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Dodgers’ Deal For Chapman Not Yet Complete

By Steve Adams | December 7, 2015 at 2:33pm CDT

2:33pm: ESPN’s Jayson Stark tweets that the Reds are now telling other clubs no trade for Chapman has been agreed upon. Stark certainly implies that the Dodgers believed a trade to be done, adding: “I don’t think [the] Dodgers agree.”

2:13pm: The trade is not yet finished, according to MLB.com’s Mark Sheldon (links to Twitter). Not only that, but Sheldon hears that there are other clubs involved who could swoop in and acquire Chapman at the last minute.

11:11am: Peraza’s name did indeed come up in talks between the Dodgers and Reds, tweets Heyman, although he’s yet to confirm if Peraza is indeed heading to Cincinnati in the deal. If that’s the case, he notes, the club could escalate its efforts to deal Brandon Phillips.

9:33am: Jon Heyman of CBS Sports tweets that none of Julio Urias, Corey Seager or Jose De Leon are headed to the Reds in the trade. The Dodgers, though, have plenty of other enticing prospects in their ranks, notably including right-hander Grant Holmes and infielder Jose Peraza as fellow top 100 types (though those names are my own speculation).

9:27am: The Dodgers have struck a deal to acquire one of the game’s most elite bullpen arms, Aroldis Chapman, from the Reds in exchange for a pair of prospects, reports Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (via Twitter). Rosenthal adds that the Dodgers’ plan is to keep both Chapman and Kenley Jansen, who instantly team to become one of the game’s most dominant late-inning duos (if not the most dominant late-inning duo). The trade is pending medical reviews.

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Chapman, 27, enjoyed yet another incredible season in 2015, working to a 1.63 ERA with 15.7 K/9, 4.5 BB/9 and a 37.1 percent ground-ball rate. Over the past four seasons in Cincinnati, the Cuban-born phenom has delivered an astounding 1.90 ERA while averaging 16.1 strikeouts and 3.8 walks per nine innings to go along with an average of 36 saves per season. Chapman, of course, is known for his blistering fastball; the left-hander averaged 100.3 mph on his heater in 2014 and followed that up with a similarly incredulous 99.5 mph average this past season.

The Dodgers recently lost on on retaining Zack Greinke, when the division-rival Diamondbacks made an absolutely stunning push at the eleventh hour and signed him for an unprecedented six-year, $206.5MM sum. The following day, one of L.A.’s fallback plans, Jeff Samardzija, landed a five-year, $90MM contract with yet another division rival, the Giants. Some, then, may consider this move to be somewhat reactionary in nature, though the Dodgers’ interest in Chapman predates both of their division rivals’ acquisitions. Los Angeles, too, has since added to its rotation, bringing in Hisashi Iwakuma on a reported three-year, $45MM contract.

While the sting of losing Greinke is notable, adding Chapman to pair with Jansen will significantly shorten the necessary workload for most of the Dodgers’ rotation, as the team now boasts a pair of arms — one left-handed and one right-handed — that routinely average more than 13 strikeouts per nine innings.

Chapman, like Jansen, is a free agent following the 2016 season, making him a one-year rental, at least for the time being. While both relievers are one characteristically strong season away from a strong case to break Jonathan Papelbon’s record four-year, $50MM contract for a reliever, if there’s any club that has the financial firepower to persuade one of those arms to forego free agency in lieu of an early contract extension, it’s the Dodgers. Should both pitchers reach the open market next winter, I’d wager that both will be easy calls to receive and reject the qualifying offer in search of that record-setting deal. That scenario would set the Dodgers up to acquire a pair of compensatory picks at the end of the first round in the 2017 draft.

Even with Chapman on board, one would imagine that the highly active Dodgers will still be open to adding further relief help. And, of course, more rotation stability will still be an area of focus for president of baseball operations Andrew Friedman and the rest of the team’s front office. Behind Clayton Kershaw and the recently added Iwakuma (assuming his deal is finalized), the Dodgers currently figure to deploy Brett Anderson, Alex Wood and Mike Bolsinger. Hyun-ji Ryu’s arm is a question mark after missing 2015 due to shoulder injuries, and it’s not clear when, exactly Brandon McCarthy will be ready to return from Tommy John surgery.

