It's the end of a three-month wait for the Yankees and a 16-year career for Andy Pettitte. The left-hander is set to announce his retirement tomorrow, the team announced.
The Yankees waited all winter for Pettitte and would have welcomed him back for a 14th season in pinstripes. Instead, the 38-year-old will call it a career and the Yankees will turn to the likes of Bartolo Colon, Freddy Garcia, Ivan Nova, Andrew Brackman and Sergio Mitre to fill out their rotation.
Pettitte won five World Championships with the Yankees and made three All-Star teams in a career that began with a relief appearance against the Royals in April of 1995. Pettitte retires with 240 regular season wins, a 3.88 ERA (117 ERA+) and 2251 strikeouts.
His teams made the postseason in all but three of his big league seasons, so Pettitte has lots of experience in October; he has 19 wins and a 3.83 ERA in the playoffs. Pettitte is the all-time winningest pitcher in postseason history, ranks first all-time in postseason starts and innings pitched and is tied for second with 173 strikeouts.
Pettitte becomes the second high-profile left-hander to turn down millions of dollars from the Yankees this offseason. Cliff Lee, the Yankees' top offseason target, turned down more guaranteed money from New York to return to Philadelphia.
Michael Kay of 1050 ESPN radio in New York first reported the news (on Twitter).
oh boy, NYY crunch time now. I must say he had a heck of a career considering the PEI involvement stuff he seemed to stay mostly above the fray
I didn’t know he was involved with Prince Edward Island.
sorry had a SCTV flashback there, “Magnum, P.E.I.”
Damn, you were all over that one.
All over it like the Yankees on aging fifth starters
I had to lol at the one, clever
7 days with out PEI equals one weak…spleen, liver, pituitary gland…
Thank the lord.
-The rest of the A.L. East
He’s always been a class act and one of my favorite Yanks ever. I think the whole Yankee family will be sad to see him retire.
A class act who cheated at baseball? Nice standards Osc. I’m glad to see the cheating yankee go. Good riddance.
You must dislike an awful lot of baseball players
Or maybe he just loves the game and wants to see it played the right way….
I’m going to go with this reply. Thanks flickadave.
I want to see it played the right way too. But he played in an era when steroid use was absolutely pervasive in the sport. He did steroids and admitted it. To me that’s a hell of a lot more classy than those who sat on the hands, not to mention all those who denied it.
He admitted it after he got caught. There is nothing classy about what he did.
And we will never know if what he admitted to was ALL that he did. Will we?
True, but then again, you can say that about any player in this era can’t you?
Any player that has admitted to HGH use, yes.
Fair enough, but I’d say we can’t really pass judgment one way or the other because we have no idea how sincere he really was in his apology. It’s also classier than the way other’s handled similar situations
People can’t man up for their mistakes and apologize and move on?
They can, even though he didn’t man up about anything. Just don’t try to pass it off as being classy. I will give him credit for being smarter than the other roiders and spinning it in a way that made him seem like a team player.
I must have missed the handout describing what “the right way” is. Does “the right way” not include multi-vitamins and supplements because they didn’t exist in 1896? Damn all those helmet wearing pansies, they don’t play the right way!
they did have miracle elixers and tonics some of which contained cocaine and all kinds of uppers and vitamins , so it stands to reason that atleast some of baseball players tried or used them on regular bases . I dont really know and have no proof but just a thought
He didn’t use steriods, he used HGH.
HGH is produced by your body, and steroids people normally get from bullshark to get bigger size.
You guys know nothing and still keeep on talking.
Hey, didn’t I see you on the BALCO hearings? Does it really matter what he took? He still cheated the game.
“Does it really matter what he took?” what a stupid question, of course it matter what he took.
You have absolutely no clue what your talking about, all that matters to you is that he is a yankee and he must be hated.
i could understand your point if he took steroids and was lighting up the radar gun, but since 2002 andy’s fastball has never toched 90 mph on average.
Guys that take steroids normally hit more HRs or light up the radar gun, andy did neither
Does it matter what he took? No it doesn’t. He cheated the game. He took HGH to heal faster so that he could get back to pitching sooner. That is just what he admitted to doing because he got caught. What else did he do that we don’t know about?
One of the reasons that it matters is because, by taking HGH to heal faster, he gave his team an unfair advantage over a team with players that didn’t use PEDs. That’s bad for the game. It would be like letting one team use corked bats.
Another reason that it matters, and I hope Pettitte finds this out in 5 years, is because a lot of the allure to many baseball fans are the statistics players produce. You see it on MLBTR all the constantly. People decide who is the better player or who a team should acquire (and how much said player should be paid) by what stats a guy puts up. Both HGH and steroids skew those numbers. That’s really bad for the game in a multitude of ways. How do you decide who deserves to be in the HoF if their numbers weren’t comparable to players that went before them? It doesn’t matter if Andy was lighting up the radar gun or not. He was able to play in games that he shouldn’t have been playing in because he used HGH (and who knows what else).
Yes, Pettitte was a Yankee and therefore he had to be hated BUT, as Yankees go, he was one of the more likable ones. I’m just as disappointed at Papi (and probably Manny) using PEDs as I am at Pettitte. In my opinion, Selig should have banned all players caught using PEDs for life. Pete Rose is banned for life because his bets might have influenced a handful of games. All of the PED users have influenced the outcomes of, probably, the vast majority of games. After a while, you might as well go watch professional wrestling.
Where would you draw the line? Sounds like you would be OK with all the players juicing and let the best chemist win. Or is it just all the Yankees that can juice with impunity? Seems like all that matters to you is that he was a Yankee and, therefore, he could do no wrong. You really think that that is good for the game?
to me using a drug to heal faster and get back into the game is not a bad thing, he was upfront about that. What would you do if you were in his situation? besides he did that in Houston so technically it doesn’t make the Yankees cheaters it makes the Astros
to me he was the first one to come up with that excuse.
That’s exactly why Bonds, McGwire etc used drugs. They lifted weights which made tiny tears in their muscle fibers and used drugs to heal those muscles faster.
that’s not even close to the same thing. Pettitte was legitimately hurt, those guys were healthy
The justification of why they did it makes little difference. They all did it, whether it helped them heal or helped prevent them from injury, it makes no difference
if you dont think pettitte has class your foolish. yeah he used hgh, but he gave the most sincere apology possible. he called himself an embarrassment and if thats not class then your out of your mind.
That isn’t true at all. I believe his exact quote was “If I did anything wrong, I am sorry.”
I love that response. It’s what I give my girlfriend when she doesn’t like my tone.
It probably goes over just as well in regards to PED accusations as it does with her, too.
Just out of curiosity, what team do you root for? Because I can list a bunch of players on any team that probably used PEDs. Of course you probably wont respond, like the Yankee hating troll that you are.
I’m curious. Name “a bunch of” Royals and Pirates players that probably used HGH. Of course you probably won’t respond, like the PED enabler that you are.
Barry Bonds was a Pittsburgh Pirate wasn’t he? Oh.
ya when he was skinny
Josias Manzanillo, Tim Laker, Hal Morris (’99), Jason Grimsley, Denny Neagle, Jason Christiansen, Brendan Donnelly, Jeremy Giambi. The Mitchell Report had players on it from the lowest to the highest. As much as I cheered Andy Pettitte on, he will suffer the same fate as Mark McGwire.
OK, I don’t think that any of the players that you listed should even be on the HoF ballot then. Fair?
