On this day 20 years ago, the Atlanta Braves signed Falcons cornerback Deion Sanders as a free agent. Though he struggled in his first year as a Brave, 'Prime Time' was a key contributor for the National League champs in 1992; he hit .304/.346/.495 with 26 stolen bases in 325 regular season plate appearances and added eight hits and five steals in four World Series games. Sanders ended up leaving both Atlanta franchises in 1994, but not before he racked up 75 stolen bases and ten touchdowns for the Braves and Falcons respectively. Here are Sunday's links:
- The Brewers are comfortable with Rickie Weeks' deadline for an extension, writes Tom Haudricourt of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel. He relays a quote from assistant GM Gord Ash praising Weeks for focusing on the right area once the season starts — baseball.
- Steve Dilbeck of the Los Angeles Times looks at the possibility of Tony Gwynn Jr. hitting well enough to play every day and how that would impact the Dodgers' roster.
- Michael Cuddyer and agent Casey Close have yet to discuss a long-term extension with the Twins, writes MLB.com's Kelly Thesier. While Cuddyer is open to talking about a contract during Spring Training, he'd prefer to table the topic during the regular season.
- Martin Luther King III, son of the civil rights leader, is leading a group that's interested in buying at least 50% of the Mets, reports Kevin Kernan of the New York Post. The Wilpons were said to be willing to sell up to 25% of the team.
- Given the Mets' financial situation, some rival executives think Jose Reyes is likely to be moved before this year's trade deadline, according to ESPN.com's Buster Olney (Insider-only).
- In a tweet, Olney adds that, despite considering it, the Diamondbacks are "probably not" going to implement a humidor at Chase Field this year.
- Matt Gelb of the Philadelphia Inquirer wonders why expectations for Phillies' prospect Domonic Brown seem to have diminished since last summer.
- Within an Indians mailbag, Paul Hoynes of the Cleveland Plain Dealer says he can see the Tribe signing a couple more players before Spring Training, though the team would likely only do minor league deals.
JD
As a Mets fan I can get behind anybody or any group of people buying the team from the Wilpons.
This way I can have a dream of the Mets winning a title at some point in my life and not sob uncontrollably at my own delusions.
dc21892
It will never be as bad as a Cubs fan has it.
I am Urban Legend
and yet cubs fans are 100x more enjoyable to talk to than Mets fans, who all the while, competing for a playoff spot for 4 out of the past 6 years, still made RACE the most consistently brought up issue. from oct 2004 – oct 2010
Smrtbusnisman04
Then keep on praying Bernie Madoff rots in hell for a billion years with dogs feasting on his intestines everyday.
Suitors for Reyes:
Angels
Cubs
Tigers
Twins
Dodgers
Blue Jays
and Brewers?
CaseyBlakeDeWitt
Sorry. Nevermind
Smrtbusnisman04
Angels
Cubs
Tigers
Twins
Blue Jays
Brewers
Anthony
Add the Braves to that.
baseball islife
they wouldnt trade reyes within the division
CitizenSnips
I see what you did there.
Brandon
Mr. Snips, the awesomeness of your username is unparalleled.
Brad426
The Mets should hope Reyes has a great first half or else they will have to sell really low on him.
Guest
he had better have a great first half or they wont be selling at all
Victor Kipp
A short stop who hits and steals bases will not be sold low unless that short stop is dead.
CaseyBlakeDeWitt
I don’t know many dead bodies that run fast. Just saying.
Brad426
Things are relative. What other GM’s would consider a fair trade for Reyes at this point in time would almost certainly be considered not enough by the Mets organization.
Victor Kipp
Seems like the civil rights movement made someone a butt load of money. How about buying the Mets, then donating all of the profits from merchandise and concession sales to the NAACP? Ya, I doubt that will happen.
I am Urban Legend
well he is LEADING a group of investors. which means he could only be putting up a small % invested.
junior ballbag
And just having his name out in the forefront. With the Rangers sale, there were rumblings of Mark Cuban being the bad guy and that MLB wouldn’t approve them. How in the world could MLB NOT approve Martin Luther King III?
