With second baseman Chase Utley sidelined with no timetable to return, the Phillies plan to start Freddy Galvis and are hoping to bolster their infield depth behind him. With that in mind, General Manager Ruben Amaro & Co. have some interest in Yankees utilityman Ramiro Pena, according to George A. King III of the New York Post.
Earlier today, Utley spoke to reporters and insisted that he'll return to action at some point this season. The Royals' Chris Getz was one possible trade target for the Phillies but it's unlikely that he'll be dealt as he has a good chance at opening the season as Kansas City's starting second baseman.
Sean Ryan McAllister
Why?
Sean Ryan McAllister
Like he has a good glove but he’s not even close to being a major league hitter. Maybe they got him confused with Eduardo Nunez. Heck Bill Hall would be a better get than Pena.
User 4245925809
” Heck Bill Hall would be a better get than Pena.”
They want someone who can stand at every position like a statue and k very time they come to the plate? the rest of the NL east would like that.
Sean Ryan McAllister
I don’t think you realize how poor of a hitter Pena is. I’m a Yankee fan.. he’s brutal.
Career OPS:
Bill Hall- .743 OPS
Ramiro Pena- .554 OPS
Havok9120
Yes, but he really is a slick defender. I mean he’s got, what, a dozen career errors? A few more? I dunno what his UZR looks like but he certainly passes the eye test with flying colors.
Jared Levin
As a Phillies fan, I’d like to see Amaro acquire a good hitting utility infielder for once. We always get solid defenders, but automatic outs. I don’t want another Juan Castro, Wilson Valdez, Eric Bruntlett, or Michael Martinez. Everyone loves Valdez (I do too) but he honestly couldn’t hit worth a lick and was a GIDP machine.
Havok9120
Well, we can’t really help with that unless you feel like prying Nunez from us. That’d be expensive for you I think, but he’s your guy if you’re after a utility man that can hit.
Patrick Oliver
Yes, but he does the little things. He is a good fielder. Albeit he does not have much power, he can bunt, steal, and get some hits.
Bob M.
already have Ty Wiggington
User 4245925809
Exactly. Wiggy is one of the best offensive utility people around and he is not the best at the glove, but can at least hit for power and is a threat and has some flashes with the leather, a Bloomfield with no speed, but power and skills in a different area. IMO Wiggy is one of the best utility people in the game, along with Bloomfield and hope Mike Avilles can become one should he stay healthy.
Patrick Oliver
Wrong. He does the little things. Albeit he does not have much power, he can bunt, steal, and get some hits.
tacko
Pretty sure the Phillies have interest in every utility infielder at this point.
Havok9120
This.
Pena could very well be the cheapest one. He’s the very definition of depth with MLB experience.
Karan
How the mighty have fallen. NL East is going to be a dog fight this year.
levendis
for the #2 spot that is.
Bob M.
because games have been played already… Phillies will still win 90+ games
start_wearing_purple
With a rotation of Halladay/Lee/Hamels and a closer like Paps, I’m having trouble envisioning the Phillies struggling this year without a lot more problems.
Havok9120
The concerns are all offense I think. And, just from what I’ve heard, they’re well founded. Pitching wins championships is something I hold to be true, but a lineup of noodle bats and walking wounded won’t get you very far no matter how good your pitching is.
How’s their ‘pen by the way?
Jared Levin
The pen is solid but has a few question marks. Bastardo was one of the best lefty relievers in the league last year, hopefully he will be healthy and can return to form. Mike Stutes was one of our better relievers and he will be back. Contreras is still coming back from an injury. Kendrick will have a spot in the BP as a spot starter and long reliever. The rest of the pen will be young guys mostly.
Muggi
“bunch of noodle bats” is a bit of an exaggeration…even with Utley and Howard out, they’re going to be starting 3 guys that slugged near .500 or over.
Bullpen should be very good.
Jeffrey C Ditmer
phillies also added depth to their bench. ty wiggington , jim thome, laynce nix, they can at least fill in in the case of injury unlike entrusting wilson valdez to start 50 gms or more in place of utley again…offense wont be explosive but will still be better than mets, comparable to braves and nats and marlins are only offense that could be better.. but add in pitching and coaching and bullpen phils are just fine
tacko
The Giants have shown that a team with some offense but outstanding pitching can win championships, but also that a team with very little offense and outstanding pitching will not get to the playoffs.
Phillies_Aces35
Not really… they’re still the best team in the division… they just have less margin for error. I’d take the 2012 opening day line up over the 2011 opening day line up.
levendis
He’s a very good fielder, can bunt, has some speed, but dont expect much from the bat. Hes the first one to be called up to fill in Eduardo Nunezs bench spot if anyone gets injured in the infield, so not sure if the Yankees are willing to part with him for nothing.
