The Pirates and Yankees have been discussing an A.J. Burnett trade recently, and yesterday we learned that Pittsburgh is reportedly willing to take on $10MM of the $33MM left on his contract. The Yankees are looking for a 50-50 split, however. Garrett Jones is off the table as well. Here's the latest on the right-hander…
- According to a source, there's a good chance that a deal sending Burnett to Pittsburgh gets done, tweets Mark Feinsand of of the New York Daily News.
- Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reports (on Twitter) that the Pirates are one of four teams in on Burnett, but the Yankees feel the Buccos make the "most sense" as a trade partner. One of those four teams is on Burnett's no-trade list, which reportedly includes ten West Coast clubs.
50-50 split… Excuse me while I die of laughter.
Not too ridiculous, Burnett’s probably a decent value at around $8M per year, which is what a 50/50 split would do… at worst, he eats innings, and his peripherals aren’t terrible… only to improve moving from AL to NL, from the best division in baseball to a lousy one.
I just hope New York doesn’t expect to get any players of value in return if it’s a 50-50 split.
Even if the Pirates only pick up $10MM, I wouldn’t expect any players of value back.
If someone does agree to it though, then you’ve just wasted a good laugh :(.
No worries, they’re a renewable resource. I’ve learned as a Pirates fan that if you can’t laugh, there’s not much else to live for.
Well you know, other than the Steelers and Penguins.
He said Pirates fan. Not Pittsburgh fan.
actually in my eyes the pirates didnt do to bad starting out last year. they went until what late june in the top 3 in the division? their improving, even if it is slowly but still improving.
They were actually in first place on July 25th. Fell to 4th place in the division on August 7th.
On a side note… The Pirates were in first place on July 25th. The 19 inning game against Atlanta with the Jerry Meals blown call was on July 26th. The Pirates went on to lose 11 of their next 12 games after that blown call. Makes you wonder if things could have gone differently if they win that game.
thank you, so proves my point they were not that bad last year. and with burnett maybe it could help them compete in the division. because they have some good hitters in Tabata,Alverez, Mcgehee, Barmes, mccutchen and Jones (off an on) lol
never forget WALKER!
if the yankees are going to be eating most of burnetts contract they do deserve atleast one player for him. doesnt have to be one of pittsburghs top prospects but someone in return wouldnt hurt. Pedro Alverez would do lol. send Nunez or ramiro Pena to pittsburgh with burnett and the yankees taking on all but 10 million of burnetts contract would be almost fair. maybe send phelps or warren with them. it would give the pirates a young Utility player in nunez or pena, a young SP and a veteran SP for a young 3B that could take over for Arod in a year or two while Arod moves to DH.
keep in mind this is so pirate fans can have a good laugh right now. this is not to be taken serious.
hopefully the bucs make this deal,if we could just get lee to agree to a one year deal we’d have a pretty nice team in the nl central.
I think Lee’s made it clear that he’d rather not play at all than suit up for the Pirates. I’d love to see him back in Pittsburgh, I just don’t think it’ll happen.
burnett and lee have been very good friends since their days in florida and i think lee realizes he won’t see more then what the pirates offered.
I think they’ll be fine with a platoon of Garrett Jones/Pedro ALvarez and Casey Mcgehee.
I really hope the Bucs make this deal.
I don’t want Derrek Lee on the team. They need to employ players who actually want to be there. Lee and Oswalt can go fishing together telling stories about the glory days when they were still playing baseball.
i’m dying of laughter just from the fact that AJ Burnett rumors are being tracked by the day.
This is utter idiocy to me too. I suppose it’s because of the pirates being in on him. Not often a player of burnetts caliber gets dealt to the pirates regardless of his regression in recent years. All in all I hope it gets done just so everytime I turn to mlbtr it’s not the only thing worthy of reading about on the digest.
I hope the white Sox are one of those 4…they can use some rotation depth and can move some bad money around
I do too. His 12.96 ERA against the AL Central last season is right where it should be.
He would effect only his starts whereas Dunn batted in the middle of the lineup almost every game striking out in critical situations only hitting homeruns when they didn’t matter
I know you are trying to bash Dunn, but whatever he did bad last year is countered by his winning smile.
Twins last place in the AL Central, right where they should be.
I knew that if I posted that comment, I’d get negative feedback.
sorry to say mauerpower and dont take this as an insult but aslong as the twins are under mauers big bust contract and have an concussed morneau that team isnt going anywhere. The twins really ruined that team and any hopes of winning the post season with the mauer contract though. no one will even want to trade for him. so for that i am sorry they put you fans through all of that.
