After hearing his name in countless trade rumors and seeing his infield position filled by Adrian Beltre, Michael Young has "grown disillusioned with his diminished role" on the Rangers and wants out of Texas, according to Yahoo's Tim Brown. According to Brown, Texas has told Young that they will push to trade him in the coming days.
The Rockies and Angels remain the primary potential destinations for Young. Any trade would have to include salary relief, as he's owed $48MM over the next three years. Young would likely slot in as the everyday second baseman in Colorado or the everyday third baseman in LA, though Texas would probably prefer to avoid dealing him within the division. We heard yesterday that Jose Lopez would be a part of Colorado's latest offer.
Young's name originally hit the trade rumor circuit back at the Winter Meetings when he was first connected to the Rockies. The longtime Ranger has a lifetime .300/.347/.448 slash line and has played second base, shortstop, and third base regularly at various points throughout his career.
trade him to the Yanks so they can trade Cano for a big time arm!!!!!!!!!!!
What happened to Nolan Ryan saying everything was fine and dandy? Seems like that turned around quick.
Nolan doesnt run the entire show…
its time we ask the people in the forum, trade Young and sign Hamilton to an extension or keep young and let hamilton go…
Nolan said MY was staying, but if the article is correct, it is MY who is demanding to get out…so that negates what Nolan promised about MY being on the roster on opening day. I knew Nolan saying that publicly was a mistake because with such a volatile situation, you couldn’t predict that MY was really going to make it even to opening day.
It’s worth noting that “Michael Young is staying” was followed almost immediately by “Rangers shopping Young” or something along those lines. In other words, I think Michael Young is just tired of being told one thing and reading another in the paper and has decided it’s time to go.
Maybe Ryan is simply lying. Maybe he thinks he’s being helpful to try to stop the press enquiries while nobody knows what’s happening. Maybe it’s a case of the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing. Either way, from the press accounts it’s fairly obvious that they were trying to deal Young as Ryan was out there talking about how he’s staying. If that pisses Michael Young off, I certainly couldn’t blame him.
I was waiting for this to happen. It really is a damn shame because Young has been such a big part of the Rangers since 2001. I was hoping he wouldn’t get shipped out, but it appears as if that’s going to be the final outcome of this whole thing.
Assuming this is truth and not another false rumor that ends up getting shut down by the Rangers and MY. But, if true, then it isn’t exactly like it was a surprise when they said they were pursuing Beltre.
Man I feel for Young. They are treating him like trash. Pathetic.
Dude… Why on Earth would you ever push a player like Michael Young away to the point where he wants off your team after you just made it to the World Series for the first time?
If he goes to the Angels, Anaheim will have smashed the gavel on all the criticisms as well as many people’s assumptions that the Rangers are a growing franchise ready to succeed the Angels in the West.
If this is an accurate post, then Nolan Ryan is basically pulling the same crap Buzzy Bavasi pulled in 1979 that prompted Ryan to sign elsewhere.
And of course, one can look at it that way as well and figure not only shutting up the nay sayers, but also making up for that big mistake the Angels made in 1979.
However you look at it, this has got to be one of the most bizarre situations I’ve seen such a great player be involved in.
Yeah, it sure seems like Young deserves better.
how can the angels afford to take on another bad contract?
They can afford a lot more than what they have. Their owner is a billionaire and knows what it takes to generate even more revenue.
Define a bad contract these days.
Your icon indicates you’re a Yankees fan, so tell me how many bad contracts you have on your team.
Actually none of NY’s contracts are really that bad because you have to overpay a little if you want to spend with the big boys.
And the money that Vernon Wells makes will be a more common salary in the next few years.
The Angels can afford it.
well the difference is that the yankees’ biggest advantage is the ability to absorb bad contracts. jeter’s was a huge overpay, though it’s understandable because most of the money is because of his legend status with the yankees. arod is… just… never again lol. aj burnett was a shi**y decision. so far CC has been worth every dollar. posada’s contract is almost done, cano is still relatively cheap as is granderson and swisher and gardner. tex is being paid a lot, but he is a great hitter and a great defender. those contracts will hurt a lot in a few years, but the yankees’ payroll can probably afford it better than any other team. the difference is that the yankees did not trade for a contract that they already knew was bad. you see there was a big market for wells when he was signed, but hindsight has shown that the contract is one of the worst in baseball. to trade for the contract AFTER history has shown its failing is what the inexplicable thing is. everyone knows that arod’s contract is bad now, so someone trading for it. that would be ridiculous. or aj burnett’s contract. so yes the yankees have bad contracts, but they are extremely fortunate to be able to afford it. and at least they havent traded for zambrano or zito’s contract (yet).
bingo, theres a difference between not being able to spend money and just not spending it… as an angels fan i wouldnt mind getting young as long as we dont give up anything of value. if that means taking most of his contract so what? we need to inject another bat in the infield.
