The Yankees are about to offer Derek Jeter a three-year deal worth $45MM, according to Jon Heyman of SI.com (on Twitter). Joel Sherman of the New York Post reported yesterday that the Yankees would likely make such an offer to their captain.
Wallace Matthews of ESPNNewYork reported earlier in the week that Jeter wants at least a four-year deal and would prefer a five or six-year contract. He also reported that the Yankees would be happy to agree to a three-year $63MM deal. Some have suggested that the Yankees could play hardball with Jeter if he doesn't like their offer and tell him to test the open market and see if he does better.
Take it!
-wtk
haha 15 mill is still overpaying for his old age production…. but hey… he wont sign this… they will end up giving him 20 per year
Wasn’t that already offered to him and he rejected it?
Either way, just please take it Derek.
Take the contract “as is” and use the royalties from those super awesome “Gotta get an Edge” car commercials to keep your standard of living at a reasonable level!
Leave it to the Yankees to overpay another old player for his below average defense…I read that he wanted 20 miliion per for five years anyway so he’s not likely to accept this…
But he won a Gold Glove!!!!
Someone had to say it…
Who else could win a gold glove for such limited defense. That alone makes him worth 5 years / $100M.
now he wants to buy one
WAA WAA WAA REAPER……….OBVIOUSLY WHATEVER YOUR TEAM IS YOUR OWNER IS TOO FREAKIN CHEAP.LOTS OF OWNERS WORTH MORE THAN THE STIENBRENNERS..THEY JUST DON’T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THEIR FANS!!
no, the reality is not that they don’t care about the fans, but that they don’t generate anywhere near the level of revenue that the Yankees do. It’s business 101. Having more money doesn’t mean it’s a good business practice to spend it when you’re not generating as much revenue.
Except of course for Jeff Loria. He definitely doesn’t care about the fans.
use your inside voice
use your inside voice
WAA WAA WAA I AM INCAPABLE OF TYPING LIKE A NORMAL HUMAN BEING
Or using punctuation correctly, for that matter. Don’t perpetuate the “awful yankee fan” stereotype, because unlike you, we enjoy not being total knobs.
He’s not worth that much, open market i don’t think he would get more then 10 a year, hes more or less a big name now, his numbers are steadily dwindling. I hate the Yankees, but have never really disliked Jeter, i think he should take it and if he wants 4 years give him 4 years for 50, less money per year if he wants 4.
Yes, very steadily dwindling. Good in 2007, bad in 2008, great in 2009, bad in 2010…Very, very, consistent.
I was going to say the same thing. I think anyone with any common sense would conclude that Jeter’s true ability at this point in his career lies somewhere between his 2009 and 2010 seasons. Someone with his athleticism does not drop off a cliff (lee) overnight He is still more than capable of hitting .290 with 15 HR’s at Yankee stadium which would still make him one of the best SS’s offensively.
You meant to say decent in 08 and slightly below average in 2010.
Take the money. Nobody is gonna offer more for Jeter.
Except maybe the Red Sox…who’d sign Jeter just to piss off the Yankees and their fans.
No, they wouldn’t. As a Red Sox fan, I can guarantee you that it will be infinitely sweeter watching Arod and Jeter rot over the next 3-4 years than paying Jeter $15MM to sit on our bench.
Well you paid your Own captain $5 million in 2009 and $3 million in 2010 to sit on the bench and be the backup. If not for a Mike Lowell 2009 part time injury putting Youlk to 3B and V-Mart to 1B and a Victor Martinez injury in 2010 putting Varitek behind the plate, Varitek would have been playing ball 1-2 times a week.And what’s said, is that Martinez was making less than $1 million more than Varitek. Not saying Varitek is of no importance but please, “As a Red Sox fan”, stop talking about Yankees overpaying their captain, when the Red Sox did the same with theirs.
Yes Jeter made more than Varitek, but Jeter plays almost everyday. Varitek signed to be a backup catcher and was forced to play more when the injuries came along.
The Yankees are the kings of overpaying players. There’s no denying that. There just isn’t.
Guess that makes the Red Sox queens then.
Seriously dude?
The Sox paid Varitek $8M over two years. At the low end, the Yankees are about to pay Jeter five times as much over three years.
How did you type out that comparison without realizing that it’s complete BS?
Exactly what is the BS? Please share. Last time I checked, $5 million + $3 million, which I posted = $8 million.
Unless I’m speaking with Bill James Jr. who has discovered another new formula. Do share sir.
The formula is 30>8=Your Comparrison Is Crap.
Sorry Obsessions, try again.
Starting from the top:
-Someone said the Sox would consider signing Jeter just to peeve off the Yankees.
-Someone responded with (In as many words): No, that’s stupid, watching the Yankees overpay him would be more favorable to the Sox than giving $60 million to a shortstop who is past his prime.