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170 Comments

  1. Gardner_012

    10 years ago

    Ughhhhhh no why why why

    Reply
    • Joe McMahon

      10 years ago

      Barnes and Bellinger might be involved. MAYBE Holmes. I would be surprised if Seager, Urias, De Leon, Pederson or Peraza were involved.

      Reply
      • Joe McMahon

        10 years ago

        Opps, that wasn’t supposed to be in response to your thing.

        Reply
      • John Murray

        10 years ago

        The way the Reds have been talking, I can’t imagine the Dodgers can get Chapman without giving up at LEAST one of them….maybe two, if one’s not Seager or Urias.

        Reply
        • vailb

          10 years ago

          For a one-year rental? Not going to happen.

          Reply
    • williamg

      10 years ago

      Why not

      Reply
  2. onlyringsmatter

    10 years ago

    I wonder who they traded.Good move by the Dodgers

    Reply
    • Blah blah blah

      10 years ago

      You contradicted yourself

      Reply
  3. Eric D.

    10 years ago

    Lets see how foolish dombrowski looks compared to this deal

    Reply
    • parkdav

      10 years ago

      Remember Kimbrel is with Sox for 3 years. Chapman would have been just 1. But yeah, still think Sox payed too much for Kimbrel.

      Reply
      • onlyringsmatter

        10 years ago

        people keep saying that.Still not true

        Reply
        • seamaholic 2

          10 years ago

          What’s not true?

          Reply
        • Eric D.

          10 years ago

          Margot was arguably the best all around prospect in the Sox system. He could have easily drawn Tyson Ross by himself. But they ask for Kimbrel?

          Reply
          • aprogie

            10 years ago

            not true at all. Dombrowski obviously would have done that if it was available… you dont think he looked? he probably checked around with everyone and took what he thought was the best deal.

            Reply
          • Eric D.

            10 years ago

            doubt it, because Dombrowski only cares about name value, not actual value. No casual Boston fan knows who Tyson Ross is, but most everybody knows who Craig Kimbrel is. He also knew he wanted David Price. He probably just accepted the Padres first offer and went with it.

            Reply
          • onlyringsmatter

            10 years ago

            Let’s not overrate Margot.Please stop just stop talking about our farm system in that way.Margot was not even top 5 in talent

            Reply
          • Eric D.

            10 years ago

            Even if he isn’t top 5, the ranking doesn’t matter. the talent is what matters. You shouldn’t just give away prospects because you have them.

            Reply
          • callinec

            10 years ago

            WRong! Margot is not the top talent in the Red Sox system. And there is NO WAY he would have returned Tyson Ross. The Red Sox would have jumped on that so fast.

            Reply
          • bruinsfan94 2

            10 years ago

            There is no evidence what you are saying is true at all. There has been no information that Margot could have brought back Ross. It doesn’t make sense. Margot has no where near the talent that Devers, Moncada, and Benintendi have..

            Reply
          • doublehans

            10 years ago

            Margot the best prospect in the sox system? Wow. A lot of baseball people don’t even think he was the best prospect in that Kimbrel trade. Guerra being better. The Red Sox kept their top 4 specs and still got an elite closer controlled for a few years. (And there was NO chance Margot was getting Ross, lol)

            Reply
    • A'sfaninUK

      10 years ago

      Puh-leeze, 3 years of Kimbrel vs 1 of Chapman absolutely cannot be comp’d.

      Reply
    • John Murray

      10 years ago

      That’s pretty comical actually…three affordable years of a stud reliever for a kid who’s barely gotten to AA yet is hardly a reach.

      Reply
  4. jabmets

    10 years ago

    Dammit. I wanted him for the mets.

    Reply
    • jabmets

      10 years ago

      Nimmo, neise and a minor league prospect.