If you don’t want to give up anything of value, then you better be ready to take on ALL of the contract.
I don’t think anyone objects to spening lot’s of money or even on overpaying. The objection comes out regarding WHO they choose to spend big on and WHY they agreed to overpay. If the Angels had signed Crawford for something crazy like 8/$180 I think ppl would’ve pooped in their pants but would’ve prefered that to trading for Wells and eating his entire contract.
That depends on what the Angels would give up to get MY. Would you trade a top of the rotation pitcher for him? How about taking on his whole contract?
It may come down to the Rangers taking what they can get since it appears that Young wants out now, and that if they want to trade him to a contender, they will likely have to take prospects because a team like the Rockies isn’t depleting their pitching when they are as close as they are already.
no and no
If he goes to the Angels, then the Angels just had the worst offseason in history
GTFO Texas they have treated you like crap! I understand you moved over for the kid at SS but you have been playing awesome since you came to the majors! Now this? I agree good move time to move on you are an evey day player and a greaty hitter!
Let him be mediocre as a fielder for a team where that is considered an upgrade.
Texas treated Young like crap by setting his children’s children’s children and maybe even their children for life
How about Young to the Angels for Vernon Wells and that absurd contract? Hah!
How about Young to the Angels for Santana and Dan Haren and cash (from the Angels to the Rangers)? Actually given the Wells trade, I kind of expect this to happen.
Texas has shown a remarkable lack of class in the way they have handled Michael Young these past few months. For years, the man was the face of the franchise and did virtually anything that was asked of him (including learning three infield positions). He was a consistent, positive influence through all of their lean times, truly embodying what it meant to be a Texas Ranger.
Now that he’s getting on in years and is no longer an exploitable commodity they go and publicly shop him all over the universe. Forcing the man to read the writing on the wall that the Rangers kindly painted for him in neon, glow-in-the-dark paint.
The Baseball Karma gods are watching you, Texas. They have long tempers.
You’re absolutely right concerning Young. His downfall is that there is no alligence to him from the new ownership. He carries a large salary and is no longer vital to their success. These are the NEW Texas Rangers, remember!
I understand Michael Young isn’t that great, but loyalty is a big issue to me. This is ridiculous. As a Ranger’s fan, this disgusts me.
A mediocre team can afford to be sentimental towards long term players, but a winning team can’t.
Nice generalization with no evidence whatsoever.
Yankees and Babe Ruth. Released by Yankees at the end of 1934. Ruth should have bowed out on his terms but I don’t think Yanks let him.
like the Yankees and Jeter?
One good season and all of a sudden the Rangers are a winning team and not mediocre? Even your amazing season last year yielded you only 90 wins. I’ll be surprised if tex ends up in second place in the west.
Yeah…the Rangers should go the Astros way like they did with Biggio, Bagwell and Berkman and keep “popular” players well past their primes when they can’t play any position particularly well. You want sentimentality in MLB? Good luck in finding that when sentimentality=mediocre.
I can’t believe there are still “baseball fans” around who haven’t gotten it through their skulls that the game is about money and winning now. The owners want to win and the players want money. Happens in all the sports actually, which is why the only ones who were stunned by Lebron leaving Cleveland were just the average fans in Cleveland. Everyone else knew he was going to go for the big bucks somewhere else.
Yea you’re absolutely right. Because people can’t understand a concept if they don’t agree with it…..
There is a big difference between understanding that the game is about money & winning and liking it. Let’s face it, the world is about money & winning. That doesn’t make it right.
I disagree with your over-generalizations. Not all teams stab players in the back the second it seems to be advantageous. Not all players extort top dollar at all costs. Kerry Wood is playing for a fraction of his market value because he loves Chicago. Jim Thome turned down more from Texas to remain in Minnesota.
I just think there’s a better conclusion then “well, the moral here is Michael Young was an idiot for being loyal.” I think we are too prone to overlook the obvious fact that championships are not won solely on paper. There’s something to be said for motivation, for trust and respect.
Every player in that Rangers locker room is watching. Every player down on the farm is too. All this represents to them is what Shea Hillenbrand put on Toronto’s whiteboard a few years ago: “Play for yourselves!” Don’t worry about the team. Don’t worry about championships.