The Yankees want someone to take on salary, not pick up more bad salary in return.
as a cubs fan, i also hope the white sox are one of those 4.
Yeah because the Sox are in the NL central and what the Sox do effects the cubs…
it’s called a rivalry. i love the inflection in hawk harrelson’s voice when the opposing team hits a home run or the white sox make an error.
Yeah because there’s no such thing as the South Side-North Side rivalry and Cubs fans definitely don’t want the White Sox to make a move that would make them worse…
affects not effects
You have got to be out of your mind, you sound like a Sox hater if you suggest they try to trade for A.J. Burnett. The Sox already have enough rotation depth without trading for Burnett and furthermore why add on another bad contract? The Sox already have enough bad conracts with Rios, Dunn and Peavy.
Not like I stated above “move bad money” or anything
I doubt Cashman is considering accepting Adam Dunn for him.. However… If the NYY had an open DH slot.. Dunn could hit 50HR in that stadium…
Yanks are looking for a DH but I dont see it happening.
they do have an open DH slot for a left handed bat, but they wont take on Dunns contract, if that was the case they would sign damon for his 8+ million dollar contract he wants.
Yankees are better off signing Damon or Ibanez than trading Burnett for Dunn.
Agreed.. Dunn would hit mammoth shots at NY, but if they can get any salary relief and some kind of replacement for Swish after the season (if they let him leave) they would be better off.
they would be better off making a trade with the dodgers for andre ethier then.
Or a trade with the Angels for Abreu but I think if they did that the Yankees would ask the Angels to pay some of their contract.
Roy Oswalt who?
How can we forget about good old Roy around here of late.
My guess is, like EJax, he doesn’t want to go to Pit.
I bet the Pirates end up taking on around 10mm. The Yankees need his rotation spot, and the Pirates need someone to take innings away from Kevin Correia
The Yankees already have a full rotation without Burnett (Sabathia, Nova, Pineda, Garcia and Hughes or whoever for their 5th spot. I would dump Burnett in a heartbeat. They have one of the most ridiculous ran front offices in baseball, if I was the owner of the Yankees there is no way Randy Levine or Brian Cashman would have jobs with the team.
amazing how almost any one remembers Kuroda …
Actually Kuroda is in there too so even with Burnett gone they still have six guys for five sports, which wouldn’t be a bad thing
you forgot kuroda who more then likely will be slotted in the number 2 spot in the rotation. on their website it says they dont believe pineda is ready for the number 2 spot and is better fit at number 4.
I’d put Pineda ahead of Nova
And I’m sure Kenny Williams is a genius to you, right?
Why, because he signed a good FA who had a good performance track record and then didn’t perform up to par? I think there are plenty of other good GMs that have had the same problem.
Maybe the Pirates could platoon Correia on the road and Burnett at home. Correia had a 2.64 ERA on the road last year, and Burnett has a career 2.37 ERA at PNC.
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Derek Lee won’t sign with the Pirates…if we would give up Jones(which the rumors now are that we won’t), there’s going to be a hole at 1st base. I say the Pirates should take on from $10-13 million of the money owed to Burnett. What else do we got to lose?!
i’d say what you have to lose would be about $10-13 million.
Do the Pirates even have the payroll to take on 11+M?
AJ to Buccos for Jones? HA made my day
Get a case of beer for him and call it even! freakin head case! Its not if he falls apart, its when!!
I don’t get it, such an enigmatic pitcher, ugh for any price!
I would like to see the Cubs send Soriano, a couple of young pitchers, and eat the salary between Burnett’s 33 million and Soriano’s 57 million. The Yankees get a DH, some young pitching, and the Cubs get a guy who could be good in the NL Central, and a much needed spot opened up in the outfield for better National League type players.
is that supposed to be a joke?
The Cubs are going to eat most of his salary anyway. We get another pitcher, with experience, who might have a little bit left and we get rid of an aging outfielder not suited for the National League. Soriano would probably hit well with the Yankees and Burnett could conceivably rebound for the Cubs. Burnett is probably considered to have more value than Sori, being a pitcher, so the Cubs would maybe have to throw a little bit in to make happen. I’ve not seen too many better deals suggested to get rid of Sori that brings a potential top notch pitcher in return.
Not a bad idea but I seriously doubt Theo would give up a pitcher with a ceiling above that of a middle relief guy. I wonder what the consensus is of Soriano’s annual salary worth? How much would most teams value him at if he were a free agent?
yankees want a LEFT HANDED DH not another righty, they already have that in andrew jones and awhole lot cheaper
No problem. Sign Raul Ibanez for 1 million and let them compete in spring training. Injuries happen often. A little back up isn’t a bad thing.