-You came in and said (Again, in as many words): Nuh uh! The Sox gave Varitek a two year, eight million dollar deal! They would totally do the same thing as the Yankees.
-A couple people came in and said “paying someone past their prime $60 million dollars over four years” and “paying someone past their prime $8 million dollars” are two very different things.
-You came back to say, again: “Nuh uh.”
Giving a washed up star too much to be a backup is a lot different than giving a washed up star WAY too much money to be a starter.
You’re acting as if I’m saying they aren’t overpaying Jeter. Of course they are. Did I say they weren’t? Not sure what you’re trying to tell me. Unless you’re telling me $15 millino a year is more than $4 million, except I’m not in pre-school so I think I kind of know that by now.I’m saying you paid $4 milliion for Varitek to play as a Back up catcher. Normally a team would not pay a hitter $4 million to be on the bench. Put to the Red Sox, he’s worth the $4 millino because he means a lot to the team and the team means a lot to him.Exactly why the Yankees are doing it for Jeter. They are overpaying him to keep him back because he means a lot. Jeter wants to stay in NY, Varitek wanted to stay in Boston. Varitek wanted $10 million and start, he settled to be a backup catcher (at the time) for $4 million. Until those injuries came alongNo matter how much he makes, Jeter will start at SS, it’s the amount they can get him for and the amount of years that’s up for debate.If this is accurate, in the last 3 years, Varitek has made $18.4 million but in terms of value has been worth $8.8 millionJeter in the last 3 yeards made $64.8 million and his value has been worth $58.3 millionTechnically on FanGraphs, this would mean the Red Sox have overspent on Varitek more than the Yankees overpsent on Jeter (the past 3 years)But yes I am on your side when you say Jeter is overpaid. But hey, see what teams are willing to do when they want to bring their captains back?Not trying to be an a-hole or anything Obsession, don’t take it the wrong way.
“I’m saying you paid $4 milliion for Varitek to play as a Back up catcher”
Not actually. He was offered his deal ($5 million for ’09 with a $3 million player/$5 million club option for ’10) before Martinez was acquired. He was being paid that to be their starting catcher. The fact he was given such a relatively low salary is what made it economically feasible to replace him via trade when the opportunity arose. He ended up being an expensive backup, but that was not what he was signed as, he was signed as a starter.
You’re acting as if I’m saying they aren’t overpaying Jeter. Of course they are. Did I say they weren’t? Not sure what you’re trying to tell me. Unless you’re telling me $15 millino a year is more than $4 million, except I’m not in pre-school so I think I kind of know that by now.I’m saying you paid $4 milliion for Varitek to play as a Back up catcher. Normally a team would not pay a hitter $4 million to be on the bench. Put to the Red Sox, he’s worth the $4 millino because he means a lot to the team and the team means a lot to him.Exactly why the Yankees are doing it for Jeter. They are overpaying him to keep him back because he means a lot. Jeter wants to stay in NY, Varitek wanted to stay in Boston. Varitek wanted $10 million and start, he settled to be a backup catcher (at the time) for $4 million. Until those injuries came alongNo matter how much he makes, Jeter will start at SS, it’s the amount they can get him for and the amount of years that’s up for debate.If this is accurate, in the last 3 years, Varitek has made $18.4 million but in terms of value has been worth $8.8 millionJeter in the last 3 yeards made $64.8 million and his value has been worth $58.3 millionTechnically on FanGraphs, this would mean the Red Sox have overspent on Varitek more than the Yankees overpsent on Jeter (the past 3 years)But yes I am on your side when you say Jeter is overpaid. But hey, see what teams are willing to do when they want to bring their captains back?Not trying to be an a-hole or anything Obsession, don’t take it the wrong way.
Starting from the top:
-Someone said the Sox would consider signing Jeter just to peeve off the Yankees.
-Someone responded with (In as many words): No, that’s stupid, watching the Yankees overpay him would be more favorable to the Sox than giving $60 million to a shortstop who is past his prime.
-You came in and said (Again, in as many words): Nuh uh! The Sox gave Varitek a two year, eight million dollar deal! They would totally do the same thing as the Yankees.
-A couple people came in and said “paying someone past their prime $60 million dollars over four years” and “paying someone past their prime $8 million dollars” are two very different things.
-You came back to say, again: “Nuh uh.”
Giving a washed up star too much to be a backup is a lot different than giving a washed up star WAY too much money to be a starter.
Exactly what are you talking about?
You were trying to compare the Yankees upcoming massive overpaying Jeter to the Red Sox spending $8M (read: chump change) on Varitek.
I was saying that it’s ridiculous to compare spending chump change on Varitek to spending $45M+ on Jeter.
