7:50pm: Rockies GM Jeff Bridich says that he’s had congratulatory and “what-are-you-looking-for” types of chats with the Mets, but no talks about Tulowitzki, MLB.com’s Thomas Harding reports. A source tells Patrick Saunders of the Denver Post that the two sides haven’t discussed the star shortstop, though the Mets could be discussing Tulowitzki internally. (Both links are to Twitter.)
3:43pm: The Mets just announced a two-year deal for Michael Cuddyer, but Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports reports that he isn’t the only significant right-handed bat that has the team’s eye. The Mets have had recent discussions with the Rockies about shortstop Troy Tulowitzki, Passan tweets. While they fear that they cannot afford to add him, the two sides are talking. Newsday’s Marc Carig spoke to a source who characterized the talks as “due diligence” at this point (Twitter link).
A move for Tulowitzki would be expensive both financially and in terms of prospects, but the Mets do have a large stockpile of the type of young pitching which the Rockies covet. Noah Syndergaard, Zack Wheeler, Matt Harvey, Jacob deGrom and Rafael Montero all offer varying degrees of upside, and none have even reached arbitration to this point. (Syndergaard has yet to even reach the Majors.) Jon Niese is on an affordable contract, and Dillon Gee has yet to become overly expensive.
While it’s a lot to read into the situation at this time, a Tulowitzki acquisition would mean doubling down on a pair of injury-prone right-handed bats, as he and Cuddyer have both struggled to stay on the field in recent seasons. Tulowitzki is owed $20MM annually through 2019, plus a $14MM salary in 2020 and at least the $4MM buyout of his $15MM club option for the 2021 season. That adds up to a sum of $118MM over the next six years, so it’s not hard to see why the club isn’t certain it can afford to acquire him.
Still, the Mets are better positioned than most clubs to take on a long-term commitment, at least in terms of the other long-term pacts already on the books. David Wright’s extension was front-loaded, and $20MM salary drops to $15MM in 2019 and $12MM in 2020. That contract is the only one on the books for the Mets beyond 2017, though Curtis Granderson will earn $16MM in each of the next two seasons and $15MM in 2017.
Shocker. Can’t see it happening with atleast 2 of Wheeler, Syndergaard, DeGrom or Montero going to the Rox.
That escalated quickly
Rockies would have to kick in some serious cash for that deal to work.
It’s a shame that a team located in New York City can’t field the payroll that teams in Cincinnati or Milwaukee do. The Wilpons should not be allowed to own a team if that’s the best they can do.
I believe that what OP was getting at is that Tulo’s massive salary means that it would be unlikely for the Mets to take on the whole thing in a trade, given how frugal they’ve become in recent years. That frugality is a problem in a lot of cases, but I think it’s pretty reasonable given Tulo’s injury problems and the massive scale of the contract.
Tulo played 93 games last year and was still worth 5 war. Despite his injury risk he’s still worth every penny of that contract.
If Rockies want prospects they’ll need to kick in cash. I just can’t see why the Mets would have to give up 2-3 top prospects for a player owed 120mm when they can sign Hanley for probably around the same price and give up only a second round pick.
Hanley is no longer a shortstop, Mets can do whatever they want but Tulo despite his injury risk is an elite player and he’s worth that package and salary. And I’m not a Rockies fan, just a casual observer.
Pretty sure he is a shortstop; league average defensively, but thats not why the Mets need Hanley. Also, they’ve been getting below league average d at short with last in the MLB offense.
Hanley is the second worst defensive shortstop in the league behind Yunell Escobar. And over the long term Hanley’s defense will only continue to erode.
Agreed, the Madoff excuse was just that. An excuse. The Wilpons cashed in during the last decade.
If the Mets pull off a decent deal for Tulo I take everything back I said about the Cuddy signing.
What would they have to do with each other? They could have just traded for Tulo…
MLB prohibits the trading of draft picks, and by the Mets signing Cuddy it gives the Rockies an extra draft pick. Outside the box thinking to facilitate a deal for Tulo.
Still can’t see a 30-something overall pick playing a huge role other then a 3rd-best piece of the deal.
It’s still essentially a first round pick and those picks are very valuable to many teams.