      Reply
    • rdodger32

      10 years ago

      LMAO why can he play third right and second you have NO BATS IDIOT

      Reply
  5. onlyringsmatter

    10 years ago

    Btw comments section is a joke right now.Can’t see new coments without reloading the page

    Reply
    • homeparkdc

      10 years ago

      Could it be a new intern moving over from fangraphs? Everyone *says*

      Reply
    • Eric D.

      10 years ago

      not to mention getting rid of upvotes and removing the ability to reply after about 4 comments.

      Reply
    • A'sfaninUK

      10 years ago

      Yeah this is wild, what happened???

      ATTN: Tim, Steve etc… get on this please

      Reply
  6. gorav114

    10 years ago

    So glad he’s not coming to the AL East

    Reply
  7. 184729

    10 years ago

    No

    Reply
  8. dirtywater433

    10 years ago

    Foolish Dombrowski? They acquired 3 years of Kimbrel versus one of Chapman.

    Reply
    • bigkempin

      10 years ago

      People call him foolish for what he gave up for Kimbrel….

      Reply
      • seamaholic 2

        10 years ago

        Really depends on how you value the two prospects they gave up. Both are very young. The Sox could easily have concluded that neither is going to be a star.

        Reply
        • tac3

          10 years ago

          People are really overvaluing prospects… the Phillies traded away a lot of prospects from 2007-2011… None of them have really comeback to haunt them…. Actually they one that they kept, Dom Brown, haunts them the most.

          Carrasco has probably performed the best… but i’ll take Cliff Lee for him sure.. Singleton on the astros was supposed to burn them…nope, not yet. Now the OF they gave could, but … 2 prospects out of 15+…. for Lee, Halladay, Oswalt, and Pence? Yeah ill do it everytime. Not to mention the players they got back in return for trading Lee, Pence, and Voctorino. They got squat. Soooo Good move by the Dodgers.

          Reply
          • Eric D.

            10 years ago

            So because of that we should just trade all the prospects? What if one of those prospects was Trout or Harper? Boston traded young prospect Jeff Bagwell for a relief pitcher back in the 90’s. how’d that turn out? Or what about when Seattle traded Adam Jones for Erik Bedard? These are just two examples, there’s plenty more.

            Reply
            • John Murray

              10 years ago

              How about that we still have Bogaerts, Betts, Moncada, Shaw, Rodriguez, Owens, Travis….

              Reply
  9. slasher016

    10 years ago

    I”m going to guess Alex Verdugo and Jharel Cotton.

    Reply
    • BigAlice

      10 years ago

      Negative. If it’s only two prospects coming back to the Reds, at least one of them is a Top 50 guy. My bet is Peraza and Holmes. We’ll see…

      Reply
  10. dirtywater433

    10 years ago

    Sorry if one 2 low A ball prospects and one legitimate aa prospect is deemed too much for Dombrowski to hand out to the best closer in baseball

    Reply
    • onlyringsmatter

      10 years ago

      it’s envy man let it go

      Reply
      • Joe McMahon

        10 years ago

        If you think it’s a good idea to trade two top 70 prospects in the game (one of whom is a top 30) for a pitcher who will throw 60 innings a year, let’s just say that it’s very lucky that you aren’t a GM.

        Reply
    • Eric D.

      10 years ago

      It doesnt matter what level theyre playing at. What matters is their abilities.

      Reply
  11. Joe McMahon

    10 years ago

    Barnes and Bellinger might be involved. MAYBE Holmes. I would be surprised if Seager, Urias, De Leon, Pederson or Peraza were involved.

    Reply
  12. Niekro

    10 years ago

    Sets up the Dodgers to work like the Yankee’s, One of the two will go into a 2 inning Betances role when needed, they can greatly shorten games when needed now. Being able to shorten games when Kershaw isn’t on the mound is huge. I love this move for the Dodgers.

    Reply
  13. bleumagicc

    10 years ago

    Yes!!!

    Reply
  14. Gardner_012

    10 years ago

    I wonder who is going to be a set up man now

    Reply
    • seamaholic 2

      10 years ago

      I don’t think Chapman will be on the Dodgers roster on OD. Either that or Jansen won’t. They’re pulling the same thing they pulled last year with Heaney: Acquire a desirable asset, and flip for what you really want.