It’s not the total amount I was referring to, it was the amount of playing time compared to the total amount. Jeter is no doubt going to be overpaid. $8 million is not chump change for a Bench Player (Read- Bench Player), who only became a starter because of other injuries. Nor is $30 million (in 2 years) any chump change for an everyday decline player.As I said, read the value of the 2 the last 3 years. Varitek was paid over $18 million but his value was only worth a little above $9 million. Jeter was paid over $64 millino but his value was worth $56 millionSo when comparing the 2 team captains, it turns out despite the Yankees spending $46 million more on Jeter, it turns out the Red Sox lost more money value wise than the Yankees did.This is based on Fan Graph, not me, so if you want to argue that, take it up with whoever created the formula. I only read, I didn’t create it.Nontheless, I agree with all of you, $15 million is way too much for Jeter, unless somehow he repeats the year he had in 2009. (Both in the field when he was actually good that year in terms of range with a positive UZR, and with the bat also)
That is a much too simplistic approach. There are numerous intangibles that go into Jeter’s value and I am not talking about club leadership and that BS.
Jeter is the most popular player on the most popular team in baseball in the biggest television market in the country. His is probably worth $15M per year just in marketing value to the Yankees and their offspring the YES Network.
I could care less what the Yankees do. I made the point that the Red Sox would not offer Jeter a contract, as someone originally posted, regardless of his situation with the Yankees. Also comparing a 2 year $8 million deal to a 3-4 year $45-$60 million deal is pretty stupid.
Re-read the first sentence Einstein, “Well you paid your Own captain $5 million in 2009 and $3 million in 2010 to SIT ON THE BENCH and be the backup. “Read the words in caps. The Red Sox in the offseason gave him these deals to be a BACKUP catcher. It’s not comparing $8 million to $45 million. It’s comparing what was projected let’s say $8 million in 120 or so games, as opposed to $45 milion in about 420+ games
You do know Tek was making alot more the year before that don’t you? Lets see if Jeter can be the captain that Tek is and take 2 years $8 million…..Jeter is only about the money. The Yankees will out bid themselves for his services because no other team will make an offer half that. Sad thing is all MO wants is 2 years 30 Million and the Yankees will probably low ball him into taking less.
Yes I do know that. But that’s the same year mid-season when he lost his starting job to V-Mart. Just like the Yankees and Jeter, it took a while for the Red Sox to negotiate with Varitek to get the right deal. He knew he wasn’t going to start but he was asking for an amount they didn’t want to pay since V-Mart made $9 million I believe in 2009. $21 million to $4 million is a huge drop off, although as I said, Jeter’s value in 2010 was $9 million, so probably anything above that (we all know it will be) and he will be overpaid unless he can duplicate his 2009 season.And again, unlike Varitek, Jeter isn’t losing his starting role, it’s completely different.That’s why I was comparing not who should make more, but who was Worth more. 30 million > 8 million obviously, but that wasn’t my point and somehow you guys can’t figure that out.Varitek did the right thing and took a pay cut, and as you said, time for Jeter to do that.
“He knew he wasn’t going to start but he was asking for an amount they didn’t want to pay since V-Mart made $9 million I believe in 2009. ”
As noted, Martinez’s price tag didn’t factor into the equation as he was playing for the Indians at the time Varitek signed his last contract. The low amount of the deal had absolutely nothing to do with Varitek being a backup. The reason he signed such a low deal is because the Sox did exactly what the Yankees SHOULD be doing with Jeter: namely, when Boras made his usual insane demands, the Sox said “well, we appreciate all the hard work, but you go have fun testing the market.” After the only likely suitor, Detroit, signed Laird, Varitek resigned for a fraction of his previous salary.
lol yeah because the Sox would definitely start 35 year old Marco Scutaro (whom they are currently looking to deal) over Derek Jeter.
Considering Scutaro put up practically the exact same season as Jeter last year while playing with a messed up rotator cuff, yeah, they probably would start 35 year old Marco Scutaro over 36 year old Derek Jeter.
Quite possibly. Although I wonder what made JEter have a higher WAR (On FG) than Scutaro, when WAR actually does factor in defense. Speed maybe? Who knows. Scutaro also had a higher OPS than Jeter.
And Jeter would tell them no, because his reputation as a Yankee would be worth far more to him financially and in reputation than the few million that the Sox would pay him in 2011-2013. That’s precisely why this whole Jeter thing is such a non-story, he’s going to stay a Yankee and that’s that.
This coming from a Reds fan…
For any time not named “Yankees”, this would be a complete over pay!!
3/45 for the 2010 gold glove winning short stop? what a low ball
sarcastic? I sure hope so. He definitely didnt deserve it. Name or not, he’s not worth $15m per
I’m not a fan of sarcasm, never use it
he got that gold glove merely on his name lol
Stupid that they offered him $15MM per, even stupider that he’s going to turn it down and demand even more money.
No Short Stop EVER should get a multi-year deal at the age of 36 worth anywhere near that amount. Who’s more delusional…Jeter or the Yankees?
The reality is the Yankees are paying him for being a lifelong Yankee
1st Yankee to 3000 hits
historical place in franchise history
and all that yack, you are right he isn’t worth anything like that on the open market and wouldn’t get it.