If this is part of the deal, terrible idea. The comp pick belongs to the Rockies now, it’s not up for negotiation, even though the deal is not complete. That’s terrible bargaining.
I think that’s just a fan rationalizing/conspiracy theory.
Why does everyone think that pick being given to Colorado has something to do with TULO to the mets?
Because who gives a 15 overall pick up to sign a 36 year old, injury prone, should-be-DHing left fielder?
He did hit .332 and look I’m skeptical too I mean he played at Coors and was injury prone but the mets management knows that with all this pitching the time to contend is now they have to start bringing people to the park and creating excitement Alderson won’t be here forever
If he hits .275 with 15 hrs, 80 RBI I’ll be happy.
I agree, he is friends with David Wright!
It’s irrelevant to the Rockies who signed Cuddyer. Once he turned down the QO, the Rockies pick is locked in after the 1st round regardless of where Cuddyer signs.
Unless he’s signed by a team with a top 10 pick
Think of it this way the Rockies trading Tulo, and Cuddy to the Mets for a draft pick, and whatever other pieces are included for Tulo.
Met fans don’t. We know the owners won’t spend money.They let Reyes walk due to his game relying on legs and his injury history along with not wanting to pay 20 million to a SS.I doubt they will give up prospects for Tulo when they let a homegrown guy walk for similar price tag.
Francesca on WFAN said his sources say there is no deal for Tulo, I think his contract is too rich for the Mets blood!
Think of it this way the Mets gave up a first rounder to talk to the rockies about Tulo. Kind of like how the old posting system worked
Makes sense, but the Mets and Alderson don’t have it in their blood to trade for Tulo
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Yeah, and lets say the Rockies and Mets don’t get a deal done? Or the Rockies just say forget about it. Who do the Mets cry to? Last I checked there wasn’t any organized crime doing protection in the MLB; well outside of Selig’s investigations anyway.
Exactly what i was going to say. Im starting to get a little excited with all the new info startibg to settle in.
It seems like the Mets could have given the Rockies a first round pick as part of the trade
mlb does not allow trading draft picks
I know that. The Mets already gave the Rockies a draft pick from Cuddyer so it wouldn’t be a direct draft pick trade,
I hope it gets done, and quickly. I can’t wait to see who gets hosed, because somebody is getting hosed.
The mets will be hosed. They’re not getting him unless they give up wheeler or Noah. I’ve already told myself that. I’d offer Niese Gee montero flores and Marcos Molina another power pitchin prospect who pitched well and has a on of potential and see if that at least is possible. I wouldn’t want him at the expense of Noah or Zack. And the fact that the Yankees think they have a shot if the Rockies accept any of those “prospects” from the Yankees they’ll be hosed.
Isn’t a bit typical for a Mets fan to throw the Yankees into a conversation that has nothing to do with the Yankees? Meanwhile,instead of giving the Rockies the type of value they covet, you instead want to give them Dillon Gee and Jonathan Niese. Yeah, that’ll work.
isn’t it like a Yankee fan to bash the Mets. I remember the fans being upset that Harvey hit Cano and said it was on purpose. 5 months later and people said good ridden to Cano and saying Harvey will go to the Yanks because he grew up a Yankee fan.Jeter was a Yankee fan but he didn’t take a discount to stay as one. Players will go where the money is and that’s it.
The whole thing is everybody knows Tulo wants to play for the Yankees, he has said that many times!
Show me once.
You would rather keep Noah Syndergaard than trade him for an MVP at the scarcest position in the league.
Sandy has brainwashed you well.
if the mets give up good pitching for Tulo, i’ll renounce them. the guy screams months of the DL
90 games of Tulo is about as good as 320 games of Ruben Tejada.
