The Indians have been active in locking up top young players where possible, with Jason Kipnis, Michael Brantley, and Yan Gomes all receiving lengthy guarantees this spring in exchange for cost savings to the club. But the organization has been much stingier with promising dollars to pitchers. Most recently, the team declined to act on the seemingly reasonable demands of Justin Masterson over the past offseason (before ultimately dealing him away this summer). According to MLBTR’s Extension Tracker, the last time Cleveland promised future money to a big league hurler, Roberto Hernandez was still known as Fausto Carmona. Indeed, he was the last arm to receive an extension from the Indians, way back in April of 2008.
That track record suggests that, as aggressive as the Indians have been in making investments in position players, the club has been wary of doing so with inherently injury-prone pitchers. But whatever risk the team builds into its internal models, at some point it makes sense to pursue a deal. That is especially true when unique bargaining leverage might be had, as the player might be more inclined to take a relatively modest guarantee rather than rolling the dice on his own health.
The reason for that lengthy introduction? The team’s current ace, Corey Kluber. Where does the righty stand on the year? 2.46 ERA over 171 2/3 innings. 9.8 K/9 against 1.9 BB/9, 49.7% groundball rate. 2.43 FIP, 2.69 xFIP, 2.70 SIERA. 5.2 fWAR, 5.2 rWAR. 28 years old. Expected service time at end of 2014 season: 2.074, good for a first run at arbitration in 2016.
Put simply, these are the kinds of circumstances where an extension could make sense for both sides. Cleveland will no doubt be content letting Kluber go out and prove his worth year-to-year, comforted by the fact that he is controlled through his age-32 season. But arbitration can get expensive, and cost limits (as well as cost certainty) might be attractive. The club’s future commitments drop off after 2016, when the Nick Swisher and Michael Bourn deals are up, leaving plenty of space to add some guaranteed dollars. (As things stand, Cleveland has promised just $18.742MM of salary for 2017.)
Meanwhile, for Kluber, a substantial future guarantee would seem to represent a major attraction. As good as he’s been, he had thrown just over 200 MLB innings coming into the season. His strikeout and walk rates are each better now than they ever were over a full minor league season. As a fourth-rounder back in 2007, he was not a bonus baby. And he is still more than a full season away from being paid a fraction of his actual value through arbitration — let alone reaching the open market. And even then, his advanced age would be a major factor. (I looked at the situation of James Shields a few months back, concluding that he would struggle to reach five years at a $20MM AAV in free agency when he hits the market in advance of his age-33 season.) In many respects, Kluber’s situation is not unlike that of the late-blooming Josh Donaldson, with the major difference that Kluber’s earning capacity depends upon the health of a right arm that is subject to immense strain on a daily basis.
What kind of deal might make sense for team and player? It is difficult to find a direct comparable, given Kluber’s rather unique, suddenly-emergent excellence. Kluber’s value is undeniable: he landed at 42nd on Dave Cameron’s list of the game’s most valuable players. But even apart from his poor bargaining position, his age is a major limiting factor on his ability to command big dollars well into the future.
The most recent extension for a 2+ service time starting pitcher was given to Chris Sale of the White Sox before the 2013 season. Sale received a five-year, $32.5MM deal with two option years — the latest example of an oft-copied extension model. (Somewhat notably, Kluber is represented by Jet Sports Management, according to Baseball-Reference, the agency that negotiated Sale’s contract as well as the recent Charlie Morton extension.) More recently, Julio Teheran was able to command $32.4MM over six years from the Braves, while giving up one option year, despite being a year behind on service time.
Those deals guaranteed at least one free agent year, and Cleveland may not be interested in promising any cash for Kluber’s age-33 season. Might the Indians look to promise four years while obtaining two or even three options at a similar guarantee to those contracts? Could the team look to shave something off of the dollars in those packages, possibly in return for reduced future control? Presumably, the key motivation for the team would not be to extend control, but rather to achieve significant cost savings. There are plenty of possibilities, and creative strategies abound to create a fit.
As usual, a motivated club would be the key to striking a deal. Cleveland is in an enviable position with respect to Kluber, who is producing like an in-prime ace (with the peripherals to match) but doing so for a pittance. That situation also brings the temptation of reaching an even better bargain. And surely Kluber’s camp would have to listen hard to any possibilities of signing up for a life-setting payday that might otherwise require plenty more hard work and good luck to achieve. Needless to say, it would be an intriguing storyline to track if either side looks to kick-start offseason negotiations.