Teams aren’t clamoring for a 36 year old shortstop at multi year deals, coming off the worst offensive season in every statistical category of his career.
The Yankees
As long as the Yankees also agree to put Jeter’s name on the front of their jerseys, this is a totally reasonable offer. Show some respect!
Yawn, wake me up when he signs a deal alreadyI mean honestly where the heck is Jeter going, name me that team please. Anyone. This subject matter is as pathetic as watching bum fights.
I don’t see why another team doesn’t just swoop in and offer Jeter a big deal just to get him out of New York.
If a team like St Louis, LA (either of them), San Fran, or Boston would offer a 4 year deal worth at least 60M, he might be tempted enough to take it. Granted, his production is slowing down, but he still puts up very good numbers for a shortstop and should have a few valuable seasons left. Yanks would be left with a huge hole at shortstop without him.
either your being clueless or sarcastic. i really can’t tell.
Name me 10 shortstops who are better than him… Go ahead, I’ll wait…Everyone hates the Yankees and Jeter so much that the first sign of decline they are ready to throw him in the garbage. There is still a chance he bounces back and puts up great numbers, the previous season he was a leading MVP candidate, it’s hard to lose those skills overnight.It’s a very shallow position, aside from Hanley, Tulo, Reyes, Drew, and Alexi Ramirez, there aren’t that many solid players. Now Jeter is going to be overpriced, obviously, but I think you know what you’re going to get from him. And whether anyone wants to admit it or not, a Yankees team without Jeter would be worse. They can sign Uribe or Renteria and I doubt they’d be any better.
I will give you 10 things that are better at playing the shortstop position than Derek Sanderson Jeter.
Troy Tulowitzki, Hanley Ramirez, Marco Scutaro, Starlin Castro, JJ Hardy, Cliff Pennington, Elvis Andrus, Alexei Ramirez, Yunel Escobar, and a moderately sized net on a fixed track capable of moving 15 feet to it’s right or left.
No “I” in team.
There’s no “Jeter” in “Yankees” either, but despite that I’m sure they’ll manage to work out a deal.
But there is “ME”.
I’ve been a Yankee Fan all my life, since the early 50’s. Jeter represents the Yankees and this offer is an embarrasement to Jeter and all “true” Yankee fans. They think nothing of paying a lousy pitcher $82.5 million and he can’t get out of the 2nd inning or pitch in the post season and you’ve got the face of the franchise and you offer him a three year deal at $15 mil? Old George must be spinning in his grave about this offer. It’s all about the money with them now, even raising some ticket prices. The hell with them.
This comes off as slightly delusional.
Sounds like George’s old drinking buddy
regardless, they are still a business. Do you think any other team would offer Jeter 3/45? I doubt it, myself.
So I’m clear on what you’re saying:
The Yankees have made bad decisions before.
The Yankees currently have to make a decision on Jeter.
Therefore, the Yankees currently have to make a bad decision on Jeter.
There’s a name for that fallacy, isn’t there? I think it’s, “Post hoc, ergo give Derek Jeter $15M a year.”
There’s a name for that fallacy, isn’t there? I think it’s, “Post hoc, ergo give Derek Jeter $15M a year.”
I am a Yankee fan since 1977. This is a fair offer and it could be a take it or leave it proposition. Don’t forget offered Bernie a ML contract in 06 and Torre a terms he couldn’t accept. They also let A-Rod walk after 2008. He had to come back because he couldn’t get another offer.
They also let Damon and Matsui walk last year after winning the WS.
Poor ARod had to come back for $305 mil. The yearly telethon should be held in the winter when he isn’t collecting his baseball paycheck…
Bernie, Damon and Matsui were all great players, but, don’t compare them to Jeter. Jeter’s a Yankee immortal, you can put him right up there with Ruth, Gehrig, Joe D, MAntle, and Yogi. Give the man what he wants, let him play as long as he wants to still lace em up, he’s done so much for the franchise he deserves whatever he’s asking for. The Yankees just have to stomach this, if there are a couple of down years that come with this decision so be it, Jeter needs to stay in pinstripes
Bernie, Damon and Matsui were all great players, but, don’t compare them to Jeter. Jeter’s a Yankee immortal, you can put him right up there with Ruth, Gehrig, Joe D, MAntle, and Yogi. Give the man what he wants, let him play as long as he wants to still lace em up, he’s done so much for the franchise he deserves whatever he’s asking for. The Yankees just have to stomach this, if there are a couple of down years that come with this decision so be it, Jeter needs to stay in pinstripes
Hello there Mr. Close, so nice of you to join our discussion. 🙂
you might as well just give him the 4 year contract, otherwise in 3 years you’re just going to have to go through this crap again and overpay him to not be worth the money AGAIN, so just save yourself some hastle…or at least delay it.
am i the only Yanks Fan who wouldn’t care if he goes to another team ? i might miss his image and all that but his performance ? Hell no ! Take That deal You overpriced piece of crap!!!!