      I bet one of the two of them ends up somewhere else and another mid-rotation starter ends up on the Dodgers.

      Reply
      • Gardner_012

        10 years ago

        I thought from the start of they got him they’d flip him or send away Jansen, I don’t think either of them would take to kindly to. Being a set up man after being dominant closers

        Reply
  15. AGAVE

    10 years ago

    Unfortunately, 1 season too late. He could have made a difference here in LA this past post season.

    Reply
  16. BigAlice

    10 years ago

    What the Reds got in return is going to say a lot about what the rest of their off season looks like. If they got anyone that’s close to Major League ready, it will mean they are trying to compete now, if it’s ‘2017 or ’18 type guys, then get ready for a full blown fire sale with Bruce and Frazier out the door in the next few days.

    Reply
  17. hojostache

    10 years ago

    LAD is going all in. It better cost them two top prospects or CIN will look bad, again.

    Reply
    • justinept

      10 years ago

      Tough to say they’re going all-in when they lost, arguable, the best free agent pitcher to a division rival. Say what you want about not giving a record AAV over years to a 32-year old pitcher, but a real ‘all-in’ approach says they’d have kept Greinke for whatever it took … because that’s what ‘all-in’ means.

      Reply
    • Eric D.

      10 years ago

      Not sure if signing Iwakuma to replace Grienke can be considered going all in. Not saying it was a bad move, but theyre certainly playing conservatively in terms of free agency

      Reply
  18. tim815

    10 years ago

    Holmes and ?

    Reply
    • slasher016

      10 years ago

      Bats bats bats. Reds are loaded with pitching in the high minors.

      Reply
  19. wigisdead

    10 years ago

    I feel a flip coming…

    Reply
    • seamaholic 2

      10 years ago

      DingDingDing

      We have a winner.

      Reply
  20. Joe 59

    10 years ago

    Storen/Papelbon 2.0

    Reply
  21. legend27

    10 years ago

    Cincinnati got robbed

    Reply
    • slasher016

      10 years ago

      Without knowing what they got?

      Reply
      • A'sfaninUK

        10 years ago

        lol these comments are insane, is legend27 a bot?!?

        Reply
    • jmac1984

      10 years ago

      How? We don’t even know the return yet. I’m hoping Holmes or Verdugo is in the return as a Reds fan.

      Reply
  22. southi

    10 years ago

    I said yesterday that Peraza would likely be dealt. Just as the braves saw, the Dodgers too have realized that he still has a lot of holes in his game that probably won’t get fixed. Most notable among those the fact he very seldom walks so must rely on extremely high BABIP so that his speed becomes a factor on the basepaths. In the long run I expect him to be at best a decent utility player unless he learns to take a walk more frequently.

    Reply
    • dhud

      10 years ago

      Do you know something the rest of the world doesn’t? Because I’m pretty sure the players haven’t been announced yet

      Reply
  23. Eric D.

    10 years ago

    What is this terrible new comments system??? You have to click show comment on literally EVERY comment? Who’s bright idea was that?

    Reply
    • Priggs89

      10 years ago

      Agreed – this is horrible

      Reply
  24. dirtywater433

    10 years ago

    Margot isn’t even close to the best all around prospect to the the Sox system before being traded.

    Espinoza, Benintendi, Moncada, Devers, and maybe Kopech are better players.

    Reply
    • Eric D.

      10 years ago

      Moncada is the only one who challenges for best ALL AROUND player, and when talking about all around position players you can’t really discuss pitchers, especially Kopech who for all we know hasn’t pitched without an illegal substance yet.. Devers is a bat first third baseman. Defense is an afterthought for him. Benintendi is also pretty offensive oriented.as well. Margot is the whole package.

      Reply
      • spendav199

        10 years ago

        Benintendi is the best player in Boston’s system mark my words. Think Jacoby ellsbury type bat and speed with a Joey Votto type understanding of the strike zone. He will be much more of a sure thing than even Moncada. The guy is an absolute gamer and ballplayer, never takes an at bat off. Boston made this move knowing all of this. Btw I’m not a Sox fan

        Reply
  25. rycm131

    10 years ago

    Any chance the Dodgers might stretch Chapman out to being a starter again? I hate seeing pitchers that are so dominant used as relievers. Even if his numbers dropped and he was say a 3.00 era with 10k per, that would be an upper echelon starter.