Infield Fly
You would think!….however that in itself could be perceived as a threat to the “old boy” network/mentality that is still prevalent throughout the MLB – despite certain notable improvements in recent years.
Patrick Kreikemeier
b/c by most accounts, including his family’s, MLK3 is a huge turd.
YanksFanSince78
Correction: “Just because it says he’s “leading a group of investors” DOESN’T means they are all part of the CRM
I am Urban Legend
You KNOW Nelson Doubleday had to be LHAO when he saw this !
YanksFanSince78
Someone on another site proposed the question as to whether or not a Mets trade involving the Yanks for Santana would make sense for the Yanks. I don’t think it does at first sight but letme propose it another way.
Yanks Situation: They muddle through 2011 and make the playoffs with a staff of CC, Hughes, AJ, Nova and whoever. The following scenarios happen.
-CC performs well, stays healthy but decides NOT to opt out as he has stated numerous times.
-HUghes has a good 2nd full season and pitches 200 IP + and has a FIP under 4.00.
-AJ bounces back and has a solid 210 IP and a ERA (just to keep it simple) under 4.10 (as he did in 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009).
-Ivan Nova proves himself to be a solid #5 starter with the possibility of being a little better.
-One of Brackman, Banuelos, Betances, Noesi, etc has a great 2011 season @ AAA and is called up sometime in August or September and shows themself deserving a rotation spot in 2012.
-Mets flounder and do nothing of consequence in 2011.
-Santana comes back in July and shows signs that he is fully recovered but might NOT EVER be the Santana that he was 3 or 4 years ago. Instead he shows the ability to be a solid #2 or #3 on a good team capable of 200 IP and a good 3.50-3.75 FIP starter who relys more on his great offspeed stuff but a mediocre 92 mph fastball w/ control that works out to a 6.5 K/9, 2.5 BB/9 and a decent 35-40% GB rate.
***Yanks decide that they want to go with CC, Hughes, Nova and one of the kids in 2012. HOwever, they want to add another frontline pitcher to give them a little more anchor on the front of the staff.
***Mets decide that even with the $50 mil that comes off the books they would be better served commiting to a short rebuild and to cut as much salary as possible and build around Wright, Bay (can’t move contract), Ike, Pagan, Pelfry and Niese.
Yanks approach the Mets and offer AJ Burnett (starting in 2012 owed 2/$33 mil) and a lower level but hi-ceiling pitching prospect (see Jose Ramirez, Bryan Mitchell or Brett Marshall) for Johan Santana (starting in 2012 owed $2/$55 mil guaranteed or possibly a total of 3/$74.5 mil if it turns into a player option).
From the Mets perspective they are guaranteed to save at least $22 mil and possibly up to $41 mil. They get a pitcher in return who can be a decent pitcher in a bigger park in the NL. NO guarantee to be a front line pitcher but should be a league average innings eater at worst and pitch to under a 4.20 FIP.
From the Yanks perspective, they would have a relatively inexpensive back end of the rotation with Hughes, Nova and one of the rookies given a spot in 2012. CC and Santana would anchor the staff and while the two would be expensive, their salaries are off set by the other three.
Does this get done? If not, who hangs up first and why?
Muggi
It’s an interesting idea, but I bet the Mets hang up first.
Even if AJ has a decent season, the stigma is on him already: can’t be trusted, prone to wild swings. Even using your numbers, it would be a pretty huge downgrade from a 3.75 FIP guy to a 4.20 guy who isn’t dependable.
I think it’s a real possibility but the Yanks would have to part with a better prospect. Warranted or not, Johan is still JOHAN even with the injury history.
Intersting idea though. Hell I could see the Yanks approaching them about Johan at the trade deadline.
MetsEventually
…No.
YaGottaBelieve11
Mets hang up when the first name mentioned is Burnett.
