The Royals have inquired on pitchers they could acquire now and control through 2013, Danny Knobler of CBSSports.com reports. They’ve asked about Matt Garza of the Cubs, who earns $9.5MM this year and will remain under team control for the 2013 season.
The Royals intend to add a significant free agent starting pitcher for 2013 this coming offseason, Knobler reported one week ago. Kansas City's rotation currently includes, Bruce Chen, Luke Hochevar, Luis Mendoza, Everett Teaford and the struggling Jonathan Sanchez.
Though Royals closer Jonathan Broxton is drawing lots of trade interest, the Royals may still try to sign him for 2013 instead of making a trade, Knobler reports. Broxton earns a base salary of $4MM this year and is on track to hit free agency this coming offseason.
Here comes all the Wil Myers for Matt Garza proposals..
But in all honesty, I believe the Royals are a good match for Garza if they are willing to include a Jake Odorizzi or a Mike Montgomery, as Theo is looking for young pitching.
No way. Myers is too big a chip. If the Cubs want a plethora of high-ceiling lefty starter question marks, then they may have found the perfect trade partner.
I never said I would do that trade. I sarcastically stated that Cub’s fans are going to say that. Check those eyes man.
Eyes are fine. Editing the comment to add your sarcasm explanation makes it tough for someone like me who responds to what you initially said.
Odorizzi and Montgomery aren’t even in the same category. Montgomery’s become worthless over the past 2 seasons. I’d love to get Odorizzi and a couple of far-off prospects in a deal, though, but I doubt that’s going to happen.
It’s not a stretch to think Montgomery will be out of baseball by the end of 2013.
That is definitely a stretch. He’s been bad, but not to the point that someone would refuse to give him a chance. There have been many worse players who have gotten shots, I’m sure.
Much more likely to see the Royals trade one of their organizational guys than a guy like Odorizzi for whom they traded. Odorizzi is really our only arm of any caliber that is close to ML ready. Much more likely that Cubs would make this trade if they want a good quantity of low minors talent. Royals don’t have the players in the high minors that they have had in years past.
That might make it more likely, but with the number of people looking for pitching, I’d rather wait and see what I could get elsewhere before taking a package almost entirely of long-term unknowns.
And that’s how you end up with the Jonathan Sanchez’ of the baseball world….
Wil Myers will be four times the player that Matt Garza could ever dream of being, the Royals would never make that trade!
Wil Myers, Jake Odorizzi, Mike Montgomery and cash for Garza and Soriano.
hahahahahaha
At least someone got the joke.
Wait wait wait. You have the ROYALS throwing cash into that trade?
The Cubs got bills to pay.
no
Why would the Royals want Matt Garza now?
They stink!
Sanchez stinks!
He was booed of the field last night.
I can’t believe that trade went as badly as it has for the Royals.
I thought he was going to be at least half decent for them.
It would be silly for the Royals to do it now. Also, why would Garza want to do it?
Going from one bad club to another?
Doesn’t matter what Garza wants!
Sanchez will be no longer on the team I presume, it really is crazy how badly that trade went. I thought turning a waiver pickup in Melky into Sanchez a year later was one of Moore’s greatest moves. Oh well.
And does Garza have a no-trade clause? If not, what does it matter?
“Also, why would Garza want to do it?”
Maybe he wouldn’t, but being as he doesn’t have a no trade clause it really doesn’t matter what he wants.
Garza would be a good fit in KC. I’m all for it, as long as it doesn’t include Myers or Odorizzi
Toronto likely has a better package for Garza than KC. The Royals are a casebook example of why not to necessarily overvalue pitching prospects. Many of them don’t pan out. They are a winter too late into the free agent market. Dayton Moore is incredibly talented as a farm director…but he has yet to prove that he can build a major league team.
I agree with most everything in this comment not including the overvaluing of pitching prospects. Right now nobody wants to get rid odorizzi right? Well Montgomery and Duffy were both valued just as high as him two years ago. Sometimes things work out and other times they don’t. Had the Royals moved either of those two guys a couple years ago, then the fans would have blown a gasket. You acquire as much quality young pitching as you can and then roll the dice. In this case it didn’t work. Hindsight is 20/20. As far as this trade goes, I can’t see anyway it gets done without odorizzi. The Cubs need controllable pitching. The Jays profile as a better trade partner because they could provide better supplementary pieces. Don’t get me wrong, they have some very good pitchers, but a lot of them are a couple years away. I get the feeling the Cubs want guys that are very close to being ready (like odorizzi, turner, miller etc).