I’m going to go out on a limb and say you started following the Yankees after 1996, possibly well after. Either way, I’ve been a Yankees fan since ’93 and I wouldn’t mind if he walked. The problem is then Ramiro Nunez is tossed into a full-time role he’s not ready for. The Yankees are better off with Jeter presently and Jeter is better off with the Yankees permanently.
The names are Eduardo Nunez or Ramiro Pena, so don’t venure out too far on that limb.
I think he said Ramiro Nunez on purpose to demonstrate that the uncertainty of Jeter’s replacement would certainly be a crappy situation for the Yankees.Kind of like Chad Ho Moseley working mop up duty out of the pen this past year. The 3 are interchangeable because they are equally sucky.
this deal so wrong…they should have gone year to year on him…all the true Yankee fans who love Derek Jeter…if the Yanks don’t win it all in 2011 be prepared to not win another World Series for as long as D.J. and Arod are both Yankees….
The Yankees are screwing up the whole shortstop market by grossly overpaying Jeter.
This deal won’t factor into the shortstop market. It’s a clear exception.
seems to me the yankees have the leverage here. NOBODY would give jeter anywhere close to that if he left.
Exactly! The Yanks will pay Jeter too much in years and dollars. The agents of shortstops will use his contract as a reference.
It’s best for all teams including the Yankees to let Jeter walk, or sign a reasonable contract.
Um… What shortstop market?
Juan Uribe is who I was thinking of. But there’s probably a dozen other shortstops out there as free agents. Off the top of my head there’s Orlando Cabera, Miguel Tejada and Edgar Renteria.
Juan Uribe is who I was thinking of. But there’s probably a dozen other shortstops out there as free agents. Off the top of my head there’s Orlando Cabera, Miguel Tejada and Edgar Renteria.
Jeter and the Yanks have nothing to do with the market.
This is a business people! Jeter will put fannies in the seats even if he hits 270! I think most people understand this. He is less than 100 hits from 3000! Take a wild guess how much the Yankees will make on this feat alone this year? low ball estimates are at least 200 million. Thats right! Pay Jeter what he is worth on the field and off hte field; there are only a handful of players that have had an impact on baseball the way Derek has. It is not just the fact that he is 37 and winding down in his career.. he brings more to the table than statistics. We all know this, whether you are a Yankees fan or a Cleveland fan.
200 million? are you just throwing around numbers?
$200 million as a lowball figure on what the Yankees will earn on Jeter’s 3000th hit? I hope you’re kidding…that is not a feasible number in the least bit.
the yankees will sell out every game without jeter..
exactly!
They sold out exactly 7 home games this year. Fact.
Well put Yankee front seat prices and other expensive seat prices as the average ticket price, there’s a good chance they sell out all 81 games.I don’t know about you, but I woudln’t pay $1500 to go to a game against a team like say the Royals or Mariners (no offense to you if you’re a fan of them)
“Take a wild guess how much the Yankees will make on this feat alone this year? Low ball estimates are at least 200 million.”
For the sake of your credibility, please defend this. And don’t just throw around $50 M for this $50 M for that. Seriously, give us a clear breakdown of the $200M based on 2010 MLB financial activity. I’d be honestly impressed with any attempt.
After Jeter get his 3000th hit.. The yankees will run a promotion to ‘own a piece of history’.. they will shave Derek after the game, head to toe.. Each hair will go on sale for the very low price of $1 per hair (plus shipping and handling) It is estimated that approximated 200,000 people world wide will flood the phone lines to own the commemorative 3000th hit hair souvenir.
You know Minka is never going to go for that.
It was her idea!
Ha ha! Ive been schooled!
Shave Minka’s and you’ll be fetching $50/hair…
Are they going to sell his pubes that got stuck in your teeth?
So wait, none of you Yankee fans go to see A-Rod, Teixiera, Cano, CC, Posada, Rivera, Pettitte, or any of those other guys?
I close my eyes whenever anyone but Jeter is at the plate.
Considering the average revenue from a game is less than 3 million, 200 million is about an entire season’s worth of sold out games, and no way in the world is 1 hit worth nearly that much.
So I assume youre saying that without Jeter, the Yankees will struggle to sell out?
They could put a cardboard cutout of Jeter at short and sell the place out. And…the cutout may have as much range at this point
They should rip up the offer and give him a 1 year deal instead for 15 mill for 2011 and 5 mill a year deferred for 7 years…and tell him take it or leave it.and yes that is a rediculous over payment…but it allows the Yankees maximum flexibility…
Next time anybody criticises the Yankees for spending big…think on this Jeter situation. There is always a downside. They’d better pray that Lee and Sabathia don’t suffer a decline to add to the Burnett/Jeter/A-Rod problem.
Did I miss them signing Lee already?
yup yesterday.