Perfectly said. Let’s see if Hamilton signs an extension to a team that is taking their FOTF and saying screw you.
I’m not sure it was actually about a difference in money for Lebron…it was more about his ego and trying to create a “legendary” force.
How about Zito for Young? Both teams get rid of crappy contracts, the Giants get a real 3B, the Rangers get a solid pitcher with a buyout clause…everyone is happy.
Oh that makes sense. Get rid of a big contract to gain a big contract. What a smart way of running of business. Go be a GM please. Oh and for the Giants, that’d be awesome.
It does make sense, actually. Yes, they are both big ugly contracts, but Young fits the Giant’s needs better and Zito fits the Ranger’s.
Zito would be the opposite of a solid pitcher in Arlington….
Zito actually has very good numbers at Arlington especially during his Oakland days.
maybe Texas should have never given Young the large amount of money that they did.
can’t blame Texas for wanting to improve in the positions he has played in the past. Beltre for an example is an improvement. they can’t really be like the Yankees and pay Young lots of money based on what has already done just to keep him around similar to Jeter.
can’t also blame Young at this point for wanting out. it’s just going to take something creative because of the contract that he doesn’t really deserve.
Yes, you get it. It is all about improving a team that lost the World Series. Loyalty to Young can only go so far when there are better players ready to fill any position he can play.
is that sarcastic as in the Rangers are doing wrong to Young?
they didn’t win the World Series, so improvement is necessary.
what would loyalty give the Rangers? make fans happy? I think fans will be happier if the team is trying to win.
You shouldn’t cherry pick when reading comments. Madman stated multiple times above this comment that he’s perfectly fine with the Ranger’s getting rid of Young.
Ah player demanding out, means reduced cost, enter AA
I’d like to see Young as a player for the Jays at 3B, but the Rangers would have to eat A LOT of money. the only player the Jays have to give back to Texas to balance out “some” salary would be Juan Rivera($5.25 MIL in 11). then Batista could play RF and Snider could be in LF.
again, Texas would have to eat A LOT of money. then other than Rivera, no clue who else would be involved.
just speaking statistically and not contract, I do like the numbers Young could put up.
still highly unlikely it would happen though.
true that. AA has a knack for picking up guys at their lowest value and getting rid of TERRIBLE contracts at their highest value…
I don’t want Young playing 3B. He’s as equal a butcher as EE.
Ok michael the hell with you. we dont need you anymore. you couldnt get us the ultimate prize. &%*( you.
You clearly don’t get it….
You must be a bandwagon Ranger fan.
yeah we dont want him to go? we just want to move the contract for help with Hamilton/Cruz/Wilson… and even Feliz/Andrus
Young for Soriano
$24MM difference, an extra year and a full no trade clause make that highly unlikely. I love your enthusiasm though.
Young for Aram who healthy enough to DH part of the time with Texas and Grabow and the Cubs pick up most of the remainder of the salary for a guy who can hit and restore credibility to the Cubs with his leadership.
The two questions for the Rockies (my team) are: Can we live with diminshed defense at 2B in favor of his bat, and how much is O’Dowd willing to part with in order to get him?
Right now I don’t see him going anywhere but here, and as long as Texas chips in significantly to his salary (like at least half) then I am okay with it.
Maybe Jose Lopez, Eric Young Jr., and a decent pitching prospect for Young plus $25 million?
young at second isnt going to be terrible. he will be average defensively and above average batting. i know people alway say how terrible his glove is, it isnt the worst one out there, just not great in any terms
It’s bad at 3rd, So I can’t imagine it being average at 2B, although Tulo will help cover some ground. His bat is average at 3B, but should be above average at 2B (and better than anything the Rockies have had at 2B in a very long time)
idk i wish people would watch him play… he isnt terrible with the glove. i mean his range isnt great but it does the job.
Shame what this has turned into
He would be the perfect 2-hole hitter for the White Sox
Kenny get it done.
yeah we will give ya feldman and young for peavy and we both wash on the salarys
Now the Angels will consider Young and his salary? Even after taking on Wells?
If the Angels are that willing to eat dough on middling players, I wish they’d take [insert name of my team’s bad contract] here.
take AJ burnett! and then give jered weaver and ervin santana to the yankees!!!!
Wow. Amazing. I’m sorta flabergasted.
Hit the nail on the head. It’s Young’s fault the Rangers flat out played him.
Just stop.
Unbelievable, I would have demanded a trade as well if I were Young. They are treating him like absolute crap for no apparent reason. He is a stand up guy who has been with them forever, put up solid numbers, and now he is cast aside like he is worthless.