    Reply
    • DodgerBlue83

      10 years ago

      I doubt it, stretching pitchers back out usually isn’t a one year process and he is only signed for one year.

      Reply
  26. dodger

    10 years ago

    I’d wager that Pederson is in the deal.

    Reply
    • pustule bosey

      10 years ago

      I wouldn’t be surprised if either pederson or puig was in the trade

      Reply
  27. jakegreenberg24

    10 years ago

    Chapman for Peraza and Holmes is probably the deal. Guessing one of the following deals for Jose Fernandez is made:

    Red Sox trade Wade Miley, Eduardo Rodriguez, Xander Bogaerts
    Marlins trade Jose Fernandez

    Twins trade Byron Buxton and Jose Berrios
    Marlins trade Jose Fernandez

    Rangers trade Chi Chi Gonzalez, Joey Gallo, Jurickson Profar, and Nomar Mazara
    Marlins trade Marcell Ozuna and Jose Fernandez

    Cubs trade Eloy Jimenez, Javier Baez, and Jorge Soler
    Marlins trade Jose Fernandez

    Dodgers trade Julio Urias and Corey Seager
    Marlins trade Jose Fernandez and AJ Ramos

    Reply
    • onlyringsmatter

      10 years ago

      LOl Xander Bogaerts for Jose Fernandez.Like Red Sox would ever ever think let alone do that.

      Reply
      • rycm131

        10 years ago

        As a Redsox fan I think you have rose colored glasses in Xander. Much like when ESPN would have updates on the bottom line for JBJ as if he was the second coming of Mickey Mantle. He was later sent back to the minors that year.

        Reply
    • Eric D.

      10 years ago

      Why do the Red Sox get to give up way less than any other team?

      Reply
      • onlyringsmatter

        10 years ago

        you have a problem with the Red Sox?What is it?I am truly curious?

        Reply
        • Eric D.

          10 years ago

          Well, I’m a Red Sox fan, so nope no problem. I’m just realistic. It’s pretty ridiculous to assume that the Rangers return of Chi Chi, Gallo, Profar, and Mazara is equal to Bogaerts E-rod and Miley.

          Reply
          • kherz23

            10 years ago

            The Red Sox would not trade Xander

            Reply
          • A'sfaninUK

            10 years ago

            Thanks for being realistic and not a homer who thinks a team can trade trash for treasure.

            Reply
    • charles stevens

      10 years ago

      The Rangers would make that move. I can’t see the fish agreeing to it. I think the Rangers are more concerned with making minor additions to complete the foundation in place. Can’t see them making a splashy move this offseason unless its for Lucroy.

      Reply
  28. charles stevens

    10 years ago

    Gotta love hot stove baseball season. You just can’t get it off the brain.

    Reply
  29. christo14

    10 years ago

    There are reports that the dodgers are the mystery team for zobrist, so maybe one of the prospects is Peraza (which seems likely anyways). Then the Dodgers make a play for zobrist as their everyday 2B? Just spitballing…

    Reply
    • Admiral Rusty T. Shackleford

      10 years ago

      I was thinking the same thing.

      Reply
  30. James7430

    10 years ago

    People put too much value on “prospects.” For every Harper, Trout, or Harvey, there are 100 Lastings Milledges, Mike Olt’s, and Matt LaPorta’s. It’s hard to fully gauge the value at the onset of the trade. If LA ends up winning a ring, some would say it was worth it even IF one or both of the prospects turn out to be great major leaguers. Likewise with Cincinnati.

    Reply
    • Admiral Rusty T. Shackleford

      10 years ago

      Absolutely no one thought those 3 prospects you mentioned to turn out that good.

      Reply
      • bobo678

        10 years ago

        milledge and laporta were as close to untouchable to the mets and brewers as any players could have been….I remember laporta and one other fringe guys was traded for sabathia and mike Brantley….

