The Angels are looking for a new general manager after dismissing Tony Reagins and assistants Ken Forsch and Gary Sutherland. Here’s the latest on their offseason plans, starting with an update on who will be making the decisions…
- The Angels are having meetings this week to determine whether to hire a new general manager from within or add someone from outside of the organization, according to Scott Miller of CBS Sports (on Twitter). Angels manager of baseball operations Tory Hernandez was one person who came up when we were compiling our list of GM Candidates; Mike DiGiovanna of the LA Times mentioned him as a possible candidate yesterday.
- Bill Shaikin of the LA Times believes Angels owner Arte Moreno should hire a general manager with a vision for success and strong relationships with teams and agents. As Shaikin points out, “the Angels' preferred one-and-done approach on offers to major free agents has largely failed.”
- Josh Hamilton told Lyle Spencer of MLB.com that the Rangers might want to acquire another Angel this offseason. Texas successfully added Vladimir Guerrero before the 2010 season and Mike Napoli last offseason, so Hamilton's hoping for more (Twitter link). "I think we're going to look at who we can get from the Angels next year," he said.
Thomas Crow
How about Jeff Mathis?
HolaAmigas
Joel Pineiro? Take him.
bjsguess
Wouldn’t be a bad pick up for Texas. Ground ball pitcher who is reasonably affordable. You could do a lot worse in the back of the rotation.
Diablo 2
How bout Kaz.. He is still out there for anyone to grab and his last team was Angels..Abreu no i hope we trade abreu and mathis with callaspo to Marlins for Anibal Sanchez or some kid in the there minor system thats ready to play
Lefty
Quite “Frankly” I am unsure as to who the Angels should hire as GM, but whomever it is, You gotta tell him . . . to take care of things a little better. You can’t give away players for free and always be vigilant when evaluating talent. I hope the Orioles are doing the same!
notsureifsrs
good tips
iains
Oh no! Not cousin Gary!
bjsguess
I can care less about the name and more about the approach. Anyone in the current FO that provided ANY sort of sign-off on the Wells trade should be fired/excluded from consideration as a GM.
With a payroll around $130-$140m the Angels should be a 95 win team every season. Anything less than that would be a failure.
$7562574
go look at the red sox.
ellisburks
And it was a failure. What is your point?
Lunchbox45
i agree with your first point
strongly disagree with your second.
Jason Davis
if you can care less, please do so.
CAD_Monkey
Do the Rangers have any washed up players with bad contracts the Angels can trade Trumbo for?
Sean
Hamilton is tight, angels are old. end of story
Wes9825
end of story? That’s why you’re Texas.
We don’t want any of your juicing, cokehead players or managers. Sad, really.
Maybe you can get to the World Series again and win more than one game this time.
Lunchbox45
at least you’re not bitter..
and ps. regardless of what has happened in Josh Hamilton’s life, he has more talent in his pinkie finger than you have in your entire body.
Rangersfan32 2
Lol, most ignorant post I’ve ever seen. Why don’t you give us another player you don’t need that can have career numbers and kick your teams a** all year long again.
Wes9825
THE TEXAS RANGERS: CELEBRATING ANYTHING SINCE 2010.
Rangersfan32 2
You mad bro?
Rangersfan32 2
You mad bro?
Diablo 2
both players aquaried by Rangers did have good numbers.. Angels knew Nap was going to snap this year but were dumb enough to trade him and Rivera to jays . and daady Vladdy has been a beast long before son..
Haloobsessed
Let’s give the rangers pinero, Mathis, and callaspo.
As far as a GM I really think we need to step outside the box. Let’s go with someone who won’t just say yes to what sosh says. Don’t get me wrong he is the preeminent manager in baseball (he does more with less better than any other manager in baseball) but for once let’s value a hitter over a glove.
We need someone who can accurately decipher what we need as a team. It’s clear we need a stick and help in the bullpen. There are options out there, and I’m confident someone can help our club!
After watching scioscia for years I can only wonder what he would do with a lineup that could hit.
niched
If Reagins hadn’t made that one horrible move for Vernon Wells then I bet he’d still be GM. The Kazmir trade was bad too though within the bounds of reason. Certainly staying away from Carl Crawford looks smart with the benefit of hindsight. But the trade for Wells will go down as one of the worst in history — maybe the worst. These ridiculous contracts formerly good baseball players get to ride out are killing the game. The labor agreement with the MLBPA needs to be renegotiated so players have to make the team every year or they don’t get paid.
