The Marlins are still hoping to be buyers at next week’s trade deadline, MLB.com’s Joe Frisaro reports. Miami has won five of its last six and have rising optimism, although the team is still eight games out of first in the NL East and 5 1/2 games back in the Wild Card race. They’re interested in a starting pitcher and a second baseman to hit atop the order, although the second baseman might be a player from the high minors rather than a major leaguer.
Unsurprisingly, the Marlins do not have interest in trading Giancarlo Stanton, as Frisaro also notes. If they were to sell, the Marlins would have a number of interesting trade pieces, including Stanton, Casey McGehee, Steve Cishek and Mike Dunn.
Here come all the people who have Stanton deals even though they are not dealing him.
They are always entertaining to read at least. Especially from fans of teams that perpetually overvalue their prospects.
Yeah they sometimes are funny but it can get annoying.
right now, only 10 teams have the prospects to get Miami to LISTEN on Stanton Trade offers. The Orioles, Mariners, Red Sox, Cubs, Astros, Pirates, Dodgers, Mets, Indians and Ranger (the last 3 only have 2/3 top prospects but they are REALLY good) out of the those 10 the Cubs, Astros and Indians aren’t likely to want to give up their best guys for Stanton because they aren’t ready to compete.
I think the Indians are closer to competing than the Mets. I’d have to say the Pirates, Dodgers, Rangers, Red Sox, and Orioles would be the 5 teams most likely to come sniffing with an intriguing package, but if I’m the Marlins it takes the moon before I even pick up the phone.
I totally agree.
Marlins just need to get with the program and trade Stanton already. They are just kidding themselves if they think that they will be able to put a package together to keep him. With their history of stinginess and trying to cut corners, there is no way that Stanton will be there long term. His trade value has never been higher. Might as well sell him off now before something happens (like an injury) and they end up with nothing.
Never been higher?
Well, okay. Then what team out there has enough in prospects and it going to win it all if they indeed acquire Stanton? Plus, he doesn’t appear to be unhappy in Miami. So, I don’t see any reason to trade him.
The only superstar, that I could see being traded is Tulo and that’s because he’s unhappy with not winning. Problem is the owner doesn’t want to trade him.
I live in South Florida and have been watching this Franchise for years. So let’s be clear that I’m not some Homer from another team hoping that he gets traded to my team
So to answer your question as to what team is in it and has enough prospects, I’ll give you two: Cardinals and Dodgers. Both are stacked with quality prospects and are in it. Plus, both have the resources to sign him long term.
I don’t watch this team with Rainbow colored glasses. I understand that the owner is a snake and the President of this club is a weasel. They will not commit to winning if it is going to cost them money. They never had and they never will. Unfortunately, many outsiders haven’t seen this ownership and Front Office systematically annihilating any hopes to build a winning franchise or respecting their fan base. Sorry.
Regardless of whether or not he’s happy, let me ask you this: how many $200 million players have the Marlins signed AND KEPT since they’ve existed?
Thank you. Enough said.
“Unfortunately, many outsiders haven’t seen this ownership and Front Office systematically annihilating any hopes to build a winning franchise or respecting their fan base.”
About half true with the Mets and they are in the biggest market in the United States. Do some research on the Wilpons, the dwindling payroll, and the never ending pseudo rebuilding that has left the Mets with below .500 record the past several years.
Oh please for starters how many $200 million have the marlins had in their existence ? 1, Miguel Cabrera, and not many teams would be able to afford the contract the tigers gave him.
And since you’ve followed this team for years, please tell me what players you would’ve wanted the marlins to keep? Uggla? Johnson? Nolasco? Willis? Burnett? Buck? Sanchez? None of those guys were worth the money they have received and it can be said that we would be a worse team right now if we had kept them around.
If you want to blame the disappointment the franchise has brought point your finger elsewhere such as the failed drafts over the last 10 years or the returns received in some of their trades, especially that of the Miguel Cabrera trade.
Thank you. Enough said.
Precisely. Incompetence from their drafts picks to their FA acquisitions. Which only reinforces the idea that the franchise is incapable of working out a solution to the Stanton dilemma. Yes. I said it. A dilemma. The guy is just too good to waste his career with this franchise. This franchise is set up to build teams around role players- not superstars. Not a bad problem if they knew what they were doing ala Tampa Bay Rays. But they don’t.
That is a tough pill to swallow. But we South Floridians must get used to the building our teams around the “Garret Jones” type role players rather than the Miggys and Stanton’s of the world.
