The Blue Jays have J.P. Arencibia catching at the Major League level and top prospect Travis d'Arnaud could be MLB-ready within the year. It seems like a good problem to have for Toronto, but other teams view the Blue Jays’ depth as a possible opportunity, ESPN.com’s Buster Olney reports…
- Teams have asked about Arencibia and d’Arnaud in trade talks, Olney writes. However, it’s very possible that the Blue Jays will keep both unless they’re completely overwhelmed by an offer. D’Arnaud is slated for more minor league seasoning while Jeff Mathis backs Arencibia up, so the Blue Jays don’t have to make a decision any time soon.
- Cubs president of baseball operations Theo Epstein has a bonus in his contract that resembles the conclusion bonus he had with the Red Sox, Olney writes. Epstein also has standard bonuses for team success.
- Steve Cohen made an impressive presentation in his bid for the Dodgers, Olney hears.
- The Padres love what they see in outfield prospect Rymer Liriano.
Bonuses for team success sound like a good idea but they’re not, particularly not at the President of Baseball Operations level. That is the man who is supposed to have a long-term outlook for the franchise; incentivizing current success puts a long-term vision at conflict with personal enrichment and that is seldom a good idea.
If–if!–a franchise wanted to incentivize current team success it should be at the GM level, and then you let the conflict be tempered by his boss’ (whether a President or the owner) long-term look.
This is not meant to be a commentary on Theo Epstein or Jed Hoyer. Maybe they are both the rare type who can put personal interest aside for the good of their franchise. They’ve certainly got the team pointing in the right direction, even if the finish line is a long way off. Still, it’s a poor policy that I would like to see done away with. Let their success be incentivized by the prospects of a longer, more lucrative contract (extension).
Unless they’re planning on jumping ship, they have no reason to put short-term success over long-term success. They’d just be guaranteeing themselves that they won’t have a job in the future if they make decisions that are detrimental to long-term success.
Furthermore, the Cubs are nowhere near contending right now, so you don’t have to worry about him making short-term decisions. If he wants to reach those bonuses, he’s got a lot of work and long-term decisions to make to eventually get to a point where he can earn those bonuses.
“Unless they’re planning on jumping ship, they have no reason to put short-term success over long-term success.”
That depends on your definition of short term and long term, I suppose. Average GM tenure is not terribly long, and often is a factor outside of their control. E.g., they put together a good team that underperforms a couple of years in a row.
More importantly, GMs are typically judged on short-term success. With the exception of constantly-rebuilding teams like the Royals or A’s, being awful for four years doesn’t tend to illicit the response “but gosh is he doing a great job setting them up for 2017!” There is already an incentive toward short-term success in terms of keeping one’s job (which is, as an aside, why a position similar to President of Baseball Operations can be so valuable). Adding a financial incentive to it only makes it a simpler decision.
It’s not about “jumping ship,” it’s about maximizing what often ends up being relatively short-term career stints. Better chance of keeping your job, better reception from fans and media, and a chance at more money instead of hoping everybody understands where you’re going years down the road? I don’t see a value in providing that kind of temptation. Are we saying GMs don’t want to build winning teams as much if you don’t waive money under their noses? Because I wouldn’t be able to buy that.
“They’d just be guaranteeing themselves that they won’t have a job in the future”
Lots of GMs have a job in the future, but if you’re referring to another GM job you’re right. However that is also a crapshoot. There are only 30 of these jobs in existence, and even if you did a good job on balance you have to compete with every other former GM who wants to come back plus every up-and-coming GM candidate, which is probably even larger than the past GM grouping. You also have the uphill slog of proving you’re as up-to-date on new trends in baseball analysis as that 30 year old assistant GM. MLB GMs have been getting younger in the past decade or so and that’s not accidental.
Further, most GMs who get fired don’t end up being offered GM jobs again. The Kevin Towers’ and Walt Jockety’s are the exception, not the rule. It’s all the more reason to be concerned with keeping your job, and the easiest way to do that is to have a good team — not three years from now, but now.
“Furthermore, the Cubs are nowhere near contending right now, so you don’t have to worry about him making short-term decisions.”
Which is precisely why I said it was not a commentary on Theo or Jed and complimented them on getting the team heading in the right direction in one partial offseason. I’m not worried about either of them personally. I object to the very concept and object even more strongly to the notion of “standard bonuses for team success.”
I don’t think a bonus works or is meant to work as incentive. That’s like saying “hey if you’re not willing to pay me a little more then I’m probably not gonna try as hard to put together a winning team”
Ahh to have prospects on top of prospects , such a nice luxury for once.
Once again I say that, Arencibia will be the DH, and D’arnaud would be the catcher, as Edwin Encarnacion’s contract is done by the end of the season, or, they trade Lind in the off season as part of a big move, resign EE, and either train Arencibia to play 1B, or let him DH and EE play 1st. A lot of options available for Arencibia to play everyday.
Arencibia is not anything close to an AL East DH at this point.
He is currently a one tool player.
Expecting him to advance that much in one year is asking a lot. He may never have the bat or eye to play such a role.
What did you expect for his rookie year? MVP numbers? Give your head a shake.
Probably an obp of at least .300…
pretty sure JPA’s bat doesn’t play at DH (at least not at this point).
It really doesn’t play anywhere except at the catching position. Even if his OBP improves, would we want to see an .800 OPS at 1B? I suppose it’s an upgrade over Lind, but that’s another problem..
Arencibia is not all that great. As Jason said, he is basically a one tool player. Power. He has no eye at the plate as his lack of walks indicate(and they were pretty much the same in the minors) and he barely hit his weight (210lbs) last year with .219. The Jays would be better served trading JP this year while his stock is still highish and using D’arnaud.
d’Arnaud’s stock this year is going to soar while playing in Vegas, he is going to look like twice the monster he already is.
Major League general managers aren’t this stupid anymore.
Arencibia or d’Arnaud to Pittsburgh! SS, C, and 1B are long-term concerns for the Pirates with several average/potentially above average 1B options (Jones, Hague, Curry, Dickerson) and acceptable SS options (Barmes, d’Arnaud, Navarro, Mercer, maybe Harrison). C is the biggest Q-mark. After Barajas… McKenry? Fryer? Sanchez? Not so sure about them.
If Pitt is going to spend big on an acquisition, Catcher seems like the biggest potential for improvement and those two are exciting!
What would they give in return?
Olney… Hears…. too much.
All you prospect pr0n types are forgetting one pretty important distinction between Arencibia and D’Arnaud: Arencibia has shown he can hit ML pitching at an acceptable level for a starting catcher, and that was in his rookie season. D’Arnaud comes with a ton of hype and projectability, but so do a ton of prospects who flame out once they get to the majors. You may project that D’Arnaud will succeed at the next level, but you can’t assume it.
Define “acceptable level”, he showed quite a bit of power and that’s it. He needs to improve if he wants to avoid being a journeyman floater.
The only thing not to love about 20 year old Rymer Liriano is if his name isn’t Rymer Liriano and he isn’t 20 years old.