Lee to the Yankees is the very definition of ‘foregone conclusion’!
They’re offering him 3 years $21M per, and the funny thing is he shouldn’t even get 3 years FOR $21M.
they should offer $60 million over 6 years…its a joke that A-ROD will be getting paid until he is 42. even if jeter isn’t productive at 42 and playing everyday…its the yankees, $10 million is NOTHING…plus…ITS DEREK JETER!!! he’ll be on the bench providing knowledge.
What a waste of cash. Please high-ball Cliff Lee too and lock up even more money on the NYY starting rotation.
And then you’ll cry because the Yankees could afford it anyway.
Sad but true … unless you are the owner of one of the cheapskate small market teams, then you will love the *beep, beep, beep* as they back the truck full of luxury tax money up to your vault.
Jeter is the face of the franchise. The word Jeter is synonymous to the Yankees and vise-versa. He fills the seats, brings in endorsements and ofcourse merchandise sales. All that money brought by him is far far more than 15M per year offered to him. Does he deserve it as a player? No. Does he deserve it as a potential investment? Hell yes..its a business after all and the Yankees don’t want to lose their prized asset.
What the hell are you all talking about.. Jeter is more than adequate at short, he’s the captain, the clean image of the team, a leader, a hall of fame certainty and should play for at least three years a a “good” price and then manage the team.
Obviously few Yankee faithful above. Just a bunch of wannabe Yankee fans.
Go to Boston.
I think that deal is the highest cashman should go. we can’t keep over paYing players just for the hell of it. also am i the only Yanks fan who wouldn’t give a crap if he leaves to another team? i might miss his image and all that stuff but his performance this past few Yrs ? hell no ! and his ”elite” performance is something hes not getting back. You ppl are way to afraid of changes and Jeter has to leave sooner or later whether is as free agent or retirement and then what ? every Yankee fan is gonna stop being a fan ? Just let go people i want the best for my team and Jeter for the next 4 Years is not gonna be it.
Ok, most of you hate the yankees anyway, so blah, blah, blah. Derek Jeter is an icon, not just for the yankees, but for the entire sport of professional baseball. He’s one of a dwindling few who have not succumbed to performance enhancing drugs and steriods. He exudes class on and off the field. He’s the 2nd comming of the “Pride of the Yankees”. Pay the man and move on. The PR the team will get will more than cover whatever they give him. Is he worth it from a performance perspective? Probably not, but if DJ rubs of on even one rookie, it would be wothwhile. He may even surprise us and hit 300 one more time, and he won’t embarass himself at SS either.
And for all of those things…all of those admittedly great things…hes been paid royally. Over 200 million so far. He will very likely get a lifetime contract with the organization when he retires and goes into the HOF.
There will be a compromise here…the Yankees overpaying for their “face” and they will look good in doing so. But generosity and gratitude only go so far. They still have a business to run and throwing away millions of dollars can only be done so long.
My guess….4 years 65 million…and thats WAY..WAY..more than hes worth ..both as a player and as an icon
I wouldn’t give him more than 3 years…
if he rejects this… up it to like 3 year/52…
and let him walk…
I know it’s insulting, but this is ridiculous…
no one will pay him more anyways
Jeter is never going to be the player that has made a household name—his age has caught up. However, many major league players are overpaid—Jeter is a big draw and the Yanks need that and Jeter needs the Yanks to go out in style—they’ll meet in the middle and have a future triple A star sit while Jete rides out into the sunset, loaded with $$$—winning is secondary people, paying for that stadium is primary. Half the chicks in the Stadium are wearing Jeter shirts…and paying for the seats…please don’t bring the Red Sox into this—they’re on their way to another 100 years of garbage—BTW: UPTON FOR JETER WOULD BE GREAT FOR THE YANKS, EVEN WITH SOME CASH THROWN IN.
So then the chicks in the stadium would turn their shirt inside out and it becomes an Upton shirt? And Upton would fill the seats just as well as Jeter? Kinda defeats the srgument youre trying to make
All of a sudden paying for the stadium is secondary if you could ship an over the hill shortstop for a young stud outfielder…lol.
You’re obviously not too sharp. Did I say the Yanks would actually make that trade?…it would be good for the team, but they would never do it. Jeter will pay for the stadium and a lot of chicks wouldn’t come to the game if he’s not there…damn right. My point was that they(the ownership and Jeter) need each other, the winning is great but secondary. Upton would never be the ‘legend’ that Jeter is perceived to be, never. He’s not a dyed in the wool pin-striper. Yeah, they come to see A-Rod and they came to see Clemens, etc., but there’s only one Jeter, period. That’s why A-rod plays third and is/ was a better shortstop than Jeter. Jeter’s a made Yankee, special treatment, the works. Wake up rookie. He stays, gets his loot, fills the seats and knowing his a**, might just shut us all up and come through with a big year. Watch…
Now go bother somebody else and get some of your own ideas up.