You don’t think Jeremy Giambi is a HoF’er? Just kidding, you made a fair point….you asked for a bunch of Royals / Pirates on the list. Quality is another thing….
You left out Willie Stargell
I can name a bunch of Royals and Pirates that probably SHOULD’VE used PEDs.
But come to think of it… that George Brett blow up after he was called out in the “pine tar” game seemed somewhat reminiscent of “roid rage.”
I am a Red Sox fan. And Yes, we had two major players that contributed to our two rings. And yes, I immediately wanted them off the team. And yes, Petitte was a great pitcher. And yes, I hate the yankees. BUT. More importantly than all of that, I LOVE BASEBALL. And it’s not fair to the memories and legacies of players like Ruth, Aaron, Speaker, Cobb, and Maris to let these guys off with “Oh, he apologized so nicely.” He cheated baseball. End of story.
Babe Ruth injected himself with sheep testosterone. Mike Schmidt used Amphetamines. Willie Mays too. And Hank Aaron. And Willie Stargell. Mickey Mantle is a suspected PED user as well. Pud Galvin used PED’s as a player before the 20th century.
Whitey Ford used to doctor the baseball. Gaylord Perry too.
Jimi Hendrix did purple haze, Bob Marley smoked weed and Eric Clapton tributes Cocaine…and I tell my best stories when I’m drunk. Who cares..appreciate it for what it is. 🙂
so its ok for Hank Aaron to cheat, and yes he even admitted to it, but when Barry Bonds supposedly does it he is the worst human being known to man. GREAT!
lol purple haze is weed lmao its a strain(f)
So what team do you like? Your just someone who hates the Yankees. Andy Pettitte was a great pitcher.
Certainly an above average pitcher, but not a great pitcher.
Well said. Definatly not a HOF’er
Well, Steve Neither are you. I’d vote for him.
good one.. are you rubber and him glue?
He was a very good pitcher, and I loved him as a player. Unfortunately, the only way to let him in IMO is by pointing out other pitchers who I think also don’t belong. That seems contradictory so I won’t do it.
All criticism of the Yankees can be explained away by saying “Your just someone who hates the Yankees” but if that doesn’t work immediately mention the 27 rings and all is well.
“If you aint cheatin, you aint tryin”
I think that originated in baseball! Players and managers have been cheating for 100 years. Its part of the game, sometimes you get caught, sometimes you dont. You can find tons of guys in the hall who cheated some way or another. Ty Cobb sharpened is spikes, at least Pettitte was trying to hurt anyone, just trying to heal himself.
By no means am I saying its ok, but if you dont like cheating you need another sport!
I bet if I asked any Red Sox fan if Big Papi is a class act, they will say yes. If you are a Red Sox fan or if there are Red Sox fans who agree with you when you say Pettitte has No Class for cheating, then that should disqualify Papi as being a class act.
Has anyone even argued that cheaters can’t have class? Like Notsuresrs said earlier in the thread, “classiest most honorable cheat ever”. Sums it up pretty well I think.
“rushforpresident [Moderator] 6 hours ago in reply to Osc S.
A class act who cheated at baseball? Nice standards Osc. I’m glad to see the cheating yankee go. Good riddance.
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Kid everyone has HGH naturally in their body, the guy used it to recover from an injury which it would deff speed up the processs. It’s not like andy was pumping 95 mph fastballs.
Did you know that Andy Pettitte cheated to maintain a 4.50 ERA?
most overrated pitcher of all time
A class act that left his team out to dry with his indecisiveness. He could have made the same decision two months ago and they could have filled his slot with a lot more options.
like who? The only guys that could improve the staff were Pettite and lee. Cliff decided to take more money and Andy retired. Who’d you want that got signed since Cliff did?
He did it to recover from an elbow injury.. Cut him some slack. It would seem his reason to use peds was to get back to 100%. Not 100% healthy plus peds.
Regards
Hats off to Andy. He was a great pitcher that I always feared facing when he played the Red Sox. Congrats on a great career.
So what position did you play?
Hoffman, Wagner*, and now Pettitte. Good luck everyone else on the ballot…
What’s with the asterisk? Just curious…
Was gunna put a footnote, got tired. It’s been one of those days.
*not yet officially retired
If McGwire doesn’t get in, Pettitte shouldn’t get in.
u wanna call pettitte a cheater, fine thats ur opinion… but dnt compare him to bonds, mcgwire, and clemens… its 1 thing to use hgh its another to make a mockery of mlb and a circus of the media as those 3 have… its not a fair comparison
One could also say…where would Baseball be without those three…especially McGwire in his prime. He put people back in the seats when baseball needed something to help revive the game. Just playing devils advocate by the way.
The only reason it’s a “circus” with those guys is because they were legit, transcendent stars who broke or set records. If Andy Pettitte had been anything better than an ok #2 starter throughout his career and then been found “cheating,” it would be a circus too.
Pettitte isn’t to begin with. And if McGwire doesn’t, Manny and A-Rod and the others shouldn’t
By the way, not sure if you heard after Henderson got elected, Canseco mentioned baseball is going to have a real problem when they find out they have a HOFer who used steroids. This was approximately right after Henderson got elected. Somebody mentioned though, although I can’t find a source or anything, that Canseco had said he believed Rickey was clean.
So let me ask you this, if he reveals what player it is, and if that player admits his guilt (although I doubt it). Do you think they should remove his plaque from the HOF? Is it fair to keep that player in and not elect the others. I don’t think it’s right to elect some and not elect others.
I totally think that if they are keeping players out of the HoF because of steroid use and a player that is in now admits that he was a user then they should take him out of the HoF. Remember, I’m the guy that thinks there should be a ballot every year to vote people OUT of the HoF. That would make it more relevant than the “Hall of Very, Very Good” that it is becoming. The Baseball Hall of Fame won the 2010 museum Gold Glove didn’t it?
I already know my top 3 I’d vote off in that case
1- Phil Rizzuto
2- Bill Mazerowski
3- Jim Rice
That would make for an interesting thread wouldn’t it?
THERE ARE PLAYERS IN THE HALL NOW WHO ARE ADMITTED PED USERS!
As Michael Kay would say….SEE YA!!!
As a White Sox fan, I shouldn’t be talking about bad announcers, but I hate Michael Kay.
oh god I hate your guy! I’m sorry, but wow he is disgustingly terrible. He could probably have the worst calls ever and I hate John Sterling.
Imagine Sterling and Hawk as a team? GOODNESS GRACIOUS!
NOOOOoooooOOOOOOOOooooo
I couldn’t be a CWS fan with that commentary. I mean, my Mets are feeling hard times but at least I can listen to Gary Keith and Ron
I’d rather have your guys… We (Phillies fans) went from Harry Kalas to Tom McCarthy and Chris Wheeler.
Rip HARRY
Ron Darling is tough to listen too but the rest are alright
Wow I can’t believe a Phillies fan is saying “I’d rather have your guys” to a Mets fan haha.
Ron is horrible. Keith always seems drunk when he speaks. Gary is decent though. But I cannot stand Ron Darling.
PUT IT ON THE BOOOOOOOAAAARD…YES!!!!
As a Twins fan, even I have to admit it’s a pretty cool line they have with that.
Hawk is a bum
I can’t believe he was nominated for the Ford Frick award a few years ago.
“HE GONE” as the Hawk would say…
I like Sterling and Kay. Screw you guys, I’m going home.
grab some bench
DON’T STOP NOW BOYS!
bad announcer yes. But his talk show is really good, he is a completely different guy on the radio. Probably because the Yankees limit his speech.
