Angels owner Arte Moreno says he plans to spend aggressively to send his team back to the postseason. Moreno told Bill Plaschke of the LA Times that he dislikes losing and will do everything he can to improve the Angels.
"We know where our weaknesses are, we know where we are thin, we know where we have to go to market," Moreno said. "It's going to cost money, but our fans need to know what we're committed to winning."
Moreno said he hopes to sign an outfielder who creates runs. Carl Crawford and Jayson Werth, who are both free agents this winter, are potential targets for the Angels. Both will likely be expensive, but Moreno said he’s prepared to complement homegrown players like Jered Weaver with free agents.
"Championship teams develop their players like we have, we know that," Moreno said. "But sometimes when the prospects aren't there, you have to bridge that area, and I'm willing to do that."
GM Tony Reagins may pursue relievers, third basemen and outfielders this offseason as the Angels look to return to their winning ways. The team finished below .500 (80-82) for the first time since 2003 and missed the playoffs for the first time since 2006. It has been apparent for weeks that the Angels will be able to spend and it now seems like Reagins will have the flexibility to bid on whichever free agents fit the Angels' needs best.
Obvious fits the Halos would be Crawford, Beltre, and Soriano. But that is a boat load of money to shell out. If I were the Angels, I’d focus on fixing the bullpen and bringing in a rotation arm if necessary. Pitching has always been the key ingredient in there many years of winning. When their pitching goes south, you get a year like this one. I guess after the arms, I’d look at trying to nab Crawford. His athleticism is fits with what the Angels try to do. While I think Beltre is a great fit for the Halos, I don’t think he is the consistent offensive force that Crawford can be (Crawford can create more runs with his speed even if he has less power). That and I don’t buy Beltre continuing to produce to the same level as he has this year. But I really feel that pitching is the key for the Angels and needs to be the first priority. The Angels already have a lot of parts to build their offense around, though alot depends on Kendry’s recovery. They don’t need to prioritizing signing more parts (there really isn’t a traditional offensive difference maker on the market) until other needs are addressed.
I agree with you that the first need is to clean up the pitching. A Bleacher report article floated the idea of a Napoli for Gavin Floyd trade. Floyd is under team control for 2 more years and the White Sox need both power and a C as Pierzinski is a FA and aging quickly (despite an excellent last 2 months). Adding a starter would allow the Angels to move Kazmir to the bullpen to shore up middle relief. Soriano would be an awesome acquisition, however, I believe the real money needs to be spent to improve the rapidly aging outfield-Rivera no longer has a place on this team and Willits (as much as I love his Eckstein like hustle) is not a long term answer. A corner infielder to complement Hunter and Bourjos allows Abreu to finish out his contract as a DH.
Floyd seems like way too much to give up for Napoli. The White Sox would be better off going hard after Victor in free agency, bringing back AJ, or just giving the job to Tyler Flowers.
Agree the Angels need some pitching help. Lee would be nice….but a guy like Westbrook or Pavano would also make sense.
If I’m the Rays…I’m praying that the Angels don’t sign Crawford. Angels’ pick is protected, so the Rays would only get a middlish 2nd rounder instead of a 1st round pick (in addition to their sandwich pick). That would be a big blow to a small market club.
Crawford makes a lot of sense for the Angels too. Great fit in for Scocisia and his style of ball. Beltre also makes a to of sense though…..so maybe they focus on him more.
dont forget the Rays have Soriano as a type A as well, even higher than Crawford
But Beltre only stars(offensively that is) on free agent years..
This is a huge double edged sword.
Just spending for spending sakes would be a big mistake. While it might placate casual fans initially, you dig yourself a big hole from whence it is difficult to emerge (see GMJ).
The Angels problems this year were not massive holes (although Wood certainly didn’t help at 3rd). Instead, the team took a major step backwards in performance. And it wasn’t just one or two guys. Across the board EVERYONE in the lineup underperformed. The question is whether everyone is really just that bad or if this was simply a season where the team collectively played poorly.
If you think the 2010 Angels squad represents their true talent level then the team has major problems at 2B, SS, 3B, LF, and the bullpen. Bringing in just Crawford/Werth + Soriano won’t fix anything. You jack up payroll $30m to net out an additional 6 wins or so.
