2:19pm: Span to the Reds isn't happening, tweets Jon Heyman of CBS Sports.
1:29pm: A Reds source downplayed the Span talk, tweets John Fay of the Cincinnati Enquirer.
12:52pm: The Reds and Twins are discussing center fielder Denard Span, writes Scott Miller of CBS Sports. One Miller source sees a 50-50 chance of a deal. Span, 28, is hitting .290/.356/.396 in 420 plate appearances for the Twins. He's guaranteed just $12.8MM through 2014, unless his '15 option is picked up.
Makes sense for both teams if they agree on a price. But with Span’s contract and Hamilton in the wings to take over CF (if he doesn’t stick at short), I still don’t think it gets done.
I’d guess that if they need to move Hamilton to CF, they’d probably stick Span in left or trade him. He has good enough stats on a cheap contract that they could always deal him in 2013 or even 2014 if they wanted to.
I’m thinking Hamilton would be best to spend another year in the minors, seeing as how he’d need to spend a year in the OF to learn the position better.
how am i supposed to respect this guy’s rumor when he doesn’t know what division the reds play in. the west? come on man.
doesn’t say anything about the Reds being in the West
if u click the article…its says the Reds who currently lead the NL West…
Oh ok, thought he meant in the article on here, not the link, now I see it.
In the article from Scott Miller it does.
Please Walt, get this done!
the garza trade must’ve flamed out
There was never anything there. Reds have no need for Garza.
I figure they had ideas of getting Garza and plugging him into the rotation spot, so they could offer one of their bottom of the rotation pitchers in the deal for Span since that is something the Twins said they wanted for him. They also want to have a stronger rotation down the stretch to get to the playoffs and the World Series.
Seems like an odd time to give up on Drew Stubbs.
Could be the perfect time to sell as high as he’ll get.
Who would the Twins get in return?
As long as it’s not an overpay.
What’s an overpay? I wouldn’t give them Corcino or Cingrani, but I’d send Stephenson.
No no no no no. I’d rather give up Cingrani than Stephenson. Cingrani is a 2 pitch starter, while Stephenson throws 100 MPH and is owning high A ball (Still a long ways away, but has waaaaay more potential).
C’mon Walt, get it done. Makes long-term sense. Offer Corcino, Gregorious and Heisey or Stubbs. That’s a good deal for both sides.
No way I give up Corcino and Stubbs for him. I don’t think the Reds are trading Stubbs.
That seems like too much to me. Maybe Heisey and Stephenson.
Mike Leake and a “high ceiling” pitching prospect were mentioned on AM1500 about an hour ago. It all depends on how desperate the Reds are to acquire Spann. Unlike Liriano, Spann is a guy they want to keep and another team will have to make the Twins the proverbial offer they cannot refuse.
Stephenson has to stay. He’s dominant so far in High A. Cigrani is a one pitch pitcher with no feel for breaking stuff at all.
We’ll see if it gets done. If it does I’ll miss Span, quality player and a quality person.
I love Span as a Twins fan, but the Twins need to do this…Revere is a natural CF and we have several minor leaguers capable of RF (Joe Benson, Aaron Hicks, Chris Parmalee if Morneau isn’t gone, etc.). We need pitching, and I can see Cincy parting with a guy like Kyle Lotzkar.
Sounds like a good starting point. Lotzkar + maybe Hoover + a 3rd small piece.
I’d do that. I’d give up one of Lotzkar or Cigrani.
Cigrani’s #’s look impressive…Lotzkar looks like an arm cannon with Tommy John written all over him. I’ll take the sure thing, the last thing the Twins need is a prospect with arm issues.
I’d take some help at 2B/SS as well. Don’t know much about the kid but
DiDi Gregorius appears to be a solid prospect…Cincy is loaded at SS with Cozart and Hamilton waiting in the wings.
Yep I think the Reds would part with Didi as well since he’s basically blocked for a while. Reds also have a solid 2B prospect in Henry Rodriguez.
You better get some pitching for him, Terry. This is one of two trades you can’t mess up.
Fay is pretty solid when it comes to his team source. I’d say that his tweet is more accurate than Mr. Miller
I’d say Heisey and Didi for Span
Your not getting Gregorius, he is the Reds future at SS. B Hamilton will be our starting CF in 2014
It’s quite a world we life in when someone hitting .290 is “guaranteed just $12.8MM through 2014.”
Sorry, the Reds have stated Gregorious, Hamilton, Cingrani, Corcino, Stephenson and Hoover are untouchable, as well as Henry Rodriguez. Lotzkar, Sulbaran and Soto are in play
I never seen anything suggesting Gregorious or Hoover are untouchable. In fact I think those two are highly likely to be moved should the Reds do something.
Jocketty has said numerous times, those players are VITAL to our future, being a small market team. We got Hoover to replace Boxberger in the system and Gregorius will be our future at SS
You do realize the Reds have a rookie SS who is 26? Someone is either getting moved to 3B or traded. But with the way Frazier has played he’s likely the fixture at 3B.
Why is span so undervalued on this website, he’s really good on defense, really good on base, but all everybody wants to give up is an okay prospect, look at his contract, his contract is a bargain!
Nature of the beast. Fans that want other players on their team want to give up as little as possible and still make the trade. The reverse is true also … fans of teams trading away good players want the max return.
So what is Revere worth? Shorter window, but outperforming Span in most facets this year. We don’t need two of the same guy in the OF. Right fielders (and outfielders as a whole) are typically power positions, between Span and Revere I think we have 3 HR total.
Hamilton probably is the only real untouchable with the Reds wanting to win now!!
This would be great for the Reds. I don’t think they want to trade another guy named Hamilton though.
If we (Reds Fan) want this done I say didi, heisey, and maybe a starting prospect
Done. Anyone got Terry Ryan’s phone #?
Twins want pitching and are overloaded with OFers
Coincidence that Stubbs is out of the lineup for tonight? hmmmmm ….
MN will only trade Span if they get a starting pitcher…don’t see this happening.
MLB Network just said Span declined the trade. Wow, didnt see that coming!
Edit: MLB just said He did not decline it, there was just never a trade in place
he doesnt have 10-5 rights dont see how that rumor is true
Agreed, no mention of a no-trade clause in his contract (according to Cots.) He may not want to get traded but he can’t stop it.
THANK YOU WALT for not pulling the trigger
What we were tryin to get for him
All Tigers fans want to see this deal done … this guy kills us.