Dodgers president Andrew Friedman will entertain offers for any player, even Yasiel Puig, reports Ken Rosenthal in his latest video for FOX Sports. The right-handed outfielder is under club control through 2019. He’s paid just $4.5MM this season and $5.5MM in 2016. Puig, 24, provides necessary balance to a lineup that will include left-handers Adrian Gonzalez, Joc Pederson, and Corey Seager. The Dodgers would like to add a top young starter, but it would take an awful lot for Puig to be included in a deal. My own personal spit balling – it would take a starter like Matt Harvey to open a conversation. Here’s more from Rosenthal:
- The Royals rotation ranks 13th in the American League in ERA. Rival executives expect the club to acquire starting pitching at the deadline. Kansas City may have a narrow window for contention. Alex Gordon can opt out of his contract after this season. Mike Moustakas and Eric Hosmer are under club control through 2017. The club does have Danny Duffy and Kris Medlen on the rehab trail, but setbacks are always possible. Personally, I wouldn’t expect them to seek a top pitcher like Cole Hamels or Johnny Cueto. However, I could see them targeting a guy like Aaron Harang.
- The Rangers could soon find themselves with a surplus of starting pitchers. The club promoted Chi Chi Gonzalez today. Meanwhile, Derek Holland, Matt Harrison, and Martin Perez are expected to return at some point this season. As Rosenthal points out, setbacks to that trio would not be surprising. Rather than trading a starter, the club might revisit their previous efforts to acquire Hamels. Texas is just one game below .500 entering this evening.
- The Athletics are unlikely to deal ace Sonny Gray. At the end of the season, he’ll have the same amount of service time as Josh Donaldson did last winter. However, the A’s still hope to build a contender – if not this season then next. Gray is key cog for Oakland.
Surplus is an interesting way to put it
Well a surplus in terms of 40-man roster spots, not of quality
I disagree. Martinez is 4th in the AL in ERA, Gallardo is holding his own, Lewis was doing better than Gallardo until his last disastrous start, and Wandy is doing better than Gallardo so far; *knock on wood*.
Chi Chi just put up 5.2 shut out innings allowing only 2 hits. Holland was viewed as the #2 starter going into this season (prior to Darvish’s injury). Perez was a high end prospect, and should be a solid #3 pitcher. Harrison is the only one I wouldn’t consider of any quality out of all of these.
I’m still not sold on Martinez actually maintaining his success, or even close to it, and I don’t trust Lewis; however, Holland and Perez are very good pitchers and they will definitely improve the rotation!
In context to the article, knowing Holland, Perez, and Harrison are coming back this year and with Darvish coming back next year, should the Rangers trade for Hamels, which 5 would you choose for your 2016 rotation??
Hamels, Darvish, Martinez, Holland, Gallardo, Lewis, Wandy, Perez, Chi Chi, Harrison
Also, notate which of these, if any, would be included in a deal for Hamels.
Gallardo, Lewis and Wandy are all FA after the season. That leaves you with Hamels, Darvish, Martinez, Holland, Harrison, Perez and Chi Chi.
Go with Hamels, Darvish, Holland, Chi Chi and Martinez, put Harrison in the pen until he proves healthy, and put Perez in the package.
I am not a pro at valuing these prospects so I may be way off, but here goes: Martinez(sell high) plus high end prospect(s) for Hamels and Papelbon and possibly money(depending on prospect package). I would hope to come into 2016 with something like: Hamels, Darvish, Holland, Jake/ChiChi/FA(whoever is left/earns it), Perez.
Papelbon? You really want that doochecanoe?
I would prefer they didn’t pay a king’s ransom for Hamels; however, if they did make the trade, I imagine Chi Chi would definitely be involved but I don’t think any of the other pitchers on that list would.
Darvish, Hamels, Holland, Perez, and Gallardo/Martinez would be in the 5 man rotation in my opinion. Obviously, Martinez if he keeps up his production.