On the other hand, if the true talent level is more like the team’s 09 levels then you don’t need to bring in anyone. That’s a team that almost won 100 games and is largely the same as it is today. Going with this model you don’t overspend because you don’t “need” anyone. If a smart signing presents itself you do it. Otherwise you rely on the talent that is on the team.
Finally, 2011 is going to have a high payroll whether any big names are signed. However, in 2012 the payroll drops dramatically. In 2013 it’s next to nothing. So, the team could go in the hole in 2011 knowing that they could recoup some of the extra spending the following year.
The thing is, an additional 6 wins could very easily win the West for the Angels next season. Rangers could be in for a dropoff if Lee leaves and they’re not able to replace him. Can Wilson repeat this year? Can Hamilton stay healthy?
Lots of questions in Texas. Mariners are way too far away. A’s….same, good pitching, but offense is not ready.
I agree, dont’ spend money for the sake of spending money…..but adding a Crawford and Soriano could be more than enough to get the Angels back to the playoffs.
Lee was only worth 1.6 WAR since coming to Texas. Injuries to Kinsler, Cruz, and Hamilton were significant and the Rangers still won the West by a wide margin. Even if Lee was not brought back next year and the Angels signed Crawford, I would still bet the Rangers take the west next year (although it would a much closer race). I’m betting Derek Holland will be a solid #3 starter next year. A Wilson, Lewis, Holland, Hunter rotation would be solid despite the loss of Lee.
no chance..
and not cause i dont like the rangers..
there not going to be able to afford the roster that they were blessed…yes blessed with this year…
i dont have numerical facts so I guess Im going to have to leave this at that…but unless they have a huge payroll increase because of good ol nolan…fat chance
no chance..
and not cause i dont like the rangers..
there not going to be able to afford the roster that they were blessed…yes blessed with this year…
i dont have numerical facts so I guess Im going to have to leave this at that…but unless they have a huge payroll increase because of good ol nolan…fat chance
I agree that you don’t just spend money. I think they need to address their weaknesses at 3b and of. But I think the bigger need lies on the mound. Haren, Weaver, Pineiro, and Santana are a solid rotation, they don’t need a big name, high salary signing. The bullpen is a mess. They have some promising arms that could develop into meaningful roles, but do you want to bet on it at this time? Pick up a closer, shift Rodney back to set up, and pick up another decent veteran reliever.
Offensively, they are a bunch of complimentary parts without a center piece player when Kendry is out. If Kendry can return to his 09 form, they can get by. I agree that they need more youth and athleticism in the outfield. Crawford would be ideal, but realistically, he’ll be too expensive for not being a big time run producer. I don’t trust Werth to keep similar production and health in a different lineup. I’m not sure what younger outfielders are available on the market, but I’m sure the Halos can find a cheaper but productive alternative. 3b is a concern and the only real upgrade on the market is Beltre. He’s going to get more money than he deserves, but he does fit with the athleticism/defense model that the Angels build around. I think the Angels can survive with Callapso, Kendrick, Izturis, and Aybar manning short and 2nd. You can find decent DH options fairly cheaply on the market, but why not let Napoli have the position?
Napoli has terrible RISP production; most of his homers were solo shots this year; and the DH slot is going to Abreu, period.
Beltre would be a huge mistake if given anything more than a 1-year deal (although a bad Beltre season would beat what they have now). Crawford is going to be very expensive and isn’t the great fit everyone seems to think he is (they don’t need another table-setter; they need someone to drive in runs). That makes Werth the most likely FA target.
The Angels MIGHT sign Soriano (or more likely Downs or Putz), but historically their best relievers have been homegrown, and they’ve often gone with inexperienced closers with the right tools (Harvey, K-Rod, etc). Whether they go with homegrown talent (Walden, Kohn) or sign a reliever, Rodney’s closing days are behind him.
Sorry, forgot of Abreu. Knowing that Nap isn’t so hot behind the plate and the Angels’ emphasis on defense, he’ll be traded.
I somewhat disagree with you on Crawford. He wants to be a number 3 hitter. He might not hit more than 20 hr’s, but I can see him knocking 90-100 rbi’s if he’s taken out of the leadoff conversation. But even if he is the table setter, he’s a million times better than the leadoff hitters the Halos already have. However, you should never pay big time bucks for a leadoff hitter. The kind of money he’s looking for is reserved for the upper echelon run producers, which Crawford does not have the skills to be. I like him as a piece of the puzzle, but I don’t like him as the person to build a lineup around.