Slowly filling up every position on the field as he sat and watched, and was told numerous times he was not being traded is a complete slap in the face to the man. I don’t know how the Rangers cannot be frowned upon heavily for their handling of this whole thing.
This seems like the kind of deal Kenny Williams would emerge from the shadows to make. The Sox’s biggest offensive hole is at 3B, with rookies being the only options. Young would provide a (likely) upgrade there, and the Sox could send back a pitcher to Texas. This sounds very ridiculous, and unlikely to work, but how about:
White Sox get: Michael Young and a Pitcher
Rangers get: Jake Peavy
Rangers add a guy with potential to dominate, and don’t lose money in the deal. White Sox get a solid 3B who can get on base before the heart of the order.
It seems crazy, but maybe just crazy enough to work, no? At least as long as Peavy would waive his no-trade clause to play in Texas
Hey that actually doesn’t sound too terrible.
one problem: young has power, but no ability to get the base on balls. so basically he is not the guy that gets on base before the heart of the order. he is the protection for the heart of the order.
Though he does not walk a lot, and is not going to get on base at a ridiculous clip, his OBP is .350 for his career. Though that diminished last year, it is logical to believe he would get on base enough to be a good hitter from the two hole.
As a rangers fan we would take it.
We can put Peavy,Wilson,Feliz,Lewis,Webb
i dont know about anyone else but that sounds pretty good
and of course Hunter and Holland are there incase a couple of the starters dont pan out the way they should
Yea, because Hunter’s so valuable. I can’t even understand how teams let him pitch in the majors.
because he has an awkward ability to do just good enough to win…
the 3.73 ERA last season wasnt too bad in my mind.
My Giants should look into this. How about Barry Zito and Freddie Sanchez for Micheal Young and Scott Feldman? Th dollars would be pretty even. The Rangers upgrade their rotation, get a more then usable utility infielder (that has also played SS, 3B, and 2B regularly at one time in his career), and free up DH PAs for Napoli and Murphy. The Giants upgrade at 2B at the cost of downgrading at 5th starter.
How in the world is Zito an upgrade to the Ranger’s rotation?
Hope you mean upgrade offensively, ’cause defensively Freddy Sanchez is probably ten times better than Young.
People take home/road stats too seriously. There are a few factors… The league in general hits ~60 ops points higher at home, Young’s road games are weighted toward AL West opponents who are all in pitchers parks with traditionally strong pitching staffs, and there are some theories about home park effecting road production as well as hitters tailor their approach. Obviously Young’s had an advantage, but treating it like its just a fact that his road stats are his only legitimate stats is poor analysis, just apply a park factor to his numbers.. as various metrics that still place young as a good player do.
How many players in Texas have had big home/road splits, left and hit as their road numbers in their prime? Teixiera transitioned perfectly fine, Soriano had his worst years in Texas, most of the Rangers 90’s stars (Palmeiro/Gonzalez/Rodriguez) had representative years out of Texas out of their prime after leaving, and even some out of nowhere stories like DeRosa and Byrd continued their success the year after leaving.
What I love about all of this is that there isn’t one quote from Michael Young himself during this entire episode.
One word: Wow! The player who is the face of the Rangers, who has moved to numerous different positions wants out! Wow!
It is not like this isn’t the 1st time he asked to be traded. Asked about it when they moved his off of SS and realized that he had to back down when nobody wanted him.
This is more about his quest for 200 hits a season and 300o hits in career than about being in Texas. Young knows that if he gets know as a DH full time without the 700 AB’s he has had throughout his career his likelihood of getting the next contract diminishes significantly.
Baseball is a business. The quicker people accept that the better. Do people want to know why Young selfishly moved to SS from 2B? SS get paid a lot more than 2B and it was getting close to time for him to get a new contract. Imagine that. Would you turn down an upgraded postion at work tht pays better?
wtf? coherent sentences? Im doing about 24 things at once I could care less how my sentences come out.. i ment 9 picks in 2 years
I’m going to make a wild prediction and say the Cubs get him for either Jeff Baker or Blake Dewitt.
This would be yet another terrible call.
Why would the Cubs take on that salary when just had to trade Tom Gorzellany to stay at their budget? Also, if DJ Lemehieu has another season like last year people will be forgetting about Hak Ju Lee.
Because they didn`t trade Gorzallaney to stay under the budget, they traded him to get rid of a starter and get some decent prospects to replenish the farm system. Plus if they could make a trade getting rid of Fukudome or Silva they could clear enough payroll to aquire Young.