        Reply
      • The Oregonian

        10 years ago

        Yeah, remember how people thought Harper was only going to be a platoon player?

        Reply
  31. nixon07

    10 years ago

    Eric is just another delusional sports fan. Who has all the answers. Yet he’s sitting on mlb trade rumors, like the rest of us. It’s shocking he isn’t working in a front office somewhere. Oh yeah they don’t hire………… I will be nice and leave the insult out.

    Reply
    • Eric D.

      10 years ago

      hahaha ok man.

      Reply
  32. whitemule70

    10 years ago

    Say hello to a closer controversy in LA. Look at what happened to the Nats after they traded for a closer. Not the best use of LA’s resources, probably.

    Reply
    • rick5ful

      10 years ago

      Your comment makes no sense.

      Reply
    • 22Leo

      10 years ago

      Look what happens when anyone acquires Papelbon. I don’t think that situation is relevant to what the Dodgers are doing.

      Reply
    • mkeving

      10 years ago

      Nah, the Nats Papelbon situation wasn’t caused by having two closers but by having one Papelbon.

      Reply
      • Cam

        10 years ago

        Brilliantly accurate.

        Reply
  33. lacherj

    10 years ago

    If the Reds do not get MLB ready talent in this trade is a loss for the Reds. (which the past couple of years seems to be the norm! I like how the Dodgers have all this MLB ready talent… yet they keep wanting to get verterns… but do not want to part with what they have?
    The Reds came into this offseason saying they want young MLB ready talent. If they don’t I think its a waste of time. They have enough young pitching.. I would go after young bats. Like a Seager or a Pederson.. if they don’t get at least 1 MLB ready player this deal is a waste and the Dodgers will be laughing their asses off.

    Reply
    • joshbresser

      10 years ago

      Nobody would give Pederson or Seager for one year of a relief pitcher. That is laughable.

      Reply
    • A'sfaninUK

      10 years ago

      “MLB-ready talent” and “rebuilding” almost never are in the same sentence. The Reds need to be punting 2016 and shooting to be good in 2017, which they absolutely can be.

      Reply
      • pustule bosey

        10 years ago

        pederson and seager are arguably both rebuild and ready material –

        Reply
        • A'sfaninUK

          10 years ago

          Agreed, but they aren’t getting Seager for any package the Reds could feasibly put together. Pederson might be the one.

          Reply
    • BigAlice

      10 years ago

      DeSclafani for Latos, and Suarez for Simon…

      You’re kidding. Right?

      The Reds fleeced the Marlins last winter and then got a starting bat from the Tigers for a guy that was signed as a reclamation project. Then they turned a couple months of Cueto into 3 MLB ready arms. And the best of all the deals might end up being Mella and Duvall for Marlon Byrd.

      It’s hard to find fault with any of that. Seriously.

      Reply
  34. yanks02026

    10 years ago

    This would be a good idea for what the Yankees could get for Miller.

    Reply
  35. R.D.

    10 years ago

    Well, trading peraza would open up the possibility of the Dodgers signing Kendrick. They would really deepen their current lineup.

    Reply
    • BlueSkyLA

      10 years ago

      A real possibility. The silence on Kendrick (who should be one of the most talked-about free agents in this offseason) is deafening, He’s looking like the dog that did not bark.

      Reply
      • 22Leo

        10 years ago

        If my neighbors have dogs, I always hope it is that one.

        Reply
  36. WeggieJackson44

    10 years ago

    Feel one heading to the Marlins in a deal for Fernandez

    Reply
  37. williamg

    10 years ago

    Wonder who they traded

    Reply
  38. A'sfaninUK

    10 years ago

    3+ hours with no new info? Anyone wanna bet this deal was prematurely announced?

    Reply
    • joshbresser

      10 years ago

      It seems like details of Reds-involved trades always take forever to get out. This is normal, I think.

      Reply
      • A'sfaninUK

        10 years ago

        How can a trade be announced but the players aren’t? Why even announce the trade as happened when it hasn’t happened?

