It’s time to consider the Angels and Rangers superpowers, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports writes. Lucrative regional TV deals, an abundance of star talent and the flexibility to make further moves have turned the Angels and Rangers into imposing organizations. Both clubs have both scouted Zack Greinke and Cole Hamels, but the Rangers view those pitchers as rentals and are hesitant to part with top prospects for either one. Here are more of Rosenthal’s latest notes:
- The Brewers haven’t given up on the 2012 season, but they’ve talked about exploiting the Angels-Rangers rivalry, Rosenthal writes. Many executives believe the return for a pitcher like Greinke or Hamels will be surprisingly low because the new collective bargaining agreement prevents teams from obtaining compensation for players acquired midseason.
- Ryan Dempster, who can veto any trade, has said he would consider going to any contender. The Cubs want to assume the majority of the $6.1MM remaining on Dempster’s salary to obtain better prospects in return. Rosenthal suggests interested teams might look to extend Dempster this summer and keep him off of the free agent market.
- The Cubs wanted a Gio Gonzalez-like return for Matt Garza last offseason, Rosenthal reports.
- Rosenthal suggests the Phillies could trade Jimmy Rollins, but points out that the shortstop earns $11MM per season through 2014. “That contract, boy oh boy,” one executive said, suggesting it could deter interested teams.
- Baseball people express doubt about the star potential of Pirates outfield prospect Starling Marte, Rosenthal reports.
- The Rockies are pleased that Ramon Hernandez has helped Wilin Rosario develop and don't seem overly earger to trade the veteran Hernandez.
- The Tigers are scouting Marco Scutaro and they aren’t the only team with interest in the veteran infielder. The Brewers inquired on Scutaro, but talks didn’t progress.
Redsox7
So Dempster can go to almost any AL team
Nick Sossamon
The fact that both Hamels and Greinke have consistently maintained that they will test the FA market along with the new CBA compensation clause, I kind of agree that we won’t see a huge haul for these guys.
And if the Rangers really wanted Greinke they could get him, and I’m an Angels fan. We can’t even begin to compete with what their farm system has to offer, so “exploiting our rivalry” pretty much means “seeing how much the Rangers are willing to give up”.
Phillies_Aces35
I don’t think his contract is that unreasonable. I mean, obviously we’d have to eat some money but I don’t see it as untradeable. (other than his 10-5 rights).
ColonelTom
I don’t get the contract comment either. Fangraphs has J-Roll at 2.5 WAR already through 87 games, putting him on pace to top 4 WAR for the season. He had a poor April, but since May 1 he’s hitting .269/.326/.458 with 8 HR, 28 RBI, and 10 SB. He’s still one of the better shortstops in the game and a bargain at $11M/year.
He’s not going anywhere, though, due to the 10-and-5 rights.
melonis_rex
I don’t think the Phillies would have to eat any money, honestly. Unless it was as an attempt to get better players in return.
His bat isn’t awesome, but for a shortstop, its a huge improvement over what lots of teams are getting. And his defense is still well above average.
notsureifsrs
the cubs are taking the right approach in offering to pay for the players they trade away. you might not have to pay rollins salary, but if it makes a significant difference in the return you definitely should
BeatEmBucs
Well, Marte sucks. There goes that. Thanks for the downer, Ken.
Seriously, though. That is the first time I have EVER read that Marte’s defense in center was anything less than great. Caught stealing too much? Fine. K’s a little too much? Fine.
Not enough power for left? His power numbers have gotten better every year in the minors and he’s slugging .490 as of today. Regardless, McCutchen puts up FAR better power numbers than a typical profile for a CF, he just happens to play there. His bat would offset any less than normal power production from a corner. The Pirates, if they hold on to him, need Marte to be a table setter and any power he could provide would be an added bonus. He’ll need to get his walk rate up, but he’s plenty capable of hitting for average.
Seems to me like somebody is trying to downplay him either if the team they work for is targeting him in a trade, or working against the Pirates for a deal involving a player both teams are pursuing.
DempseyK
Ken Rosenthal is not a baseball scout, nor is he a prospect guru. And Im sure whichever executives he is speaking to in regards to Marte is simply posturing. MANY MANY MANY baseball people think the kid is a stud. He is 5 tool player no doubt. He is an outstanding defender, but still lacks plate discipline. But for his age, he is significantly more advanced than most. The kid is MLB ready for sure. When you swing at a lot of strikes, you strike out more, but you also get more hits. This produces a low walk rate also. But when you have the talent he does, Id prefer him swing at pitches he likes rather than be passive. I will happily accept a low walk rate, an increased strikeout rate, and a “work in progress” in plate discipline in exchange for a .300 average , 15-25 homeruns, 75+ RBI, 100+ Runs, and 30+ Stolen Bases with ++ Defense.
As a matter of fact, anyone that wouldnt take that trade off isnt too bright in my opinion. Even if he performs at 75% that capacity, he will still be slightly above league average. My point is, that there is a reason that this kid has shot up through the system and has caught the eye of everyone in baseball. He is quite possibly a 2nd Andrew McCutchen type player in the making. (with less plate discipline) But all the tools are there.
Mike Adamson
The National media hates Pittsburgh and always will!!! If they could lower Marte’s value at all then they will. These guys are all bum buddy’s with certain teamsGM’s/sources. It’s all BS.
Marte is exactly what Pittsburgh needs. Why trade him? He hits for Average, has good speed, Better fielder than Cutch, and has some pop. This guy was killing ML pitching in Spring. Please give him a chance here in Pittsburgh.
Nate
This “scout” likely saw 1 game where Marte got a late jump or something. I agree, this is the 1st time I’ve ever heard anyone complain about his D. Watched him in WV, Altoona, and at Indy, his D is legit. Legit enough to push ACutch to a corner OF. I also agree that he has two paths, either a 2nd ACutch, or an ACutch Lite.
The only two things that need improvement: his SB% (which was never an issue until this year) and his K%. Overall his stats are neck and neck with where McCutchen was at in each level.
IMO, I’m over Upton. Move on to an OF that will cost less and use some resources on a 2nd bat or a SP.
Get after CQ, Willingham, Span, Wandy, Lowrie, Clint Robinson, CJ Cron, Victorino, etc.
Billy
Just a quick look, but despite Marte’s issues w/ “plate discipline,” he’s never had an OBP under .300 (his lowest was .307, in his first season). He’s been around .360 most of the way; with growing power numbers every season. There’s absolutely nobody blocking him in Pittsburgh right now – I can’t figure out why he’s not in the starting line-up currently, unless only to protect his trade value in the event he doesn’t come up and hit immediately. In the end; he’s not one of Huntington’s additions, so maybe he’ll never put on a Pirates uniform.
Bob
I think Dempster will go anywhere to win. Its just 2 months for him.
ARod's Ring
I think Dempster is due to a sudden and ugly regression (ala Jarrod Washburm 2009)
EightMileCats
Ugh… Don’t remind me
nm344
Rollins has the 4th highest WAR for a shortstop this season. And he’s on pace for a 4.5 WAR season. People who think he has a bad contract are crazy. And the Phillies are not moving him anyway, there is noone there to replace him.
melonis_rex
yeah, the only reason the Phillies would move Rollins would be to clear up luxury tax space for Hamels.
If its moving Rollins in order to sign a truly elite player like Hamels, it makes sense. Besides that, it doesn’t.
TheReturnOfMrBlanks
Marte = Next Wil Veneble – With that said I would gladly trade Veneble straight up for Marte just to try all over again =)
indybucfan
Considering you’ve probably never seen him play, that’s like grasping for straws in the dark. He’s nothing like Venable.