He gone!!!
EVERY SINGLE STRIKEOUT
I know…annoying. How did he get that job?
Checkmate, New York.
aside from boston tell me one team in the AL better then the yankees
Phillies
sorry bud, i meant in the AL.
rangers – tigers – rays – jays had a winning record against the yanks last year and have better pitching – a’s are on their heels – wsox – angels…
Angels? You lose
vernon makes them WS favourites! haha
Typically 3rd place teams in the AL West don’t make it to the WS.
ask the giants how they fared the year following a 3rd place showing in the NL west…
This post is as correct as the phrase “the Red Sox could have won those championships without Ortiz and Manny on steroids”
take it your a yanks fan… need to loose the rose coloured glasses…
lose*
Maybe he thought they were on too tight.
thats what you get when blogging at work and looking over your shoulder… oops. thx
I disagree with the Rangers. Their line up may be better but their rotation is just as bad if not worse and the Yankees have a better bullpen. Otherwise besides the angels i agree with your list.
so your saying that the yankees are the number 2 team in baseball behind boston, i think there are a great many teams that would beg to differ considering both teams have serious pitching issues…
Just my thoughts, but the Red Sox don’t really have “serious” pitching problems. Lester and Bucholz were Cy Young contenders last year and Beckett will be healthy this year. Lackey is a better pitcher than he showed last year. Dice-K is an average pitcher at best though.
The Yankees do not have serious pitching problems either. Sabathia is one of the best pitchers in baseball, Phil Hughes is only getting better and (like Lackey) Burnett will have a better year this year. Nova showed he can do fine in the majors last year and and he will do fine this year and continue to grow. Their #5, whoever they choose will be fine for them if they can win 8-10 games.
In short, I would take either of these rotations over most of what other teams have.
A’s Rangers Twin’s White Sox possibly Tigers, Angels.
lulz
no, no, no, no, no, no… ur done thank god… none of those teams r even close… the A’s have no offense watsoever… rangers lost their best player in cliff lee nd vlad who had an amazing year, twins have joe mauer nd morneau nd thats the extent of their team, white sox and tigers thats just laughable, and the angels do they even have a contending team anymore??? they might finish 3rd in the weak west… bryan says the yanks have pitching problems, name 1 team other than philly or boston that has a better #3 starter than phil hughes….
vinnieg there are none, ppl just dont know wat they r talkin bout
I would argue, but your name is “TheSituation.” Thus, making your argument invalid.
The Giants didn’t have much offense either and look what they did last year, Yankees lost their best pitcher in Andy Pettitte, Joe Mauer plays a premium position, Yankees are laughable now too, and do the Yankees even have a contending team anymore? The weak west sent they’re best team to the WS last year, after dominating the mighty east teams of the Rays and Yankees. If Phil Hughes is your number3 starter whos the #2 starter? And I’ll name a team. The Rangers with Colby Lewis.
“The Giants didn’t have much offense either and [overachieved, were lucky, and got game changing calls]”
I fixed it for it you. (But I’m just a jealous Braves fan who wished we had three more runs in us) 😉
never thought I’d agree with a Braves fan but I’m going to here!
Again though I disagree with the sentiment that the Rangers are better. Their rotation has just as many questions as the Yankees and their bullpen is considerably weaker.
hey completely dominated the Rangers and easily handled the Phillies. You can say they were lucky all you want, the truth is the Giants won over 90 games and had a team built for the playoffs. As much as the media likes to pretend that the Giants lucked into the playoffs it wasn’t really that way. The Giants were one of the hottest teams in the second half.
Tyler, what sport are you watching? Pettitte their best pitcher? I am sure CC has something to say about that. I think NY will be fine and they’ll compete. I think it;s funny that about a year ago everyone was jumping on the Mariner band-wagon during the off season and look what happened to them. Needless to say I predicted it (although not on this board). I am predicting it here: NY will win the division.
Andy Pettitte was their best pitcher? I think there’s a big brown bear that would have something to say about that.
this isn’t twitter you can spell words properly
A’s? Rangers? Twins? your out of your mind. None of these teams are better than the yankees.
There may not be a team that is better, but I’d say there are a lot of teams that are close. Rays, White Sox, Twins, Tigers, etc.
Technically, the Rangers are the only team that can claim they are better than the Yankee’s in the AL at this very moment. Let’s chat about Boston in September.
yeah ill give you that. Now they dont have Lee so I am confident to say they are the number 2 team. But as we all know predictions are not credible
Rangers
heck of a career, heck of a post-season force, enjoy retirement
To bad he lost his last post season game again who? The Rangers baybee!
stay classy texas
You’re right, I apologize.
You are right – it’s not classy – but to be honest it also happens to be the kind of thing MANY Yanks fans run around saying to fans of other teams — and on a regular basis. I just got a dose of it last week when I casually mentioned a different baseball team I like. The bragging and jeers began before I could finish my sentence. So just a little perspective….
Amen!
Luckily for me I am a Red Sox fan
**cafe applause finger snaps**
He has more post season wins than the Rangers organization.
Post-season force….that’s going to be the fallacy on the likes of Jim “most feared hitter of his generation” Rice when Pettitte’s time comes and the writers have to try to justify voting for a guy who has no business in the hall. His post-season numbers are nearly identical to his regular-season numbers. Obviously the quality of post-season opponents is a bit higher, but his number in the playoffs still scream #2-3 starter. He only has the most wins because he’s made 42 starts for the team that has had consistently one of the best lineups in baseball.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Now we’ll have to start speculating Brett Farve’s future on MLBTR.
Thanks Andy! You will be missed.
I think game 5 of 1996 World Series was your best after loosing game 1. Thanks again!
Zambrano or Dempster for Joba – cubs get salary relief and nice solid BP ( Marshall, Joba, Wood, Marmol ). Yanks get starter they need.
It would cost a lot more to get either of those guys. And I don’t like the cubs or yanks and know this.
LOL at the insanity of this trade. Even Hendry isn’t that dumb.
dempster wont happen. But I dont think it would take alot to get big z at all. Chicago hates that contract, and hates his attitude. Im not Hendry or Cashman but I can almost guarantee they would accept a Nova, Phelps, or Noesi for big Z trade. Its just a matter if zambrano wants to go to NY.
Ya, but they wouldn’t just straight up take Joba. You also got to remember that they trained away Gorzo, and acquired Garza so it seems they are wanting to try and win this year.
Joba is incredibly overrated, injury prone, and a poor character. Dempster and Z both have no trade clauses.
Injury prone? He hurt is back once. I will agree hs is overrrated and has a poor character taste. But hey, so does Zambrano
I think you might have missed the Cashman press conference where he said that Joba wouldn’t be a starter because he hasn’t been the same since he injured himself in a game in Texas. I still don’t know if that makes him any more “injury prone” than the next guy but he hasn’t just hurt his back once.
Overrated? Or underrated (lifetime 3.77 FIP in 373 IP w/ a career 9 K/9, yeah horrible).
Injury prone? One 15 day DL stint since 2007.
Bad charachter? Based on what? No DUI’s, no mention of a clubhouse cancer, never involved in any off fieldfights or media blow ups.
Great insight.
didn’t he get caught for DUI?
You know what? My bad. You are right. He had one a couple of years ago. I stand corrected. Makes him stupid but not really and indictment on his charachetr. I wouldsay though had anyone been hurt then he would deserve to pay the consequences unlike Leyritz.