        Reply
        • petcopadre

          10 years ago

          because among journalists, it’s always important to be the “first to break the story.” Dumb, I know but true.

          Reply
      • mfdesquire

        10 years ago

        This could be another Cueto situation. Recall that the Reds had a trade agreement with the Royals (and Cueto was scratched from his start that night), but then another team came in at the last minute and made a better offer. So Cincinnati voided the agreed-upon trade by claiming that one of the players they were to receive failed the medical reports. Cueto started that night, and the Reds then got the Royals to sweeten the deal a bit..

        Could that be happening here?

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        • A'sfaninUK

          10 years ago

          Nope! I was right! The Dodgers brass announced it and jumped the gun without the Reds agreeing to a deal.

          Reply
  39. Mikel Grady

    10 years ago

    If Cubs could get Fernandez for Jimenez soler Baez I’d be happy. Sign heyward or Gordon. Castro stays at second or get Murphy/zobrist.

    Reply
  40. raef715

    10 years ago

    i want to see the reaction of Chapman or Jansen when they found out they arent a closer anymore…or better yet when they both get told they are “co-closers”..

    when you have a great closer and need everything else in your bullpen, going out and getting another great closer just doesnt see like the optimal solution.

    Reply
    • gamemusic3 2

      10 years ago

      Or the Dodgers end the ridiculous idea of a ‘closer.’

      These 2 are a great excuse to explain to the players relief will be handled by matchups.

      Reply
      • Cam

        10 years ago

        Absolutely. The notion of the “closer” is extremely outdated – “high leverage reliever” is the way forward.

        Had the closer label been thrown away earlier, maybe Pedro Baez – probably the Dodgers fourth best reliever on the post-season roster, wouldn’t have pitched in the most important spot of the series.

        Reply
      • justinept

        10 years ago

        Try convincing a player that saves aren’t important in his walk year…

        Reply
  41. mrshyguy99

    10 years ago

    Well dodgers really want to improve. It a weird move since they have Jensen but that why I’m not a gm. I’m guessing if they keep both Jensen will be the set up man. I’m just glad Seager Leon or Urias aren’t being traded

    Reply
    • puigpower

      10 years ago

      If you’re a fan you know the pen was bad last season

      Reply
      • mrshyguy99

        10 years ago

        I know the pen was bad but it just seem odd to have two top closers. Plus who knows if it will work out

        Reply
  42. slasher016

    10 years ago

    The Reds already wanted to move Phillips due to having both Cozart and Suarez for the middle infield, so I don’t see how this “escalates” it.

    Reply
    • nick 20

      10 years ago

      I am assuming you mean why would Peraza be an option as a piece in return since they already want to move Phillips?? I wonder if they would take Peraza in return because Frazier would be soon to follow and then either Saurez, Peraza, or Cozart would slide to 3rd.

      Reply
  43. cards1

    10 years ago

    Interesting. Now what to do with Jansen and Chapman.

    Reply
    • mrshyguy99

      10 years ago

      Well there saying keep both. But who knows if either one will be ok not closing

      Reply
      • tommyl

        10 years ago

        Shared closing based on handedness and who’s coming up in the 8th and 9th..

        Reply
        • bleumagicc

          10 years ago

          Was thinking this earlier.

          Reply
  44. jd396

    10 years ago

    The emperor is pleased

    Reply
  45. ew032

    10 years ago

    Like the move as long as the price paid wasn’t too great. Hopefully they hold onto Holmes as he projects as a power arm top of the rotation type. Would rather include Zack Lee or Chris Anderson.

    Reply
  46. A'sfaninUK

    10 years ago

    This is insane. What is taking so long? Even announce WHY there’s a holdup!

    Reply
    • BlueSkyLA

      10 years ago

      Impatient much? This trade rumor isn’t based on any announcement, just one tweet that itself is only a couple of hours old.

      Reply
      • A'sfaninUK

        10 years ago

        No, I wasn’t impatient – you NEVER see trades announced with 6+ hours going by without anything about both sides of the deal. This was a fake trade from moment one: the Dodgers clearly jumped the gun in alerting this to the press.