Jeter is never going to be the player that has made a household name—his age has caught up. However, many major league players are overpaid—Jeter is a big draw and the Yanks need that and Jeter needs the Yanks to go out in style—they’ll meet in the middle and have a future triple A star sit while Jete rides out into the sunset, loaded with $$$—winning is secondary people, paying for that stadium is primary. Half the chicks in the Stadium are wearing Jeter shirts…and paying for the seats…please don’t bring the Red Sox into this—they’re on their way to another 100 years of garbage—BTW: UPTON FOR JETER WOULD BE GREAT FOR THE YANKS, EVEN WITH SOME CASH THROWN IN.
Listening to people defend this potential deal (and inevitably vast overpayment) with statements like “he’ll make them at least that much in merchandise, tix, etc” and “the PR they receive alone will be worth it” is hilarious. If you’re going to say things like that, you HAVE to have numbers to back it up. Otherwise, it’s pretty clear you’re just making an assumption.
It be wise for him to take it. I doubt the Yankees would do so, but they could very easily tell him he’s gone if he doesn’t take this deal. Take the money Jeter.
He might as well take it, I really do hope they put their foot down on this one. If Jeter doesn’t like it, walk. I wouldn’t mind seeing him play somewhere else and yes I agree he is the “face of the franchise”, but that face is bound to change sometime so why not in 2011.
watch some other team swoop in and offer like 4 years, 19mil per year… hahahahahaha…. just to see the pickle it presents!!! haha then if the yankees dont increase we will see if “EL CAPITANNN” is really a team player or a money sniffer like everyone else!
The Yankees should trade for Scutaro…lol
I don’t think Jeter realizes that he needs the Yankees more than the Yankees need him. I think this could also be the starting point where, at least for me, a lot of people start losing respect for Derek Jeter if he turns this offer down and demands more money. We all know he’s had a great career, but he’s more than definitely not worth $15MM for the next three years. I really hope he takes this offer and that’s the end of it. The Jeter-New York soap opera is going to get really old, really fast.
Mister Jeter, take that contract and run,
no one would report you to the police for being a thief.
As a Yankees supporter i want us to keep our captain,
but not vastly overpay for him, during the years he was great and in his prime where he helped us win numerous titles, he was well compensated for it, so 3/45 is something Jeter should take.
Yanks knew they would overpay and it’s to no surprise. 3/$45 is actually not bad considering the situation. It’s saves about $6 mil per and I’m 90% sure this will be his last deal as a Yankee SS. If he’s resigned after this deal then something else dramatic has happened.
One more thing…I know Jeter has been great for the Yankees but when people say hes the greatest Yankee ever…I just dont see it. When I think of Yankee greats, Jeter isnt in the top 5 for sure and barely makes the top 10. Longevity has helped him but if you ask any baseball fan over 30 years old who is the greatest Yankee ever, Id say that Jeter rarely is mentioned. Im not saying he hasnt had a great career. To me, hes no Babe…or Mick…or DiMaggio.
Lastly…Im asking here..who was the last “face of the franchise” who was grossly overpaid to stay with any club for 4-5 years past their prime? Most clubs try to work something out but the reality is that overpaying isnt good business and gratitude is a 2 way street. I cant recall any player demanding this kind of “appreciation” from their employer and expecting to get it.
Anyone think of one?
Babe, Mick, Joe D, Gehrig, Berra…..? Is there anyone else I’m missing? Any other greater Yankee in the last 40 years? He’s better that Mattingly, Jackson, Guidry, Winfield, Henderson and BW.
Rizzuto in the top 5 maybe?
Maybe his personality but not in his play. He’s more revered as a longtime radio personality than he was a player. He was voted into the HOF by the Vets because he was well liked and was a good SS on some great teams.
I just saw the 7 times WS champ and AL MVP award and the comment that Ted Williams thought that the Sox would have won a lot of WS if they had had Rizzuto playing SS. My second guess was going to be Maris but that seems pretty weak.
You never saw Whitey pitch. He is the most under rated Yankees HOFer, if there is such a thing.
How about David Cone, Jason Varitek, Mike Piazza, Mike Hampton, etc etc. These guys all hung around too long and demanded big bucks. Johnny Damon would of been worth the $ Detroit paid him, but the yankees and most of you thought he was done. The list could go on forever. Nobody remembers Jeter giving the rookie SS instructions last summer, on how to handle himself. DJ will make an impact on young players, and will be a generally a good influence to the rest of the team.
For all you Yankee fans who say the Yankees are underpaying Jeter, would you rather the Yankees overpay him (more so than this contract already does) and lose out on C.Lee? Please I would like to hear your answer to that.
Regardless of what everyone wants to think, the Yankees do have an operating budget that they wont go above, even if it is ~210mil. They cant just keep overpaying their players… They already made the mistake with Arod, and just because there is some history between Arod and Jeter, doesn’t mean they have to make the same mistake with Jeter.