“Bad character” he says about Joba. Meanwhile Carlos Zambrano is supposed to be included in the conversation.
oh no you didn’t!
Ouch….. $20 buck says the yanks swing a deal for a starter in the next 2 weeks….
Brett Gardner, we hardly knew ye.
It would be awfully stupid to trade Gardner unless he is in a package deal for Felix or something.
Yeah, like Gardiner, Hughes, Montero and Cano!
Why do people even mention Felix’s name in trades?
Because Jon Heyman had nothing to write about after the Yanks missed out on Lee, so he looked for a bad team with a great pitcher and said “Hey, the Yankees could ask about him” and all of a sudden people are speculating on Felix trade rumours. Nevermind that Felix is under control for the next 4 years and the Mariners have the endless cash flow that is the Nintendo war chest.
lol I’m baffled by that statement.. Is it sarcasm or idiocy? I cannot tell
It’s gonna cost them. Every team now knows the Yankees are desperate. Dumping Joba for a starter won’t get it done.
Looks to be a potentially rough season for the Yankees without a legitimate no. 2-3 guy on the roster. I mean, yeah, Phil Hughes could be that guy, or Burnett could return to form…but that’s being a little optimistic isn’t it? I think they’re in trouble.
🙁
Intercom: Attention! All hands on deck! All hands on deck! The USS Steinbrenner has been critically damaged!
Rear Admiral Jeter: Don’t worry, we can still make this season work. My gold glove defensive abilities shall see us through.
Lieutenant Rodriguez: I can carry us through with my offensive power!
Ensign Sabbathia: I can has cheezburger?
Fleet Admiral Cashman: Pfft. Pettitte? He never figured into our plans. It was a bluff all along. Just like us wanting to sign Cliff Lee. No big deal, we knew this would happen. Why do you think I signed Freddy Garcia?
Ensign Swisher: I still get to play right? Hey, are you guys listening to me? I’m a good player too! Guys? GUYS?! *says to self* nobody ever loves me…
—-
While I wouldn’t say they’re beyond repair for this season, losing Pettitte now too does hurt a significant bit. They could still very well win the division, or at least get the wild card. If they make the playoffs, I think they get to ALDS at best. They better start looking for a better pitching staff.
Good luck Yankee fans!
what gold glove defense?
That would be the joke.
Ya I know, I think its completely stupid he got it.
Finally, baseball’s Brett Favre retires. Hopefully this is for good.
The only way you can say that Andy is Brett Favre, is if he pitches another game again. There is a difference between being undecisive about retiring, and retiring and coming back not once, not twice, but THREE times.
Andy spent his off-time sexting women? News to me! :p
Wasn’t that Clemens?
Andy you will be missed. Selfishly I wanted him to return, but if he doesn’t want to pitch anymore then I’ll say congratulations on a great career. A class act who gets to retire on his own terms. Though his Hall of Fame credentials are marginal if not debatable I do hope the yanks retire his number due to his great contributions to the team, and his involvement on evry one of the yankees world series since 1996.
Big time Red Sox fan here, and Andy Pettitte was one Yankee I could never hate. Seemed to always beat us too, glad he’s retiring and putting the Yankees in a tough spot! He normally went about his business not ruffling too many feathers, and he fessed up amongst the HGH allegations. Much respect for the guy.
Same here! Pettitte was a clutch pitcher and class act! Big blow for the Yanks!
“Pettitte was a clutch pitcher and class act!”
Of all people, I can’t believe you said this
If he announced he was coming back he would have went the “overrated, old steroid user, Jose iglesias best prospect ever” route
The Stalker Returns!
Why? I don’t like the Yankees but I’ve always respected the hell out of players like Jeter, Mariano, etc!(Arod, not so much) I have way more problems with the idiots who make ignorant comments about the Sox than fans of NY!
Good for Andy. Yet another blow to the Evil Empire.
Its good to see Pettitte go out on top after a good year, although the Yanks chances are not good without him. Not too many people would turn down 15 million. Now we will see what Garcia, Colon, and Prior can do along with Brackman, Noesi, and Phelps. The Sox seem to be the clear cut favorite now!
Yeah because Beckett, Lackey and Dice-K are so sharp…
Much sharper than Burnett, Nova, and Mitre.
LOL.. you’re grasping at straws now Century.. There is not a Yankee fan on the planet who wouldn’t trade rotatiosn with the Sox right now..
I’ll take the Yankees current rotation and stacked farm of arms. Next year it will be the other way around when Becket and Lackey are both useless Dice-K is gone and the Sox are left with a similar conundrum.
then sox and yanks will need to worry about the jays. they are slowly assembling a team comparable to the mid 80’s to early 90’s… ahh once upon a time when we were the cream of the crop….
AGonz and Carl Crawford can both pitch
You are right…. they didn’t look sharp. But perspective is really something…. Lackey and Dice-K had better stats than Hughes the last 20+ starts of the season. And Hughes is the next coming of the Rocket.
Who said Hughes was like Clemens?
Last I heard from Red Sox fans a couple of years ago, Paps was the next Mo. And Lars Anderson was expected to be the next Albert Pujols.
Lackey and Dice-K are supposed to be in the “prime” of their careers and are making big bucks. Hughes is 24 years old and is expected to see some growing pains in his 1st full season of starting. Who is the better investment for the future?
Sure Hughes is a good investment and should be very good but hes on par with Buchholz.. To write off Beckett and Lackey is absurd, particularly when you are rocking AJ Burnett, Ivan Nova and SERGIO MITRE in your rotation!!!
To say Boston will be in the same boat as NY next year is just flat out ignorant
Not once did I say the Red Sox rotation is worse than the Yankees. My only point was that they have question marks beyond the first two spots of the rotation (Lester and Buchholz), much like the Yankees beyond CC and Hughes.
Almost every team outside of Philadelphia has question marks in their rotation. Some guys will bounce back, some guys will get hurt, and some guys will struggle. What I find absurd is how Red Sox fans are writing off the Yankees as done when all they have lost is Andy Pettitte from last year’s team that went to the ALCS. You would think that your fan base would be among the first to recognize that anything can happen, and just because you have the best team on paper, that doesn’t guarantee anything.Did anyone predict the Red Sox would have such an injury plagued 2010 that they would miss the playoffs completely? Of course not. So stop acting like a bunch of Ms. Cleos and let’s check back with each other in October.
Theo’s next move – Deciding what type of champagne to have this year.
I’d prefer if his next move was going down to Fort Myers, but maybe that’s just me.
Champagne doesn’t taste as good when its premature.
Premature Champagnation, or PC, affects dozens of GMs every year. Don’t be afraid to ask your doctor for help.
I think Ruben Amaro Jr. gets first pick.
I like that deal, the Yanks will be in the hunt for another pitcher now.
One of the few Yankees, I kinda liked. However I really hated facing him. Well, I think Yankees best chance is Nova and Garcia, give Brackman a month in AAA to take Garcia’s job, what I would do anyway.
Is Brackman really MLB ready?
Doesn’t appear to be.
He was a draft pick out of college that had immediate Tommy John surgery. Usually college players rise through the minors quickly, but he needed an extra 2 seasons to recover from the surgery and return to full strength. His output in AA last year showed signs that he is returning to form. So if that’s the case, it wouldn’t surprise me to see him start the year in AAA but then get a quick call up after showing early success.
Doesnt look good they better swing a deal somewhere……….A guy named Sergio Mitre sounds like a commercial for a pair of jeans, wouldnt want him in my rotation. Hopefully a guy like fausto carmona could be had !!!
