The latest deadline rumblings from Jayson Stark of ESPN.com…
- The Giants are still searching for starting pitching, but they’re only looking at top-of-the-rotation arms to pair with Madison Bumgarner in a playoff rotation, Stark hears. San Francisco has checked in on both David Price and Cole Hamels, but they’re not considered a favorite to land Hamels from the Phillies, and there’s still no definitive sense that Price has been made available by the Tigers. Yesterday, Stark reported that the Dodgers and Rangers were emerging as the favorites in the Hamels market.
- The Orioles are speaking with other clubs to get a feel for what kind of return they could get if they market Matt Wieters, Chris Davis, Wei-Yin Chen, Tommy Hunter and Bud Norris, Stark hears. However, rival clubs feel the O’s will only sell if they slide to six or more games back in the Wild Card race — and they’re 3.5 games out with four to play before the deadline at this time. If they make up a bit of ground, they could add a bat, but Stark says it’d likely be a bench piece as opposed to a bigger name. Baltimore GM Dan Duquette said last week he would be a buyer regardless of the team’s play, though others have suggested that the Orioles could still end up selling if they struggle enough.
- Adding help that can be controlled beyond 2015 is the priority for the Rangers, which is why they’re targeting Hamels, Tyson Ross and Andrew Cashner while also listening to offers on Yovani Gallardo. However, according to Stark, those moves aren’t linked, and Texas could acquire a rotation piece for 2016 but also hang onto Gallardo. Personally, I think Gallardo’s pitched well enough to warrant a qualifying offer. A draft pick and improved odds of making a late run (especially if they do add another rotation arm) present enough value that the Rangers shouldn’t feel obligated to simply take the best offer for Gallardo if the proposed packages aren’t all that impressive.
- The Pirates are now likely to hang onto Pedro Alvarez after shopping him without success for several weeks. They’ve asked the Brewers, White Sox and Rays about Adam Lind, Adam LaRoche and James Loney, respectively, but with Alvarez in the fold, they’re not likely to make a move at first. Stark adds that multiple sources downplayed the recent reports connecting Pittsburgh to the Red Sox’ Mike Napoli.
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
If they make up a bit of ground, they could add a bat, but Stark says it’d likely be a bench piece as opposed to a bigger name.
No this is worthless.. What are they waiting for?
Sell, Sell, Sell!!!!
UnderRatedFlaherty
Completely agree with you. Free up some money for the winter by getting Norris, Wieters, Chen, Davis, Hunter, Snider and Matusz off of your hands. Keep Tillman and O’Day and extend them near the end of the season. Get players that are ML/near ML ready in exchange that are controllable as well. ex – Kevin Pillar/Kevin Kiermaier
Bob M.
Chen, Davis, and Wieters are all free agents. They need to move them to get pieces back.
Bleed_Orange
Davis needs to go. Extending him a QO will be risky. Chen and Wieters are slam dunks to reject a QO so if the haul for them isn’t good enough then just take the extra picks in the draft. Hunter, Matusz, Norris, and Snider are all very expendable so take what you can get for all 4. Minus Chen the O’s could still contend for a wild card spot if all these players were moved. The team would look almost exactly like it did last year.
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
Yeah, but Joseph isn’t a full-time starter.
Bleed_Orange
A platoon of Joseph and Clevenger would be serviceable for the rest of the season.
blake
Happy to hear Double Play Loney in the talks!
snazzypants
I don’t think the Giants have enough to land Hamels. Crick would be the headliner, but the Phillies are looking for hitting prospects. Unless they go for a quantity over quality approach, really can’t see them being in the Hamels race. They may have enough for Price though, considering he’s a rental.
Kapler's Coconut Oil
I sure hope Crick headlines! He’s moved into middle relief, and he’s still having trouble with his control there! At this point, and deal with any one major will have Beede and Susac headlining.
hopper15
Beede or Arroyo would be the headliner.
snazzypants
For Hamels? Neither is a Top-100 prospect. That would be highway robbery.
hopper15
Yet you listed Crick as a headliner who’s not even starting because his command has been so bad.
ssf1234
According to
BA’s mid season report, they have dropped Crick from the Giants top spot and now Beede is SF #1 prospect and number 66 in their midseason top 100..
snazzypants
I referred to MLB’s prospect rankings. Excuse me, I don’t frequently check BA.
