The Cubs announced Mike Quade will not return as their manager in 2012, tweets Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports. New Cubs president Theo Epstein said the following in a statement:
"The managerial search process begins immediately. We are looking for someone with whom and around whom we can build a foundation for sustained success. The next manager must have leadership and communication skills; he must place an emphasis on preparation and accountability; he must establish high standards and a winning culture; he must have integrity and an open mind; and he must have managerial or coaching experience at the major league level. I want to thank Mike for his nine years of excellent service to the Cubs, and we certainly wish him well in the future."
The statement seems to rule out Ryne Sandberg as a candidate for the next Cubs' manager. The Cubs are expected to talk to Dale Sveum, tweets MLB.com's Carrie Muskat. Sveum interviewed for the Red Sox manager job today.
chico65
Now there’s a shocker
Mike McLellan
Terry Francona’s phone will be ringing real soon. He will be the next Cubs manager for Theo.
commenter3346
Except the rumors in Boston was that the 2 weren’t on the best of terms towards the end of the year & when asked if he’d ever work for Theo again, Francona didn’t seem like he would.
Mike McLellan
Theo also said that he would NOT have left the Red Sox if Francona stayed! Watch and see, he will be there.
Phillies_Aces35
You’re taking the quote completely out of context.
He said he left because he felt like it was the perfect opportunity for somebody new to start fresh and that wouldn’t have been the case if Tito was still there. He was going to leave next year regardless.
MB923
Do you think he would have left if the Red Sox lived up to their expectations and at the very worst, at least make it to the WS?
Howie Handles
Francona has said that he wants to coach a contender.
MB923
Guess he’s taking his talents to Houston
Alan
is terry francona in the running or is epstein not a tito fan
Jeff 30
There’s a typo Tim. It should say: The search for Ryne Sandberg begins immediately.
Tyler 17
I think you missed the whole MAJOR LEAGUE COACHING experience, not Minor League
Jeff 30
He’ll get an interview. Guarantee it.
MB923
An interview but I’m sure nothing more than that.
Tyler 17
Anytime someone guarantee’s something it reminds me of the scene on Tommy Boy. haha
dbreer23
that part was just posted in the past 5 minutes
chico65
Umm, no. The Sveum statement was just added. Tim didn’t change a quoted statement…
dbreer23
Initially, the entire quote was not posted…only the first sentence, followed by “…”
chico65
That’s funny, considering it was there when I posted the first comment on this thread over 45 minutes ago…
dbreer23
I stand corrected…but I sure don’t remember seeing the entire quote…
chico65
Eh, it happens to the best of us from time to time. I didn’t mean to bust your balls. They can be a bit sly with the edits to their own material on this site…it’s just that I’ve never known Tim to monkey around with quoted material.
Jeff 30
The quote just wasn’t on the original post. He then added it. All told the post was updated 4 times (that I saw). Originally it was just the first 2 lines… then the quote was added… then the bit about that meaning Ryne is likely not being considered… then the part about Sveum was added.
Jeff 30
You’re actually correct. When I commented the full quote was not up there. I posted 1 minute after it went up and it was added a few minutes later.
dbreer23
Great – so I’m not losing ALL of my mind – lol
chico65
Funny how when I commented before you it was, but whatever. The free agent signing period is upon us, hooray!
Bobby P
Doesn’t look like he’ll be strongly considered. The Cardinals, however, have asked permission to interview him.
I’m not in the “Ryne for manager” sweepstakes, but I certainly do not want him to be the next Cardinals manager. That gives me the shivers…
WhenMattStairsIsKing
With the childish way he left the Cubs organization, like a big angry baby, I don’t ever want him managing the Cubs without a formal apology. Hendry had every reason to pick the guy he thought was right at that time, and that has to be respected.
Bobby P
Well, I have no problem with it. But most Cubs fans hate Quade and would probably give a limb for Ryno to manage the Cubs. Personally, I couldn’t care less who the manager is. We have bigger problems. I just don’t like the idea of a Cubs favorite managing the rival team.
As for the childish way he left, I don’t know about that one. He left to give himself a better chance for a major league job, but yes, it was sort of a “pick me or I’m out of here” ultimatum. I thought that was kind of a weird way to go about things. Why go from AAA Iowa to AAA Iron Pigs? Kind of a lateral move, and he might have even been a MLB bench coach in Chicago, so I do agree with the fact that you do have a good point, sir.
cubs223425
Cry baby way? He was told that if he worked in the minors and did well, he would get a shot to manage. He excelled in the minors and was cast aside for Quade, based on a late-season surge to 5th place.
Then Sandberg went and did well managing the Iron Pigs and Quade floundered.
If Sandberg becomes the next Cardinals manager, then the Cubs screwed up something awful.
Mark
Hendry picked his BoBo, Q-ball, and he was canned today as an affirmation of Hendry’s stupidity.