Rangers acquire:
Cole Hamels
Cash
Phillies Acquire:
Matt Harrison
Jorge Alfaro
Luke Jackson
Martin Perez
That will work
Alfaro is not going any where. Also, two top end prospects and a pitcher who has proven he can do well (albeit he was bitten by the TJ bug so who knows if he will be back there soon) seems like way too high of a price, even for Hamels.
You want the Phillies to take Matt Harrison and Martin Perez, two injured pitchers owed more than $50 million, and send money too? And all the Phillies get is top prospect and a guy with a 5.04 ERA in AAA? If the Phillies discount Hamels enough to take on $50 million in contracts they can trade him to poor teams and get a much better return.
Yes I do and Jon Daniels does want to trade Alfaro and Matt Harrison is awful so trade him and Perez to Philadelphia for hamels with cash
Hamels will be with the dodgers come end of june or early july
I can understand that Jon Daniels wants the Phillies to take his bad contracts and pay Cole Hamels’ contract but why would Ruben Amaro want to do that? Especially considering the return, one top prospect, is less than the return on David Price last year?
Simple the rangers like cole hamels because hamels dominates us and we need him and hamels won’t go to the dodgers because the dodger front office can go after Johnny cueto or Jordan Zimmerman
If the Rangers were to get Hamels, I think the deal would require significant cash going to Tex with an elite prospect coming back to Phi, maybe Joey Gallo.
no way the rangers would deal gallo, he’s next in line to take over for beltre
I would not do that if I was philly. Then again I am lower than most on Alfaro tho.
But wasn’t Donaldson a “key cog for Oakland” as well.
For the right price Beane would trade Gray.
Wouldn’t surprise me if Gray is traded in the offseason.
Oakland would be making a serious mistake if they traded Gray. One of the combo youngest and best young SP in the game, who will STILL have 4y of control left.
A full blown bidding war would commence with him on the table, teams with loaded systems, Cubs, Boston, LAD if they are willing to move top chips.. Each of those only apply. I see no prospects off the table if Gray is put on the market, Double that with him represented by an agent who is amendable with McKinnis.. Someone whom can be dealt with on a LT deal.
It would be one way the A’s can reload their farm system if he is traded. If Beane honestly thinks the team won’t be able to contend in the next few years, I can see a blockbuster trade in the offseason.
Lol, you must be a Red Sox fan. Do the Cubs and Dodgers have loaded systems? Yes. Boston? Not even close.
The Red Sox system has been rated higher then the Dodgers and just below the Cubs. The Red Sox would probably give up an insane amount of talent for Gray.
You can’t really count Moncada and Castillo as they come with larger paychecks. If they were both true prospects, then yeah, the Red Sox are loaded. Moncada and Castillo are the best two prospects IMO. I’d take Owens third.
Moncada should and is counted. He is only 19 and has never played in the United States. According to different list they have 5-8 top 100 prospects. They have three top 20 prospects. Don’t matter how you look at it they have a top 5 farm team and are probably in the 2-4 space.
As a standalone prospect he does. But not when you’re evaluating potential trades. He comes with millions of dollars owed to him. I wouldn’t trade a random AA scrub for Kris Bryant if he’s owed $400M.
No one would trade for Bryant at a half billion. Moncada is not for trade. They just signed him.
Castillio isnt really counted but Moncada is. This system is so strong that Owens is probably 4th- 5th at this point.
Actually, Boston was ranked right around #5-7.
Twins may well be better then any of of them. How about the Astros? How come those 2 never get any pub?
Boston was ranked third by MLB Pipeline.
Overrated like their starting pitching!
Porcello and Miley would total object to that…if they could get out from under their 5 & 5+ ERAs…..
MLB and BA have BoSox ranked 2nd.
BA says 2, Sickels says 2, MLB says 2. BP says 6. Keith Law 5th. Care to guess which of those rankings were done before Moncada was signed? The 5 and 6. The rest are after. So no. They’re not ranked between 5 and 7. At least not on any current lists.
Even better. My point was that they have a top system. Thanks for further supporting that.
The Red Sox have 8 top 100 prospects. I’d call that pretty loaded.