Belte is only a huge mistake if they give him huge money over more than 3 years. Teams can absorb a 3 year bad contract, but longer mistakes can cripple the payroll. Otherwise, its just a gamble. He’s not going to hit 25 hr and drive in 100 runs on a team outside of Boston. But 18-20 hr and 90 RBI is pretty solid, especially considering there are no better alternatives out there.
i agree with the rodney statement…hes done…get rid of him
This is the problem with the team.
It looks like the Angels have several very good arms in the bullpen – Walden, Kohn, Thompson. Jepsen was nearly unhittable last year. While Bulger turned in a great 2nd half. It could very well turn out that the Angels have a great bullpen now. Signing another $10m/year reliever or even a mid-range guy could turn out to be an awful use of resources.
On the other hand, the guys mentioned above could all regress (like Bulger and Jepsen did this year). If you stand pat you could be kicking yourself in 2011 (just like you did in 2010) for not doing more with the bullpen.
For me the Angels remain a team of huge question marks. If the 09 version of the squad shows up then you don’t have much to do other than shore up 3rd base. If the ’10 squad returns then you have way too many holes to fill via just FA.
BTW – if Abreu isn’t traded I’m going to be pissed. Having a DH earning $9m/year while posting an OPS under 800 isn’t what I’m looking for. It also ensures that his ’11 option vests and it means yet another year with a subpar bat, in a premium position, earning top dollar.
The 2010 Angels were 13th in the AL with a .298 On-Base Pct. with nobody on base.
The reason the Angels didn’t drive in runs in 2010 is because they had no table setting.
The Yankees aren’t much better with RISP. NY is either manufacturing Runs with Walks, Steals, Sacrifices, and/or Homeruns; they don’t really hit many Singles or Doubles with RISP.
The only thing the Halos did w/ RISP in 2010 was hit Homeruns. Notice how most of their wins in the second half came when the offense launched a few out of the park. Lots of solo Homeruns is a big reason why Abreu and Hunter didn’t drive in 100.
So, why would the Halos need another big bat if they have 7 players with double digits in homeruns; including 4 with 20 or more homeruns (5 with Morales). If you go for a big bat, it HAS to be the franchise center piece while still getting that table setter to make sure 100 RBI doesn’t turn into 80 RBI, which (once again) is exactly what happened to Abreu and Hunter; and is likely what would have happened to someone like Adam Dunn if that big bat had arrived in July despite lacking that table setting.
In order to score w/ RISP, you have to create enough RBI opportunities.
The Halos didn’t create enough opportunities because they didn’t get on enough, didn’t steal enough, didn’t move the runners enough, didn’t sacrifice enough, and therefore forced just about every Halo to try to do too much to keep the team from being shut down, which is exactly what happened as a result.
Rickey Henderson is a Hall of Famer, therefore he can be considered a franchise player. Rickey was a leadoff hitter. That franchise bat we need may exist in a player that can be inserted in the top of the lineup and can spark this lineup into reaching their 2009 form, or even better.
“I’m not sure what younger outfielders are available on the market, but I’m sure the Halos can find a cheaper but productive alternative.”
David DeJesus
i was so stoked on rodney..
now he makes my heart beat too fast
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wheres my meds…lol
i was so stoked on rodney..
now he makes my heart beat too fast
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wheres my meds…lol
I wish Lew Wolff felt this way about his team.
trade for bell from SD,what’s your offer we need prospects.
rathman53, I was thinking the SAME thing. Must be nice to have an owner who actually puts winning above real estate.
damn right, that’s why we angels fans love arte. too bad our gm isn’t smart enough…
Stop bashing pretty Tony. We stole Dan Haren, got Matsui on a 1 year deal. Yes we should have got more for Fuentes and Abreu deal was an emotional signing, but he is doing pretty well.
Why are people so down on Tony Reagins, it’s not his fault, he hasn’t made any huge mistakes, he got Teixera for pretty much nothing (Kotchman is about to be non tendered), He got Haren for a struggling Saunders, Kazmir has under performed but was worth the risk. Look at the year Lackey and Figgins have had and let them go. Get off his back, he wasn’t the one who signed Gary Matthews.