Haha…who’s saying that Jeter would be underpaid at $15 mil per?
Jeter :]
For a declining old SS who can’t hit YES $15 Mill is WAY to much
I think you meant who COULDN’T hit this year. We shall wait and see. Remember, everyone said he was done in 2008 and look what happened one year later.Now I don’t expect him to have another year like that again, but don’t be surprised if he bats .300 next year.
I think you misread what I wrote.
They also raised tickets for 2011.
They also raised tickets for 2011.
3 years for 15 mil. is about right. Any more money will reduce the ability to pay for other talent the Yankees will certainly need on the team. Any more than 3 years is committing to a 40 year old shortstop.
Who says this has to be Jeter’s last contract? If he plays well he gets another contract at age 39 too. There is also the possibility of incentives in lieu of guaranteed salary, which no one seems to be mentioning.
What other 36-yr old short stop, hitting .260, with limited range, is/has ever earned $10M/yr on a multi-year contract in MLB?
Edgar Renteria pretty closely matches that description.
Close…but Edgar is 34… and w/o a contract for 2011
Â
baseball-reference.com/players/r/renteed01.shtml
Edgar’s contract paid for itself in his last game of the deal.
Jeter should take 3 years $30 million and thats still WAY to high for an old declining SS
i no longer respect the Yankees saying they always try to put the best possible team on the field…by offering Jeter 3 years they are basically saying that although many better players may become available via reasonable trade or free agency in the near future…they would rather keep a declining player because of what he did in the past…This is b*ll S*!t…I don’t believe Cashman made this offer on his own…he seems more logical than this…no team in baseball would make an offer of this many years and this much money…it’s stupid
I just don’t see what makes Jeter so “special” in everyone’s eyes. I am not saying he is a bad player by any means but lets get serious. I personally think Jeter is one of the luckiest players to ever play in MLB. If Jeter plays on any other team no way does he make the money, get the endorsements or fame he gets with the Yankees. There is probably no way he ends up a world champ.All of this talk as a lock to make the hall of fame is probably warranted but nowhere else would this have been possible. I believe the fans and the media have created all of this “leader” BS out of nothing. Just because a guy does what he is “supposed” to, not take ‘roids and show up to work everyday he is all the sudden so great? Did Jeter make the most of his opportunity? Yes. But my counter is that he was playing average/above average ball his whole career and was lucky enough to end up on the most popular and successful professional sports team in the world. Please spare the comments about the Yankees needing him so badly. Jeter is who he is BECAUSE of the Yankees, not the other way around. The Yanks dumped Mattingly and ended up with Martinez. People will get over it. No way should the Yankees pay up just for the sake of doing so. If they can get Jeter at the right price, fine, but the sport is a business. Put the resources to better use to make your club better.
A very fair offer and of course no chance it will be accepted.there is no way the Yankees can go three years from now with a left side of the infield of a declining Jeter and Rodriguez.
Wouldn’t it be nice if Derek settled down with Minka, accepted the three year deal and showed what a classy individual he really is.If you believe this will happen,you probably believe in the tooth fairy and Santa Claus also.
I wonder what they’d end up paying him if the Boss was still around…
Regardless, Jeter will retire a Yankee; it’s in his blood. People need to realize the intangibles that he brings to the field and the clubhouse.
Not $ 15 million worth of intangibles. Jeter hit less than Johnny Damon in 2010, and he was well below average in the field. He wouldn’t get $ 15 million from any other team. What he gets from the Yankees will be pure generosity.
I don’t think Jeter is worth that much, not with the horrible season he just had. If I were the Yankees I would make this a final offer and dare him to find something better with another team… becasue he won’t.
Jeter is going to have to make a choice to what is more important: years or money?
3/63???? Wtf
Fair deal. 15 M a year is about 8 M more than he’d get on the open market.
Jeter should get a 4 year deal for guaranteed 60 Million. He has done enough for the Yankees, will continue to be a draw and the same way their talking about maybe bringing back Lou Pinella,they’ll find options for Jeter. If in the end they lose some money on Jeters contract it won’t be the first time they lost money only this time it would be for someone that desrves the money. Jeter will probably be a long time member of the Yankees way past his playing days. Every player should be the positive representative for their team as Jeter was.The ” What have you done for me lately ” I think is the wrong approach to take with the Yankee Captain. When you talk a waste of money for the Yankees I think there is other directions you could be looking. Joe Girardi hasn’t exactly been worth his weight in gold, nor has AJ this past season. But, what if AJ turns it around and wins 25 games in 2011, then I gues 2010 will be forgotten and AJ will be worth everything he’s getting paid. The truth of the matter is they’re all being OVER PAID to play a game that has unfortunately turned into a business. Martin,Mickey & Roger was be turning upside down in their graves seeing what these guys are making today. That’s a lot of more rounds those guy’s could have had. Cheers to all !!!