But does it equal all the pieces the Mets would give up to obtain him? Keep in mind that Starting Pitchers face on average 700-800+ batters over the course of a season. You really want to miss out on Thor or Wheeler being the next big thing, and not only the other pieces too? Tulo is too big an injury risk…
You don’t know what it’ll take to get him. Right now the Mets have alot of sheep, they badly need wheat. The Rockies have some wheat and they want some sheep. We aren’t giving all the sheep, just a little of the excess. Just because the sheep your trading could end up being really useful to the rockies doesn’t mean its a bad trade; it’s a win win for both teams. At this point.
except Tulo isn’t wheat. his away splits aren’t worth the money he’s owed and the risk
Wheat is offense. He is offense. HE is wheat =D. We need offense. This is Catan.
you guys are stuck with him. no one is going to send players to denver and take on his salary
I’m a Mets fan; I agree Denver should kick in some salary relief if they want prospects. I’m just saying DL or not Tulo makes the Mets so much better.
The Rockies also need a young catcher, so don’t forget about Plawecki who is a top 50 catching prospect in AAA. I think him and Syndergaard (over Wheeler and deGrom) is the starting point. If it does happen that first round pick may have been part of it.
Plawecki, Flores, Syndergaard. That would be a huge haul for Colorado: basically, three good pieces for a part-time player (albeit a great one). And $20 million per in savings. I bet the three above average more WAR per year than Tulo for the next five years.
True, but Flores (not really a SS and blocked by Murphy/Herrera/Reynolds at 2B) and Plawecki (blocked by d’Arnaud) are not as big in the Mets plans anyway. Syndergaard could be a big loss even with the Mets’ pitching depth, but Tulo makes them a win now team.
I think Flores 2B, Rutledge SS is an acceptable defensive middle infield. And they can both hit. Plawecki would be an above average hitting C for the Rockies, and Syndergaard their ace.
You are right that, given how hard it is to get contender-quality bats, they probably have to take a risk.
Okay so where does Gold Glove winner DJ LeMahieu fit into your “acceptable” middle infield?
He has a .600 ops at 2b where half the games are played at the most hitter friendly park in the league; you want to win games or gold gloves?
Since the park is hitter friendly, perhaps you don’t need all 8 hitters to have a huge OPS. A strong defense-first second baseman is offset by an extremely offensive oriented shortstop. Wilin Rosario is a really good hitter (well not this year but you get my point) and I would argue that his bad defense cost the Rockies more runs than his good offense produced.
Could see Murphy being traded to the Rockies. His contract expires this year and he is eligible for FA; he would certainly receive a qualifying offer barring a career ending injury and that would give the Rockies another 1st round draft pick; also gives Mets salary relief, slot Flores or Herrera at second.
How about Wheeler, Plawecki, and Nimmo?
It won’t be Nimmo. The mets went after Cuddyer to fill the time before Nimmo comes to the bigs.
Precisely. Unless Rockies kick in cash Mets will not trade any arms that are currently on the big league roster outside of Gee.
Or Colon, who the Rockies wouldn’t want.
They’ll probably get a ML pitcher in the deal to boot. Niese for monetary reasons or Gee. I can’t see Colon going since he is an extreme flyball pitcher. I’m not seeing Wheeler, deGrom going. Would they deal Harvey just to get the headache of him and Borris out of there lives?
Not Harvey. Too much talent to give up just to get Boras out of there. The Rockies would likely have to be the ones to add something to get Harvey.
Yes, I see Harvey as a pain in their side, DeGrom is the guy to watch!
Harvey is the key to their future. If he and Boris give them a headache, they’ll take Tylenol.
Mets will only trade Harvey for the entire Rockies team, and their affiliates. Mets unlikely to trade Niese because he is their only lefty, that leaves Gee.
I’d take that bet. Considering that even with his injuries Tulo had more 5.0 WAR years in the past 8 seasons (6) than Derek Jeter had in his entire career (5).
As far as the prospects go, I direct you to the names of Drew Pomeranz and Alex White the last time the Rockies brought in “can’t miss” pitching prospects for their big name. I’m not saying Syndergaard won’t succeed, but more have failed than have succeeded. The Rockies also have two really good catching prospects in Tom Murphy and Ryan Casteel so Plawecki would just be a slight improvement. Flores seems like he is destined to be a utility guy in the bigs.
Most ” can’t miss” prospects disappoint. Even the good ones end up like Greg Jeffries.The ones who hit are the ones who become superstars. Noah could be one, but the odds are against it. The Rockies are currently not going anywhere with Tulo. Time to roll the dice.
Mets should get Car Go too!
Really go for the Gusto.
Where would CarGo play?