I am so happy right now, can’t believe he’s finally hanging them up. Congrats Andy, you certainly earned it.
I gotta admit. The Scranton Yankees are SICK this year. Colon – Prior – Garcia as your top 3. Dude. They’re gonna be lights out. Easily the favorites to win the AAA championship.
0928? Hey…that’s MY birthday! and I’m a sox fan! Are you stealing my identity?
No. that’s my birthday. Quit trying to act like me. Creeper. 😀
Hello twin.
get a room
With my twin?! TABOO
They’ve won 5 AAA titles in a row. Didn’t need the ringers.
That team has been missing something since the departure of AAAA stud Shelley Duncan.
Andy Pettitte…Great career and a class act! Speaking for many fans of baseball, I’m sad to see him retire, because he was a very good pitcher for so many years. Plus, he had one of the best pick-off moves I’ve ever seen. Best of luck to you, Andy!!
There are going to be a lot of you Red Sox fans in a few months with serious “foot in mouth syndrome” I see it coming..
Last I checked the Red Sox lost last year. No playoffs. Yankee’s are still the team to beat. Until then I wouldn’t be popping any corks.
Last time I checked, the Sox got better this offseason.
What’d the Yankees do again? Oh, Soriano. Nice, you’ll be good for 65 innings this year.
Last time I checked the Sox HAD to get better because they came in 3rd place in their division.
The Sox got better with health.
Then they signed Crawford, Gonzo, Jenks, and Wheeler.
But no, don’t worry. The Yanks got Turpen from the Sox in the Rule 5 draft. Damn. Back on top are the Yankees.
Usually when you have more holes to fill and miss the playoffs, you tend to add more players during the offseason. Seems logical to me.
Good job ignoring the whole “health” thing that is really the main reason the Red Sox missed the post-season. Take a peek at games played by Ellsbury, Pedroia and Youkilis (their opening day 1-2-4 hitters) and Mike Cameron, their starting CF.
Every team has injuries throughout the season. Obviously the Red Sox had more injuries than most. But even with a healthy squad, nothing is guaranteed. We can play the “what if” game until we are blue in the face. In the end, all that matters is where you are in the standings after 162 games are played. Anyone who cries about injuries when its a reality that everyone else has to deal with is just a crybaby.
and IF the yanks lost Cano for a period of time they would not have won ale.. so ya one can play the if games but we all can agree that Pedroia and Youk are huge to their success… but if it helps, sox and yanks will be blue in the face in a couple of years when they realize just how strong Jays and Rays will be…. That being said there is no way yanks repeat with the rotation they have, they need to sign/trade for a legit starter…
And I can pretty much guarantee that the Yanks WILL trade for another starter between now and July 31st. The only thing that will stop them is if they find a prospect from the minors who is ready to surprise people and make the jump this year.
Looks like someone wasn’t watching very carefully last year.
Wheeler and better should never really be linked together…As a Rays fan, I celebrated his signing with Boston… 🙂
Word bro…
so i guess next year we will see the Yankees make more moves because they sure as hell have holes… not to mention some aging players
Let them play! Let them play!
Last time I checked, the Rays won the AL East in 2010. I believe that makes THEM the team to beat.
“Pettitte to retire. Yankees to blame the Rangers.”
-Jamey Newberg
More like, “Source: Rangers take credit for Pettitte’s retirement”
This just in from Levine: “Am I going to have to start dreaming about my wife now”
Also, Steinbrenner was quoted, saying “#*$#&* #$*#&$# #*$#($*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
Good riddance…him and Roger (if he doesn’t go to jail) can sit around and shoot roids
I always wondered what wifi service was like from under a rock. Thanks for being the person to run those tests..
Sorry you’re right I guess I should be more impressed by his major league career, but I would like to be impressed by his years when he wasn’t using PFD, but we don’t really know when that was. Most Yankee fans like you live “under a rock” if they won’t accept the reality that he was an admitted cheater, and he will not go to the Hall of Fame because of it. Just because he admitted guilt, it does not mean all is ok and forgiven
WHERE IS THE LOVE BUTTON?!
headlining a trade with gardner for a good pitcher could be a smart move for the yanks.
Gardner for Brandon Beachy or Jajr Jurrjens. Braves would have to consider it- given their CF issues and excess starting pitching coming down the pipe in a year.
Beachy would far too little and Jurrjens would be a bit of an overpay.
People seem not to notice how little Beachy has actually pitched as a starter and as a pitcher in general. He has barely over 200 IP in his entire pro career and will need to get a full AAA season starting to polish up and more importantly build up the strength and endurance needed to be counted on for a full season of MLB innings. Jurrjens however is too valuable as an established starter with still three years of control and who is going to be counted on in Atlanta’s rotation to be traded away for someone who may not get 100% PT. Now if the Yanks would add some prospects along with Gardner to force Wren to pull Jurrjens out of his rotation then I could see that but I’m not sure Cashman would value Jurrjens that highly or be that desperate.
Yeah, I agree on that analysis. Jurrjens is a little much for Gardner, and Wren doesn’t want to trade him, but overpaying from a position of strength to fill a position of weakness (and CF is the Braves weakest link this year), isn’t a bad thing.
The downside is you’d have two rookies in the rotation until at least August until Medlen comes back, but Minor should be better then most 4th starter, Beachy better then most 5th starters, and you got insurance at AAA, as well as stud prospects.
With Gardner you eliminate the chance that McLouth puts up a .180/.250/.290 line and kills your CF production/ forces you to rely on a good CF who got hurt bad, an unproven guy playing out of position (Mather) or a AAAA player (Matt young)
I really love Beachy’s excellent command/control of several solid pitches and his potential, I really don’t see him having the ability to handle any MLB rotation spot in 2011. I would rather see Lopez as a fifth starter than possibly running Beachy’s future into the groud with too big of an innings load.
Could Wren trade Jurrjens before opening day? Sure and it might be a good idea if we can continue to stockpile high upside arms but he won’t be replaced by Beachy in my opinion.
best pick off move i ever saw. respect.
Best balk ever lol
This is the opposite of what I wanted on my birthday : (
Happy Birthday
Why does Brackman figure to be in the starting rotation mix? He hasnt even pitched AAA ball yet?
Please dont sign Millwood now.
We will miss you Andy.
also happy to possibly see homegrown Yankee pitches step up!
Agreed
I agree. It’s ‘Super Nova’ time.
C’mon, AA, sign Vlad for Jays, the Yanks/Rays can be had this year, gotta seize the moment in the AL East
effing no
Andy Pettite was a great pitcher. He would never talk negative about any other player or team. Even if you hate the Yankees you can’t deny that Pettitte had a great talent.
man, he has something left…but another punch in the stomach to the Yanks!!
I think clearly he was waiting to see what was going to happen with the McNamee civil suit that was given the go ahead yesterday and the recent news of Clemen’s lawyer Hardin and his conflict of interest with Pettitte regarding the upcoming trials all gave Pettitte a glaring look of what’s to come regarding his name being in the press for all the wrong reasons this summer. I think, either out of concern for the team (not wanting to be a distraction) or simply wanting to hide from the media, he choose to take the “easier” way out.
He brought this on himself but that being said he was a great Yankee and integral part of 5 WS teams. I don’t think he’s a bad guy just a guy who made a bad choice. On that note, thanks big guy for bowing out. Get the next chapter of your life straight.