Bob M.
na, Susac would be the headliner. The Phillies want a catcher. Susac is very valuable because he is an everyday catcher, right now. But still thats not enough. I know the Giants would ask for the Phillies to eat money.
xbradleyx
Krick is averaging more than a walk per inning and has been moved to the bullpen at AA.
The Giants have some good prospects but very few blue-chippers. It’s going to be hard for them to make a move of any real consequence.
No Big League Choo For Yu
I say trade for Hamels and Carasco while trading Yo or trade for Hamels and keep Yo
Bob M.
I wonder if the Rangers can get a third team in on a Hamels, Gallardo deal. The Phillies could pick prospects from both and send cash to both.
Bob M.
Im sure the Phillies have interest in Susac, because he is one of the few big league ready catchers. The rest of the farm is questionable. Beede has ticked down and Crick is a pen piece. The Phillies wont eat money for that deal.
Kapler's Coconut Oil
If you ignore Beede’s last start, he has still been very solid and call be a call up in the middle if next year
Bob M.
velo is down
jkunkle
I still say that come Friday, Cole will be wearing Dodger Blue. As a Braves fan, I rather him go to the AL but I think LA gets him.
Brixton
Beede, Crick, Susac and Hunter Cole for Hamels and 15M.
Giants have a very weak farm system, and basically would need to give up their top 3 in order to equal the elite type the Cubs/Dodgers/Rangers/Yankees could offer.
Lokey
Phillies don’t chip in any cash for that deal
Brixton
Then the deal doesn’t happen. Giants can’t afford to have 70M rotation.
g5528
Matt Cain – $20,833,333
Tim Lincecum – $18
Tim Hudson – $12
Jake Peavy – $9
Madison Bumgarner – $6,950,000
$66,783,333
Not sure why you think a team with a 170+ million salary can’t do 70 mill.
Bob M.
Why do the Giants not spend money? They sell out every single game and have a very strong fan base.
Anyway, the contracts of Lincecum and Hudson, come off the books after the season. Peavy’s contract is pretty bad, but his is off the books after 2016. Cain’s contract isnt looking too good, but again his contract only runs 2 more seasons.
Bob M.
depends on how scouts view Beede. His fastball has gone backwards as his arm has accumulated innings. He is polished enough to be a big league starter, but the ceiling has been lowered.
max l
Too many chefs cooking dinner in the Phillies kitchen, they move nobody.
orangeoctober
Yeah I don’t see the O’s adding any major. It would be stupid to add a rental. If they’re going to do anything though, I’d like them to finally get a real corner OF. They start a three game series against Atlanta tonight so they should be able to win at least two especially since ATL traded Uribe and Johnson.
tac3
Can’t wait to see the final offers for Hamels. It should set the market for a return for an extended period of time. IMO, teams are way overvaluing prospects, aka unproven assets. This whole nonsense about teams not wanting to give up their top prospects for a proven LHP with NLCS&WS MVP, and now a No-hitter in the face of trade rumors…. is getting ridiculous. I get it… that teams “don’t want to”, but in a fair deal, they absolutely should and it should become the standard again. This is horsepoo that teams want to have their cake and eat it too! You either grow some ballz and go for it, or you don’t even pick up the phone. My guess is the Phillies trade Hamels to Rangers for Mazzaro (OF, spelling?) and their top catcher, and one other player and then turn around in the offseason and sign grienke or price. They have so much money coming in, and also coming off the books, they’ll splurge to get their revenues back up. Money talks. Thats what im rooting for…. I hope the redsoxs and dodgers enjoy their prospects 🙂 because they’ll see how much of a risk they were to develop and pin the hopes of a franchise rebuild on … O and no Ace 🙂
tac3
Who am I …. 1-5(W/L) with a 5.32 era in the playoffs?
Bob Sacamano 310
Alvarez for LaRoche…get it done Hahn!
Dock_Elvis
I suppose Gallardo would make some sense for San Francisco, given their prospect pool. Samardzija? I think if I were talking about total surprise trades of the deadline.. It could be Corey Kluber. Giants probably don’t get that done…but there are a few teams that might