I’m going to call it: Angels will sign Crawford (5 years), Beltre (3 years) and Downs (2 years). Mike Napoli and Rivera will be traded for prospects and to unload payroll. The Angels trade Izturis/Aybar, Bell, Trumbo, and a prospect for Heath Bell.Some of these signings (and lengths) I do not like, but I believe this is what the team needs and what Reagins and Moreno will end up doing. Dont’ get me wrong, a team with these players is set to reach the playoffs next year. I just hope they make smart decisions, go Angels.
The Bell trade, im not sure the Angels will want to give up Trumbo or Aybar/Izzy. I love Izturis, but he is hurt way too often. I think SD would want maybe like a Jepsen for bullpen help as well.
I agree with what you say, but if the moment is right I think the Angels will move these players. With K-Mo coming back (and if the Halos sign either Werth or Crawford) Trumbo will have no playing time at all at 1st or the outfield, I see him basically as a trade chip. Remember the Angels were willing to move Aybar in a potential trade for Halladay, maybe Bell doesn’t compare, but I think the Angels desperately need bullpen help more than in the infield, they could do without either Izzy or Aybar.
I would move Izzy, but im not sure with his injury history that SD would want him.
I see your point with Trumbo, and I’ve thought that myself, too… he’s clearly blocked at 1B when Kendry comes back, and with an OF of Hunter/Bourjos/Crawford or whoever next year, not to mention Willits on the bench, he’s blocked there, too. Plus, he’s 24 already, so the clock is ticking… I just think that, as the Angels best power hitting prospect, if he IS traded, it should be for something more than one year of a closer. I don’t know, see if you can package him for David Wright, Jose Reyes, or even Ryan Braun…
Plus, if they don’t trade him, wouldn’t it be nice to know that he’s an option in the event of an injury like Kendry had this year?
I would actually much prefer to have Wright than Beltre at 3B; he is younger, he is also a gold glover, and way more consistent than Beltre. I really wish Reagins would smarten up and work this trade out. The problem is Wright is under team control until 2013, so the Mets are gonna ask for a lot, maybe more than the Angels would want to give up. His salary is also high for 2011 at $14.25M. I’ll keep my fingers crossed.Trumbo would be a nice option, but I’d rather trade him and pray to God that K-Mo doesn’t get injured again. I’m a man of faith.
id like to see Wright come to Anaheim, but what about Trumbo + Aybar + others for Reyes? gives the Angels the leadoff hitter they need
Izturis, Bell, and Trumbo, you say? That’s way too much to give up for one year of a bullpen arm, even if it is Bell. I was actually thinking about trading Napoli for Bell, straight up. The Padres need offense, and have plenty of able bullpen arms besides Bell. They put Napoli at C in 2011, and he can also provide insurance at 1B in case they can’t sign Gonzalez to an extension. The nice thing about this trade is that after arbitration, both guys will probably be looking at similar salaries, so it won’t be much of a bump for either team.
It might be a bit much, but I think the Padres will ask for that type of package, they don’t necessarily have to trade Bell, they’re just exploring options. Napoli straight up would be nice, but wouldn’t you rather replenish the farm system with players than a year of Bell? I guess there will be some sacrifice with both of these options.
What about Jepsen and Izturis for Bell? Kohn and Walden could be adequate replacements for Jepsen’s spot.
I think getting Bell for Jepsen and Izturis would be a steal…I’d be down with that trade, IF it could happen.
AHHH!!!! You woudnt get Trevor bell for Heath Bell! That is beyond insane.
No way Aybar is moved for Bell.
I could easily see Izturis, Trumbo, and possibly Rivera … but then the Pads are taking on salary – something they don’t want to do. In dealing with a team like the Pads the whole key is send them players who don’t earn anything.
Everyone is making it seem like Crawford to the Angels is a done deal but I won’t be happy until I see the press conference. A couple of years ago it seemed like Teixeira was going to be a Halo for a long time until the Yanks swooped. I’m afraid the same thing might happen this winter. Is Moreno ready to outbid NY to keep the fans happy?
The Yankees will be busy going after Lee and they also have other payroll concerns. Though it may not seem like it, the Yankees payroll isn’t infinite. I think it’ll come down between who feels more forced to sign Crawford, the Angels or the Red Sox. I think it’ll be the Angels.