ChiCubs13
Quade is a good guy, just not a good manager. Managing the big leagues was just way over his head. Thanks for trying Quade, wish you the best. However, I won’t miss any of this nicknames you gave the players…
Howie Handles
I don’t necessarily agree that he was in over his head. The team was crap, with a few bad apples, to boot. Don’t know if any manager could have won with that pile of $$$$
SaintJimmy
Yeah, I think it’s hard to say what he would have done with a better squad. In roughly 200 games total, he was only 9 games under as a manager. I didn’t agree with all of Quade’s moves, but that record is probably about right for the talent he had available.
Bobby P
Don’t tell that to Cubs fans. I tried to bring that up on a Cubs forum and everybody jumped all over me.
As a Cubs fan myself, I do agree with your assessment completely. People just like to blame someone for the team’s performance last year. The Cubs are currently a bad team. Theo is here to fix it, but he’s not a miracle worker. You have to give him a couple of years.
ChiCubs13
Watching him all year long, I believe he was in over his head. I don’t disagree that the team wasn’t very good. They weren’t very good. However some his decisions that he made makes me question his ability to manage. The constant playing of veterans and letting the young kids rot on the bench. Leaving pitchers in way too long, and I mean way too long, just because they “earned it”. When the pitcher doesn’t have it that day, or is near the end, you pull him.
Coollet
LaCava?
dbreer23
He’s a GM candidate, but no managerial experience…
Mike McLellan
LaCava is GM material, not Manager material.
cubs223425
He refused to be the BAL GM. I don’t think he’d go from TOR assistant GM to CHC manager.
Andy Forrester
I’m sure everyone will be screaming for Terry Francona.
start_wearing_purple
Ten bucks on Sandberg.
Josh Dickens
Within the next five years, the Chicago Cubs manager will be Greg Maddux. That will instantly vault them to my 2nd favorite team behind the Rangers.
cubs223425
I think a more likely move would be Sanberg as manager and Maddux as pitching coach, something I’ve been dying for since he retired.
MB923
Hmm, could it be this guy coming?
chico65
Minus the hair though
MB923
And the position
cubs223425
He’s probably as good as anyone else currently on the roster.
MB923
Haha, well I know his temper is a bit better than Zambrano’s.
mistermonkey
Totally Tito. With Grady Little as bench coach.
MB923
Maybe Pedro, Nomar, Ortiz and Manny go too.
WhenMattStairsIsKing
Manny Ramirez should definitely manage. Albert Belle can be the new hitting coach.
chico65
I was thinking more like anger management consultant
Ryno1984
“he must have managerial or coaching experience at the major league level”
That rules out Ryno
But if the Cubs truly want to continue a relationship with him, they need to put Ryno on the coaching staff so he would be NEXT in line.
dbreer23
I know Ryno is an obvious choice, but I wonder if Davey Martinez might get an interview.
kwiell
Dave Martinez’s Blackberry totally just blew up.
RMR
If Sandberg was an option, why in the world would Theo specifically mention major league managerial or coaching experience as a requirement?
cubs223425
To surprise us with a great Christmas present!
missyae
Francona with Ryno as bench coach for now
MMoran
And the “for now” is the exact reason why Sandberg WON’T be bench coach. Nobody’s going to hire a guy to their staff to replace them. It will be the stupid “backup quarterback” argument every day.
mistermonkey
“he must have managerial or coaching experience at the major league level”
That couldn’t be much clearer. No Ryne Sandberg.
Steve Polheber
It does say coaching or managerial experience at the major league level, which could eliminate Ryno from consideration
Alan
wasnt ryne already a major league coach..so no elimination of theo’s requirement
Ryno1984
No, other than minor-league managing, the only other coaching experience he has had was as a spring training instructor — not the same thing.
dbreer23
No MLB coaching yet – has done everything from Spring Training to instructional league to minor leagues, but no MLB coaching experience whatsoever.
Phillies_Aces35
No. He’s had cups of coffee during Spring Training and I don’t know if he sat on the bench for the Cubs last year but he was on the Phillies bench in September. (I’m not sure what his job title would have been).
michael pegarsch
ryne has never been a major coach i have no idea what you are referring to
yankeefan3
Crazy thought: Managing the Cubs has supposedly been Joe Girardi’s dream job since he was a kid growing up in Chicago. Could a trade be in the cards, followed by the Yankees signing Francona?
commenter3346
Wasn’t Giardi offered that job last year or 2 years ago & he turned it down or something?
Ry.the_Stunner
I doubt it, since Lou was under contract for like 4 years and you can’t just “offer” the job to someone who’s under contract with another team.
Alan
id love for girardi to be traded to the cubbies..they can have epsteins buddy cashman too..epstein likes hanging with cashman..he makes epstein seem better looking and smarter too
Jeff Stoddard
Sounds like Jimmy Williams to me. And the return of Wendell Kim.
downanddirty
I’m thinking Bobby Valentine.