I don’t know if you’ve noticed but our last couple of drafts have been really good since Dan Jennings has taken a more prominent role in the front office. And the Stanton situation is no dilemma, it’s as easy as building around him and the starting rotation and finding success. The marlins have arguably one of the best young outfields in baseball all 24 or younger and and up and coming rotation where all but one are under the age of 25. It is ridiculous to say any franchise builds around “role players” because none of them do even Tampa Bay and Oakland have been able to build around young stars.
I have to agree. It seems like it is trending in the right direction. However, I like to take these things with a grain of salt. One year of positivity doesn’t take away the fact that this team has only ONE season having won 85 plus games in the last ten years with zero playoff appearances. I just can’t see why Stanton stays. So much more will be had if he rides it out and hits Free Agency. Like you said, similar to the Miggy situation, this team will not be able to compete with other teams. They need to trade him now and hope that Dan Jennings gets a better return than Larry Beinfeld did.
This team hangs it’s hat on those two World Series title, which is commendable. But let’s call it for what it is. None of those titles were earned under this ownership. The 2003 Championship, although under this owner, was built by the previous owner before he sold it. Loria kind of fell into it.
While Loria has done questionable things in the past it is ridiculous to blame team performance on him. And the contract Stanton will receive is not close to the one Cabrera did, Stanton’s will be comparable to that of Freddie Freeman’s. And Stanton has seen the potential of this team and has stepped up to take more of a leadership role, all the Marlins have to do to make sure he stays is show they want to be competitive and be buyers this trading deadline and in the offseason.
I have to politely disagree. The only chance they have to keep Stanton is to make winning (or at least improving) a priority. This is the only organization Stanton has ever played for, so offering a big time long term deal AND showing him you are serious about winning is really their only chance. Also, as a lifelong Marlins fan, I have to remember the teams failure to keep Cabrera and then dealing him for Andrew Miller, Cameron Maybin, and pieces. Let’s not see that one happen again.
If he stays healthy, Stanton could command a contract of 10 years/300 million. If Stanton continues to average around 120 games a year, I think he’ll still get a comparable contract. If Stanton doesn’t bite on an extension sometime between now and next year’s offseason, the Marlins would be foolish not to trade him. Even if you only had him for the 2016 season, you’d still probably wind up giving up your #1 and #2 in your system amongst other pieces. I could see the Yankees being the high bidder on Stanton if he reached free agency. They have Teixeira and Beltran’s contract coming off the books after 2016 and Arod’s contract the year after. The Angels, Cubs, and Red Sox would be in there too. The Dodgers would have to clear out some of their outfielders if they wanted to make room for him there.
For both sides, wouldn’t a Stanton to the M’s for Taijuan Walker, Nick Franklin and Jabari Blash make a lot of sense? (Hope this one is entertaining to read. This coming from a fan who has no affiliation with either team.)
The M’s would at least have to add three more prospects to even consider trading for Stanton.
The Marlins would have to ask for a comparable offer they got for Cabrera (not in terms of outcome, but in terms of how those prospects were valued). Maybin and Miller were both Top 10 prospects in 2007. That would mean ANY offer would have to begin with two guys of that caliber. Mariners don’t have two quite that high, but starting with Walker and Peterson would give them some talent. Then they’d have to throw in a few others like Sanchez, Wilson, and Marlette. That may get the Marlins to pick up the phone.
Jim Johnson is available.
I see the Cardinals as the most logical landing spot. With Matt Holliday’s production waning, and Allen Craig’s major slump (that he may never come out of.) They lack a middle of the order bat. Craig and Holliday’s contracts come off the books in 2016 and 2017 respectivly. So, they can afford structure an extension around those contracts. Based on the Marlins trade history, they may not even have to give up Oscar Tavares for him. What a 3-4 combo that would be.
What from the Marlins trade history mad you assume they won’t ask for taveras?
Knowing Jeffery Loria, he’s more concerned about making a profit instead than top players that might become expensive (Tavares).
No matter what prospect he chooses they would all earn the minimum for three years and arbitration won’t make them that much more expensive I mean Stanton only got around 6 million in arbitration and that’s if Taveras puts up that production. And if he wants to make a profit you go for the best players especially when they earn the minimum so I fail to see your point.
The Marlins are one of the teams Cliff Lee *CAN NOT* block a trade to. Presumably because he thought they would never be able to afford him so didn’t have to worry about them trading for him. Phils would need to eat a lot of salary tho.