Blake Swihart (19th)
Rusney Castillo (21st)
Henry Owens (44th)
E-Rod (59th)
Manuel Margot (72nd)
Brian Johnson (82nd)
Rafael Devers (99th)
Yoan Moncada (8th per MLB)
Castillo and Moncado were paid market value for their services though, so they don’t have the extreme surplus value that is associated with most prospects.
Assuming Moncada’s bonus was spread out over a few seasons, you can take him and Castillo off that list. Then you have to multiply the remaining by the Red Sox overrated multiplier, and you have one or two guys that are borderline top 100. Now if both Castillo and Moncada came with league minimums, I’d be interested in them.
So, I’d take Urias, Seager, Pederson, Bryant, Russell, Baez and Schwarber over every remaining Red Sox player on the list.
You just seem not to like the Red Sox so you are clearly biased.
I don’t like the overvaluing of Red Sox prospects. So in that respect, I am biased to counteract the opposing bias already in place.
So there is a large scale conspiracy involving every major sports and baseball prospecting surce to over hype just Red Sox prospects ( because no other teams prospects fail beside the 75% of all prospects who do) even the ones that they don’t plan to trade just so that when they fail they look really bad? Makes sense.
Without taking a position on the relative strength of the RS farm system, it doesn’t take a conspiracy at all. The very few people providing the ratings don’t see most of the prospects they rate. There’s probably not a prospect in baseball that scouts aren’t divided on as well. Personally, I don’t even consider Keith Law a source.
It kinda would. If you saying that every source and all the scouts who give sources are lying for the same common goal (which is absurd) then yes. This whole thing that the Red SOx have overrated prospect is so stupid and you only hear about on message boards. Every teams prospects mostly fail.
That’s a pretty enormous straw man talking about lying for a common goal. Do you think that the hundreds of millions of people who believe in obviously nonsensical things contradicted by science all got together to lie? People have beliefs and motivations that have nothing to do with some sort of scheme. One is hype.
You also wield the word “every” as if the universe of amateur prospect evaluation sites is a large number. You’re also talking about all the scouts. Did you think that a prospect exists that all the scouts agree on? Did you think that people like Sickles who may have never seen any of the top RS prospects talks to more than a couple scouts?
Not only does it not take a dark conspiracy, its typical of things that happen all the time.
You have convinced me! All the experts are wrong. The only reason you and some other people are buying into this false hype theory is because Boston is a major market team. Its not surprising at all when these prospects fail. I could give you tons of names of cant miss prospects that missed. Look at the top ten list of every team from the last decade. Its a straw mans arugment when you are saying that Red Sox prospects are over hyped without any evidence. It is not a Red Sox thing, its a baseball thing. Prospects are always gonna be hyped. Right now the Red Sox have a very good farm and chances are still very high that most will fail. For every Trout or Harper you get 100 Lars Andersons and Matt Bushes.
You really are motoring through a smorgasbord of logical fallacies. Although i never claimed that RS prospects were overhyped and surely it wouldn’t be a difficult position to defend, it wouldn’t be a straw man argument. Why not look something up if you don’t know what it is?
True, most teams prospects fail. But the Red Sox failures are more publicized/hyped. That’s why they seem to be bigger failures.
No they are not. Every team has hyped prospects. You may hear more about the Red Sox because they are a very big market team.
That is exactly what I said. “the Red Sox failures are more publicized/hyped.” Try naming the most publicized/hyped prospect of each team. Chances are you will know the propects of the “big market” teams. What about Florida? Milwaukee? Seattle? They don’t get the type of National press. If ESPN does not have a studio there, they will not get the attention. Boston, NY and LA are like the Kardasians. Its hard to feel for them when they complain about all the attention they get.
What I’m saying is the Red So prospects are just as good as everyone else. The players they have would be rated just as highly with any other team. Any added media attention has nothing to do with talent or trade value .it has less to to do with ESPN and more to do with size of fan base and city as to who gets covered. If Tampa fans don’t care about the Rays then why would New York fans?
The “known” talent is the publicized talent, even for the rating systems. Its safer to rate a known prospect higher. If it doesn’t work out as projected, which we both agree is often, then the services are protected on their reputation by the “everyone said they would be good” logic. Image is important even to the rating systems.