Plus if they decide to let Aramis go they can always slide him back over to 3rd. Another possibility is that they could trade Zambrano for Young and maybe a reliver so both teams fill a need.
That is absolutely not why Gorzellany was traded. Michael Young is not a fit for the Cubs.
The Cubs need Young to restore credibility and dump a bad contract. So I say you’re wrong.
The Cubs need Young to restore credibility? What the hell does that even mean? How would adding and aging over paid player to a group of aging over paid players restore credibility? You want clubhouse credibility? They just got their leader back for a little over $1MM dollars. The Cubs need Michael Young about as bad Soriano needs to be more aggressive at the plate.
Who’s the leader in the clubhouse on this team??? Let’s see here in the last three years we’ve experienced a Zambrano meltdown, a Bradley meltdown, lack of hustle by Aram and Soriano, a team that quit on Pinella in the last half of last season and you vehemently rebuke my statement. I think someone’s in need of reality check. Here, let me buy you a clue, dude. By the way our leader isn’t Wood–he’s not even in the clubhouse, he sits in the bullpen along left field. He’s a relief pitcher….really???? Young has been nothing but a character guy while with Texas…you acquire him possibly for that…and his offense.
You are lost. Do bull pen guys not spend time in the clubhouse? Why don’t you take a look at quotes from players after Wood was resigned. Then try to tell us all how no one reapectst him and sees him as a clubhouse leader. What’s Ryan Dempster? What’s Marlon Byrd? Michael Young is not a fit for the Cubs. Unless the Rangers took Soriano’s big fat contract (all of it), it would make zero sense for the Cubs. If they have a surplus of something it’s middle infielders that are young, cheap and have potential. I’ll also go ahead and stop you arguing Young as a third baseman. Getting rid of the guy who put up the best power numbers on the team despite having the worst year of his career would be an awful idea. Do yourself a favor. Spend that money and buy yourself a clue.
I do know this: Young’s 2.7 WAR last season is greater than anything any 2B for the Rockies has ever posted, and he would be the 3rd-best all-around position player on the team behind Tulo and CarGo.
Seems to me this is just a matter of the money that Colorado will want and the package that Texas wants in return and he’ll be a Rockie.
I wonder if this was influenced by the Orioles signing Guerrero. Either way, the Angels could really benefit from having Young, and Halo fans would love to have him.
Maybe Callaspo/Bobby Wilson/Cash for him, since the Rangers are always looking to have stability behind the plate.
we have torreabla,napoli, and treanor… i think they would want an arm if anything
Kazmir/Wilson/Young’s contract. Wilson is getting pretty good with the glove.
Christ, the Rockies need to get rid of some infielders here before taking on another one.
I’m sure any move the Rockies make for Young, would include one of those “infielders”. the problem is that of the 4 second basemen, all have question marks (Lopez, Nelson), or are looked at as bench guys (Herrera, Eric Young Jr)
Are you kidding me? Young has zero range anymore, he would be a disaster at 2B.
“Rangers president Nolan Ryan and manager Ron Washington are on record as saying that Michael Young will be with Texas on Opening Day, as Young is well-liked by the organization and will be useful in the super utility role.”
Then five days later you see “Rangers Continue To Explore Michael Young Trade”.
Nolan and Ron, learn some class. It’s fine if you want to trade Young but don’t lie to him and all the Rangers fans about it.
It looks like the Rangers were content to go into the season with him as the DH, but Michael changed his mind over the past few days and wants to be traded. Following his instruction would be classless?
Obviously not to you specifically, but fans in general have no problem mocking past their prime players being overpaid, but then also so object to being forceful to move them out of positions they simply should not be playing. MY was awful at 3rd base, he really was. Pandering to him is not the same as respect, the Rangers were perfectly willing to pay him 16 million to play the position he is most suited for, get over it people. I will always remember MY well but some of you are just unrealistic.
Now that Young says he wants out of Texas, that just opens the door for negotiations with other teams that were once on his no trade list. This should get interesting….
Ha. Maybe they should move Young to catcher. By the time his contract is up, if he stays with Texas, he might get to play every position other than pitcher.
I think the Rangers might have screwed themselves on the deal with Beltre financially. Now that word is out that Young wants to be traded, they are most likely going to lose leverage.
And, who wants a guy who makes $16 million a year in the middle infield, or even at 3rd? Not too many teams. They are going to have to eat some salary and that may hurt them in the short and long term.
But, that’s nothing new under the sun for the Rangers! 🙂
If only the Cubs could get someone like Silva or Fukudome loose to clear some payroll
Wish it could happen. Young would restore the joke team the Cubs have become over the past couple of seasons.
