As Tigers left-hander Phil Coke celebrates his 30th birthday, here's are a few rumors from around the AL Central…
- The Twins are looking for pitching in exchange for Francisco Liriano and in any deadline deal, reports Scott Miller of CBS Sports.
- Indians right-hander Roberto Hernandez is expected to soon receive a new visa that would allow him to return to the United States, reports MLB.com's Jordan Bastian. Hernandez has been training in the Dominican Republic but would require some minor league starts before returning to the Tribe and may yet face a suspension for using his false "Fausto Carmona" identity, though the Indians don't think a suspension is likely.
- James Schmehl of MLive.com suggests the Tigers could trade the extra draft pick they were awarded in yesterday's inaugural competitive balance lottery. The Tigers will get a compensation pick after the second round and, unlike other MLB draft picks, these competitive balance picks are allowed to be dealt.
Detroit gets a lottery pick that is such a travesty. They blow huge money on FA Prince Fielder and hand out other huge contracts then get a compensation pick on top of it?!
Why is it a travesty to spend money, that you have, in order to win? Why is it a travesty to get a lottery pick in the B round after you haven’t had a 1st round pick in three years? Only sandwich picks.
I never said it was a travesty to spend lots of money but you shouldn’t be able to blow hundreds of millions on free agents and then turn around and win a pick from the “Competitive Balance Lottery” !!! It’s pretty self explanatory …
Brett Cecil for Francisco Liriano.
Trash for trash
Pass.
You thought I was serious? But to be fair… Maybe we can pass Brett Cecil off as a legitimate pitcher with potential like the Twins try to do every year with Liriano. I mean after all…Cecil is a former 15 game winner.
Except Liriano is a legitimate pitcher.
Here is Baseball-Reference’s 10 pitchers similar to Liriano:
1. Mike Sirotka
2. Donovan Osborne
3. Daisuke Matsuzaka
4. John Maine
5. Jack Bentley
6. Jose Rosado
7. Chuck Estrada
8. Chris Nabholz
9. Jonathan Sanchez
10. Tom Gorzelanny
Man you’re right, he is pretty legit being in such an elite class as John Maine and Jonathan Sanchez.
He’s only 28, give it a few years.
How many does he get. Most guys are getting to there prime at 28 to 31. Come on you are over rating your own teams guys, just admit it. We all do it from time to time.
You do realize Liriano has the lowest contact rate in baseball, right? And is 2nd in K/9? His walk rate is way down recently, too. Frankly, as a Twins fan, I would rather see them keep him for $9 mil next year. Capps and Baker come off the books I think ($17.75 mil) and if anyone will take Pavano at all, for anything, that’s another $12. For that $29-30 mil they could have Liriano and Greinke – just sayin’.
Its the nature of the trade deadline beast to capitalize on the present value of a player. In the past 2 months, Liriano has been one of the best pitchers in the league, and by many measures, “legitimate” (although I am not sure how you are defining this term)… Look up 10 pitchers similar to RA Dickey and I am sure you will get similarly unflattering comparisons. However, he has been dominant this year and certainly more valuable than his aggregate career #s would indicate (the same #s upon which Baseball Reference generates its lists of similarities).
A fair argument but I still don’t think his two months of strong baseball warrant a strong return. His yearly numbers are still poor. RA Dickey is pitching on another level this year. If Liriano was pitching the same way, then yes he would definitely net a fair return, but no one is going to give up any prized possessions to take a gamble with Liriano.
Yeah, I don’t think he SHOULD warrant a hefty return, but I am inclined to think that someone will overpay. Couple things are going in the twins favor for an overpay to happen: 1.) Greinke and Hamels potentially coming off the trade market, thinning the top tier 2.) Additional wildcard creating more potential suitors.
The guy is a head-case though and could very well go out tonight and take a piss, destroying his trade value. In this way, the Twins are playing a high risk/ high reward game of chicken by giving him all his starts before the trade deadline. However, I am betting another great start tonight will pay off.
Regardless, it will be fun.
Indeed, and I’m not a hater despite my razzing. I wouldn’t mind the Jays to take a gamble on Liriano…as long as the cost is not overwhelming.
Funny thing too is the fact the Brett Cecil was fairly better in some categories than Liriano was last year in only 10.2 less innings pitched (ERA, WHIP, K/BB ratio, WAR).
I don’t know anything about Cecil, but if he’s anything like Liriano, that about sums it up.
Nah you don’t want Cecil, but I do wonder despite their bad years, if maybe AA can some how get rid of either Chad Jenkins or Deck McGuire before their value diminishes to nothing (if they even have any left now). I mean if the Twins think they are going to get top of the line prospects for Liriano, they are out of their mind.
at this point there value is so low you have to keep them and hope they find themself and rebound.. 2 brutal picks though.
Jenkins has been atleast somewhat decent sometimes
True true…perhaps we can ship over McCoy or Mathis then. Two guys with career ERAs at 0.00
freddie gonzalez,frank wren,rodger mcdowell for loriano,gardenhire,and bring back leo.
Bud Selig is ruining baseball. This second wild card is a joke! The new CBA rules make stud starting pitchers less valuable in terms of prospects And the
fact that the Tigers get compensation for signing Fielder shows how
flawed this new draft lottery (where you can trade! DRAFT PICKS?) is.
Nobody’s perfect.
Except me!
They don’t get draft picks for signing Fielder. Teams get into the compensation lottery based on revenue sharing and market size. The Tigers were in because they apparently received enough revenue to be in there.
It has nothing to do with how much they spend.
I hope Coke had a smile or two on his birthday
Rudy Owens and Zack Van Rosenberg for Liriano. Get it done, Neal Huntington! Bedard and Correia are ticking time bombs, and at least FL has a live arm.