Because of the publicity/hyping of the large market’s prospects, people in Tampa Bay know of the Yankee’s and Red Sox prospects. That’s why there are more comments on Yankee and Red Sox articles. It’s why more negative responses occur, as well as positive responses. Just gotta be less sensitive.
The systems are based on talent not hype. Not sensitive, just not paranoid ether.
If henry owens is 44 rated prospect something is really wrong, I have seen him a lot , he is a loogy at best, boston can keep him.. fat leg devers with no postion and there overated system. hamels is a stud and if he get a decent offense behind him, could be the difference in winning a championship. I just hate the talk of giving him up for other teams lesser prospects, amaro wont do it and we don’t want him to.
the pirates have a good farm system too
Pirates though don’t have as high of a need for a top end rotation starter as some of the others listed already, though they do have the pieces to get it done if someone gets injured (hopefully not).
If that were to happen , I think Tailon might be almost ready to join the club from rehabbing tommy john, It hurt them when Kingham just went down with tj surgery.
That’s ignorant. Boston has Swihart, Castillo, Owens, Rodriguez, Devers, Moncada, etc etc. They could EASILY get a deal done for Gray with a combination of the players mentioned above. Heck, they could probably trade Moncada straight up for Gray.
The Red Sox have one of the best farm systems in baseball but a deal for gray because of his youth and sucess would be hard. It would probably have to include one of Betts or Swihart and then two of the Lefties plus Margot +
The Red Sox have not been prone to dealing top prospects, regardless of what they get back. That is, they are not prone to trading top prospects until they are no longer considered top prospects.
Sonny Gray is not the kind of player who comes up for trade often. There would be no untouchable player in talks for him. He would be one of the best trade chips in the game. Hes also not owed 100 million like some other pitchers.
True, but its still the Red Sox way of doing things.
Its mostly just because the Red Sox are willing to spend money or trade prospects but they are not gonna do both. Gray is cheap money wise so he has a ton of value to be had.
The current regime has not traded prospects for established talent.
So what you’re saying is the should wait until the deadline to trade Sonny Gray?
Agree – I have heard a few scribes opining that Gray could end up a Dodger soon – even Rosenthal mentioning above Yasiel Puig for a top young pitcher – stranger things have happened
I’d like to see him in a Jays uni. Maybe Donaldson could be a influence in achieving that. With what they have now Gray would no doubt be the ace of that team.
I think that price is sky high though. Way more than Donaldson.
Why? They traded 4 years of a 6-8 WAR MVP type player for a package with no cant-miss prospects, why wouldn’t they trade 5 years of a 3-5 WAR pitcher for a similar package?
It has a lot to do with age, I would think. Donaldson is arguably at his peak right now, while Gray has plenty of time to improve.
If the Royals plan on contending at all this year. They need to trade for an All-Star pitcher or two decent pitchers. Having a starting rotation ranked 13th in the AL is just asking for trouble.
Yes, that’s why they have the 2nd best record in the AL.
Everyone knows a bottom dwelling pitching staff is the key to going deep in the playoffs…. They need help. I’m not sure they should go for a high-end rental, but they need to do something.
If Medlen can come back strong then that is a very big steal for the royals, Volquez is doing good since last year , but if they could add another arm like kazmir or maybe mike leake or latos then its possible. I think they have what it takes to take away the central crown from the tigers.
The AL is definitely down this year (Hello AL East!), so they really need to make a push for an arm if they want to go deep.
I don’t think they need a top of the rotation arm, It would be nice like somebody said above they should go get hamels
Ah, but do either KC or Detroit have what it takes to stop the Twinkies?
The twins are just like the astros right now, on a nice run but they should just enjoy it now because they both will fall off because the angels will hit their stride and take over the al west, as for the al central who knows the twins are suprising me right now. but the astros imo are taking advantage of the weak al west but as soon as the angels get in the groove , they will be the ones on top when the season is over, I picked the royals taking the central crown away from the tigers in 2015.
If the Twins or Astros are the Team that improves at the deadline, not the Royals, not the Tigers, not the Angels, then a surprise start could be maintained.
