The White Sox signed left-hander Scott Olsen to a minor league contract, ESPN.com's Jerry Crasnick tweets. The deal includes a 2013 option on Olsen, a Sosnick/Cobbe client.
Olsen, 28, signed with the Pirates last offseason, but he had shoulder problems and Pittsburgh released him in May. He was a serviceable starter for the Marlins from 2006-08, when he posted a 4.65 ERA with 6.6 K/9 and 3.7 BB/9 in 559 innings. However, he struggled in 2009-10 as a member of the Nationals and hasn't had success in the Major Leagues since.
Tristan Leonhard
He was “decent” as a rookie. . .but nothing since then.
Devon Henry
Scott Olsen > Prince Fielder….cough
Matt Manzella
Organizational depth. I like that we got another lefty in the system. He could spot start in a pinch and pitch long relief with the big club. He’ll give Zach Stewart a little competition in ST.
JimBaily
I guess anything helps when you have the worst minor league system in baseball.
Patrick OKennedy
Uh oh! Now we’re in trouble!
Matt Manzella
Fielder is slightly less of a monster vs. lefties…lol
Patrick OKennedy
I really don’t understand what Kenny is doing this winter.
whitesoxfan424
What is he supposed to do? The Tigers were favored to win the 2012 AL Central already at the end of last season; after VMart hurt his knee there really wasn’t all that much Kenny could do. Now that Detroit signed Fielder, he’s just going to have to wait out the rest of Rios/Dunn/Peavy’s contracts and either start anew in 2014/2015 or he’ll be gone.
The White Sox have a team that could potentially finish 2nd or 3rd in the division, but will probably remain 5-10 games under .500 for a couple years while contracts expire.
Dock_Elvis
I highly question if KW will be around to build the next Sox winner. Reinsdorf is incredibly loyal, and I’ll give him that…but at some point a change might be coming. I’ll give KW this season, but his future isn’t looking too grand.
He’s had an amazingly competitive run though…and outlasted changes all around baseball. I’m not counting him totally out..cause I’d like to see the Sox succeed…but I get the general sense that with Ozzie gone…..there aren’t too many fall guys left.
whitesoxfan424
I agree with everything you said except the fact that I feel the White Sox hired Ventura to try to lessen the blow of the team being terrible. And with him managing for the first time, he becomes a fall guy.
But by having another “fan favorite” from long ago, the fans will still support the team because Rockin’ Robin is managing… at least I hope so, not a lot of fans left it seems.
Dock_Elvis
I’m not sure the White Sox are terrible, and they might improve on last season actually. They just need to develop a game plan. They have to come up with a price plan that doesn’t drive people out of the park. The Saturday afternoon Dodger game last season drew maybe 15,000. To me it’s ridiculous to have so many empty seats. It’d be better to slash the ticket and try to make it up on the beer..rather than have seats sitting there. People just can’t afford to go to games. I do like that the Sox will give me about as many Kids Club tickets as I can use….but even then….it doesn’t give me or my boys a chance to even stroll the lower level.
Teams get to this point at times. The Sox are there and they’ll be back. They have certainly been in worse places.
Robin Ventura is interesting…he’s hilarious…and he’ll be fun to watch manage. I don’t think he’ll take anything away from the team on the field…and he might even help.
disgustedcubfan
Ventura is a nice guy, but he’s about as “interesting” as a slice of white bread.
rockfordone
I agree with you.
Dunn usual year. .250 40 -120
Rios usual year. .285 25 -95
Peavy 12-15 wins.
Beckham brake out year .295 25-85
Morel .265 25- 85
Infield best defense in AL.
Outfield Defense improved
AReed -35 saves.
White Sox a will be a huge surprise.
rockfordone
I agree with you.
Dunn usual year. .250 40 -120
Rios usual year. .285 25 -95
Peavy 12-15 wins.
Beckham brake out year .295 25-85
Morel .265 25- 85
Infield best defense in AL.
Outfield Defense improved
AReed -35 saves.
White Sox a will be a huge surprise.