WhenMattStairsIsKing
Just because Tom Dreeson is from Chicago doesn’t mean we should hire his MLB twin.
missyae
Jim Riggleman could end up somewhere
WhenMattStairsIsKing
I do not want a second stint with Riggleman.
azdsnd
It’d be lollerbladingly funny if Francona went to Chicago now.
Ryno1984
Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
Sources: #Cardinals have asked permission to interview Ryne Sandberg for managerial opening.
Ryno1984
I wonder if that will make the Cubs blink …..
FNDomination
Yeah. They will blink tears of happiness.
Shawn McCullough
Years ago the Phillies wouldn’t consider hiring Richie Ashburn has their manager because the GM didn’t want to be the guy who would eventually have to fire him. Is this the same case? I never understood why Quade was hired over him. I think if Sandberg stays in the Phillies system, he will replace Charlie Manuel as manager, when the time comes.
Phillies_Aces35
I want someone to hire Mackannin so that Ryno becomes the bench coach.
East Coast Bias
What happened to Francona to the Cards?
WhenMattStairsIsKing
It may not be in the cards.
missyae
Bobby V. could be a fit for Theo in Chicago, he wasnt in Boston
Jimmy the G
No you can’t have Charlie Manual’s replacement so bugger off
Neil Tatro
Bob Brenley. Id put money on it.. he knows the cubs players better than anyone and hes won a world series managing
Howie Handles
I wouldn’t be opposed to that, but that would kind of blow. I like him as a broadcaster. Somehow I feel Theo is going to grab someone with Red Sox roots for his first manager. Sveum, Hale, etc. I can’t see it being Francona. He’s spoiled, and would probably want a team closer to winning.
Neil Tatro
Agreed, i love Brenley in the booth as well. He just seems so knowledgable of the team
WhenMattStairsIsKing
Brenly*
Vossome93
That’s too bad. Quade sucked.
chico65
He’s now free to return the atmosphere to Mars
WrigleyTerror37
Ryno!!! for the love of god dont let him go this time! especially to St.Louis!!!!
Fool me once shame on me
fool me twice shame on you…..(points finger at rickets…)
michael pegarsch
What about Brenly? It won’t be Ryne, because he has no big league experience. And it won’t be Tito, because I’m sure he wants a contending team to manage.
mattwilson1
Are you kidding me??!! They won’t hire Sandberg, but they’ll hire Sveum or Listach or somebody like that?? Sandberg fits for so many reasons: Cubs icon, has experience in their minor league system, is young enough to possibly be around for a long time, etc. On top of that, you’re not only going to shoot him down for a second time to become manager, but then let him walk to your biggest rival in the Cardinals? What happened to “building from within and for long term success”? What a joke.
rsanchez1
If they’re really ruling out Sandberg… What an insult to him. Ryne Sandberg remained committed to the organization even after retiring and managed for their minor league teams, then they insulted him by giving Lou’s job to Quade. They keep insulting him by not considering him.
With executives like that, who needs curses?
crashcameron
suddenly everybody wants to trade for or trade GMs and managers!
bomberj11
It’s the new “thing”, that’s what’s trending right now.
touchmymonkey
Sveum? if we want old brewers get Phil Garner.. I wouldn’t mind Bowa, Brenly or even giving trammell a shot
TankCubs
Not hiring Sandberg is the best thing Theo can do. The meatheads can go and pout in the corner if they don’t like it.
Robert George
Sandberg was already called by Theo and told he is not going to even be interviewed for the job, so I think we can put this to rest now. Hopefully, he would consider a job as the bench coach under the next manager, but that would be entirely up to Sandberg and whoever gets the manager job.
Robert George
By the way, the thought of Dave Martinez really disgusts me. Not only would Ryno be passed up…again, but then to hire a guy who banged Ryno’s wife and sent him to early retirement? There would be no bigger slap in the face. He would never return to Chicago, even if they offered him the Manager, GM, President, and majority ownership the next year. Dave Martinez has proven that dipping his wick is more important than team, city, family, or friends. He is a worthless human being. Might as well hire Raphael Palmiero as bench coach while they are at it. I’m sure there were a couple of other players nailing that slut Cindy Sandberg. Let’s find them and hire them, too! I really hope Martinez is not a part of the team. Ever.
Robert George
I was not calling for Ryno as manager last year. I thought one or two more years in the minors would be fine and we could hopefully hire him after Quade, if Quade didn’t work out. However, now is the time. He is the best candidate out there and has proven himself in two organizations and at every level of the minors. A bench coach in the majors learns much less about managing that a minor league manager I would think. His time has come-well it should have come. I don’t think we will be seeing the Great Ryne Sandberg around Wrigley for a long time-if ever again. Sad, sad day.
gr8testsoxfan
How about Sandy Alomar Jr.