8:35pm: Hernandez tweets that Mattingly's contract to manage the team is for three years. He also had a signed contract before the season that guaranteed him the job if Torre stepped down, according to a second Hernandez tweet.
1:53pm: Joe Torre will announce today that he's stepping down as Dodgers manager after the season, according to Dylan Hernandez of the LA Times. He will be replaced by hitting coach Don Mattingly, who will manage in the Arizona Fall League, but does not yet have professional experience as a manager. Yahoo's Tim Brown also reported the news.
Torre, 70, could consider offers for other managerial openings or retire after a Hall of Fame-caliber career. Torre has a 2318-1990 record over the course of 29 seasons as a big league manager and led his teams to the postseason 14 consecutive times from 1996-2009. One of Hernandez's sources says Torre could keep working in the Dodgers organization.
Dodgers Triple A manager Tim Wallach, who had been considered a possible candidate for the opening, could now become an option for other clubs.
say it ain’t so Joe
Love the move
It’s Donnie Baseball time!
Mattingly! Trim those sideburns!
Wouldn’t that comment go better with the Simpsons post?
can someone explain to me why some dodgers fans want joe torre out? i know that its probably just a minority, but i really don’t see any reason
He doesn’t know how to double switch, our bullpen arms are hanging on by threads, or is it their nike underarmor that’s keeping them in place
There are many examples, but the fact of the matter is this man needs to head out.
But the FO goofs as expected in giving this to Mattingly, this was Wallachs job and I don’t care about what “expectations” were put in place for Don to take over.
The whole staff from the top down needs an overhaul.
2010 has been my sickest as a Dodger Fan. . .
“2010 has been my sickest as a Dodger Fan. . .”
Clearly you weren’t around for ’92.
You can’t possibly tell me that 92 as opposed to 2010 has been worse.
Not only counting on-field stories, i’m talking about EVERYTHING Dodger related, this isn’t the worst you’ve seen this organization ?
I’d love to hear your reasoning
You can’t possibly tell me that 92 as opposed to 2010 has been worse.
Not only counting on-field stories, i’m talking about EVERYTHING Dodger related, this isn’t the worst you’ve seen this organization ?
I’d love to hear your reasoning
2010 is by far worse.
1992:
Cons: Finished dead last in the NL.
Pros: 1992 was the start of 5 ROY’s (Karros, Piazza, Mondesi, Nomo, Hollandsworth) so in other words we knew we had young MLB ready prospects to take over.
2010: record sucks, management sucks, Manager taking over should be Wallach, and we have a depleted farm system.
“2010 has been my sickest as a Dodger Fan. . .”
Clearly you weren’t around for ’92.
Dreifort was the direct result of 1992 right? 🙂
He doesn’t know how to double switch, our bullpen arms are hanging on by threads, or is it their nike underarmor that’s keeping them in place
There are many examples, but the fact of the matter is this man needs to head out.
But the FO goofs as expected in giving this to Mattingly, this was Wallachs job and I don’t care about what “expectations” were put in place for Don to take over.
The whole staff from the top down needs an overhaul.
2010 has been my sickest as a Dodger Fan. . .
Two words:
Bullpen Mismanagement
Two words:
Bullpen Mismanagement
The Cubs must be laughing……..Don’t the Dodgers know, you have to send a potential Manager to Singe A to gain managing experience before just giving them the job. Then after putting the guy through all that, you can still yank their chain and hire someone else. Ha Ha Ha!!!
Yeah, because you’re not supposed to evaluate or look for other, potentially better options, you’re just supposed to hand the guy the job. I guess the Dodgers are the ones doing it right then.
Yeah, because you’re not supposed to evaluate or look for other, potentially better options, you’re just supposed to hand the guy the job. I guess the Dodgers are the ones doing it right then.
Tim Wallach > Don Mattingly
Watch Tim succeed like Mike Sciosca did.
Dodger Nation agrees with this 🙁
Dodger Nation agrees with this 🙁
I know the Dodgers have fallen out of contention, but I don’t get why they don’t just wait until after the season is over to announce this. Just seems like another distraction for the players to deal with at this point. Then again, maybe Torre was just sick of all the rumors and wanted to get it done with.