I don’t see it happening really, the angels going for the sweep tonight, if they get the sweep it will give them a boost of confidence, hopefully enough to hit their stride, once they get the offense back in gear they are primed and ready for a deep run, their rotation has been great so far. all they could use is a couple bats and maybe another arm for the pen.
I have noticed articles about the Astros looking to acquire talent.
Ken would love for the Rangers to get ripped off for Hamels–trade a bunch of top prospects and take on all/most of his contract. No thanks…unless the Phillies will trade straight up Andrus for Hamels?
No way Phillies are trading for Andrus. They consider JP Crawford the long term SS.
He was jesting…he just wants to dump Andrus.
Andrus contract makes Hamels look like a bargain by comparison. I am going to guess the Phillies would pass.
The Dodgers interest in Cole Hamels is no secret. If it’s true the Dodgers are willing to trade Yasiel Puig, the Phils and Dodgers may actually have something to talk about. Puig is young, affiordable and exactly the kind of energy the Phils need to boost their rebuilding program into a much higher orbit. Hamels could be the one addition that gets the Dodgers to the world series in 2015.
The phillies don’t have enough talent to land Yasiel Puig. Hamels + Nola and JP Crawford still isn’t enough for Puig.
that is why I said the dodgers will pony up and trade for hamels with Urias being the main piece and probably along with zach lee and others, If they added hamels would put them ahead of the nationals possibly for the world series odds in vegas and also they will have insurance if greinke does opt out.
Dodgers are not trading Urias. Puig for Hamels straight up? Now that could be interesting.
no way puig for hamels not even close, Urias I really do believe will be traded, imo the dodgers are going to decide do they want a 3 month rental or do they want hamels to have insurance incase greinke does opt out. It’s between seager or urias as the main piece to be traded, the dodgers already have kershaw locked up for 6 years, and they are in win now mode, and hamels will put them over the top. just saying or do they go and look at sonny gray.
Puig for Hamels straight up would be a trade that would significantly benefit both teams. The Dodgers would get their world series this year and the Phils would get the young and affordable star they need to rebuild their team around. The fact Puig bats right-handed should not be an issue for the Dodgers who are in first place in their division despite the fact Puig has been on the DL. Since last year, there has been quiet talk about the Dodgers considering a Puig trade because he is a highly energetic and instinctive ball player who doesn’t always play cautiously or do things by the book. Mattingly has his agenda and Puig apparently has a slightly different agenda. The Dodgers will not trade Pedersen or Seager because they need both players right now. Urias has long been bundled in the same untouchable group as both players and there’s no reason to believe the Dodgers will give up a young lefty who is still not ready for prime time when they need an experienced lefty, like Hamels, this season. Puig for Hamels straight up, although the amount of money changing hands may enter into the trade negotiations.
Just saying it would be an ok deal , but I bet Amaro would ask for more in return like a couple prospects
I don’t buy it. Trading Puig for anybody means an entire season of Ethier in RF. Not that he isn’t having a great comeback season but the Dodgers do have to be wary not only of how long this production can continue but where it leaves them in the OF beyond 2015.
Since the angels are looking for a left handed bat, what would it take for them to get Ethier off the dodgers hands, I know the dodgers want pitching, santiago and wilson are doing great right now and Santiago is the best pitcher right now outside of richards.
Dunno but I think Ethier is still more expendable than Puig in the Dodgers’ immediate and longer term plans. Ethier was a fire sale item before the season started but his value has come up some since then, to say the least. Puig for the moment is damaged goods. It’s tough to deal anyone off the DL.
I don’t think Ethier would cost much but I did read the angels were looking to get ben revere but then I read somewhere that the Amaro was asking for tropeano/heaney/newcomb for him, like really revere does not have a lot of value, I can see trading one of those 3 for hamels but not revere
The return for Ethier would depend a great deal on how much the Dodgers were willing to write down his salary. My guess is they’d pay a big part if not all of it to get the right player.
How about C.J Wilson or Hector Santiago plus a prospect for Ethier, I know Dipoto prolly won’t make that kind of deal to lose out on their pitching depth but one of those two would bring back a nice return.