I have no idea, but they should get him!
I like it! He’ll go play shortstop!
Would it be like baseball video games where if you put a lefty in at a non OF/1B position, they magically turn right handed?
Special assistant to the medical trainer. Where he has the most experience!
LF. Blindfold grandy and send him and his contract over to Japan or to Jason bays house so they could discuss what what wrong when they came here
center field :P~
They like Largares. Plus CarGo shouldn’t play CF anyways in that big park.
That was a joke 🙂
Wow Wow Wow
Wilpons are showing us they love their fans!!!
Anyone have a feeling that the Rockies gave the QO as part of the Cuddyer trade! It’s kinda old Cuddyer rejecting the QO unless the round one pick was part of the deal!
The Mets lost the 15th pick in order for the Rox to gain a pick in the 30s. This was not a prearranged deal. Think about it.
Sarcasm?
I give the over/under on combined games played next year at 162
I’m not sure I’m down with the plan of adding older, often-injured, past their prime players. To me it seems they could find a young SS (maybe deal with the Cubs?) instead of adding a guy who is only likely to play half a season.
really? really? is the gm in this too?
In related news the Mets have announce the team will change its name to: “The New York Mets Formerly of Colorado”
Because they have two players?
Because their entire offense will depend on two players from Colorado
No… Most will depend on a healthy David Wright, d’Arnaud building off his second half, Duda continuing to rake and Granderson bouncing back
I have an advanced degree in Satire and Sarcasm from Professional Gentlemen’s Mustache and Monocle University. I’m gunna waive my professional fee and just let you know for free that WhoKilledTheRallyMonkey was joking……
I will also add in a harrumph…good show sir
Well that would put my mind at ease
Better than the “New York Mess of Flushing,” which they’ve been the last few years.
hmm. Tulowitzki and Chacin for Tejada, Wheeler/Syndegaard and Gee/Niese. That would give the rockies 2 solid starters and that is the only way i see a deal (for tulo or gonzalez) getting done.
Lol. Zero chance. Tejada is terrible, and both Gee and Niese are overrated and are a product of Citi Field. Career ERA+ of under 100 for each.
Did some more research on Niese/Gee. I saw them (especially niese) as very solid starters, but you are correct about their ERA+. Also, their home-road splits are pretty bad over the past 2 years. This comes as a bit of a suprise to me as their basic stats (ERA…) are pretty solid.
Yes, Tejada is not that good, but someone is going to have to play short for the Rockies (Adames/rutledge might be a possibility)… And i don’t see them signing Hanley/Asdrubal/Lowrie since they are wanted by a lot of other teams as well.
Rockies will not want Tejada. They would take Flores over him, but obviously not as a centerpiece.
Unless the Rox are really desperate to dump the salary, the a Mets (or whoever) is going to have to pay a big premium here. The Rox only trade him for players who can help them win in the future while also being cost-controlled. Tejada, Gee, and Niese simply do not fit that definition.
Is it possible for the Mets to offer Colorado either Wheeler or Syndergaard (lets say Wheeler) and say that in order to get Wheeler the Rockies would have to take on the rest of Granderson’s contract. Mets could add additional piece or two such as Kevin Plawecki, Wilmer Flores and perhaps a Jennry Mejia. I am thinking that Granderson would rake in Coors field and be a great clubhouse and veteran leader. Mets would sacrifice one of their young pitchers and inherit a large contract but they would be willing to do so because it enables them to escape one of the few large contracts they already have.
nope, the mets just hired kevin long
In the words of Cleveland…”No, no, no, no, NO!!!”
this is basically not happening without Thor, Montero, and Plawecki in a best case scenario for the Mets I don’t think
I wouldn’t give up very much for Tulo. I just can’t see him being the elite player he’s been with the Rockies with the Mets; not because of the field, but because of his age and the serious hip surgery he recently had. Just a gigantic risk.
The Colorado Mets of Flushing Meadows
oh dang?!
Wheeler will head to Colorado in any deal for Tulo.
The mets cannot have Cuddyer be their big offseason splash. A trade for Tulo makes so much sense. They have the pieces and the money (they should at least) to do it. Trade Syndergaard, Herrera, Tejada, and Plawecki. They still have Montero, Matz, Molina, Nimmo, Conforto, Smith, and Rosario. He is the type of player you take a risk for because the reward is that great!