LOL why are rockies fans getting on their knees begging this trade won’t happen?
so you would rather have the mighty jonathan herrera start at 2B?
yeah if you go by that mentality i would cross fingers that you’ll win the wild card
I would send cook over to texas. give esmil rogers a shot. if he can’t start aquire a pitcher at the deadline and a pitcher in the rockies system will step up the following year. this offseason has shown the rockies are no longer a poor team
Hmm, defense isnt really good…If Chipper cant return in ATL, How MUCH salary could TX eat for him to come to ATL?
Fukudome and Wells. except not really.
Reading these comments it seems like a lot of the Rangers fans are pretty classless. The guy has moved all over the infield for the team, had 5 straight years of +200 hits and everyone is acting like “GTFO.” I don’t mind if you want to see a trade because I wanted to see Wells’ ridiculous contract go as a Jays fan, but that doesn’t mean I lost sight of what the player has contributed.
Well said. I’ve been a diehard Rangers fan for 20 years and been through some horrible times. Loyalty means a lot to me. I actually hope the Rangers get fleeced a la Teixeira/Braves when trading MY just so he can have the last laugh. Pretty bad move, IMO, for the Rangers.
wasn’t Well’s nickname “Boo”?
I’m not saying all Jays fans are classy, of course there are going to be haters, but I do know most of them seemed to acknowledge that he’s been a great person for the team in a number of ways. Most of us were happy to see the contract go, not necessarily the player.
We would love for him to stay, just drop about 35 of his 48 million and id LOVE young to be a ranger…. we just prefer to have the money to sign the players who are soon to be free agents
I’m a Ranger fan and I love Michael Young the player, but I hate his contract. I want them to trade Young to save as much money as possible so they can sign Hamilton and C.J. Wilson to extensions. Trading Young and eating “only” $20M means $24M for other players. When you consider Young is now 33 and likely to decline in the future and his 10/5 rights vest soon, it’s a pretty good idea to shop him.
So 1 or 2 vindictive and immature comments on a message board = “a lot of the Rangers fans are pretty classless”? A few fans on this particular message board equates to a large number of the Rangers fan base? By the same logic then, Blue Jays fans are a really uneducated and ignorant bunch of people. That is based off the fact that 4 people on a message board didn’t know that Vernon Wells grew up in Arlington, TX. Makes perfect sense, eh?
1. There are more than 1 or 2 comments
2. I was making a simple observation and attempting to get those immature people to realize what’s more important.
3. Why do people feel the need to defend their entire fanbase? Do they not realize there are idiots in every fanbase?
4. When I say “a lot” I never said a lot of the Rangers fanbase, I just said a lot. It seemed like a lot to me. Doesn’t mean the majority, doesn’t mean thousands, it just seemed like a lot to me on the comment board.
5. A lot of Blue Jays fans are actually uneducated in baseball and I don’t take personal offense to that.
I wasn’t trying to attack all Rangers fans, I just noticed “a lot” of them were overlooking the player that Michael Young has been.
Well as a knowledgeable rangers fan,
We know what kind of player he is, we know what he can do, and now that most people jumped on since our playoff run, people want wins.
Young’s contract is way to big for what he is doing. i love the guy, ive watched him since the promising times of him,blalock, and tex all playing and soon to be a stud infield when kinsler came up as well. but the point of this is we love the guy, but if moving one guy to sign the other awesome players we have means saying goodbye, he is tangible, lets do whats best for today AND tomorrow
Exactly and my original comment was not directed at people like you. I have absolutely no problem with getting rid of his contract, it’s best for the team.
junior ballbag – Would you please refrain from personally attacking other commenters? Thanks
ban him like you guys banned by other account for one stupid comment
Haha I wanna know what you said now.
Can’t remember what i said word for word; it was quite a while ago
I just remember making one offensive comment about jose bautista and how he is on something and all his band-wagoned fans came lashing out on me and next thing i know
“this site has blocked you from posting new comments”
HOW DARE YOU
Hhahah at least a mod didnt change your comment to mean exactly the opposite of what i was trying to say.
Good for Young. I hope he gets moved. It’s sad that Beltre has shut the door on teams third baseman the last two years. Sure, some will argue Lowell was hurt and wasn’t gonna be the third baseman, blah, blah. Who knows, maybe he would have played all year and not mysteriously go on the DL at the beggining of the season. It’s tough, but it’s a business. I hope Young gets moved to be an every day player somewhere he’s wanted. The Rangers front office has handled this whole thing extremely poorly. First, they’re keeping him, then they’re looking to trade him, then they’re keeping him again. Come on! Make up your mind. If you can’t appreciate Michael Young, someone else will.
