There seems to be no shortage of on- and off-field baseball news coming out of the Big Apple these days. Here's some of the latest out of New York …
- High-ranking baseball people are concerned about whether the Wilpons will be able to keep the Mets in the wake of the ongoing Madoff fallout, writes Jon Heyman of SI.com. MLB Commissioner Bud Selig, a "friend and ally" of Wilpon's, according to Heyman, will give Wilpon a long leash in sorting through the mess, but some are doubting whether the Wilpons can withstand a loss worth half or even a quarter of the $1 billion that Madoff trustee Irving Picard is seeking.
- The Yankees may actually benefit if CC Sabathia opts out of his contract after 2011, writes Joe Sheehan of SI.com. Typically, opt-out clauses are considered player-friendly, but because of Sabathia's injury risk due to his body type and age between 2012-15, the Yanks might do well to let Sabathia walk and spend the money elsewhere, according to Sheehan, especially with some promising pitching prospects on the way up. One interesting hypothetical posed by Sheehan: Let Sabathia walk, move Mark Teixeira to full-time DH duties and sign potential free agent Albert Pujols.
- The Mets won their grievance case with catcher Yorvit Torrealba, writes Adam Rubin of ESPNNewYork.com. An arbitrator ruled that the Mets were within their rights to call off a three-year, $14.4MM agreement they had reached with Torrealba following the 2007 season upon conducting a physical which caused them "concerns" about the condition of Torrealba's throwing shoulder.
tomymogo
Move Texeira the gold glover to DH? No way, just trade him for pitching, in that extremely hypothetical situation
woadude
Yeah and if Sheehan wants to stay in dream land why not just flip Tex to the Mariners for King Felix and have the Royals give them Joakim Soria for Chamberlain, and the Yanks sign Pujols for 20 million a year because by god, doesnt every player want to be a Yankee?
East Coast Bias
YES! Finally, someone gets it!
Justin J. Bartz
Sorry, enough with these fantasies of trading Teixeira. He has a full no-trade clause. I don’t see him waiving that to leave New York anytime soon.
Redsox1324
Texiara. A gold glove defender as full time DH. That’s a crime to Tex and the game.
jwsox
not if you have albert playing 1st who has a better track history of both gold glove Defence(that statement lost a ton of credibility after jeter won it this past season) and is a better over all offensive player
wickedkevin
So the Yankees let CC walk… Move Tex to DH, have Pujols play 1B fulltime, and then they sign… Scot Kazmir?
oops 🙂
Dylan Zane
Sheehan is definitely not thinking with his head, if you want pujols in pinstripes, you trade Teix and use the money for tex on cc to stay. If CC opts out the yankees are screwed for the next coming years anyway unless Hughes reaches his potential sooner rather than later.
woadude
No team is going to give any prospects for the privilege of taking on Tex’s contract, no team, not even the Cubs.
Dylan Zane
I never said you would get much back for Teix… you would just sign Pujols. I want to be clear that in no way am I saying the yankees will get Pujols, or trade Teix and get anything valuable back
Brad426
You know Tex has a NTC, right?
Dylan Zane
Yea I do, that’s why it’s unlikely, but lets say rumors start getting thrown around the Teix is on the block/the yankees are fielding offers for him (like the young situation)… players don’t like to hear that, maybe he would demand a trade. You never know
Brad426
Yeah, certainly not out of the realm. Just wasn’t sure if everyone was aware of his NTC. His salary coupled with the NTC sure makes it seem unlikely he could get moved.
Dylan Zane
You’re better off paying Teix $20 million then Fielder 20 million, that’s how I’m thinking about it.
woadude
having a NTC makes the scenario that he is on the trading block seem pretty delusional.
boruch
if cc ops out i can see him landing in philly and now that is one hell of a starting five
jmcbosox
ugh…
East Coast Bias
My thoughts exactly.
Anthony
Yeah, why be an ace on the most successful franchise in baseball history when you can be a #3 or #4 guy on a different aging club? The Phillies would likely have to decline Oswalts $16 million option for 2012 and hope Hamels gives them a hometown discount in order for Sabathia to land there. Oh, and Sabathia would probably have to take less money as well….
RedSoxDynasty
Nice dream you’re having there! Time to wake up now!
ritz
While the thought it scary, I think the Phillies are going to have more holes to fill than worry about paying another pitcher 20M+.