Tulo isn’t worth what acquiring would cost any team. If he had no injury history, maybe.
He is the best shortstop in baseball, he is worth it. Name a SS that is better. He can bat 3 and give great defense
I’m not basing my statement on how good Tulo is. When he is actually on the field, I’m aware. Simply the fact that Colorado is only dealing him if they completely glut a farm system.
Ian Desmond has also won the last three NL silver sluggers’ at SS.
He will cost 3 prospects and maybe one lesser prospect, someone like leathersich or mazzoni or someone. You don’t know what these prospects will do in the majors, Tulo is proven and you do what you need to to get him
Just saying for the Mets they are at minimum likely losing two of Harvey/Syndegaard/DeGrom/Wheeler for the Rox to part with him. Not worth it and the Mets won’t do it.
Tulo is the best SS when HEALTHY, Tulo hasn’t reached 600 PA since 2011 which severely limits how valuable he is. Tulo has average 117 games per season for his career. Basically any team with Tulo needs to plan on the backup SS playing for 1/3 of the season.
I am not saying he is not risky but he is the type you take the risk on. Why continue settling for lesser players. Act like the big market team they should be and stop playing 2nd fiddle to the yanks.
Mets doing what they do best…wasting talent to take on more money, which gets them nowhere as usual lol
Not sure I like this for either team, assuming the deal would be built around one or more of the pitching prospects. I think the Mets would be better served to try and sign someone like Lowrie, Drew, (maybe even Hanley?) and stand pat with all those arms. I think that would be a competitive team. On Colorado’s side, I don’t think I would give up Tulowitzki to bring pitching prospects to Coors where you never know what could happen.
I rather take the 6 years and $114 Million and try to make a play for Hanley with that money. If they do decide the trade route I hope it is Castro not Tulo.
P.S.- What do you think Hanley gets on the open market?
P.P.S- The Mets also would not lose a first round pick because they already gave it up.
I get the offensive value may be pretty close, but where do you put Hanley in 2 years when he not only has bricks for hands, but range like he has cement shoes?
Second? Left field when Cuddyer’s gone?
Syndergaard+Plawecki+Nimmo+Reynolds…I’d do it. If they wanted someone like Niese, I’d throw it in too. Hopefully the Mets would get some cash in exchange.
I would be more inclined to trade Wheeler and I think part of the issue is that Colorado does not want to eat any of the salary
If Colorado was committing to a rebuild enough that they’d trade Tulo, they would definitely eat some of it. They wouldn’t be able to get a good return if they didn’t.
New GM and his first move is to trade the franchise player. So he might require the farm to pry Tulo because Colorado’s gm cant afford to look bad
Dan O’Dowd’s first moves in Colorado were to trade Bichette and Castilla. New GMs like to put their impression on a franchise not ride the same losing train that cost the predecessor his job.
A team deep into rebuilding that is finally beginning to be competitive, is supposed to trade 3 of its plum prospects that they’ve been waiting on, for a guy on the wrong side of 30 with an astronomical contract that has been one of the most injured position players in MLB for years?
This reads a bit like the Lakers trading with the Suns for Steve Nash. What could possibly go wrong?
Just trade for Alexei Ramirez instead.
No reports of him on the trading block. That last report was about teams interested. Teams are interested in certain players all the time (Stanton comes to mind) but it doesn’t mean they are available.
this trade would all be relative to what the Mets would be giving up to be completely honest. no matter what though, I would be absolutely ecstatic as a Mets fan if Tulowitzki were to be acquired
Obvious trading partners are obvious. Mets have needed a SS for awhile now while, Colorados pitching IS the reason why theyre not contenders.
But, knowing the Rockies. They will try to deplete the entire plethora of Mets pitching prospects in order to let their star Tulo go.
Sorry Yankees fans and their dreams of Tulo as their SS but the Mets are really the only team that can entice Tulo away from Colorado.
