TUESDAY: The Marlins, Red Sox, Reds and Mets are also interested in Street, according to Jon Heyman of SI.com (on Twitter).
MONDAY: The Orioles and Blue Jays are among the teams to have expressed trade interest in Rockies reliever Huston Street, reports Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports.
Jim Johnson replaced Kevin Gregg as the Orioles' closer late last season, but Rosenthal says the O's prefer Johnson in next year's rotation. There's no harm in inquiring on Street, but in my opinion an $8MM closer is a luxury the Orioles don't need. We'll see whether the Rockies are willing to cover a decent chunk of his contract. Rosenthal suggests Orioles starter Jeremy Guthrie as a possible fit for Colorado, though I think Baltimore could trade Guthrie for better long-term assets than Street.
With Rafael Betancourt penciled in to close for the Rockies next year, Street seems widely available. Rosenthal and colleague Jon Paul Morosi first made the Blue Jays connection last week.
Rosenthal is an idiot if he thinks Street is worth Guthrie.
I would think it would have to be Street plus a prospect (outfield?) to get Guthrie. That or quite a bit of cash, and I know O’Dowd isn’t too keen on doing that despite the $2 million kicked in on recent trade of Wigginton to Philly
Guthrie is a 15+ game winner waiting to happen in the national league.
I have said that many, many times. He has been stuck in Baltimore for years and not dicing on the O’s here, cause nothing against them, but they just have not had the support, nor defense behind them, but u get a decent team behind him and this guy has the stuff to be a good #2-3.
Oh yeah that 5.5 K/9 should just dominate
Maybe he’s got the stuff, but he’s got to learn how to pitch better. He’s got a career 4.68 FIP and a 4.61 xFIP.
Fans can be so foolish at times. Just for fun, I went through Guthries stats per game in 2011, since I couldn’t see how he could go 9 – 17 with the way he pitched. After looking at the boxscores and stats of every game, something very interesting jumped out at me. Guthrie would pitch 8 innings, 3 hits – 1 run against and he lost most of those games. He would pitch seven shutout innings and get the no decision. I realized that he was the classic example of a team giving him zero support. If Baltimore scored 2 or even 3 runs in his starts, he would have finished 2011 – 20 – 6 as one of the best pitchers that year. His won – loss record was very decieving, because even with a few runs support, it would have been 17 – 9 at the worst, not 9 – 17.
So he’s basically Bert Blyleven without all the strikeouts?
Nah, Blyleven was good.
Blyleven gave up 50 home runs in a season.
Keep using W-L to judge pitchers. He’s not a good pitcher.
“The Orioles’ interest in Street stems from two factors – their desire to
move right-hander Jim Johnson to the rotation and reluctance to keep
righty Kevin Gregg as their closer.”
HAHAHA Took them an entire season to figure that out? When are teams going to quit looking at saves total and start looking at his HR, BB and just total chokes, not to mention the amount of stress tis guy puts on his teamates every time this guy takes the mound?
No team can resist those glasses!
Why the hell would Toronto be interested in an expensive one-year closer? Especially with TYPE A reliever pick compensation going away…
Clubs don’t give up a pick a draft pick in a trade only free agency. And even with the new CBA agreement teams don’t have to give up a first round pick for a type-A reliever anymore.
Renegade was referring the fact that Street couldn’t garner draft pick compensation when he leaves as a FA after 2012…not as a result of the potential trade.
Ah I see, my apologies.
Huston Street isn’t even worth a Kevin Gregg. I remember Street screaming at Geren from afar in 2011, when Fuentes was having an issue with Geren. The Orioles don’t need someone like Street, we already have a surly and incompetent reliever in Gregg. While Street’s Career WHIP is pretty good, his ERA is not (Over 3). I do not recommend Street, not even a little bit.
As a side note they better not be considering Marmol (Cubs) on the side as a back-up plan either!
Duquette and Showalter are fools! They are officially on my list until I see marked improvement in not only talent, but in character! Huston Street can hit the road, make like a tree and leave! Stay out of Charm City!
A story about Street and Geren to prove my point.
In September 2008, Street had to be separated from Geren by shortstop Bobby Crosby after getting pulled from a game in Detroit. Calling himself “selfish,”
Street later held a meeting to apologize to his teammates. On Tuesday, Street, now with the Rockies offered his harshest public criticism of Geren in a text to Chronicle reporter Susan Slusser:
“Bob was never good at communication, and I don’t want to speak for
anybody else, but it was a sentiment reflected in many conversations
during the two years I spent in Oakland, and even recently when talking
to guys after I left. For me personally, he was my least favorite person
I have ever encountered in sports from age 6 to 27. I am very thankful
to be in a place where I can trust my manager.”
Considering the fact that probably ever player that ever played for Bob Geren most likely feels the exact same way, I don’t think the problem here is with Huston Street.
What I read into this situation is another GM doing his homework on a player that might be another piece of the puzzle, nothing more, nothing less. Every GM will inquire about players, but it doesn’t mean they are trading for them. Fans could be disappointed if all the GM’s didn’t kick the tires when it came to possible trades. When a trade is announced, that is the time fans can comment on whether it was a good or bad trade, not before.
Just an FYI, but Toronto doesn’t lose any draft picks to obtain any closer on the market now. Type A closers lost their first rounder status with the new CBA. The team that loses a player now gets a compensation pick at the end of the first round only, not that teams first rounder too.