Jason
well, if they let him walk they can promote a pitcher or 2, and sign a pitcher or 2…I love CC but Halladay is the best pitcher in the game, and NOONE should make more that much than him, not even Lee…I know its business and “fair market blah blah blah”, but if you can bring in 3-4 good players for the price of one, its worth looking into. They will have to re-sign Cano at some point so there is money right there…Pujols would be a dream, but far fetched, but you never know. Pujols and a FA pitcher and promoting 2 of our big guys to give a shot might be worth trying, even for the Yanks…
YanksFanSince78
There’s no one worth signing in winter 2011 that comes anywhere near to being an ace.
Matt R.
Rodriguez and Jeter are going to need DH time in the not-so-distant future. Signing Pujols is contingent upon moving Teixeira to another team or to the DH spot, or moving one of the other players set to occupy the DH spot to free it up for Teixeira or Pujols. Too many moving pieces and even the Yankees shouldn’t invest that much money into a 1B / DH combo.
(I’m going to remember I wrote this when Pujols signs with the Yankees don’t worry)
monkeyspanked
The gall of Yankeedom is so ridiculous. Why don’t they just sign everybody, then just order the other teams to lose. Then they can be world champions every year.
YanksFanSince78
Or maybe you should realize that was suggested by a writer and not a fan. I think 85% of Yankee fans know it’s not happening (Pujols).
East Coast Bias
Because there aren’t enough roster spots duh
Dylan Zane
How about this idea, very different then most but whatever. If CC opts out, let him walk.
2012 rotation is very shaky, but that would be the down year.
Hughes
Burnett
Nova
Bentances
Baunuelos
in the 2013 offseason, assuming Montero has developed into a very good hitter, trade Teix for a young starter. Move Montero to first, let Romine/Sanchez battle for the Catcher spot in ST, and then that’s it. I’m very well aware that noone will agree with this, I don’t even agree with it.
Ben_Cherington
if you dont agree then y post it?
Dylan Zane
i’m not really sure, just in case it happens i look a prophet 🙂
Ben_Cherington
lol..dont hold your breath!
Dylan Zane
You never know… but if CC opts out, it wouldn’t be that bad an idea.
Justin J. Bartz
Still trying to figure out why Teixeira would waive his FULL no-trade clause to go anywhere by that time, especially leaving a winning franchise he wanted to sign with in the first place. You have to think about it from both sides. Teixeira had the chance to play “close to home” too, so you can’t use that excuse either. He loves New York.
chris green
sanchez has only played for like half a season…i wouldn’t expect him next year. as for betances and banuelos, that’s alot of stress on two young arms who both have not thrown more then 150 innings in a single season yet. i wouldn’t let cc walk, too much chance on unproven talent.
Dylan Zane
That’s why I said Romine/Sanchez, in case Sanchez wasn’t ready. And between the 3B’s, you can get the innings for 2 rotation spots. Especially since all 3 aregoing to be in AAA this year, where I promise you they will get 150 innings each. Then they’ll jump to 175 the next year in the mlb. That’s not a big deal in terms of gradual inning increases.
Guest 7284
I think that is what they would have to roll with if CC opts out.
YanksFanSince78
You are being very optimistic. As much as I “got love” for Yankee top prospects we can’t assume that any of them are going to be sure things. There’s no way Cashman would go that route unless he absolutely is forced to.
I can see a rotation in the near future of…
CC, Hughes, Burnett/Nova, and then two of some of those rookies. The 2013 class of FA pitchers is great but who knows who will make it to the open market.
BillB325
Cubs sign Fielder and Sabathia and become a very overwieghted team………… in 2 ways
BillB325
a very overwieghted team*
Ben_Cherington
do you understand how good he is though. Price was very polished and an abboration
ahhh reply fail! F U disqus!
BillB325
its fine I didn`t say either of them were less then very good I`m just saying
chris green
stop dreaming, teix has a full no-trade clause, he isn’t going anywhere.
BaseballFanatic0707
My only hope is that the Yankees don’t bid against themselves when it comes time to resign him, since no team out there would pony up 20m a year for him other than the Yanks.
Of course, based on recent history, my hopes are rather far-fetched.
Alvaro
Both Pujols and Teix have played 3rd, Teix has a great arm…
YanksFanSince78
Yeah but both are 30-31 and haven’t played there in years. No one should ask them to do that. Arod’s move to 3B was easier because he was a SS at the time.
humbb
Mets start the season 1-0!!
