields for someone who’d just add to their current problems?
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Agreed. Shields is definitely overpaid but at least he’s a quality Major League starting pitcher. Sandoval is just a disaster.
natesp4
Mentioning Swihart’s passed balls is pretty unfair here. Two of the three came while catching a knuckleballer. Same goes for the majority of his blocking issues.
The bit about foul balls is fair though. He’s had trouble locating the ball in the air in time to get under it.
The Morning After Pillar
I agree that it’s hard to blame Swihart for those passed balls. Wright’s knuckleball was dancing all over that game
southpaw777
Swihart is not a good defensive catcher…yet. He stabs and tries to backhand everthing instead of just letting it hit his body and land in front of him. Hes not a very good framer yet and he hasnt caught long enough to make pitchers comfortable calling a game. Really, the kids only been catching full time since he became a pro, whereas Vaz had a catchers mit coming out of the womb. Also, Vaz will hit good enough. Probably not as good as Swi, but more the 260-70ba. He wont be a black hole in the lineup and he will make the staff better…
Sending BS back to AAA to work on his D and the other stuff mentioned is the right choice. Get him all the time behind the plate. Vaz needs to be back here.
Another possibility? Swihart as a headliner in a deal that gets the Sox another young starter, which they need if they have playoff aspirations….
notthatcatfish
Definitely an interesting legacy for Cherington. After Shaw was named starting 3B, 6 of the 8 starting position players are now home grown. Not all of those are Cherington’s responsibility, but kudos to holding onto a solid base.
jtm2889
It is an interesting legacy for Cheringnton, but because of the WS in ’13 instead of the prospects that he “left behind”. The ironic thing is, almost all of these young players are Epstein’s guys, not Cherington’s. JBJ, Betts, Shaw, Bogaerts, Pedroia, Swihart, and Vazquez all signed or drafted by Theo. Ben on the other hand, is responsible for Holt, Castillo, Sandoval, Ramirez, Hanigan, Porcello, Kelly, Rodriguez, etc. I didn’t like how Cherington intimated that 2012 was Epstein’s fault but that he wouldn’t trade any of our prospects, who were Epstein’s guys, so as not to jeopardize the future of the franchise. Can’t have it both ways. All in all, the LA trade was amazing and the players that Ben signed for the 2013 season were great, but other than that literally all of his other moves were awful.
notthatcatfish
I agree. Not trading talent is certainly different than bringing talent in. Theo got the best ones in and Cherington swung and missed with the exception of the 2013 FAs. (Even the LA trade prospects didn’t pan out, although like I said below they turned into Carson Smith, which may end up very good.)
GR13
You could argue that all 8 of them are homegrown. Betts, Bogaerts, Shaw, Pedroia, Bradley Jr., Swihart/Vazquez, Holt came as a mid-tier prospect and flourished with the team, and Hanley was once the top prospect in the Sox system.
notthatcatfish
Totally – I was being as conservative as I could w/ the 6/8 but yeah, Hanley was certainly one of their premier prospects and Holt came into his own with the Red Sox. I figured because Hanley wouldn’t be here if not for the FA contract and Holt was technically brought in through a trade that was not a prospect swap, I’d go conservative.
But you can give the Sox system credit for developing all 8 for sure – Hanley was mostly developed here before going pro, and Holt was elevated here for sure.
And yeah, holding onto prospects is important, but if that’s the bulk of Cherington’s legacy then I agree that it’s nothing to write home about. LA trade was certainly amazing at the time, although I haven’t explored it now years later to see how it played out over the long term. I know they took a lot of $$ but AG has been good and CC’s $$ was HUGE, but the big $$ spent by the Red Sox since then on Rusney, Hanley, and Pablo hasn’t exactly provided that more production than CC and AG would have… I still think it’s too soon to tell, but I haven’t been incredibly impresses with what the Red Sox did since that trade with the money they saved. The 2 headlining prospects didn’t work out too well here, but did turn into Miley, who turned into Carson Smith.
Anyhow, yeah the LA trade was great at the time and there’s only so far you can go with connecting dots with who turned into whom (if Miley wasn’t here, they could have still gotten Carson Smith w/ another player, for example).
And the 2013 team was a great group of guys.
But 2 or 3 last-place finishes with a miracle or coincidence team is not too impressive.