The difference with Texeira was that after the fact, it seemed pretty obvious he was never intent on living on the West Coast. I kind of suspected that from the beginning… Angels never had a chance, unless they wanted to offer him something ridiculous, like 200 mil… Texeira wanted the East Coast.
tex. can suck a nut!!! i hate that guy
Yeah I don’t see the Yanks grabbing Crawford personally. So he replaces Gardner….ok. They really weren’t that far off as far as overall impact this year. I actually think the Yanks will look at the money they have to shell out for Crawford and decide it’s not worth it. Not enough of an upgrade in LF to really justify the deal. But you never know with the Yanks.
Top 3 contenders IMO for Crawford are the Tigers, Reds, and Angels. Both have money, and both have huge needs. If the Dodgers are able to free up some cash, maybe they can get in on him too.
Boston is a possibility for Crawford….but they could use some more pop in that lineup over another 2-3 guy. Werth makes more sense to me as he can play RF as well and let Drew DH more to help keep him healthy.
the yankees first option is going to be Lee not crawford
Bell for Wood and Rivera and Angels pay 1/2 salary of Rivera.
33 year old relief pitchers are a huge risk given the limited innings they pitch and their history to fluctuate. Rivera w/salary paid is a good deal for bell.
You can’t be serious. First of all, I can’t believe you are reluctant to give up Wood and his .382 OPS over a pretty good sample size of 243 PA’s. And Rivera is not the type of return the Padres would be willing to consider trading one of top 5 closers in the game for, even his salary is paid in full. The Padres will be looking for young, cost-controlled players if they were to shop Bell, not an under-performing corner outfielder with no speed. Also, Bell has been the model of consistency over the past four seasons. He hasn’t shown any signs of slowing down over the next couple years.
It’s pretty clear that we haven’t see the real Brandon Wood yet. Players just don’t go from mashing throughout the entire minor leagues to being the worst player of all time. Something is wrong with Wood. He has the talent – there is no doubt about it. The only question is whether someone can fix the mental/physical problems that are plaguing him.
However, if you do that deal you are essentially trading Wood + Rivera + $3m for Belle and his soon to be $8m salary. Are you really better off going that route or paying Soriano $10m and keeping Rivera and Wood for other moves?
That was not my point, though. My point is that the Padres won’t be interested in Rivera alone (even with salary paid) in exchange for Bell. Even though he is expensive, Bell still has positive trade value. Rivera has zero, if not negative, trade value. And even though Wood has talent, the reality is that he will be 26 starting next season, have had the worst season he could possibly have, have spent virtually 4 years at AAA and shown in his only stint at the major league level that he can’t handle it. I just believe that, if they decide to deal Bell, the Padres will find a much better return on the trade market than what amounts to two Angels castoffs.
That was not my point, though. My point is that the Padres won’t be interested in Rivera alone (even with salary paid) in exchange for Bell. Even though he is expensive, Bell still has positive trade value. Rivera has zero, if not negative, trade value. And even though Wood has talent, the reality is that he will be 26 starting next season, have had the worst season he could possibly have, have spent virtually 4 years at AAA and shown in his only stint at the major league level that he can’t handle it. I just believe that, if they decide to deal Bell, the Padres will find a much better return on the trade market than what amounts to two Angels castoffs.
Don’t be surprised to see Werth re-sign with Philly. Don forget Ibanez is 38 & may not have a lot left in the tank. To pay a guy $12 mil a year who might as well be on the decline is a big risk to take. Get what you can for him, that frees up nearly enough money to bring back Werth. Imagine an O.F. of Werth/Victorino/Brown. Thats a lot of power coming from your O.F. alone.
Angels should try to get Soria from KC.
Speaking of the Angels… I just noticed something.
Mike Trout
Tim Salmon
King Fish!
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!
I’m not sold on Beltre for more than 3 years/33 mil, anymore is gonna end up being a bad contract, maybe a 4 years/45 Million (4th year not guaranteed)
As an Angel fan, I DO NOT want to sign another free agent reliever unless it is Soriano. He has consistently been solid. We keep dumping cash on these relievers and they never pan out. I did like the Fuentes and Rodney signings at the time but they never became dominant.