Ibanez probably won’t sign for that cheap.
at this point, he would have to. where’s the market for him right now?
This inning eating thng is still confusing me. I can eat innings for much less than 5-8 million per, much less 15-16 mill per. All you have to do is put on a blind fold and leave me in the game….like the Yankees did with Burnett, or the Sox with Lackey. I’ll give you 200 innings , 350 hits, 210 walks, 5 strikeouts,whip of 3.60, era of 16.00 and still win 10 games for the Yankees or the red sox.
I still don’t use innings pitched as a reliable stat. Innings pitched = Managerial decision.
5 strikeouts?? Soriano strikeouts 6 times in tee ball games. You sell yourself short…
Why why WHYYY is Garrett Jones out of the question? He’s not that gooooooood. Jones for Burnett and $24MM, let’s get this over with.
Why not pay a bit extra so the Bucs can keep their first baseman. They have other options, but none better than Jones at this point.
Plenty of folks are asking the same thing. If moving Jones will nab the Pirates a Burnett for $5-8MM/yr, then the Pirates are comning out on top. There is no reason to suspect that AJB in the NL Central is going to be as shaky as he is playing in hitter-friendly Yankee Stadium in the AL East.
At that cost, all they need is about 1.5 WAR to call it even, and Burnett over the last three years has averaged just over 1.1 WAR already. If there is any improvement, 1.5 WAR is a lock.
If you take FanGraphs dollar amount seriously, 1.5 WAR is approximately $7.5 million, and there’s no way the Pirates would take $15 mil ($7.5 mil per year) of the remainder of AJ’s contract
Agreed, not very likely that they take on $15 MM. Though asking them to take on $12MM is not unreasonable. If the Pirates get him for $10 MM, then it’s almost a flat-out steal.
Why why WHYYY is Garrett Jones out of the question? He’s not that gooooooood. Jones for Burnett and $24MM, let’s get this over with.
10 west coast teams? must be counting AAA too
I think that what is meant is the AL and NL West and possibly 1 other team—travel schedules in the Western divisions are murder.
AJ’s wife is afraid of flying, and they live in Maryland, so it’s probably the 10 teams furthest from there.
10 west coast teams? must be counting AAA too
The Yankees receive 10 million dollars of salary relief and a scrub prospect.
The Pirates receive Burnett.
The Pirates are saving the Yankees 8 figures and Burnett is a sunk cost. There is no logical reason to add Jones to this deal.
As for another four teams, this is the Yankees trying to work the Pirates. I doubt the Pirates fall for the old imaginary suitor game.
no they feel the yankees are the best suitors for the trade because no other team is actually willing to take on any of AJ Burnetts salary, unlike the pirates.
This is just about the money for the Yankees. I don’t think they really care if they get anything back. I’m sure they’re asking for a player back to use that as a negotiating tactic, eventually settling on a couple more million dollars. Burnett doesn’t have a spot in the Yankees, but he can still go out and start 30+ games and deliver 190+ innings for some team. Move him out of the AL East and to the DH-less league, and he probably can deliver league-average innings. That’s worth $5-7 million in this day and age.
Hey, AJ! West Coast is the Best Coast.
I think AJ’s home is Maryland, that’s why he doesn’t want to go to the West Coast.
how long until the deal gets done…?
is it all a possibility that the Yanks could add “non top 100” package of prospects to the deal, eat the $23 mil the Pirates are asking and get Alvarez back too?
Something like…..
AJ + David Phelps + Brandon Laird + Corban Joseph/David Adams + $23 mil for Pedro Alvarez + Gorkys Hernadez/Yamaico Navarro ?
So…your junk pitcher, a package of “non top 100″/aka junk prospects, and cash for Alvarez (who people are counting out waaaaay too soon…its barely been one full season for him and who’s remaining upside trumps EVERYTHING else in the deal, AND an outfield prospect and SS?
no; theres no possibility. No reason to give up on Alvarez so quickly. That deal makes no sense for the pirates. The Yankees have to stop being hard headed and take the 10 mil the Bucs are offering for him and let him go. They’re not going to get anyone in value in return
The Yankees send Burnett to Pittsburgh for Starling Marte, and the Pirates take on 8-10 million of AJ’s contract. Pittsburgh gets an innings eater in Burnett, who could have a VERY good year in the NL Central. He wont have to face Albert Pujols or Prince Fielder, which will be a bonus as most of the Pirates games will come against their NL Central opponents. The Yankees get a solid young outfield prospect who could concievably replace Nick Swisher at seasons end and save the team another boat load of dollars on signing or trading for Andre Ethier who, while he has solid skills, is also becoming injury prone.