Something like that could conceivably work for both teams, with Wilson being perhaps the more likely since the Dodgers could use their financial clout to absorb salary on both sides of the deal.
that can work , then the angels could call up tropeano or heaney if one of them were to be traded. but i’m still not counting the dodgers out in getting hamels.
I’m not either, but I’d give the Dodgers an edge in any trade where they can use dollars as leverage. Unless a market much beyond the Dodgers fails to develop for Hamels then I see the Phillies demanding (and probably getting) more talent in exchange for him then the Dodgers are prepared to give up.
Urias or Seager would be the main piece, But I think they would pony up and trade Urias.
Maybe Urias, though I would hope not. With no incumbent at SS, I cannot see them trading Seager for anybody.
Which is why Urias is expendable since they have kershaw tied up for 6 years as their ace, and then if they do pony up and trade for hamels they have insurance incase greinke does opt out and I really think he does, He’s having a cy young type season while kershaw looks human and not superman right now.
Urias or Seager would be the main piece, But I think they would pony up and trade Urias.
No sure thing that Hamels gets moved. The price is unlikely to come down. Many teams could just go with what they have.
LAD shopped and could not find any takers for Ethier in the offseason at half-price. I would have to think Friedman would be thrilled to have an opportunity to sell high on him, now when Puig returns.
You also have to wonder how Puig’s lack of “Baseball Maturity” would set with a manager like Ryno (it doesn’t always seem to set too well with Mattingly). Enthusiasm only goes so far. When enthusiasm overtakes common sense and leads to repeated miscues on the field, managers tend to get upset. Another consideration is his historically low production at the end of each year. Each of his first two seasons he has become a .240 hitter with minor power after game 100. His first season he played 40 games in the minor leagues and after his 60th game with the Dodgers he dropped significantly and production. His second season in the show he became a .245 hitter after game 100. I don’t know if that has to do with his conditioning and being accustomed to a 90 game season in the CNS or whether it is mental but it has happened each year.
Puigs “instinctive” play might be what precludes him from being any teams building block. Philly isn’t a small market…if they want an experienced building block they have money coming off the books and they can go shopping.
Jimmy Rollins was a mainstay of the Phillies for many years and was still booed and openly criticized and given the nicknames “J-Pop” and “Jimmy-Jogs” for his tendencies to pop up while trying to crush the ball when a base hit is all they needed as well is his tendency to jog to first base on ground balls. I can imagine the reaction of some fans when Puig runs himself into and out at second base or decides he can consistently ignore the cutoff man. It would not be a pretty scene at the ballpark.
That was my thinking on Puig in Philly. The Phillies want a cornerstone it likely needs to come from the system…but if not he needs to be a grinder. A guy like Paul Konerko would have been an excellent Phillie
I can see this trade happening with a couple of other players involved, Cole Hamels, J.P. Crawford for Puig, Darnell Sweeney, and Chris Reed. But you’re correct the Dodgers aren’t including Urias or Seager in any deal.
I wonder how Puig would react/play w. his team in the cellar? Philly Phans are some of the worst in the best of times, so that combo may be scary.
I don’t think either team makes that move, but it’d be entertaining in Philly.
Amaro would want prospects along with Puig if it were to happen
To be fair, Amaro isn’t the most rational guy. He has lucked into looking good with the way he has handled Hamels….which is straight up dealing this year. I’m not sure Amaro will be able to get out of his own way to actually complete a good trade for Hamels.
Hamels is on fire right now, I really do think the dodgers pony up and make the deal for him.
Why would they trade Urias when that system is stocked with lower ranked guys who could get the deal done? Jose De Leon is flying into most prospect sites top 50 and Grant Holmes is impressing during his 1st full season after being a preseason top 100 for most baseball media outlets.
Good luck to you if you put the most valuable object in the world up for sale, and nobody has the money to buy it. What good is it then? At some point, you have to take the best deal the market has to offer in terms of value and fit if you want to cash it in. Otherwise, you are keeping it.
Same issue Phillies fans have been dealing with for the past few years with their guys.