David B
thats a very interesting idea. I’m not sure how good johan could be anymore, and giving him 18mil per for 4 more years(is that the number?)is ridiculous with the mets in the rebuilding situation they are in. if i were alderson, i would need someone more consistent than AJ. it’ll give mets fans terrible deja-vu with Aj on the mound throwing wildly and walking 5 guys a game.
Victor Kipp
Guys..please go to e s p n dot com and read the story they have on there in regards to this. I’m sorry to those that disagree with me or whatever. Just read about yourself the story just popped up on espn.
Victor Kipp
I’m not a Mets fan by have friends who are suffering daily and there is nothing more I would like to see than the Wilpon’s sell the team.
YanksFanSince78
I still don’t see your point.
W/ regard to the MLK III led group: Lead member TV exec Larry Meli (a white guy) said “”It’s fitting with the legacy of Jackie Robinson essentially transferring to the Mets, what better place to have African-American ownership than with the Mets?” The group included MLK III, Don Clendonn Jr, Ed Kranepool and Meli. That’s two black guys and two white guys. I don’t recall hearing them asking, receiving or even their being a possibility of them getting any sort of minority priveleges or funding or affirmative action for franchize owners.
Seli (a white guy) made the comment, and it’s obvious a self-serving one, but to say they should donate all the proceeds from concessions because of who MLK IIII’s father is, is sort of absurd. As long as they pay the cost to be the boss then they can keep or disperse their profits any way they please.
W/o even knowing their individual financial worth, it would not shock me if MLK III, Clendonn Jr and Kranepool aren’t even the majority investors of this group.
Victor Kipp
When you are “leading” a group of investors it means that you are the person providing a majority of the funds. I was reffering to the portion of the article referring to the Madoff scandal and the lawsuit. The Wilpon’s could be on the hook for almost $1 billion. I wouldn’t care if aliens bought the team. To me color has nothing to do with it. However, you can see by the term “African American ownership” that ESPN knows what I know. That is that King is the lead investor aka the lead investor aka majority share holder of the new group. he is putting up the most money. Now do you see what I am saying? King is putting up a serious amount of capital. Obviously he has a very good paper route.
Guest
Im not sure how much money that group has but after Frank McCourt’s fantastic adventure in LA, the MLB suits would be insane to let anyone in a major market unless they are filthy rich. Its still mind boggling that McCourt was approved.
Victor Kipp
If they want to make a run at a 50% share the its safe to assume they have at least $350 million minimum.
YanksFanSince78
No it does not. You don’t have to have the most money invested to be the “leader of a group”. A lot of times the “leader of the group” is more the “face” of the group because they have some sort of noteriety that lends some credibility or cashe.
For media purposes, the phrase “Nolan Ryan-Led Group Agrees to Buy Texas Rangers” was thrown around often. We know Greenberg was the other name attached but it was actually Ray Davis who is the big money man behind the scenes and most of us didn’t know who he was until deep inside the Lee negotiations began.
The actuall group that own the Rangers consists of 18 different partners and those partners have partners w/in their own group.
From Forbes:
Meet The Texas Rangers’s New Money Man
Steven Bertoni
“Hall of Fame ace, Nolan Ryan, is once again the face of the Texas Rangers. Sports attorney Chuck Greenberg is the salesman. But elusive pipeline billionaire Ray Davis is the one holding the wallet– a big wallet. With an estimated net worth of $1.2 billion, the former Energy Transfer chief helped the Ryan/Greenberg group fight off a last minute bid by fellow billionaire–and Dallas Mavericks owner–Mark Cuban”.
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So just like Ryan and Greenberg get the pub…”Group led by Nolan Ryan” or “Group led by Ryan-Greenberg” neither of them have the majority of the money invested.
The same COULD be said of this deal. I’m pretty confident in saying that MLK III is NOT the lead investor. More than likely he is the investor with the most recongnized name among the group. He didn’t even make a statement or was quoted in the article. My guess is, he will become more of a figure at some point and time as it makes for a great story and certainly acts as a great example of the American dream.
From The Post (of all raggedy papers to qute from):
“Martin Luther King III has a dream: To buy the Mets.