        Reply
        • double

          10 years ago

          The Matt Kemp deal went over a week without either side confirming there was one.

          Reply
        • BlueSkyLA

          10 years ago

          Who says the Dodgers alerted the press?

          Reply
  47. A'sfaninUK

    10 years ago

    Also this new commenting system is really, really, really, REALLY bad.

    Reply
    • charles stevens

      10 years ago

      Yes, its absolutely terrible

      Reply
    • wilymo

      10 years ago

      i would upvote this, but, i can’t

      Reply
  48. vamosbravos

    10 years ago

    Your move, Bobby Evans.

    Reply
    • g55s

      10 years ago

      Giants don’t need a closer,. Other holes to fill. LF and SP

      Reply
  49. petcopadre

    10 years ago

    what do you think if Puig was included in this deal?

    Reply
  50. Jon429

    10 years ago

    I’m going to laugh pretty hard if Arizona swoops in and gets him at the last minute

    Reply
    • mrnatewalter

      10 years ago

      That would be absolutely amazing.

      Reply
    • rayrayner

      10 years ago

      We were thinking the same thing, but I think LA will still be better long term.

      Reply
    • WrongVerb

      10 years ago

      At this point Pollack better be the return

      Reply
      • chesteraarthur

        10 years ago

        Uh, why?

        Reply
      • AidanVega123

        10 years ago

        You either completely undervalue Pollock or completely overvalue Chapman. As dominant as Chapman is, he would be just a starting point in a Pollock trade.

        Reply
  51. rayrayner

    10 years ago

    Wouldn’t be funny if the Dbacks swooped in?

    Reply
  52. brandonmarin

    10 years ago

    Dbacks should swoop In again, that would make my Christmas. Dodgers crying, dbacks cheering.

    Reply
  53. dhud

    10 years ago

    But wait, according to all the keyboard GMs on here it was a done deal of Peraza and Holmes?

    Reply
    • The Oregonian

      10 years ago

      Good one. I’d upvote, but, you know.

      Reply
      • AsFan89

        10 years ago

        ^ Upvote

        Reply
  54. charles stevens

    10 years ago

    Reds are just leaking that too get Dodgers to budge on the guy they want.

    Reply
  55. eric9690

    10 years ago

    With Jensen being the current closer why weren’t they pursuing a starter more than closer? I hope they won’t rely on Alex wood Bolsinger and Anderson to make up for greinke leaving

    Reply
    • Cam

      10 years ago

      These guys get paid millions – they can multi-task.

      Reply
  56. wilymo

    10 years ago

    never trust people from cincinnati. i’ve always said so

    Reply
    • BlueSkyLA

      10 years ago

      Anybody who puts chili on their spaghetti has to be watched.

      Reply
      • charles stevens

        10 years ago

        Good point.

        Reply
      • dhud

        10 years ago

        You know, I’m from Cincinnati but…fair point lol

        Reply
  57. greatd

    10 years ago

    Wonder who the mystery teams are but considering the price tag.
    I think there will be other teams like the Diamondbacks and Cubs who could swoop in.

    Reply
    • Drank

      10 years ago

      Astros could be in it. They’re pitcher “rich” in the minors plus they have Tony Kemp who is blocked by Jose Altuve.

      Reply
      • greatd

        10 years ago

        Completely agree.
        Man if they get him they’ll be up there to win the world series that’s for sure.

        Reply
      • WrongVerb

        10 years ago

        Reds need hitters. Bregman and P.Tucker should suffice

        Reply
  58. kman5000

    10 years ago

    Ultimate troll if the D’backs swoop in. Doubt it but still.

    Reply
  59. joshbresser

    10 years ago

    Why are the Reds so incompetent?

    Reply
    • ctrenkamp

      10 years ago

      I know, right. Why can’t they just make a trade and not review the prospects medical reports?

      Reply
      • joshbresser

        10 years ago

        That’s not the problem.

        Reply
  60. Money113

    10 years ago

    Reds with their best DeAndre Jordan impersonation … SMH

    Reply
    • jmac1984

      10 years ago

      Looks like this is on the Dodgers

      Reply

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