Don’t lose any sleep over this, he won’t be a Met. His desire is to be a Yankee, everyone knows this and contrary to popular belief the Yankees do have pieces to get him. Judge, Severino, Bird, Sanchez, Clarkin Lindgren and maybe lesser prospects such as Williams, Banuelos or Bichette Jr. He either stays with Colorado or goes to the team he WANTS to play for and it’s not the Mets.
Desire might be to be a Yankee..though I see no point in him voicing that opinion publicly. Yankees might not have the return for him now. Of course, he and they can wait out the contract and the Yanks can use him as an aged corner infielder.
News flash buddy. Tulowitski isn’t a free agent. The Rockies can trade him to any team they want whether he likes it or not, Yankees farm already blows and there roster is filled with aging players. Do you realy think they will trade their already depleated farm system away for an aging injury prone player? LOL. Tulo will not play for the Yankees unless they want to sign him as a 37 year old free agent
Yanks don’t have the pitching prospects the Rockies would want.
Who?
Strange, the Mets are the only ones giving a first round draft pick for him!
i really don’t understand this. if they need to move payroll to sign cuddyer, how do they pay for Tulo? And what’s the point of building up a vaunted farm system only to diminish it for a player you may not be able to afford?
Everyone calm down he has been very open about wanting to play for the Yankees. So if he plays for a NY team it will be them not the Mets. The question is do the Yankees get involved.
True but the mets can offer a far better package. There is no debate about that
Sure, the Mets can offer a better package, but ‘will they’ is a better question. I could see the Yankees mortgaging part of their future, the Mets not so much.
Severino, Sanchez, Clarkin and Williams may get it done. He has openly spoken about his desire to play for the Yanks and the owner has such a good relationship with him it’s been rumored that he will try to accommodate him as much as he can. I don’t think Colorado would be dumb enough to trade him within the division so I could be wrong but I think he stays, or goes to the Yankees. With St . Louis being a dark horse but u are right, the Mets would be able to offer the better package.
they want betances, they have made that evident
I don’t see a no-trade clause in his contract according to Cot’s, so it doesn’t really matter what Tulo’s preference is unless Colorado chooses to ask him.
Reports are that because of how close he and the owner are, he will have a say irregardless of the fact he’s not a 10/5 guy.
Noah Syndergaard trumps any and all friendships when it comes to baseball… especially when you’re the guy shelling out 118 million dollars to say no
The player has no say in this situation. The Rockies will deal him to the team that gives them the best offer. I do the Yankees have the pieces to get it done but I don’t think they should trade the 4or 5 prospects it will take for a player who might miss significant time.
Reports released earlier this evening state that even though Tulo doesn’t have a no trade clause, they will allow him to dictate where he goes and his choices are NYY, SF and LAD and I have a hard time believing they will trade him within the division.
20 mil a year for a guy who has averaged 117 games played per season for his career doesn’t seem like a good idea. He just turned 30. Doubt he suddenly shakes the injury bug. It’s a shame, too. He would have been one of the all time greatest shortstops if he could have staid on the field.
How about 20 million a year for a guy with more 5.0 WAR seasons (6) in eight seasons even with those injuries than Derek Jeter (5) had in his entire career?
As much as I would love Tulo, I sort of selfishly want to see the young pitchers stay with the Mets. Statistically speaking, all of them most likely will not work out. But just as a fan, I’m pretty eager to see a very cheap rotation of Harvey, Syndergaard, Wheeler, and deGrom. Toss in a guy like Matz in 2016 and I’m excited.
I’m not as attached to Montero, and Niese and Gee have pretty much proven to be average. Seeing as it would take a lot more than any of these three (even if you added Plawecki and others), I’d probably pass on Tulo. He’s amazing (especially in his small sample at Citi), but the injuries have been piling up, he’s 30, and six more pretty expensive years seems like a lot. I’m thinking more as a fan than as a GM would, but I’d pass on Tulo if the asking price included Wheeler, Syndergaard, or deGrom.
Please dont sign Tulo. Very injury prone, and way too expensive. Better off going after Starlin Castro.
No way the Mets can pull this tulo trade with Colorado
They can, but they shouldn’t.
Tulo might go to the Yankees since the Yankees have money
too bad money can’t pitch and that’s what Colorado badly needs right now.