The son of the late civil-rights leader is uniting with some heavy hitters, including Mets legend Ed Kranepool; entrepreneur Donn Clendenon Jr., son of the 1969 Mets World Series MVP; TV executive Larry Meli; and a number of unnamed deep-pocketed investors, The Post has learned”.
“…a number of unnamed deep-pocketed investors” being the operative words.
Victor Kipp
Dude, obviously you have a hard time understanding the English language. “LEADS” a group. O.K. when it’s made clear how much money they are willing to pay and how much each person is putting up and you see that King III is putting up the most will you say that you were wrong then?
junior ballbag
Actually, he’s right. You have no idea what you’re talking about. He just gave the perfect example. Which you can’t seem to understand.
YanksFanSince78
Thank you!
Victor Kipp
sigh
YanksFanSince78
Yes, if it comes out that he invested the most then I will seek you out and apologize. Don’t think I will need to though.
Victor Kipp
Hey buddy. Hey I’ve just gotten some word that the big reason the Wilpon’s are in in trouble is that they borrowed upwards of $500 million dollars against cash that they believed they had still invested with Bernie madoff. They initially invested $500 million with him..drew out $547 million but still believed that they had another $500 million in profits in their account that they used as collateral to borrow from a lending institution. Stay tuned. Also on febuary 9th there is a motion hearing regarding the lawsuit brought by trustee’s. right now the Wilpon’s have requested and been granted permission to have the details of their case sealed. this information may be revealed on feb. 9th.
East Coast Bias
LEADS just means the public face of the group, not the one with the most money invested. Don’t know how to make it any more simpler than that.
YanksFanSince78
Frank McCourt is far from broke. Collectively, he and his soon to be ex-wife built an empire worth $1.2 billion. The problem is….they bought it was a couple from money they collectively earned. That means…keep your wife happy.
The fact that McCourt has been tight w/ the money is more from neccesity that his wife is his partner and the team is community property subject to be claimed as a family assett. It sucks,but that’s the law.
McCourt’s net worth is $1.2 bil and they bought the team for $370 mil plus another $60 mil for stadium and other things. Now, as of April 2010, the team is worth $730 mil. Frank is far,far from broke but giving your wife half of everything you own plus the $2 mil annual salary or $490k a MONTH in spousal support.
Moral of the story…it’s cheaper to keep her.
YanksFanSince78
It’s interesting to see how Santana’s 2014 $25 mil option can become guaranteed.
2014 club option becomes player option if Santana:
-wins Cy Young award from 2008-13 and finishes second or third in the Cy Young vote in one other season
-ranks second or third in Cy Young vote in any 3 seasons, 2008-13
-is on the active roster for the final 30 days of 2013 season, and:
pitches 215 innings in 2013, or
pitches 420 innings in 2012-13, or
pitches 630 innings in 2011-13
He finished 2nd in 2008 so if he a) Wins a Cy Young b) finishes 2md or 3rd two more times from 2011-2013 then it becomes guaranteed.
East Coast Bias
Look at the shortstop group in the league. It’s Tulo and Hanley… and then a HUGE dropoff. With a rebound year, which is very likely now that he’s had time to recover from injury and doesn’t have to worry about where he bats, Reyes could bring in a king’s ransom if traded (and signed?)… but I would still keep him. He’s just too dynamic a player to give away.
tacko
“After the game, inside the Phillies’ clubhouse, his teammates gushed. On the table in the middle of the room were copies of the most recent edition of Baseball America, with Brown on the cover, anointed the best prospect in baseball.”
When did this ever happen?
David B
i agree with bias. he’s the spark that ignites the offense(when there is an offense). i remember in 06 when he hit 280(i think?) 18 homers and 60-70 something stolen bases. when jose is healthy he’s a great shortstop. if they let him go they’d have to trade him. now think about this… the cards said they would need an already established semi-star player(jose is a star when he’s healthy) and several prospects to trade pujols. if i were alderson i could possibly give jose reyes, ruben tejada, jennry mejia, and 1 or more prospects. now thats an interesting trade idea…