Tim Lincecum filed for a $21.5MM salary through arbitration and the Giants countered at $17MM, Jon Heyman of CBS Sports tweets. Both figures set new records for players with less than six years of service time. Derek Jeter ($18.5MM) and the Yankees ($14.25MM) had established the previous marks more than a decade ago, in 2001.
Roger Clemens once filed for a $22MM salary via arbitration, but it was after he had become eligible for free agency.
It still baffles me that Lincecum wasn’t signed 3 years ago to a 3000 year contract extension lol
These arbitration hearings can’t bode well for rapport between the 2 sides
It’s what lincecum has wanted so far. He wants to go year to year. Each side has to understand that this is the process. No hard feeling, just business
Well, he also wants a long term contract but the Giants are too cheap to lock him up.
Wow! This is going to be interesting
Rays were deciding between Lincecum and Longoria back in the draft. We know who they chose, I look at this numbers and then I realize that Evan is getting a giant raise all the way to 4.5 million this year and I just love Friedman.
Umm, Lincecum has 2 Cy Youngs and a World Series ring. Pretty sure every team in the history of the universe would trade $15M in player payroll for that any day of the week.
Who would you rather have? First 8 years of Lincecum for 110m (which he seems to make) VS. first 8 years of Longoria for 44m. Lincecum had 26.4 WAR so far for last 5 seasons while Longoria had 25.9 WAR for last 4 seasons.
Not to mention, I remember it being Cain, Bumgarner, Renteria and Ross all being the reasons they won it all. Lincecum was great, he’s always great but he didn’t win that WS for them.
Did you miss the decisive game when he beat Cliff Lee?
That’s like saying Chris Carpenter did not win it for the Cardinals last year.
Starters definitely don’t win the playoffs. Unless they start every game the team wins, they don’t win the playoffs. I think certain relievers might actually play bigger roles in the playoffs.
Also, I hate Chris Carpenter (sorry, I had to put that in).
I thought it was David Freese who won it for the Cards
I suppose he had a big part in it too
i laughed when i read this
It was a team effort, but Lincecum won game 1 and game 5 of the world series, both against Cliff Lee. He also won game 1 of the NLDS, and game 1 of the NLCS against Halladay. They also wouldn’t have been anywhere close to making the playoffs in the first place without Lincecum.
It was a team effort, but Lincecum won game 1 and game 5 of the world series, both against Cliff Lee. He also won game 1 of the NLDS, and game 1 of the NLCS against Halladay. They also wouldn’t have been anywhere close to making the playoffs in the first place without Lincecum.
Oh my
Your crazy!! Timmy Won Game 5, and he ALSO had 14k’s against the Braves in the Game 1 NLDS, he Also Outpitched Roy Holladay, and CLIFF LEE, so how DARE YOU SAY THAT
I like how Cliff Lee is in all caps but Halladay isn’t
I like how Cliff Lee is in all caps but Halladay isn’t
NLDS:
Game 1: 9.0 IP, O ER, 2 H, 1 BB, 14 SO, W
NLCS:
Game 1: 7 IP, 3 ER, 6 H, 3 BB, 8 SO, W
Game 5: 7 IP, 2 ER, 4 H, 1 BB, 7 SO, L
World Series:
Game 1: 5.2 IP, 4 ER, 8 H, 2 BB, 3 SO, W
Game 5: 8 IP, 1 ER, 3 H, 2 BB, 10 SO, W
Total Postseason Stats:
4-1, 2.43 ERA, 43 SO, .919 WHIP
Outside of a rough Game 1 start in the World Series (even though he did win), Lincecum threw very well and was just one of the many key contributors along with Cain, Renteria, Uribe, Wilson, Posey, and others in helping get a WS Ring. If anything, Lincecum gave momentum for the Giants because of his terrific starts against the likes of Derek Lowe (while he was still good), Halladay, and Lee, with the latter two being nearly untouchable in the postseason. The Giants needed their starting pitching more than ever if they had wanted to win, and Lincecum, Cain, and Bumgarner had all served just that in providing one quality start after another.
Not to mention, I remember it being Cain, Bumgarner, Renteria and Ross all being the reasons they won it all. Lincecum was great, he’s always great but he didn’t win that WS for them.