Look if the Rockies want yo trade cargo and tulo the time is now
that’s true.
Still doesn’t change the fact that Colorado badly needs pitching prospects to get out of last place anytime in the next few seasons.
Yankees don’t have enough of them to make a trade happen, the Mets have them in spades.
the money doesn’t factor in to it.
Money’s not the main factor but it can certainly play a role.
not really. Salary relief is pretty much a given no matter who acquires him. There’s probably 10-12 teams more than willing to take on Tulo’s full contract while still being able to offer a better trade package than the Yankees.
Highly doubt that. Don’t think the Mets would take all of Tulo’s salary. And most other teams can’t fit him into their budget.
Tulo for a PTBNL – which has to be Michael Cuddyer.
Red Sox, plese 🙁
Red Sox please 🙁
The only place he can hit is in MILE HIGH and do not want anything to do with that contract
If the Mets take that huge contract, it shouldn’t cost them more than one top pitcher (Snydergaard, Wheeler or de Grom) and one second level pitcher (Niese or Gee), maybe a piece with a contract (Murphy or Colon) and some lower prospects. With that contract it shouldn’t clean out their prospect pool, like a Stanton trade would.
It could cost Murphy and Syndergaard of they take on the entire contract
Is there anyone left to answer the phone in the Colorado front office, or does it ring and ring when other teams call?
They aren’t going after Tulo. I don’t think there’s enough management in Colorado to make that happen right without a circus of teams jumping in. Mets fans need to be looking Alexei Ramirez or Starlin Castro.
I’d give up Thor for Tulo in a heartbeat. The mets also have Steve Matz who is under the radar because he missed time with Tommy John a couple years back but he may be their plbest overall pitcher in the minors. Thor may have upside but Tulo is a once in a generation talent. Yea is health is worrisome, but it’s worth the risk.
If the Mets weren’t willing to pay Reyes because of questions they had about him staying healthy, there’s no way they’ll pay Tulo. This is just hot air they are blowing on the same day they send out a mailer to fans about buying tickets for next season ( I received one).
Just say no Mets! How will his numbers be impacted not playing at Coors? If I’m not mistaken (someone correct me if I am), his numbers aren’t nearly as impressive on the road. Add the price tag and the injury woes and he is not worth gutting the farm over.
Actually, Tulowitzki is the best hitting shortstop in away games in the Majors since 2010. Hanley Ramírez is second. fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=ss&stats=bat&#…
The Rockies are dying to unload tulo. Who are they kidding? They will never be able to rebuild with his contract on the books. They will be lucky to get 1 top prospect and 75% of his remaining salary paid.
Rockies get: Wheeler and Syndagaard
Mets get: Tulowitski and money
Rockies finally fix their pitching problems with young cost controlled pitching. The Mets get the best shortstop and arguably the best player in the game. Rockies are one step closer to contention and the Mets are contenders and arguably NL east favorites and still have a deadly 1 2 punch with Harvey and Degrom
I’d be very interested to hear an argument that Tulowitzki is the best player in the game. I have a feeling if you really thought that, you would have spelled his name right.
Tulo averages between 5-6WAR per season.
Last 5 seasons:
.340/.432/.603 25 hrs
.312/.391/540 21hrs
injured
.302/.372/.544 30hrs
.315/.381/.568 27hrs
He is one of the best players in baseball.
I’d put Trout, Stanton, and McCutchen ahead of this guy. Tulo’s more like Hanley – prodigious talent but made of glass.
Stanton isn’t near Tulo in regards of what each player has done. Just compare their stats then come back to be. Has Stanton ever hit above .300? Besides 2014 has Stanton ever had a WAR over 5? Nope. These are things Tulo does annually
Let’s agree to disagree. I agree Tulo has had the better career but we’re not talking about career – we’re talking about who the better player is.
“Syndagaard”? That Noah’s rap name?
yup
don’t want troy he not worth it go out and get castro
this might sound like a bad idea, but I suggest we trade niese, dillon gee, bartolo colon and maybe rafael montero for tulowitzki
i mean they’ll get 3 good pitchers and maybe and a upcoming pitcher in montero
White Sox need to be talking to Mets & Rockies, don’t know that we have enough trade bait though