You’re right. It’s just hard to make a well rounded post on here and keep it from being a mile long.
The one difference between now and a few years ago is that dealing for pitchers now makes more sense…and I could see it making more sense to the fan base given that there’s a major league offense on the field now as opposed to a few years ago.
You’re right…stockpiling pitching is incredibly important…especially when that is where you are putting the finances of your organization. It does sound like they’ve had to tweek the pitching development a little. They weren’t allowing long toss in the past…etc.
Another thing to consider is that Dayton Moore has likely been trying to make moves and hasn’t been able to accomplish them. He was sideswiped out of Ubaldo Jimenez last summer. It’s not a vaccum for sure…all teams are trying to improve and most place a value on controllable young arms. I’m sure Moore would have liked to brought in Gio Gonzalez as well……and there’s another reason to have a farm system as strong as the Royals have…..the ability to deal.
Duffy still has TREMENDOUS upside, even with the Tommy John surgery. Odorizzi won’t go anywhere, I am almost positive… We would elevate him to KC before we traded him.
If I were the Rays I’d do Myers for Shields….controlled beyond next year. But highly doubt KC would do it. Although Shields can show flashes of brilliance, he really hasn’t this year. But if I’m the Royals, and I’d take Shields over Garza any day.
Shields in his strong seasons has relied heavily on a low BABIP.
Right, so the lack of range on defense this year with all the shuffling going on has hurt him. Honestly not real sure how good Escobar/Moustakas/Betancourt/Hosmer are defensively so maybe the Royals would be confident Shields’ BABIP would decrease if he were to go there.
Escobar is an elite SS. Moustakas seems to be playing a better 3B than anticipated…they generally are strong in the infied and will likely improve with experience. Another thing to add is that Salvador Perez is a top notch defensive catcher…but he does go to the mound a little too frequently so far in his career.
Really, all that seperates the Royals from being a force in the AL Central right now is their dreadful rotation. They could easily be the Pittsburgh of the AL right now if they had something resembling a major league rotation. That’s how good their offense is….I’d say it’s actually better than the Pirate offense.
If they are able to add some starters at the deadline and over the winter….watch out! They will be a serious contender next year…given that the Central is weak anyway.
They could be hovering around .500 if Jonathan Sanchez was half of what they expected. But yes, they need a top of the rotation guy. Duffy seems to be good, but they need a rock. Its possible, but I dont think Greinke comes back. Due to the fact that they’re a relatively small market team, they need to get an ace via trade. They have the assets.
I like them getting an ace via the free agent market this winter. Might be a better route than parting with talent right now. Their days of overslotting during the draft are likely done with..so maybe they will spend this winter.
Dayton Moore would sign Broxton instead of trading him. Then he will be shocked when he regresses.
Hosmer plus a couple of pitching prospects (Odorrizi/Monty/Dyer/Ventura) for Zack and Marcum (must get 24 hour period to renegotiate a long-term deal with Zack or no trade)
No way we will trade Hosmer or Odorizzi, and Dwyer is probably a no, also. I’m sure we would part with Monty in a heartbeat…
No way the Royals trade Meyers. GM Moore has said that there is a list of “untouchable” players in KC right now, and a few in the minors, and Meyers is on that list (as are Gordon, Butler, Escobar, Hosmer, Moustakas, Perez, Duffy, and supposedly Ororizzi). If anything, I could see us trading Clint Robinson, Jeff Francouer, Montgomery, and possibly Giavatella for Garza and another player or cash, although that might be too lopsided in favor of the Cubs still, as C-Rob has a TON of upside, as does Gio…
Why the heck would the Cubs want Jeff Francouer? They want young pitching prospects, not veteran OF’s.
You aren’t going to get Garza for a AAAA first baseman, an aged corner outfielder, declining lefty prospect, and a AAA utility infielder. That’s an absolute joke.
Royals fans have to lose this “we can’t trade anybody” mentality each July. If the Royals are going to acquire a quality starting pitcher with a year+ of team control, the deal will either need to include a young MLB piece (Hos, Escobar, Butler) or several promising low minors players (Cuthbert, Ventura, etc).
You can’t pile up a bunch of crap and assume it amounts to a quality trade offer.
I think I’d trade Alex Gordon in the right deal.
I anticipate the Royals to trade someone who makes the fans a little bit uneasy.
How about Christian Colon, Mike Montgomery, Yordano Ventura, and the Royals 2013 “competitive balance” draft selection for Garza?