@kylerobizzle
Is ticklemyballs bigpapi4ever’s new moniker?
costergaard2
I don’t know. Has he tried to trade JBJ for Trout and Pujols ?
mike156
The discussion is a little bit bi-polar.
Panda isn’t worth anything right now–he has substantial negative value–and Red Sox fans want him gone, but he should be traded for Shields, who has actual value? I don’t understand that deal at all from a SD perspective. Or Shields and Norris (bWAR of 3.0 and 2.5 over that last two years) for most of Panda’s contract, plus a couple of unnamed 20’s range pitching prospects? Why would SD do that at all? Or, Norris isn’t good enough because the Sox already have two future Hall of Fame catchers on their roster? Sox management has been very smart, built up an excellent farm system, with a lot of talent. Yes, they have made some mistakes, but they are mostly mistakes that can be made up with money. Panda is one that they are going to need some help on, like the LA trade that bailed out previous management. Or, they can just eat the $, just as they are doing right now with Castillo. Speaking as a Yankees fan, I wish they had the Red Sox’s problems.
Meow Meow
I remember when everyone here was harping on me for criticizing the 2014 deadline trades of Lester and Lackey. At least I get to say “I told you so,” but I’d rather just have more optimism.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
How did the Lester and Lackey trades hurt the Sox?
petrie000
because they got nothing of any long-term or short-term value for either of them? and didn’t even use the money they ‘saved’ on anyone who’s had an impact yet?
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
For Lester they got Cespedes who they then traded for Porcello who they then (in an unrelated move) gave an extension he didn’t deserve. Not sure who they got for Lackey and how they have played. Either way, Lester and Lackey were both about to leave anyway (Lester at the end of the season, Lackey after the following season) so the Red Sox should be happy to have gotten anything at all for either of them.
mookiessnarl
Not really. If they didn’t get something that would be equal to a sandwich pick for them, they would have been better off making them a QO and letting them walk. FWIW, they got Joe Kelly and Allen Craig for Lackey.
vinscully16
Lester wanted to stay. In my opinion, not signing Lester is inexcusable. Price-Lester would be a great 1-2. Cherington got lucky in 2013.
petrie000
they got 3 months of Cespedes and finished under .500. there’s no way you can argue that was a quality acquisition. . He wasn’t the reason they lost, but he certainly didn’t help them win anything either. it gets even harder to justify if you wanna make the assertion it was effectively Lester for Porcello at 75% of Lester’s salary
and the return they got for Lackey is either on the bench or should be relegated to the bullpen, so that’s not exactly a good trade by any standard.
any time a team nets nothing in return for it’s trade assets, it gets hurt.
oak87
At the time of the trades Kelly, Craig, and Porcello were fairly young and showed pretty good potential. The two pitchers still have as recently as last year both of them went on decent hot streaks. It’s easy to look back at all this now and say it was stupid to make the trades but who knew then?
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Silly rabbit, if he wanted to stay so much he would have re-signed with the Sox in the 2014-15 offseason. The Cubs offered him way more money. He would have taken that offer from them even if the Sox hadn’t traded him.
tinyredmachine
What bothers me is the fact that baseball players sign for these huge amounts of money then fail to live up to their side of the bargain, If you sign a contract to play baseball then it is your job to keep in shape well enough to do your job, If a jockey suddenly gains 50 lbs can he be upset that he is not getting anyone to employ him? Pablo signed a contract to play, he has no one to blame but himself for being so out of shape. Have some personal pride and start working out. Otherwise give them back their money and leave. No, he’s going to sit there on the bench like an overweight mascot and take their money because he thinks he deserves it. No personal pride. That’s why these huge long term contracts don’t work out. What you make should be based on your production from last year. and if you don’t like what they pay then go find other employment.
Bunch of entitled babies. Pablo, you are not Kirby Puckett, or David Wells, or any other hefty guy who played the sport. Grow up, lose some weight and prove me wrong.
davidcoonce74
Sandoval was fat in 2014 and played well for SF. If Boston ate most of his contract and took on a bad contract like Shields’ in return I might bite if I’m the Padres. Sandoval isn’t that old yet and the Padres don’t really have a third baseman or first baseman. But, yeah, I guess conditioning will always be the struggle for him.
vinscully16
Sandoval is lazy and undisciplined, I have no sympathy for Pablo – at all. His one offseason job, a six month effort, was to get in shape. Clearly, the Panda chose to ignore his duty. Pablo has nobody to blame but himself. Good on Dombrowski for taking a stand.