Olsen just a Chi area kid their giving a chance – agent’s favor
Ruppie Ray
yikes, that’s a little too crazy to consider. But yes, Dunn Rios and Beckham should improve. Don’t see Morel making the jump quite yet– forgot to mention Flowers and De Aza’s emergence. And don’t forget to plug in the Tank’s numbers. The Sox still don’t have the ace, but DO at least have a deep rotation.
Dock_Elvis
That’s a situation where everything breaks right…and I guess it could happen..just like 2011 when everything broke wrong. You’d also have to account for a little regression on some older players. There are just too many unknowns right now and not enough givens…but I think Dunn going into last season was as close to a given as possible.
Dock_Elvis
The only thing I’d say that doesn’t really stand a possibility of happening is Morel going deep 25 times
Ruppie Ray
Actually the Sox are doing just that, slashing ticket prices by as much as 30%. I do like the fact that they are replenishing the farm system and getting younger. Sale-Stewart-Molina look like a solid core behind Danks. Anything Castro and Humber contribute should be gravy. That’s why I’m surprised the Tigers gave the 4th biggest contract to a DH/1b, the easiest position on the field to fill- considering Miggy was in place
Dock_Elvis
They’d need to slash prices by 30% in quite a few seating locations just to be in line with most of the league. Those outfield seats were typically $35-$45 face value which was absurd. I know they went with a ticketing service that gauged market value atleast on some dates.
The Sox do allow for many coupon code dates….and the basic kids club is 100% free..when many clubs charge around $20.
The city adds a leisure tax onto the ticket price…so that’s 13% there.
My concern for the future is that MLB in general is turning baseball into TV programming…and there’s way too much competition there to grow the game with young people. I enjoy the game on Tv..but people need to be able to get in and experience the game live…there’s nothing like it.
Dock_Elvis
I highly question if KW will be around to build the next Sox winner. Reinsdorf is incredibly loyal, and I’ll give him that…but at some point a change might be coming. I’ll give KW this season, but his future isn’t looking too grand.
He’s had an amazingly competitive run though…and outlasted changed all around baseball. I’m not counting him totally out..cause I’d liek to see the Sox succeed…but I get the general sense that with Ozzie gone…..there aren’t too many fall guys left.
Ruppie Ray
Agreed. Meantime, Tigger got hoodwinked into bidding against themselves, the Nationals and their imaginary friends. Enjoy the signing while he’s still a spry young man!
Joey Doughnuts
This move is so irrelevant it shouldn’t factor in to Kenny’s offseason moves at the slightest. This is literally not even on the radar.
Ruppie Ray
Good luck with Fatboy in say….2016
alan104
Low risk with potential reward. Good signing.
Ruppie Ray
you never know with Coop either. Humber and Floyd were also reclamation projects
WonderboyRooney10
I think this guy has anger issues if i remember correctly
whitesoxfan424
I remember something of the sort, too.
sourbob
Fought/had confrontations with: Randy Messenger, Joe Girardi, Miguel Cabrera, Chase Utley, Sergio Mitre. Fined for obscene gesture to fans in Milwaukee. Booked on DUI, speeding, resisting arrest in FLA.
ellisburks
But other than that has he had anger issues?
sourbob
Well, he did also tell the national media he “hated” the city of Philadelphia and all of its fans. And he publicly criticized Pirates management when he was displeased with talk that he might be asked to become a reliever.
Other than THAT, I think he’s got a clean record.
ellisburks
Well then what is everyone complaining about? He’s a perfect citizen.
lolpods
well, who doesn’t think this stuff.
Ruppie Ray
Ha. Then again the Sox seem to have some sort of rage whisperer program goin. AJ, Carl the Truth Everett, Tony Phillips, Ruben Sierra, Danny Tartabull and Canseco all have had pleasant/uneventful stays on the South side after being labeled as problem kids. Contrast that with the blow up factor on the other side of town. Maybe they’ll spring Olsen on the Rangers for the beatdown reunion
FS54 2
Why did Nationals ever trade for him? I enjoyed Willingham in Nats uni, but this guy was a disaster. I don’t see how he can contribute anything to White Sox.
lug
Probably will contribute to the Charlotte Knights though hence the minor league deal.
jwsox
MINOR LEAGUE DEAL PEOPLE stop acting like he is going to contribute at all to the MLB club. I love when teams sign guys to minor league deals and people question the gm as if it’s a bad thing.