Jake White
He didn’t really stay away from Crawford, to be fair – Crawford just jumped on Boston’s offer of 7/$142 first, not even giving LA the chance to counter, depending on who you want to believe. Reagins wanted Crawford. Also though, who’s to say Crawford would have sucked as bad playing out in LA? A bit less pressure than Boston…
niched
Yeah, I agree the Angels wanted Crawford. Who wouldn’t want him? But everything comes down to price and value. I suspect Reagins never would have tried to match Boston’s offer even if he had the opportunity. It’s impossible to know if Crawford would have had a better season on another team. I’m sure Boston isn’t the easiest place to play, but the fact that there is more pressure there isn’t much of an excuse. AGon handled the pressure just fine. Having said that I think Crawford will have a better year next season, but I doubt he’ll ever be worth near what he’s getting paid.
Shu13
Had the Angels expected VW to collapse the way he did there is no way they would have made that trade….there were no signs that he would tank soooo bad….yes the contract was high but had VW matched his career numbers or been at least close(in something other then HR’s) the trade wouldn’t have looked sooo bad….NOT 1 person has said since the trade was announced that this was a bad trade b/c VW wouldn’t produce and Nap was going to have a career year when (as a surprise to EVERYONE) he was flipped to the launching pad in Texas….I’m in FULL agreement that long contracts suck….4yr MAX guaranteed contracts…then anything longer then that go to mutual options…this way teams can get out of bad contracts and players just don’t sit back and get fat(figuratively)….they stay hungry to play hard
niched
The Angels had every reason to think Vernon Wells could collapse as bad as he did based on his past history. His 2007 and 2009 numbers were terrible; his OPS was barely above .700 both of those seasons. His career OPS is .792, which suggests he should be paid about half as much as he currently makes, maybe even less. Even in a good year, at $20 million plus, he is overpaid. Wells has been extremely inconsistent most of his career, which is why Toronto fans were happy to be rid of him even after having a good 2010. Even if the Angels had given up nothing for Wells it would have been highly questionable due to the huge increase in his salary. History suggests he’ll have a good 2012 and then a terrible 2013. If the Angels are lucky he’ll have a very good first half of 2012, and then they’ll be able to dump him on some contender desperate for a slugger.
You’re incorrect when you say no one thought it was a bad trade at the time. If you look for articles and posts about the trade from back in January, you’ll find a number of people critical of the trade just after it happened. Look for Bill Shaikin’s LA Times article from January 27th, and look at the Blue Jays message boards from back at that time. Blue Jays fans were ecstatic about the trade; they couldn’t believe the Angels were desperate enough to go for it. There are more too though I haven’t had time to look them up.
But at least we agree something needs to be done about these ridiculous contracts 🙂
Marc
Move Scioscia to GM and get a new approach on the field. The Angels have been hamstrung by the small ball and defense first approach of Scioscia. The Halos have been snakebit with the injury to Morales and the death of Adenhart. Those situations have caused the team to sign/trade for players that have impacted their budget moving forward. That’s outside the reach of even a great GM – Reagins was not by any stretch, but he did well in acquiring Tex and Haren, those deals should be pointed out. The trade for Wells wouldn’t have been so bad had they forced the Jays to pick up a large percentage of the deal. Something in the range of 40% would have been expected.
GM must: Fix the power void at 3B – avoid Aramis Ramirez, perhaps take a flyer on Ian Stewart or sign Kouzmanoff to a minor league deal. Give Conger the everyday gig for a season at C and allow him to sink or swim. Pray Morales comes back healthy. Find a taker for the final year of Abreu, get a veteran right hander in the pen or an innings eater type for the back end of the rotation, in return. Kick the tires on Sabathia if he opts out – the club can afford him with the loss of Abreu and Hunter after 2012.
Justin
Scioscia as a GM would be a nightmare. We’re talking about the same guy that thinks Jeff Mathis is premium. There are plenty of great potential GM candidates, and none of them are located within the Angels organization. The Angels need a fresh set of eyes on this organization and as long as they promote from within you can be assured Scioscia will continue to call a lot of the shots.
carllafong
Why would you move Scioscia to GM when the issue is that his assessment of talent and approving trades is the very issue we are facing?
cookmeister
I’m interested to see how the offseason shakes out for the Angels. I would hope that Arte Moreno would feel somewhat responsible for the Wells deal (i know Reagins was the GM, but people forget that Moreno signed off on the deal before it went down). I can honestly see a slight bump in payroll to make a splash to kind of get rid of any ill feelings he may or may not have.