This is exactly right. Depending on how things go, a comeback next year would not surprise me one bit. Unlikely, but it would not surprise me.
As an Orioles fan, I’m happy to see Pettitte retire. He OWNED us. He was a solid pitcher for a long time – the lefthanded version of Mike Mussina. Tough competitor, and I know Yankees’ fans will miss him terribly. It will be interesting to see who they go out and get, and how much they have to give up to get him.
If the Orioles get Guerrero, that race for 2nd place in the AL East this year gets a little bit tighter!
Dude, come on. You’re an Orioles fan. EVERYONE has owned you. 😛
Man, talk about hitting a softball out of the park…
Awww. You’re just jealous.
Is Vlad pitching?
he couldn’t possibly be worse than mitre
Im not a yankees fan, but I would have liked to see Pettitte keep playing and try to go for 300. I mean yea he is about 5-6 years off but with conditioning and if he could stay health it would be cool for another pitcher to do it. I know its a long shot, and I wouldnt put money on it giving his injury history but it would have been nice to see him say lets do it give me a 3 year deal lets see how many wins I can get.
I love Andy Pettitte but the all-time wins record for the Yankees should still belong to Whitey Ford. So there is some poetic justice in this.
As a Red Sox fan, I’m loving every NYY story this offseason. Almost none of have gone their way. Even Cashman didn’t want to sign Soriano because they’d lose a pick. Gotta love the panic in NY. Cashman and the Yanks have had a tough offseason, look for a better one next year.
Will make it much more embarassing for the Sox when they still finish behind them in the standings.
There’s no place like home…there’s no place like home…
Lmfao…
Cubs could trade Dempster and Soriano for Gardner and Chamberlain – Sorry u must take him.
Hughes is 24….just had his 1st season where he was healthy enough topitch more than 150 IP. The fact that you’re comparing what he did to Dice K and Lackey over the last 20 starts says less about those two than it does Hughes. Hughes is SUPPOSE to struggle.
I think he needs at least 3 or 4 months at AAA befrom anyone really knows. Cashman has already said he’s not going to rush any of the kids just because of the “mess” of the mlb staff. If anyone comes up other than Nova it will be either Phelps, Mitchell or Noesi he said.
YFS78 whats going on with that Reply button?
It’s killin’ me. I would’ve posted a vent but the comment police are watching ssssshhhhh (looks around for notsureifsrs).
use firefox
Use Chrome
firefox > chrome
Firefox uses to many PC resources for what it does, although it used to be a lightweight application, that is no longer the case. Chrome is currently better, although that is certainly subject to change…. still waiting for someone to suggest Opera or Safari…..
AJ Burnett 4th starter < AJ Burnett 5th starter
Blanton to Yankees makes a lot of sense now. Yanks should have no problems with his full salary as he’ll earn what he’s paid and eat up innings along with lotsa donuts.
too much of a clubhouse distraction.. he and CC would be fighting over the post game spread far too much
CC may have the height advantage, but Heavy B’s a scrapper.
Over/Under on bites of human flesh eaten in that fight: 1.5
I offer you Yankee fans Barry Zito. We’ll pay half of his salary? Thanks!
This is already a sad day for Yankee fans and you just want make it worse.
I actually think Zito is a fine fourth starter, really. Just overpaid.
Thanks but even Scott Kazmir at $9 million a year would be a better risk than Barry Zito. Zito is schedule to make $17 million this year.
I hope Cashman doesn’t panic in a desperate attempt to get pitching and make a move like Tony Reagins made for Vernon Wells. Guys who are under preforming with bad contracts like Blanton, Kazmir and Zito are available.
Time for the Yankees to try “Plan AAA” I think.
Secretary: Reuben Amaro’s office, How may I help you.
Cashman: Um, Uh, Reuben Please…
Secretary: Who may I ask is calling?
Cashman: Brian Cashman.
Secretary: One moment please, Mr. Cashman…
(7 8 minutes go by….)
Amaro: Cash money, Talk to me! Sorry bout the weait I was bl;owing up a massive deuce! What’s up, homes?
Cashman: Lets talk Blanton…
Amaro: Sorry cash, not on the market. Too valuable., Best five man in the business right now. Protection, Insurance, Blah Blah Blah…
Cashman: Reuben, what are you looking for.
Amaro: Honestly Cash, I don’t wan’t to move him. If I’ve said it once I’ve said it a thousand times… Pitching wins chanpionships and …
Cashman: C’mon reuben. What do you want?
Reuben: How bout Swisher and Joba straight up.
Cashman: I’ll give you Justin maxwell and well eat all his salary.
Amaro: Let me think about it….
(Pause…)
Cashman: Hello?
(Pause)
Cashman: Reuben?
Amaro: Throw in dinner at Bern’s while were down in Florida on Steinbrenner for Me and Proefrock.
Cashman: No.
Amaro: Had to try. You drive a hard bargain Cash MAN! sign us up Baby! Done deal!
End Call
Amaro: Hey chickie, get me Ed Wade on the horn. I fell like fleecing someone else!
Amaro: (to Himself)… I should have held out for the steaks…
ha! Wait…what?
I refuse to believe Cashman has to go through a secretary to get to Amaro.
I sorry, but this script has plot flaws, and I can’t suspend my disbelief.
Thumbs-up for “blowing up a massive deuce”
Where did you get this spelling for Ruben? He is not a corned beef sandwich.
Wait. He’s not?
240 million payroll, and you end up with a rotation that includes Colon and garcia? Not to mention counting on Burnett.
Money just doesn’t go as far as it used to, does it?
the real interesting part will be if C.C’s knee (coming off surgery) can’t handle 300+ pounds landing on it.
Never underestimate the power of the “Super Nova”! The Yankees will be fine:
CC, Hughes, AJ, Nova, Mitre/Colon/Garcia/Brackman and don’t forget about that lock-down bullpen.
Yankees fans keep talking about their “lock-down bullpen”. What do they have out there beyond Mo and Soriano? Anything?
JOBAAAAA
Joba w/ the 2.98 FIP and the 9.7 K/9
D Robertson w/ the 3.58 FIP and the 10.4 K/9
Logan with the 3.73 FIP and the 8.5 K/9
and the new guy Feliciano(don’t want to use NL stats)
5th best AL bullpen in FIP in 2010 + Soriano + Feliciano
Any other questions?
Thanks. All I’ve heard about is Joba and everyone seems to want to see him gone. I guess people are just looking at his ERA. Yankees fielding must really suck when he’s pitching. Yeah, yeah, small sample size and all that…
Must have missed hte part where they said colon and garcia were in their rotation, and the 240 million payroll. I mean really man? Do some reading.
one of colon or garcia will surely be in the rotation. If not both
Congrats, you only misstated their payroll by 20%
Wait until they’re done picking up salary dump starters.
Cashman has to feel like he’s being punk’d right now.
Just half? I thought the whole contract possibly.
$240 million? Your math really sucks.
The Yankee haters of yore, at least those who don’t live in New England, have evolved into Red Sox haters, for the same reason.
We Red Sox haters dare to hope the 2011 Red Sox flounder with Beckett, Lackey and Dice K all hammered with regularity. That isn’t such a stretch: Beckett and Lackey in particular are ordinary, overpaid vets at present, while Dice K never was.
I’m not a Blue Jay fan, but if I was……
“I’m not a Blue Jay fan, but if I was……”
Then I’d still be hoping for at least 3rd place.