Havok9120
I have to think we’d make them overpay to get him. Not a ton, but he’s not worth much and I agree that we wouldn’t just give him away.
levendis
Still think that the Phillies probably have better internal options though
Timothy J. Franklin Williams
Let Galvis play.
JPH_GSG
They’re letting him play. The first sentence of this article reads ”
With second baseman Chase Utley sidelined with no timetable to return, the Phillies plan to start Freddy Galvis and are hoping to bolster their infield depth behind him.”
xample
Regardless of who the Phils are looking at, it is still nice to be in a position to just be looking for a utility infielder even with the injuries to Utley, Howard, and Polanco (because that’s going to happen again at some point). I would have to believe that a Pena-esque move would simply be to build upon depth in the minors.
mgsports
Blanton for Laird and when Polanco gets back 2B.
Havok9120
Um, not only no, but HELL no.
He’d be our, what, #11 starter? Maybe he’s better than our stockpile of MLB-ready arms in AAA, but I doubt it. Its not that I value Laird enormously (he’s a placeholder until Bitchette and/or Austin advance up the system some more), but we’d need a bit more than a useless pitcher.
Eduardo Medina
Alex Cora is available
Jeffrey C Ditmer
cora would be great hes already thought of being a fielding coach postplay so longterm great pick up. hell play flawless defense and hitting equal to valdez almost
LUWahooNatFan
How can Phillies fans honestly say their window isn’t closing when the key core(offensively) that brought them post season success is having injury problems out the wazoo
Havok9120
Injuries are survivable and are determined as much by bad luck as by age. Its going to be when all that starting pitching gets old (especially if they don’t resign Hamels) that will crush them. We Yankee fans are well aware of the problems age can bring if you don’t have the means to make up for it elsewhere.
LazerTown
Yes but we Yankees fans still get to see one infielder under 30 And a 1b that is on the field. The rotation is still younger. Halliday will be 35, lee 34.
Phillies_Aces35
… because every team has injuries.
Injuries have nothing to do with the window of opportunity. Performance does. They won 102 games with an opening day line up of:
Victorino
Polanco
Rollins
Howard
Fransisco
Ibanez
Ruiz
Valdez
Halladay
There’s no reason to believe they can’t win at least 90 games. Given the 2 wild cards in this league, there’s no way they don’t make the playoffs barring an injury to a starter.
LUWahooNatFan
True.. but the offense isn’t the only thing getting older.. can’t really expect Halladay and Lee to put up the numbers they have going into their late 30’s… I’d say the Phillies have between 2-3 years before the youth the Braves, Nationals, and perhaps Marlins have catches up(especially if Hamels isn’t resigned) and puts Phillies in the middle of the pack in terms of the N.L. East
Phillies_Aces35
Why can’t I expect Halladay and Lee to put up the same numbers? They’ve shown absolutely no signs of slowing down. I don’t see them falling off drastically… especially Cliff Lee. I could see him being effective ala Andy Pettitte.
emayer
The window is closing. Definitely. And if our starting rotation still had guys like Adam Eaton and Jamie Moyer (as much as I love him) instead of Roy Halladay and Cliff Lee, it would be firmly shut already. Great starting pitching can cover up a lot of other problems.
Muggi
They’ll need reinforcements, sure, but the “window” isn’t closed/closing because they have the money to pay to compete. It’s the same reason the “window” never really closes on the Yanks or Boston.
Ryan
The Cubs have a payroll of $140 million, is their window always open also?
Slopeboy
I’ve donned my catcher’s mask, shin guards and chest protector, cause I’m going to get pounded, but at the risk of sounding like a real Homer, Pena is a good move compared to many other options out there. Fans that read stats and make judgements solely on that criteria will say the guy stinks. Those of us who see him play and understand the game, see that he does lots of positive things to win games when he plays.( Intangibles, we’re big on that in Yankees Universe)
Granted he’s not a power hitter and hasn’t hit for average, but in his defense, he’s never really played regularly. On a team with A-Rod, Jeter and Cano to replace, it’s a tall order to find playing time for more than a handful of games at a time. On the Phillies, he could do a real good job if given the chance. He’s certainly not any worse than what the Phillies have on hand currently.
Make the trade Ruben!
Patrick Oliver
I like Ramiro Pena. He is well underrated by his team. But, we have plenty of depth. If we can get a good trade, take it. Knowing us, we likely will.