I’d take my chances with Walden, Kohn, Palmer, Jepsen, Bulger, and Rodney. If we really needed a Lefty specialist, we could try out Daniel Davidson that’s in AAA. We have 4 dominant starters that will take us deep into games, so it’s not worth dropping 5-9 million for a middle reliever. Seriously.
although i agree, i would mind the angels getting a lefty reliever (Downs, Beimel, Choate?). they have none and i think need one
solution for the Angels:
first is sign an OF ( crawford,werth, and maybe if we loose both dunn)
Then trade napoli, rivera, trumbo, trevor bell and maybe even kendrick, because if you look at callaspo he is the same player as kendrick and can play 2b, and put a package together to get wright and if you cant, then trade rivera and napoli and maybe even willits for prospects and relievers.
sign soriano to make bullpen insane and have the young arm in their too because they have already looked good ( jordan walden and michael kohn)
guarantee a alcs and i say not world series because you never know what can happen but have a very good chance.
I say all this too because the Angels are a lucky team to have Moreno, because he can with a snap of his fingers spend tons of money and do trades to get a world champion team
Kendrick is not the same player as Callaspo. First off Callaspo can play 3rd and is a switch hitter. Second, Callaspo is SLOW, one of the slowest 2b ive ever seen. Plus the last month Callaspo has been absolutely terrible.
Im just glad they arent feeding us the same bull they have been the last couple offseasons that the Angels think they have enough pieces to be good enough without having to bring in outside help…. this should be an exciting offseason for us Angels fans!!
what 3rd base options are there other than adrian beltre? this season is such a fluke and he will be hurt in no time
I think the Angels will look hard at trading for RP Heath Bell and a quality 3B. Napoli, Rivera, Kendrick, Mathis, Izturis, T. Bell, and Trumbo will all be trade chips. Sign Crawford to play LF. Stay with Burgous in CF to bat leadoff. Hunter in RF. This will be a exciting offseason.
why not get paul konerko? as a back up first basemen and a dh for bobby abreu and days off and stuff like that.he had another great season,especially if we want offensive help.Also i would go for frasor he has a good relief and more innings pitched that can help us.Lets hope crawford comes to the angels i think it will be an upgrade,and speed and his leadoff,erick aybar wasnt good this year and error prone. So i would definitely love to see crawford come.
angels should seek a left handed relief pitcher for that balance in the pen. trade napoli staright up for him who ever he will be.trade erck aybar and a + player for jose reyes who would be in his final yr before free agency; you know what that means! bobby abreu has the best OBP on the team and i really think he could be a great leadoff hitter and lead us to a playoff year. i see bobby capable of a derek jeter type leadoff player. sign crawford and ur money. keep callaspo at third b/c obviously you can make a run with that type of third baseman; remember figgins and his last year with us. if not we won the west by 10 game almost had 100 wins and in my opinion should have bea the yanks in the ALCS. after all is said and done the lineup looks like
Bobby Abreu DH
Jose Reyes SS
Carl Crawford LF
Torii Hunter RF
Kendry Morales 1B
Alberto Callaspo 3B
Howie Kendrick 2B
Bobby Wilson C
Peter Bourjos CF
can we fire regains and hire Mitch Kupchak? Just sayin
The thing Angels fans need to understand is that they are never overly aggressive in free agency and they never spend money just to spend money. Well guess what when you are competing with Boston and the Yankees every year in the AL (with your goal being winning a W.S.) you better start unloading some cash to improve your team. I love Arte, but this is a “put your money where your mouth is” year for him….literally.
Crawford, Beltre, Soriano, …a Napoli trade for a back end rotation guy or a veteran bat. Angels have tons of options and ways to go about improving, but their non aggressive style when it comes to trades and free agent spending needs to stop or they will have callapso hitting third next year with Izzy in the 4 spot and you know the same ole same ole pathetic stuff we saw this year.
I think everyones forgetting about Downs as a lefty specialist, I’d like that move and do almost anything to sign Crawford in leftfield. I like the idea of trading Napoli to the Padres in a deal for Bell and maybe talk a 2-3 year extension with him. Drop Mathis let Conger play and have Wilson backup, trade Izturis/Trumbo/Bell for a solid 3B (McGhee love the guy) and trade Rivera and eat up most of his contract for a prospect who would be great in the bullpen
Just forgot Brewers want pitching Bell and another average prospect
“”We know where our weaknesses are, we know where we are thin, we know where we have to go to market,” Moreno said. “It’s going to cost money, but our fans need to know what we’re committed to winning.”” You freakin Lier!!!!!!!!!