Anthony
Damn it, why couldn’t Pujols just resign with the Cardinals? Now an entire season of absurd rosterbation………..:(
YanksFanSince78
An entier season? That’s a lot of Jurgens (is that what the kids use now)?
Anthony
I have no idea what you’re getting at, but I’ll use this as an opportunity to say that even as an optimistic, life-long Braves fan……I dislike Jair Jurrjens for a number of reasons. I refuse to get into those reasons due to lack of logic, but basically I’d like to see him traded for say…….Brett Gardner? The Yankees could use Jurrjens and his 2009 season and the Braves could certainly use Gardner.
hardcoreforhardcore
Jurgens is a lotion. He was getting at your rosterbation comment.
BentoBox
Appropriate username too.
Anthony
Ahh, I see a ton of people spell Jurrjens that way. Guess that flew by me.
YanksFanSince78
“What airline would JJ need to fly from for his physical?”
B.Cashman
Anthony
Doubt the Yankees are that desperate. It’s pretty clear that Jurrjens has relatively underwhelming stuff, ERA aside. He’s a solid #3. Not sure how big the Yankees are on Gardner, but he’s certainly more valuable than Jurrjens.
Unless this is the second one in a row from you that flew by my head tonight. A little baked, if I’m honest.
inleylandwetrust
*Whoosh*
East Coast Bias
hahaaha excellent reply!
Guest 7287
or let him walk, and get pitching…
Oswalt, Carpenter, and (a possibly somewhat re-established) Brandon Webb will be available in Free agency (possibly)…
Although they’re all kind of old and/or injury prone… so, a trade might be a better option.
dylanp5030
Barring injuries, Oswalt will either retire or be in Philly next year…why would he leave that situation?
woadude
wow, I am seven likes away from being in the 500 club
Dylan Zane
I’m in the 200 club, but the real question is how many comments you had
East Coast Bias
welcome. bathroom’s on the left.
woadude
Again, Let this sink into your pin striped thick skulls Albert Pujols will NOT BE A YANKEE….and here is another fact to sink in TEXIERA WON’T WAIVE HIS NO TRADE CLAUSE.
Guest 7283
Man you take this rumor pretty “seriously”. I can actually feel the anger and hate coming from this post at Yankees fans. Almost like a jilted lover or something….
YanksFanSince78
“Put a finger on each side of your temple and rub in a circular motion and say moo-sah. It’s worked wonders for me all winter.”
B. Cashman.
dc21892
So if I’m reading that right, it’s saying let Sabathia walk and sign Pujols. Well then, that leaves NY with virtually no pitching. Sure, go get all the offense you can and hope you score more than enough runs when your team is posting a 6 ERA all season.
Anthony
How about the Yankees package their top 5 starting pitching prospects in an attempt to land Kelly Johnson?
optionn
The Yankee’s have 3 or 4 guys making the salary that is in the ballpark of what Pujols is going to command. If they want him bad enough they’ll just sign him to age 42 like they did Arod.
Leonard Washington
I doubt the Yanks do more than check in on Pujols. It would force them to create the worlds most expensive 1st/DH platoon. Not to mention it would jeopardize A-Rod, Jeter, and possibly Posada’s future with the team. As far as CC goes I think he will stay put either way because the Yanks cannot afford to lose him, there will continue to be very few elite SP options available.
Michael Sommer
Sheehan forgets something. Moving Teixeira to DH and having Pujols play 1B still leaves a left side of the infield that is aging. Even if that happens, in 2012, Jeter would be 38 in June, and A-Rod 37 in July. They will need DH at bats and less time in the field. Hey, Sheehan— THINK THINGS THROUGH!
0bsessions
“Why do you think it will go fine if it was left to Cashman? ”
Personally, I’d say it’s because he’s exhibited this offseason that he actually gets the concept of where to draw the line. He’ll obviously overpay a guy and he makes some big mistakes, but he also seems to accept that outbidding himself just because he can is no way to do business.
Brandon Green
A lot of talk about money and players going here and there. CC is from the west coast, and if he were to op-out I think he would want to try and go back there. As he has started to establish roots in NY, I think he would have to think really hard about uprooting his kid(s) and wife again to go anywhere but “home.” On that line of thought, I give only the Giants and the Angels any chance of pulling him away.
As far as getting AP and making Tex a DH… for a sports writer, his baseball logic is a bit off.
stonepie
haha i wrote about CC opting out and the yankees going after pujols in stead the other day. guess im not the only one thinking this…