Except the Dodgers are in contention and trading Puig would hurt this year’s team. Phillies haven’t been above .500 since 2011. Winners rarely sell off their best assets.
It’s really doubtful that Friedman was looking to hurt this year’s team when he said he would entertain offers for any player including Puig.
Should have kept Andrew Heaney. The Dodgers must be waiting for super 2 to promote Zach Lee, I don’t see them finding a better quality pitcher in the open market.
the angels got a steal in that trade, look at heaney now he’s like 5-1 with an era like 3.86 , and I see him up with the club in september.
3.86 is not a good ERA, especially for a 23 year old “top prospect” in AAA. Won-loss record means absolutely nothing. He is struggling in AAA. Opponent average of .288 and a WHIP of 1.41. He is a Jonathan Niese type starter at best. That is not a “steal” for Howie Kendrick, who continues to be consistently one of the best 2B in MLB, and whose departure has left a gaping hole in the Angels’ lineup.
Niese of the past 2 years…or Niese of the past 4-5 starts? The former…meh, the later…OUCH.
The angels got a young starting pitcher with a lot of upside , If he was on the team right now, that era is better then avg. Just give heaney time and he will work out well in the angels rotation. plus their triple a park is very hitter friendly and the big A is one of the best pitchers parks in baseball
Guaranteed, or your money back? Really, upside is one of the most overused terms in baseball, right along with overpaid.
We are talking 3.86 in the PCL, are we not? PCL is a Hitters league.
Agreed a very hitters league with a lot of hitter friendly parks, put him in at angels stadium , a pitcher friendly park.
They would have 0 decent second basemen if they had kept Heaney.
I guess Guerrero and Turner are bums in your book. Heaney + Guerrero/Turner at 2B >>> Frias as your 5th starter + Kendrick.
Guerrero cannot play 2B, ever. Turner could maybe get away with a month or two at 2B. Turner is much better suited to 3B, Guerrero is best suited as a DH. Frias is only the 5th starter due to injuries to Ryu and McCarthy, which were unforeseeable at the time of the Kendrick trade.
Im curious to know why you believe Guerrero cannot play 2B. Do you have any reports on his defense there? Turner is solid at 2B, we are just going to disagree on that. Pitchers get injured every year, they should have foreseen that.
I believe that there are three teams that can make a deal to get sonny gray, the dodgers cubs and the wildcard the pirates.
The Royals are averaging over 10,000 more fans a game than last year and generating millions of extra dollars in ticket sales, concessions, merchandise, etc. The owner David Glass has to be realizing that putting a winning team on the field and spending more money pays off. Why not go after Cole Hamels if the Phillies are willing to eat a good part of his contract and have him as your ace for the next 3-4 years.
that would be really interesting , the phillies said they would eat some of the contract but not most of the contract. they would have to come up with a good deal to get him , If they did that would change the outcome of the al central for the royals, I think they still have enough fire power to win the central over the tigers.
I don’t think it’s happening because I don’t think KC will want to send the talent it would take to get him. Why not just resign James Shields last off season? They are about to lose the Hosmer/Moustakas wave and need to not shell the system. I just think they can be outbid….. Especially if the Phils are shipping cash
And the only way the Phillies are shipping cash is if the return in talent is beyond significant.
That’s the impact the Phillies need. I’d ship cash to open the market up. They can manage that.
Agree. The idea of Phillies shipping cash to get better prospects doesn’t seem to help make it work with KC.
I’ve said it around here to the umpteenth degree….but if I’m the Rockies gm
..I’m not sure I don’t jump into this Hamels melee and try to pull down a starter I’d never be able to nab on the market
This is David Glass… The guy who was also the owner through much of the 90’s and 00’s wasteland. He’s a long way from being off the hook I have him on.
It seems that every team that can’t or won’t acquire an Ace by the deadline is going to trade for Aaron Harang. I’m sure that there must be other trade targets out there, but the writers don’t seem to be looking for them.
guys like Harang Kazmir Mike Leake Mat Latos Dan Haren will be valuable because they won’t cost the contender that much.