GriffeyandSizemore
The Rangers acquire Vernon Wells for a Josh Hamilton bobblehead….8 months later Vernon Wells is batting .341 with 38hr’s and 120rbi’s.
Lunchbox45
lol so true, he can only hit 2 places, rogers center and texas.
disgustipated85
Someone who is stupid enough to get addicted to Drugs like he did should not be talking.
BurtisHB 2
So a drug addiction is a matter of intelligence? What’s your drug of choice?
Joe Wright
WEED!!!
disgustipated85
Yes, drug addiction is a matter of intelligence. Everyone who has any kind of education is told constantly through childhood and adolescence that drugs are bad and will ruin lives. Dont do them. They are illegal for a reason. So yes, he is stupid for ignoring the constant warnings.
Lunchbox45
Unless you’ve never broken the law and have never done anything wrong in your life, please don’t talk. You sound like a complete square.
Lunchbox45
Unless you’ve never broken the law and have never done anything wrong in your life, please don’t talk. You sound like a complete square.
Lunchbox45
I hate people like you.
Devon Henry
how bout mathis for a bag of crack? im sure Ron Washington would approve…
Shu13
Washington wouldn’t give up a bag a crack for Mathis….
Devon
And i am hoping for Hamilton to relapse. Smoke crack josh, smoke crack
Rangersfan32 2
Angels fans look like idiots on these boards.
John W
And geniuses compared to Rangers fans
Rangersfan32 2
This board proves otherwise.
JonC
I’m an Angel’s fan and find the people posting on here about the former drug problems of players as ignorant, the guy admits to what he did and has changed his life and look at him now.
As far as the Angels i would have Trumbo play winter ball and try to work some at 3rd base, that way if in spring training if Morales comes back and proves to be healthy you have solved your power problems at 3rd base. Then for the outfield see how Abreu and Wells are hitting in spring and if they still struggle, have them DH matchup lefty/righty matchups cause abreu cant hit lefties. if you end up doing that then you bring up trout, and have more outfield defense and speed on the bases.
batting order if Trumbo can play 3rd and Morales comes back healthy.
Aybar SS
Boujos CF Bench: Wilson, Izturis, Callaspo
Kendrick 2B
Trumbo 3B
Hunter RF
Morales 1B
Abreu/Wells DH
Conger C
Trout LF
Joe Wright
LMFAO That lineup couldnt hold a candle to Texas. Morales hasnt played in almost 2.5 years. What makes you think he’ll even be back? Anyways, the Angels suck and you can blame Arte Moreno for that.
1) Conger sucks so bad it’s not even funny
2) Trumbo might actually decline next year and strike out more than he did this year (120k’s)
3) Kendrick is going to be traded unless they extend his contract
4) Morales isnt going to be back
5) Abreu will be gone
6) Trout isnt MLB ready
7) that is the weakest bench I’ve ever seen
Wes9825
Wow, what a Texas tool. Go fall off a railing, then you’d make it 3 idiots this year in Texas to do that. But, that’s Texas hayseeds for ya.
Oh, and win more than one game in the WS and then you can talk trash at the Angels. You guys are cute though, with yer little one year trip outta the ALDS…Awww, look at Texas!
Joe Wright
I’m not even a Ranger fan. But thanks?
Diablo 2
I agree Conger does suck.. Trumbo will be great tho… Kendrick wont get traded..Morales i hope will be back..Abreu i hope gets traded to Marlins along with callaspo and Mathis FOR ANIBAL!…and Trout isnt MLB ready he needs one year in minors so he can get his hitting going
12DenoEbel12
Trumbo likely won’t be playing winter ball because of his foot injury
Diablo 2
All Angels need is to sign A-ram…. and Morales to be 110% back and blood thirsty.. Also maybe sign or trade for a starter the pen is awesome aslong as the offense picks it up the pen will look great with Richy,Bobby, and scotty it looks solid hopefully Walden blows 4 games or less next year and the pen will look supurb.. So ya A-ram and sign Cj or trade for Anibal like i said for Abreu,Mathis, and callaspo.. Why not Anibal will hit his prime but idk if Marlins wuld want to just saying!
Diablo 2
Anothe thing angels can also use a new catcher!
Diablo 2
ANGELS HAVE MONEY TO SIGN A-RAM!!! AND A STARTER LIKE CJ BUT I PREFER TRADING FOR ANIBAL!!!!!!!!!
Diablo 2
If we sign A-ram and trade Abreu and callaspo and Mathis everything is solved.. A-ram 3b..Trumbo RF..Morales 1b.. and Hunter/wells DH/LF!!!!