Personally, I think that if a manager is retiring and his replacement is decided upon and in-house, he should just step aside immediately. Pay the rest of his year’s salary, same as you would if he was still managing. Doesn’t impact your budget at this point.
Even if Torre was the greatest manager in the history of mankind and doing an A+ perfect job right now, is there any reason he should be managing this team as a lame duck with his replacement already picked? Let Mattingly get some experience, manage the team the way he’s going to be managing it next year. Let the players get used to him and his expectations as manager, see what his tendencies are, let him play around with matchups and figure out who he might want in certain situations — for his benefit and the players’.
The Dodgers aren’t in the race and they’re not magically going to get there, so letting Torre play out the year isn’t necessary. They know who his replacement is. So replace him.
Agree, 100%.
Personally, I think that if a manager is retiring and his replacement is decided upon and in-house, he should just step aside immediately. Pay the rest of his year’s salary, same as you would if he was still managing. Doesn’t impact your budget at this point.
Even if Torre was the greatest manager in the history of mankind and doing an A+ perfect job right now, is there any reason he should be managing this team as a lame duck with his replacement already picked? Let Mattingly get some experience, manage the team the way he’s going to be managing it next year. Let the players get used to him and his expectations as manager, see what his tendencies are, let him play around with matchups and figure out who he might want in certain situations — for his benefit and the players’.
The Dodgers aren’t in the race and they’re not magically going to get there, so letting Torre play out the year isn’t necessary. They know who his replacement is. So replace him.
Good for Don Mattingly! Though I like neither the Yanks or Dodgers, Mattingly’s older brother is old friends with my dad. Little Donnie was quite the annoying little brother growing up my dad tells me.
Another former Yankee who decided that managing in the minor leagues was beneath him. I hope it works out better for him than it did Willie Randolph.
EXACTLY !
willie would’ve been much better served getting that experience in the minors. Sad cuz he had such a great foundation with regards to fundamentals. Willie had a ALOT of potential as a manager.
Wow, another Dodger misstep. Mr. Wallach, I wish you continued success wherever you wind up.
Wow, another Dodger misstep. Mr. Wallach, I wish you continued success wherever you wind up.
I don’t mind Torre stepping aside. I think we all expected that. But the Dodgers probably just lost Tim Wallach (minor league manager of the year) to another team. Not again. And why? To bring in someone who’s never managed — for no other obvious reason than it was his turn.
Mike Scioscia Part II coming up very shortly
Care to elaborate?
He’s suggesting Wallach will leave to manage elsewhere and succeed, like Scioscia has. Probably accurate.
Yeah, I guess it made sense for him to repeat what I said as a reply.
Are you implying that you’re the ONLY Dodger fan to feel this way?
That’s funny.
Ah… no. Obviously not. I couldn’t tell what you were referring to for sure.
Yeah, I guess it made sense for him to repeat what I said as a reply.
He’s suggesting Wallach will leave to manage elsewhere and succeed, like Scioscia has. Probably accurate.
Care to elaborate?
Mike Scioscia Part II coming up very shortly
I don’t mind Torre stepping aside. I think we all expected that. But the Dodgers probably just lost Tim Wallach (minor league manager of the year) to another team. Not again. And why? To bring in someone who’s never managed — for no other obvious reason than it was his turn.
Ughhhhh… Wallach is such a better option… stupidity of McCourt and Colletti knows no end… someone force them to sell the team, PLEASE! If we lose Tim Wallach and Logan White, I’m going to be so pissed…
Ughhhhh… Wallach is such a better option… stupidity of McCourt and Colletti knows no end… someone force them to sell the team, PLEASE! If we lose Tim Wallach and Logan White, I’m going to be so pissed…
I’m surprised Mattingly would commit to the Dodgers since the Yankee job is a possibility.
I’m surprised Mattingly would commit to the Dodgers since the Yankee job is a possibility.
you don’t see why because your not a dodger fan. if you knew how many of his boneheaded moves have cost us this year you would know why we want him out if here.