JimBaily
There’s not much risk in calling any move Kenny Williams makes as a bad one for the Sox.
sourbob
I understand your frustration, but it’s not hard to see where these comments are really coming from today: today, it sucks to be a Sox fan gazing over at the Tigers.
Joey Doughnuts
If you thought the Sox had a chance BEFORE the Fielder signing, then you are a very blindly optimistic fan. Tigers adding Fielder is GOOD news for Sox fans. Sox weren’t going to compete until 2014 anyway. By that time, Prince will be about to turn 30 years old, and be making $24M a season. Prince will be at his best when the Sox are already at their worst. By the time the Sox start to get good again, Fielder will start to get bad, while still making heaps and heaps of money that will handcuff the Tigers payroll flexibility. The size of the Fielder deal and the timing was great for the Sox.
Ruppie Ray
Yes, or put another way, when Adam Dunn comes off the books, Tigger will still be on the hook for another $140 mill. Mo Vaughn anyone?
jwsox
It does not suck at all to be a whitesox fan. I’m sorry I’m a die hard but it’s not any worse to be a sox fan. Yeah prince signing suck but he really isn’t that much of an upgrade for them this year. Next season if they van figure a way to have aviles, v Mart, miggy, and prince yes that’s scary but the defense
Might be bad enough that their bats can’t make up for it but that’s not till 2013. Any way the sox were going to be mediocre this season unless Gordon finally breaks out and Dunn. Rios, and peavy FINALLY. Bounce back but thats too
Many question marks to think they were realistically going to be better than the tigers even before prince.
jwsox
It does not suck at all to be a whitesox fan. I’m sorry I’m a die hard but it’s not any worse to be a sox fan. Yeah prince signing suck but he really isn’t that much of an upgrade for them this year. Next season if they van figure a way to have aviles, v Mart, miggy, and prince yes that’s scary but the defense
Might be bad enough that their bats can’t make up for it but that’s not till 2013. Any way the sox were going to be mediocre this season unless Gordon finally breaks out and Dunn. Rios, and peavy FINALLY. Bounce back but thats too
Many question marks to think they were realistically going to be better than the tigers even before prince.
sourbob
I actually used the word today twice. In a row. Not sure how everybody missed that.
sourbob
I only said it sucks to be a White Sox fan TODAY, as in, only in terms of, wow, the Tigers got Fielder, and the Sox got Scott Olsen; our rivals are becoming strong favorites to win and we got a headcase on a minor league deal.
It wasn’t a complete evaluation of the two franchises and their chances, much less of how enjoyable it is/will be to be a fan of either over a prolonged period of time.
I’m not a fan of either team, I was just feeling empathetic to Sox fans today.
JimBaily
There is not a single thing that Kenny Williams does well.
Just sayin’…..
Dock_Elvis
He tirades at Frank Thomas like a pro…
ellisburks
You mean like a boss.
Dock_Elvis
Williams was a little more verbal with the public than most GM’s would have been after Thomas left the Sox.
ellisburks
Like a boss is a comedic song by Lonely Planet guys from Saturday Night Live. It’s on Youtube.
jwsox
Lonely island not lonely planet
jwsox
Lonely island not lonely planet
Joey Doughnuts
Again, LOL at people somehow coming to conclusions after an incredibly insignificant MINOR LEAGUE DEAL like this.
Adam Sager
I guess the ’05 season didn’t happen.
popular_mechanics_for_pitchers
Phil Humber 2.0
Joey Doughnuts
Ehhh, that’s REALLY thinking wishfully. Scott Olsen is not good at all, and his personality is even worse. At least Humber was a good guy to root for.