The strength of the Red Sox rotation is in their top 2 young ace starters of Lester and Buchholz. Outside of that… they have just as many question marks as the Yankees.
A comparison of stats for the #3-5 starters of the Yankees and Red Sox rotation:
Yankees:
10-15 5.26 ERA
12-6 4.64 ERA
1-2 4.50 ERA
Red Sox:
14-11 4.40 ERA
6-6 5.78 ERA
9-6 4.69 ERA
you are correct looking at hte numbers, however beckett was injury plagued and can be a really good pitcher, more potential then burnout. Also the red sox have lackey/dice k who can be rocky but are solid veterans at hte back end of your rotation who have both one big playoff games. I have to give the edge to the red sox.
Little known fact, Lackey led the Sox in quality starts in 2010.
woaaaaaaah. no way
Now, I’m not saying quality starts are actually a good stat (how valuable is 6 IP and 3 ER?) but still, Lackey was tied for 8th in the AL with 21 quality starts. As a point of reference, Verlander had 22 quality starts.
Also, Lackey matched Greinke in QS and QS%.
Agreed that the edge goes to the Red Sox. My only point is, people are being over-dramatic by saying the Yankees are doomed because of their starting pitching situation. In the end, Pettitte retiring could be a blessing in disguise for the organization. Usually Yankee prospects don’t get much of a chance to prove themselves at the MLB level unless they are traded to another team. Now there is open competition for 2 rotation spots between Mitre, Colon, Garcia and a bunch of young kids from one of the top 10 farm systems in the Majors. Maybe they will find the next Pettitte replacement among names like Backman, Betances, Phelps, Banuelos, Warren, Noesi, Nova, and Bleich.
Soooo… you’re going to just go ahead and ignore history? Red Sox 3-5 is Beckett, Lackey, and Dice-K. Last year Beckett spent a decent amount of time on the DL (Funny how yanks fans tend to ignore that little tidbit) yet still can be an effect #2 starter, Lackey had a bad intro to the AL East but has a history of being a #2 starter as well, and Dice-K is at least a decent #3 starter on an average team so he makes a pretty good #5 starter.
As for the yanks 3-5 we have Burnett, Nova, and Garcia. Burnett had a bad year last year, no injury to fall back on, big question mark there. Garcia, back end starter with a lot of recent injury history, big question mark. Nova, a rookie, always a question mark.
Sorry, but right now the yanks rotations really have more question marks and less potential.
Let me get this out the way. THE RED SOX HAVE A BETTER PITCHING STAFF.
However, might I interject something to contemplate?
a) No one should expect Buchholz to be any where near what he was last year.
2.33 ERA vs a 3.61 FIP. A 6.22 K/9 and a 3.47 B/9 and 79% LOB and a near lge leading .261 BaBIP. Luck or skill?
b) Beckett’s injury was a random one due to a floul ball, or HBP or sore hammy. It was his back and those injuries don’t go away easily. He has missed games in 2008 (15 day DL), 2009 (5 days) and 2010 (15 day and 60 day DL) due to his back as well as other DL stints over the last 3 years due to a right elbow injury and a neck injury.
Also, w/ regards to his peripherals, he’s seen 3 consecutive years of a declining K/9, FIP and FB velocity (even though it’s still good @ 93 mph). His B/9, HR/9 and HR/FB rate have all increased for 3 straight years as well.
Yes blame his decline on injuries but seeing as how those injuries seem to be of the chronic nature I’m not sure how anyone can not say, that at best, Beckett is an unknown quantity for 2011.
c) Dice-K -Complete mystery for 2011. Bad injury history (212 IP over the last 2 years), FIP around 4.50-4.75 over last 2 years and a B/9 always around 4.5-5 and a declining GB % three years in a row.
d) Lackey. Who know’s? Is he 1st half Lackey or 2nd half Lackey? Completely flukey.
No monthly FIP avail.
April/March- 4.50 ERA vs .344 BaBIP
May- 5.17 ERA vs .280 BaBIP
June-3.86 ERA vs .383 BaBIP
July-3.67 ERA vs .275 BaBIP
August-5.75 ERA vs .385 BaBIP
Sept/Oct- 3.46 ERA vs .273 BaBIP
Ouside of Lester, I don’t think there’s anyone on their staff that’s issue free.
So I absolutely give the Sox the thumbs up and the Yanks have wayyyyy more question marks, but pardon me if we don’t just hand over the AL East title to them yet.
I am agreeing that on paper the Red Sox rotation looks better and has less question marks, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t question marks or potentially more question marks down the road.
Beckett had injuries… yes I noticed that. But I also noticed that a healthy Beckett has struggled just as much against the Yankees in recent years as a banged up Beckett. Outside of the 2003 World Series, the Yankees hitters have pretty much owned Josh Beckett, especially in recent years.
You are quick to defend Beckett because of injury problems but then you write off Garcia because he is injury prone. Oxymoronic logic from what I can see.Lackey has shown a decline in numbers since 2007 and struggled with injuries in both 2008 and 2009. So are you going to defend him because of injuries or condemn him because of injuries. I’m sure if he played for the Yankees you wouldn’t give him any benefit of the doubt.
Burnett didn’t have a physical injury but was going through a nasty divorce. Sometimes the mental aspect of ones life can interfere with the mental aspect of the game. There is just as much a chance that Burnett bounces back with his ex-wife in his rearview as there is Beckett bouncing back from injury and living up to the huge extension that Epstein gave him.
Because no one has mentioned it….I will miss Andy Pettitte pitching because it is so much fun to watch people steal home.
This just in..
Andy used retirement as an excuse to let down the Yankees easily, he gave them the old
“its not you.. its me”
When it actuality, there is someone else… Andy has been spotted around town, holding hands and kissing various players on the Philadelphia Phillies (source:TMZ) Wearing a low hat with sunglasses and a mustache so that he was not identified while at a popular restaurant in Philadelphia’s downtown core..
Anonymous wait staff at the restaurant said they over heard Andy laughing about pretending to retire.. then asking Cliff Lee to pick up the check because he took less guaranteed money to join the Phils
Brutal attempt at a joke
You have nothing better to do than to follow me around for a chance to Zing! me
I actually, sincerely feel sorry for you
PS.. please don’t tell me next that you are going drive down from the suburbs to put a ‘cap’ in me
sorry I won’t ever view blue jays or major headlines so I do not “follow you” and … sorry but that was a brutal attempt at a joke…
yet you scroll through 5 pages and don’t make one comment, but then zone in on mine..
Its okay, you can admit it.. I don’t swing that way, but I’m very flattered to have a fan boy
maybe its your witty banter and winning personality that make him follow you around
I love you too, man
I think that AA said those exact words to Tony Reagins, and probably will every year until at least 2014
regardless of the hgh scandel andy had a great career he was a fan favorite obvously im not the only one who’s sad to seem him go.
Good. I’m glad he’s retiring, just because it screws the Yanks. All that money and a joke of a rotation LMAO!!! If I’m a club that has pitching to deal, I’m on the phone with them now, offering lopsided trades…
Wow what a respectful, and thoughtful comment.
The Yanks, Red Sox, and Phils deserve no respect, as they are all evil-empires IMO. The Yanks in particular are a joke, considering they have the highest payroll of all, yet their rotation is complete garbage after CC.
Hey Yanks, Kenshin Kawakami is available. He has a 2.00 ERA in 5 career starts against the AL East! We know you have the money, w/o a clue of how to spend it…
if you’re this bitter now, imagine sunday night when the packers are getting plowed
LOL what a simpleton. That’s UGA’s logo, not Green Bay’s! You sir = FAIL
You’re from Georgia and most likely a Braves fan. That explains your feelings of repressed inferiority and angst.