Would be interesting to see him, Pinella, Cox, and possibly even LaRussa all retire in the same year.
i agree with everything you just said, spot on.
i agree with everything you just said, spot on.
Sosh was managing in the Dodgers organization for a few years. They let him walk and, well fast forward to the present.
I thought MLB teams are supposed to interview minority candidates before just anointing someone a job. No?
Interviewing at least one minority would only be in the case of a vacancy. Moreover, his little transition maneuver saved McCourt at least $500-$1000 of not having to buy potential candidates dinner, etc. Brilliance!
Interviewing at least one minority would only be in the case of a vacancy. Moreover, his little transition maneuver saved McCourt at least $500-$1000 of not having to buy potential candidates dinner, etc. Brilliance!
I thought MLB teams are supposed to interview minority candidates before just anointing someone a job. No?
As a Yankee fan I have the up most respect for Donnie Baseball.
Clap clap clap clap clap Donnie Baseball Clap clap clap clap clap…
that is until he manages your team and you don’t win !
that is until he manages your team and you don’t win !
And as a Dodger fan, we only have the same respect for Yehncy Brazoban. We hope he manages in the Bronx someday.
And as a Dodger fan, we only have the same respect for Yehncy Brazoban. We hope he manages in the Bronx someday.
As a Yankee fan I have the up most respect for Donnie Baseball.
Clap clap clap clap clap Donnie Baseball Clap clap clap clap clap…
FAIL!
FAIL!
simply moronic. seriously. offer him bench coach.
i agree with everything you just said, spot on.
i agree with everything you just said, spot on.
This is terrible! BOWA IS COMING BACK AS WELL..
We DO NOT know this. If you’ve read his comments, it doesn’t seem this way.
I bet we see ol’ Joe in a cubbies uni next year… Anyone agree??
… and Torre thought that his years in NY were chaotic.
Willie Randolph has a winning record in the 2 1/2 years he managed. He took an underachieving team in his first year and finished over .500. Took the team to the playoffs in his second year. Had a winning record when he was fired. If Cliff Floyd or Carlos Beltran get a hit instead of taking a called third strike in ’06, he goes to the World Series. What type of experience was he going to get managing in the minors?
Many of those wins were in spite of Randolph. He was not a good manager and could have learned a lot in the minors.
What in your opinion could he have learned in the Minors?
Just divorce your wife McCourt & get rid of the team so fans can rest & relax easily. McCourt, just one of the many boneheaded owners in the game today.
Joe… Girardi?? Oh god yes, we will send Marte and Mitre with you!!! Quick before he messes up P-Hughes’s arm!!
Joe… Girardi?? Oh god YES!! Please take him we will send Mitre and Marte with him too!! Quick before Phil Hughes’s arm is messed up!!!
I don’t see why the Dodgers are just handing Mattingly this post. I could see this if it was the Yankees he was taking over. Mattingly was an amazing player until his back messed him up and was a class act, but that was with the Yankees. What qualifies him as an automatic replacement with a team he has almost no history with? Whereas, Tim Wallach at least played with the Dodgers. This makes no sense unless the ownership really didn’t want to have to go through the regular hiring process.
Also, I don’t think he should be manage until he grows back his late ’80’s mustache!
I was going to say the same thing about the moustache. They should have made that as part of the agreement last Spring.
Torre has destroyed more bullpen pitcher’s arms than I can count.He doesn’t care about their careers. It’s all about St.Joe.Good riddance.
What I find funny is that, he was ridiculed for the same shenanigans in NY, but hindsight is an MFer with the yankee fans who all of a sudden forgot about this problem with him at the helm. Ahh, the perks of being a fan of the Yankees.
Oh well, if anything, i’ve warmed up to the thought of Don taking over. While the nasty taste of Tim not getting a shot will be lingering for some time, all I can hope for is the thought of Mattingly witnessing all of the bonehead decisions that Torre has done and learned exactly what to NOT do.
When you look at it in this angle, there is no better man to take over than Don lol