Daniel Rajan
Anybody remember the time the Angels almost traded Mark Trumbo for Corey Kluber? Man, he would have helped us out a lot. Hurts even more now that Wilson is struggling and Skaggs is done for the year.
Steve A
Those were just internet rumors.
Metsfan93
I’d say a 5/35 deal could be good for both sides.
TheRealRyan 2
I just don’t know if I see this extension working out. If I was the Indians, I see him as already old and not wanting to pay him coming off of an ace type season without ever really having the pedigree to back up this season’s fantastic numbers. If I was Kluber, I’m not sure if I want to cash in my only real opportunity at a big pay day by giving in and taking a discounted rate, especially after putting up ace type numbers. I could easily see both sides feeling comfortable riding out the arbitration process here.
AmericanMovieFan
He’s 28, meaning he’s just now hitting his stride. If he’s the real deal to any extent, he’s probably going to pitch at this level for another 4-6 seasons, but you don’t get an extension without either letting him hit F/A on time, or extending him well into F/A at fair rates. So with that in mind, and given that he doesn’t hit arbitration until after next season, if I’m the Indians I offer him this extension right now:
2015: $1MM Age 29
2016: $4MM Age 30
2017: $7MM Age 31
2018: $10MM Age 32
2019: $13MM Age 33
2020: $13MM Age 34
2021: $16MM Age 35 OPTION w/ $3MM buyout
2022: $20MM Age 36 OPTION w/ $5MM buyout
That’s a potential total of 8 years/$84MM with 6 years/$51MM guaranteed, or 7 years/$69MM if the 2nd option is bought out.
The way I see it: It makes Kluber rich, it’s very cost effective for the Indians and by the 2020’s, a guy making $16.4MM AAV will be viewed like we currently view guys making $12-14MM today, meaning he’d either be a bargain or fairly priced.
Vandals Took The Handles
Kluber is very possibly the best pitcher in the entire AL, and you and to pay him 1M next year?
TheNextEpstein
Yes, he’s not even arbitration eligible until 2016. Therefore, you don’t have to pay him anymore than the minimum. Club has all the leverage.
AmericanMovieFan
The idea is you give him so much money at a time when he wouldn’t be making any or when there’s no guarantees, that he can’t turn it down. So if he goes 80-50-30 over the next five seasons, you’re getting him for a very reasonable ROI.
BTW- 6 years/$51MM with some options isn’t ridiculous for the Indians. Now, I could see them limiting themselves to his pre-F/A/ seasons and wanting some cost-control and nothing more.
In that case:
4 years/$30MM with no options.
2015: $2.5MM
2016: $5MM
2017: $7.5MM
2018: $15MM
I think Kluber would agree to that as it makes him rich and gives him decent value for a guy who has yet to even reach arbitration.
TheNextEpstein
Seems reasonable. I would think the Indians would make the 2019 and 2020 seasons options though instead of guarantees looking at the extensions they gave brantley and kipnis.
Karl Larson
Keep in mind that Phil Hughes just got a 5 yr/$58 million extension from the Twins.
2015: $9,200,000 (Age 29)
2016: $9,200,000 (30)
2017:$13,200,000 (31)
2018:$13,200,000 (32)
2019:$13,200,000 (33)
This will be an interesting comparison to draw from for a potential Kluber extension.
AmericanMovieFan
This was done post-FA though and done in a way to keep his contract somewhat club friendly. Kluber is in no way in a similar situation. If he goes 16-11 next season, you’re still looking at a massive first year arbitration settlement. If he went year to year he’d probably lock down $35M over 3 years.
Curt Green
Get it done. One less arm the Yankees or Dodgers or Red Sox or Tigers can sign down the road.
Sufferfortribe
Tribe needs to extend Klubot. That way, when he wins the Cy Young award, they won’t have to trade him like they did Lee and Sabathia.
Kenmore resident
Awesome to think that they go thim for Austin Kearns….From the Yankees!!!!! Bet their kicking themselves now.
christopher 2
I dont really see any chance Kluber gets a multi year extension at all……it will be a year at least before Cleveland has any incentive to get anything done…..
BananaMonster
I just get this feeling they need to wait it out and go year to year with him. If he gets too pricey at least you have great trade value. If you keep him at whatever cost you could shovel out $16M or so for his age 32 season but small markets can’t afford big money to bad players
Eric Clark
Seeing the Tim Lincecum and Johan’s of the world collect 20 mil a year is crazy while guys like Kluber and Alex Cobb eat Chunky soups for dinner every night.. Its like a CEO earning less than his secretary, just because the secretary held the job longer.