Actually I’m proud of what the Braves accomplished last season. We were without our starting 3b, 2b, and closer, yet made it to the postseason. It’s impressive to make it that far, let alone make a series of it with those losses. You Yanks spend the most money of anyone and still can’t get it done. (Insert excuse here, and by excuse, I mean attack the poster of the comment, because you in fact have no excuse, and know it’s true)
Really, they dont know how to spend it? Maybe you should take a look back about 3 years ago and look at the free agents they signed! So according to you, spending money, that an organization has an ample amount of, on the 3 top free agents on the market and arguably dominated in the season and winning the World Series the following year doesn’t demonstrate how to spend money when you have it? Change your diaper and grow up you baby!
Want some cheese with that whine?
Congrats…you have 1 WS title in the past 10 years, yet you’ve had the highest payroll for how long? Yeah, thats what I thought, shut your mouth. What’s more is that the loser Yanks only have 3 WS appearances in the past 10 years. So yeah, they don’t know how to spend it, because anyone with their resources has no reason not to win every year.
Yankees have 3 WS appearances in 10 years and one win, Braves have how many? That’s right zero! And in fact the Braves have only made it to the NLCS 1 time in the past 10 years, Yankees have in fact made it to the ALCS 6 times in 10 years. And even if the Yankees by far and away have the highest payroll in the MLB, they still have shown better results than the Braves have in the 10 years you are basing your info off of! It’s ok to be jealous.
Hats off to Andy for a strong career – not HOF imo – but solid nonetheless. Wish more players took the road of humility and admitted there wrong doings. Wether it was just injury recovery or not, doesn’t change the fact he was legitimately apologetic. Hats off Andy; NYY just lost a class act.
While it may have helped their pitching depth, did Teh Yankees really need another player to make them collectively even older than they already are?
Now that Pettitte has retired, the average time length of baseball games around the league will be quite a bit shorter. The Commissioner should be happy about that.
jays fan here: as for bumnett – ppl also don’t indicate that he went/going through a very ugly divorce – not that it would impact ones mental state…
“Herp Derp Steriods”- Typical non Yankee fan.
For the record I HATE HATE HATE the Yankees and they have plenty of players who are deserving of scorn, hate, cheap shots, wise cracks etc.
Andy Pettite is not one of them.
Class act all the way.
I think andy still finds his way into HOF , Opinions ?
First ballot. After all, he was clean as a whistle in an era of … oh … wait … never mind.
No way is he first ballot , im thinking more like goose gossage territory
I don’t think he makes it. His numbers, which are what most people look at, just aren’t enough. If he had reached 300 Ws, then I would say yes. He is a model of consistency, but not greatness.
i think the 19 post season wins and the rings might make up for lack of regular season wins , but i dont have a vote but no way would he end up in there first ballot he would have to wait and sweat it out like there making all of these great players from the late 80’s era
No, he is in the Hall of the very good. He would have needed to pad his stats for another 2 years (275 wins or so) plus maybe another strong post season to have cemented it. I think the whole PED will derail his very good numbers anyway.
I Really Hope So, He Deserve It
Even as a Sox fan, I have to say, classy guy, and great career.
100% agree
Thanks for everything Andy! Even if you admitted to hgh you were a good and sometimes stereotypical american role model. You made your mistake and came back clean to win us another championship. Every one deserves a second chance and you proved worthy. You shut the smarter baseball fans up, but after reading some of these comments I see you still have to work on the rest. Thanks for even making that texas team relevant again as well.
I read this as Utley “humps” lefties.
One I don’t blame him for not wanting to work with Larry Rothschild. 2. 4th place finish for the yankees .. very lucky if they finish 3rd
Um….No.
They won’t win the division… that’s a fact..it doesn’t help them that actually hired the worst pitching coach in all of baseball and i mean all as in from little league to HS to College to the Minors and finally the ML.
Its February. Last year the Yankees were picked not better then 2nd by most, 3rd place by others. Sox were the lock to win the division for many because of their pitching staff and defense.
4th place? What the hell are you smoking man?
Joba here is your chance!
I’m just glad the Twins will never have to face this guy again in the playoffs.
Never was a Yankees fan, but I always liked Pettitte and had respect for him. It’s nice he’s going out on his terms, instead of being forced to retire later.
Good for andy, he had a great career, is a borderline HOF, and a you could tell he was a good guy. Unfortunately, this news kills the yankees rotation. With 3 question marks, they will need career years from Hughes and CC, or they will need the next 3 SP’s to pitch significantly better then expected. AJ needs to get back to where he was for most of his career, Nova needs to be huge, and whoever is the 5 starter needs to be great for this team to get to the playoffs.
CC
Hughes
AJ
Nova
everyone else
you can have Zambrano we don’t need anything in return.. we will give you Z and his entire salary that remains..
Well this certainly makes the Wild Card race a lot more interesting. Rays are, without question, right there with the Yankees. Blue Jays may be strong competition as well. Heck, depending on how much the AL East cannibalizes itself, there may even be room for an AL Central team to sneak in there for once.
Good observations. I am a Yankees fan & I am hoping all that some of those “big time” farm arms can match their reps in the majors by the All Star break.
Mitre isn’t our #5 starter.
No, Nova is because Garcia should be in the 4th spot
Ummmm……does it pain you to know that even w/ a “weak” rotation the Yanks still have a better chance of making the playoffs than the Braves? Does it pain you that despite having the BEST rotation in baseball year after year after year that the Braves only ended up with just 1 WS ring? Does it irk you that the Yanks are sitting on millions waiting to be spent, a great farm with 7 pitching prospects @ AA or higher and are 1 pitcher away from being a likely 95 win team?
I don’t usually like to brag about those things because it’s rather snobbish but you seem so irate right now. It use to be that at LEAST you had the comfort of knowing that despite not winning a WS title that you had at least the right to brag about having the best rotation in the NL. I guess with the way the Phillies and Giants have progressed it stings not even having THAT to puff your chest out about.
Win something meanigful and then I’ll take your “boo hoo yanks fans” comment a bit more seriously.
“Atlanta Braves….been kissing their sister since 1995”.
Cheating, steroids, HOF, classy, whatever. You guys get on your soapbox and figure it out. Meanwhile, I’m glad the Sox don’t have to deal with him anymore.
I hope the orioles win the division.
Keep hoping.
Without making the postseason, my apologies.
Can’t beleive they removed my comment
skewing of numbers? Like how Babe Ruth never played against hispanic or african american players? Put an asterisk up there.
What is that concoction there? Is that gatorade? EDGE!!!
We’ll be fine. Burnett can’t be any worse than he was last year, Nova will be okay, and I wont be suprised if Cash pulls out a trade for a good starter. And if not Garcia will be fine.
Our offense will be strong and we have plenty of depth in case of injuries. Plus, our bullpen will be the best in the bigs.
If we dont win the division, wild card for sure.
I will always remember Pettitte for proving the healing capabilities of HGH. Truly an inspiration for medical science.
From sawx perspective glad he’s gone. I tip my hat to him. Great athelete and obviously a great teammate. He was a thorn in our side for years. Hopefully he’s gone for good this time.
Andy is one of the great Yankees of recent times, definitely going to miss him taking the mound every 5th day.
Woohoo! No Yankees in the playoffs this year!