If Im Baltimore the only way I would do a trade for Huston Street is if it looked like this
Orioles get –
Huston Street
Kyle Parker
4 Million
Rockies get –
Jeremy Guthrie
The Orioles dont need to trade starters as they dont have any to begin with that could step up as an Ace. Even Guthrie isnt an Ace on a good team but he is a good pitcher on a contender.
No thanks. I’ll pass. – Dan Duquette
Arenado sure. Parker not so much.
No thanks. I’ll pass. – Dan O’Dowd
Arenado isn’t going anywhere.
Yeah I’m aware. I was trying to respond to his trade proposition with an equally silly one. I wasn’t insinuating Arenado would be included in such a deal.
You want one of their better prospects for an average pitcher who would get lit up at Coors Field? Comical.
Feel free to read my comment above. Way to read the entire thread before commenting.
Way to comment after me and then making it sound I screwed up.
PS Cool story bro.
As I read it, Guthrie is arb-eligible and made $5.75 M last season. That sounds like something in the $6.5 M range next year, give or take, or $1 M less than Street is slated to make.
All of that taken into account, I’m thinking Street plus a solid OF prospect ought to be about right.
I do think Guthrie is the sort of guy that the Rockies ought to be pursuing, though.
I know the Rockies have been rumored to be after Carl Pavano, too, and his 2012 salary is pretty much a match for Street. The Twins need a closer. Straight swap there?
I think the Twins would rather take a look a look at a different option in the FA market.
Could well be. I was looking from the angle of two guys each in the last year of their contract who might fill a need for another club since the salaries are basically a wash.
Orioles should pay the dollars for a closer, not pay the prospects. Sign one of the many free agent closers out there if they want an upgrade.
? How many time have the done that and failed?
Because they signed retreads like Gregg, Gonzalez. If you’re going to spend money, spend it on someone reliable. They’ve focused on stop gap measure as opposed to signing someone good.
Gonazalez was a pretty big signing at the time. He just didn’t work out as well as hoped.
I do see Street being dealt but i don’t see it happening this early on. Once the FA market is thin that’s when teams will turn to trades. And O’Dowd should wait as well because he will have the leverage in discussion once the market is thin.
I was thinking about Street to the O’s before the off season began. Maybe package Guthrie and Reynolds for Street and Maztek.
Jays should try to trade Cecil (Baltimore native) to Orioles for Guthrie. Orioles may get more value on Cecil than Street
why would the Jays do that?
Jays need a vetern like Guthrie who can eats innings (last 4 season he piched more than 200 innings). His average fast ball is 94-95. He should be number 2 or 3 in Jays’ rotation. With Jays offence and defence, he could get 13-15 wins. Cecil currently doesn’t have a place in Jays’s rotaion and needs a change in scenerio. Since He is from Baltimore, he may be more productive in Orioles uniform than in Jays.
He went 9-17 why do we want him?
He was pitching for the Orioles, you have to be a good pitcher to lose 17 games, remember Roger Craig with the Mets.
Update: Marlins heard teams were interested in Street and did not want any potentially available player listed without being attached to him. The Marlins are now interested in Street.
The only reason the Rockies weren’t mentioned as being interested in Street is because they already have him.
I just heard the Rockies are interested in Ty Wigginton.
The Marlins, Red Sox, Reds and Mets are also interested in Street, according to Jon Heyman. Heyman must be friends with Renck. Is there another Relief Pitcher out there that the Orioles could talk to? Tim D, please take the Orioles off the interested list, they are not interested!
Guthrie would be worse if he was traded to the Rockies. He would benefit from a bigger park like San Diego.
What happened to the Twins interest? I like Pavano a lot, but I think that is a good match: Pavano for Street.
As an A’s fan, we’ve had Street and Bailey. Bailey is a closer. Street is a decent reliever. Plus, I’m a huge AA fan and I wouldn’t want to see him give up anything to get Street, period.
Oh look another tweet by Jon Heyman!
I like Street to the Sox, but I wouldn’t give up much for him.
If O’Dowd could move Street without having to eat any salary I think he’d take the worst A-level prospect the Sox would give him.
Don’t see any obvious trade matches between Colorado and Baltimore. The Rox could use Guthrie, but the Orioles still need him. If the O’s were to take-on the majority of Street’s contract, Colorado could take Noland Reimold back and platoon him with Smith. Then they could non-tender Spilly and save the $2mil he would get in arbitration. Really doesn’t make much sense for Baltimore to go after Street though… they’re not positioned to need an $8mil closer next year.
Angels would make sense. Callaspo for Street would interest me from the Rockies end, depending on the specifics.
I though the story was that the Mets weren’t interested in Street? Or does putting “Mets” in the title just increase page hits for Heyman?
No, the Mets were interested, but and this is a BIG but, they hired Bob Geren as bench coach in October. So, they put the kibosh on Street and are content with keeping Geren. Geren and Street are not exactly fans of each other. Nothing to do with Heyman.
Wasn’t there rumors of a Pelfrey/Street swap? Street is too expensive and Pelfrey just blows though.
The Mets didn’t want Street. I bet whatever trade market there is for Guthrie is similar for Pelf: teams with young, raw pitchers needing a guaranteed 200+ innings at the back of the rotation.
Guthrie has a low K rate and doesn’t get a lot of ground balls. Exactly the opposite of what you want in a Coors Field pitcher. Pass.
Why is it that the only news out of Cincy is about acquiring closers? If a closer is Jock’s top priority, the Redlegs are in trouble. So we lose Coco….big deal. Haven’t we learned that proven closers are a mid-market luxury, not a requirement?