But the Giants have Sandoval. Pablo has put up two .900+ OPS seasons (Longoria has yet to produce 1) and in 2011, the Panda was a better defender, better offensively and was paid less, with a smaller contract going forward.
Also, Pablo and Timmy both have these things they wear on their fingers…oh yeah, World Series rings.
We’re gonna get screwed even worse next year if we keep him… I don’t understand how he got 9 million for the first year of arb as a super two expecting to get a 50% bump each year, isn’t non free agent arbitration supposed to keep teams competitive?
And another comment that makes me love Friedman, Price who is always more valuable being a lefty (yes I realize he didn’t win the Cy Young) but he came very close in 2010 and he only made 4.35 million in his first year of Super 2.
This Friedman sounds like quite the catch! It’s great to see that Tampa has irrational, over-excited fans too, especially ones not wielding cowbells… You don’t have a cowbell, do you?
He got so much because he won 2 Cy Youngs before his first year of arbitration. Usually arbitration works based on how much players with similar careers up to that point made previously. In Lincecum’s case, no one has started their career like that. So naturally he’s going to get record setting money through arbitration.
First, I’ve never heard the 50% raise arb model before. Please provide a link if this is something you’ve read about. Second, they settled for 2/$23MM rather than go through arb process for the first time as a super two. Third, there is no telling how his arbitration years were going to go, seeing as there arguably hasn’t been another pitcher that has been this good, this early in his career.
This isn’t his last year either. I will make early predictions of next year Lincecum asking for 28 million and the Giants offering 23.5 million.
My guess is they’ll agree to a 2 year, $40 million contract before his case comes up this year, and from there the Giants will determine how many more years they’ll want to add to it before he hits free agency.
Why would Lincecum do that? He’s going to make $20MM this year for sure (or nearly $20MM) and likely a substantial raise on that next year.
This isn’t his last year either. I will make early predictions of next year Lincecum asking for 28 million and the Giants offering 23.5 million.
What’s he gonna demand as a FA?
Guessing they agree on two years. $17MM for 2012, $21.5MM for 2013.
The Giants would be lucky to get that deal.
The Giants need to pay Mitch Kramer; I think he took it easy on the Giants actually and could have asked for more in line with what Lee and Sabathia are making.
Love it.
With all that extra cash in his pocket there’s no way he’ll hear “you’d be a lot cooler if you did” ever again. And he’ll be able to pick up that sixer without having to worry about giving Spivey change.
Love it.
With all that extra cash in his pocket there’s no way he’ll hear “you’d be a lot cooler if you did” ever again. And he’ll be able to pick up that sixer without having to worry about giving Spivey change.
As a Giants fan since 1954 what i would like to see is a three-year deal for $75M. Timmy, for one thing, has been reported as being good for a 3 spot. Average of $25M/ would set a new benchmark. Team benefits two ways: Lincecum would be theirs for a year into potential free-agency. He would then be 30. Guaranteed Ace with a pair of Cys until 2015.
If Lincecum’s small frame cannot go the long haul, it would only be for three. Should the scale be 20-25-30 even the Evil Empire and the Redsux would be looking at a mighty tall mountain should Timmy, say, win his third Cy over the next 3.
Should Cain go for five and with Bumgarner theirs for a bunch ,the Giants could be looking at more Parades down Market Street, seeing as pitching is the name of the game.
Lincecum wants either year by year or 8 years contract which will guarantee him the rest of life. It would be nice to give a deal like 8/160 to keep franchise player.
Just give him more money than Zito
He’s been hanging around Carlos Beltran too much. The selfishness rubbed off on him.
Yeah, it sucks when a guy who has won multiple Cy’s, a ring and is on the fast track for the HOF would want to be paid like pitchers he’s outproducing; what a colossal, selfish jerk.
Hahahaha I love it when people don’t understand sarcasm
He’s been hanging around Carlos Beltran too much. The selfishness rubbed off on him.
I would just give him the 8 year deal as long as, in exchange for security, the Giants would get Lincecum at a semi reduced price.
I’m in this line. 8 yrs 176M. I’d rather see a 6 yr 132M deal with a team option though.
24 years 784 million!!
24 years 784 million!!!