Does ANYONE here honestly believe that the Yankees are going to deal with the Mariners anytime in the near future? After the stunt they pulled in July…they broke an unwritten code among GMs… Even if they were willing to trade Felix to NY for a bucket of balls and a rosin bag, the Yankees won’t even answer that GMs call. If it wasn’t for the Mariners, Lee would’ve been a Yankee last post-season, and likely remained one for the next 6.
What does this have to do with Michael Young or the Rangers..?
My thoughts exactly, but someone brought up Young to Yankees, then trading
Cano for King Felix.
I think the Dodgers are an option depending how cash strapped they are. I think that Young, Borbon, and cash for Matt Kemp with prospects here and there could happen. That said I hope they’d be smarter than to sell low on Kemp.
Dodgers aren’t trading Matt Kemp to watch him go out and have his break out season then go on and have a great career. their gonna be patient with him. they have nothing to lose on waiting for him to reach his full potential.
vernon wells 2.0, decent player getting paid double what he’s worth.
The Dodgers can trade for him and make him their starting third Baseman and move Casey Blake to Left field with Gibbons/Thames.
wowss
Jeter is still one of the better SS in the game, he just hasn’t offered any tangible reasons why he should be worth $15 mil per in each of the next 3 or 4 years.
I would not make that trade if I’m the White Sox. Young isn’t exactly wowing anyone with his OBP numbers so it’s not like he’s going to be a great table setter. If I’m them I would rather muddle thru with what I have at 3B and hope that when Peavy returns he will be the elite Peavy who can stay healthy over the next year or two until his contract expires. If the SOx can’t save any money from Peavy then why bother?
Wow. They were wanting Young to be the DH/utility guy WAY before Napoli was acquired. Is Young really that AFRAID of Napoli being on the team? Was Young planning on learning how to catch and work with pitchers too? Young was moved to SS to accommodate the addition of Alfonso Soriano with the void created by the the A-Rod trade. Kinsler came up in 2006 and was immediately better defensively than Soriano and Young at 2B. Elvis Andrus came up in 2009.,moving Young to 3B and was vastly superior to Young in defense.. Bottom line is that if Michael Young didnt suck so bad on the field, they wouldn’t have felt the need to bring in a better defensive player every time you turn around.
Jays will take him for a B prospect, and Texas eats $25 million.
looks like they will get a better offer from Col…
E. Rogers, Lopez and a Prospect for Young and cash is the stab in the dark the Rockies writer had..
I don’t think Young has a ton of value, but he does have enough to rate more than just a “B” prospect all alone.
Not really sure what all the fuss is about. Can’t really blame Young for being angry since the Rangers kept moving him around, then promptly acquiring players to play or compete for that position. Also can’t really blame the Rangers for doing what they felt was best. It’s unfortunate, but ugly situations like this happen.
In the end Michael Young wanting out just makes it easier for Texas to trade him without looking like the bad guys. Which is something they are happy to do as they were not-so-subtly pushing him out the door anyway. So with any luck, both sides will end up better off.
I understand that this is a business, but the Rangers franchise should be absolutely embarrassed for their treatment of Michael Young. Guy stuck with the team for over a decade, did everything they asked him, and never really complained about the organization.
Someone who has shown such loyalty to a franchise deserves far better treatment than this. Good luck to Young, wherever he ends up.
Can i ask what you would do if you had a better player to play his position? you just play young and not play the better player?
we wanted him to DH/utility he is the one who isnt happy with that so we are gunna move him.
Like Ron Washington says…”That’s how baseball go.” MY has been the epitome of the Rangers but his time has passed. Nolan has said all along that you have to keep an eye of the present with the other on the future. Moving MY allows the Rangers more flexibility to stay competitive for the long run. It would be a positive for both sides if MY were to get traded.
The top five teams that I can see the Rangers trading MY to are: Colorado, San Francisco, Toronto, LAA, or Chicago White Sox. They will more than likely have to throw some money in to sweeten the deal but should get a nice player in return. I would not be suprised if it were A ball player that has a high ceiling. Jon Daniels has taken on these trades before. This is how we landed Neftali Feliz and Elvis Andrus in the Tex trade to Atlanta.
MY…thank you for your service with the Rangers. You were rewarded with a trip to the World Series. Baseball is a business and the Rangers are now in to it to win a title….thank you to the new ownership group.
agreed he is going to be known as a ranger great, and i hope he will retire as one, but we need that salary moved, and unless he wants to cut about 35 of his 48 million to play in texas i cant see it happening for us
Some business ethics they have then. They shouldn’t of told him he was planning on being with and having a main role with the team when that was clearly untrue. I’d be furious and demand a trade to the Angels so I could reek havoc and push for a division title.
He still is going to be the primary DH and get to play the field a day or so a week…
he was a part, he wants to be a starter on the field, and right now there isnt anywhere on the field he helps us right now…. Kinsler/Andrus/beltre all have better gloves, and i think Moreland will breakout this year.
offensively he is an upgrade at 2nd no matter what, yes he is not the best defender but he is solid enough where he wont cost you a game…add him to the line up they have for lopez and EYJ its a good deal and if they chip in half of his deal its good for both teams…NL hitting should make young even better and hitting in coors for half the year should make him even better
no way the sox give up on peavy yet….young would be nice #2 for the sox but alexi ramirez is even better and he is already under contract..
yeah he just sat there as they brought in better players every single time…moved because of arod, moved because of andruws, moved because of beltre and now is complaining about napoli(who is a better power hitter) yep stand up guy…he wanted a trade last season but that didnt happen……yep stand up guy
again not going to happen..the sox wont give up on peavy yet he is the center piece of the sox rotation for the next few years….yes young would be nice but not for peavy maybe buehrle and a prospect but not peavy….and morell is slated to start 3rd and his D is worth it with the addition of dunn to deal with the “lack” of offense at 3rd
AND peavy in that hitters haven would not be good for the team which is why i said buehrle a ground ball pitcher would make more sense not a fly ball strike out pitcher like peavy
If Michael Young were in New York he would be an icon. Why DOES Texas hate him?
His last 5 years bat stats compare with Jeters. 30 less hits, 13 more homers, 66 more rbi, 11 pts less BA, 30 pct pts less OBP. He’s proved he’s a team guy and probably has an outside shot at 3000 hits. He should have many suitors. A big contract yes, but he earned that and no one put a gun to Texas head to offer it and sign it.
Just thought and I sure it will get shot down quickly, but I thought I would throw it out there. What about Detroit? Give the Rangers Brandon Inge or Carlos Guillen, preferably Carlos Guillen because his contract would balance Young’s for atleast this year. Plus, the Rangers may be intrigued because either of the players contracts would come off the books after this year. Detroit would probably have to throw in a pitching prospect, but not one of their 1 or 2 top-rated prospects, i.e., Oliver or Turner.
The Tigers can’t trade Inge until sometime in June because he just signed a contract. Guillen can’t be traded until he comes off the DL. I think Michael Young would be a good player for the Tigers though.
It won’t happen, but I’d love to see Josh Outman and Fuentes to the Rangers for Michael Young and salary relief.
Michael Young to the Braves straight up for Derek Lowe makes too much sense for both teams
Tigers need to trade for this guy, with him at 2nd/batting second, they could have the best 2-3-4-5 in all of baseball. And his defense would be an upgrade over Sizemore/Guillen/Rhymes/Worth/Santiago or whomever else they put at second.
Sizemore is considered one of the top contact hitting prospects and better defense at a fraction of the cost than young. Young has put up those numbers in Texas’ hitter friendly park. He would hit for a good average like always at Comerica but lack the power that Arlington gives him and the last thing Detroit needs is more overpayed aging players.
I don’t understand how this trade makes sense for the Rockies. They have one of the top power hitting up-and-comers at 3b with Ian Stewart, one of the fastest 2nd base prospects in EYJ, and just signed Ty Wigginton who can play 2b and 3b. They still have to pay Ubaldo long-term. Doesn’t make much sense to me.
I’m intrigued by the Angels making a play for Michael Young. Not that it is a smart move for them, I just wouldn’t put it past Reagins. The Halos could use an “upgrade” at 3B. So would a Bobby Abreu for Young swap be a possibility? If I were Reagins I wouldn’t want Abreu to get his ABs for his ’12 option to vest. That may get tricky or ugly preventing though. Other pieces and obviously some cash would need to be involved in this…but? Why not? It is the Angels after all.
Ty Wigginton is horrible at fielding 2b and EYJ probably cant hit. Of course, MY would probably be quite bad at fielding 2b too.. but theres no reason they shouldn’t be looking for someone anyway.
woops, obviously this comment was meant to be a reply to hoosier below.
then they should move Stewart to 2b and play Wigginton at 3b. My point is, a move like this would only impede their financial flexibility for not that great of an upgrade