There’s a good chance Manny Ramirez will be placed on waivers early this week and traded later this month, according to ESPN.com’s Buster Olney. Ramirez, who was not placed on waivers today, according to ESPN.com’s Jayson Stark, would have to approve any trade or waiver claim because he has a full no-trade clause.
About three quarters of Ramirez’s salary is deferred, so he makes just $1.1MM between now and the end of the season despite his hefty $20MM salary. Ramirez earns the remaining $3.4MM in deferred payments, which would presumably make his salary easier to absorb.
The Dodgers are now 8.0 games out of a playoff spot, so they would likely be open to trading Ramirez, who recently returned from the disabled list. The Rays, White Sox and Rangers are among the teams that could have interest in the slugger, though all National League teams would have to let Ramirez through waivers for an American League team to have a shot at him.
i’m going to go with the Giants. They need a boost if they want to overcome the Phillies
Ha ha ha ha ha! Like the Dodgers are ever going to trade Manny to their biggest rival-even if they are hopelessly out of the race.
oh god i didn’t even think of that hahaha yeah not going to happen idk what i was thinking. Giants definitely need him but my next guess would be either the cardinals or reds but i’m not entirely sure if either even need him/can afford him
Would Manny even accept a trade within the NL is the bigger question and the answer is no. He needs to be in the AL.
I heard that they’d be willing to give up Cain for Manny, since they have the pitching….
(snicker snicker).
It’s going to be the Rays.
the penny pinching rays aren’t going to claim manny.
It’s not like he has $10MM on his contract. Theres actually a good shot that this could go down if he is 1. waived, and 2. if he reaches them.
As much as i hate to say this but i wouldn’t be shocked to see him with the rangers. He can go and finish his career there.
Yes, what team wouldn’t want to have both Vlad and Manny on their team at the same time?
I want the Red Sox to claim him in addition to Damon, then bring Schilling out of retirement and dig up Keith Foulke. Just for fun. Dave Roberts isn’t doing anything either. There’s your outfield!
Dave Roberts is actually recovering from cancer
All to be crushed by Beltre and on the DL by Friday.
Don’t worry, Manny will be on the DL before he even meets Beltre in the clubhouse.
Also bring Terry Francona back. Wait.
Damon and Ramirez back to the Red Sox.
that would be must see tv. nbc is already clamoring for the reality show rights.
Manny won’t make it through the NL much less AL team …..In the NL, with Pads/Reds/Braves Phil/Giants/Cards there is really no clear cut favor and if you can take on the 1.1M for a month or so to get you to the WS …Giants need a bat and is my guess where manny will be going…
Not a chance, they will pull him back if thats the case. They will want something back in return.
No way any NL team wants to play him in the field. Too old, too many injuries. He is a DH
He is already part of a NL team… Manny’s bat is worth the injury risk for 1 month. This is a low risk investment, not a high risk multi year deal.
And look how much time he has missed….
And it becomes higher risk if you trade a good prospect for him…
If you trade a high prospect, yes the risk is raised: slightly. Look at what it did for LAD to begin with. The money made in postseason allows for potentially more long term revenue. It’s simple business 101.
Manny misses games more due to attitude then that of actual injury. Put him in a postseason environment in a contract year and you see a different player all together. It’s only a 1 month commitment not a lifetime. If you’re a GM with a chance, you make that deal happen, end of story.
If you think Manny was missing games this year(the exact time you’re describing, contract year) then you are lieing to yourself. And therefore, your second argument makes no sense. Why would he have missed time this year.
For comparison sake, ask Dodger fans how the Casey Blake and George Sherrill deals look now…
Reread my statement and then defend: “Put him in a postseason environment in a contract year and you see a different player all together”.
That being restated, since you are a dodger fan I assume by your name: Did we forget 08 all together? I remember a “cancer” of a player missing games, not hustling, taking phone calls in between innings, dogging it, etc on a certain Boston squad. Seems like he was a different player all together when given a post season environment and change of scenery.
I can defend it that way all I want, bottom line is he is a great hitter with minimal commitment. I’ll say it again, if you’re a GM with a chance, you make that deal happen. End of story.
What’s amazing is we took cancers of Padilla and Manny and they have performed marvelously in LA. I have to wonder if it was more their old teams than them…
Manny performed in 08, that’s it, and that was cheap! Marvelously? Really? For 45m, so far you have gotten beaten in the first round of the playoffs, 27 regular season HR, .301 BA, 1 SB, 99 Total RBI, and horrible defense… Marvelously? I beg to TOTALLY differ.
How’s that for 45mm and some change…
Ship him off and at least get something in return… Which completely defends my argument. At 1.1m after taking the Dodger for 45m, any GM would be all over that to have the Great Manny Ramirez in their lineup for pennies.
Wow, the NLCS is past the NLDS… A playoff run and another had he been healthy, and most GMs wouldve given him 45M.
And you ignored the Manny post trade(when he was a cancer in Boston) where he hit better than the whole Boston team combined…
you got me, i overlooked the NLCS of 09. If that makes 45m easier to swallow then i concede
I disagree that most teams would have given him $45m for 2 years. The Dodgers bid against themselves. There were only a couple teams rumored to even have interest, and the Giants were one of them (likely only to drive up the price). Boras played the Dodgers just like he played the Cardinals into overpaying for Matt Holliday.
Manny’s production over this season and last was probably worth $15m at most. If he had been healthy, maybe he was worth $30m for 2 years. Certainly no more. With 1 year salaries of $25m and $20m, it was idiotic to give him the player option instead of a team option.
The contract probably looks dumb if you don’t remember how it happened. The Dodgers offered 2/45 in Nov, all guaranteed. The market sucked, and they got that deal, except it was now deferred AND only one year was guaranteed. The point is they got their deal on better terms than they expected
If he can finish the season strong with another team he will get someone to take a shot of at least a one year contract. Of course there is always that steroid thing that makes a guy @38 years old hit like a guy @28 years old. Manny may have nothing left in the tank. Whatever the Dodgers save by moving him will be better then keeping him. The Dodgers appear to circling the drain.Not even the mighty Manny can rescue them.
If somebody hit .396/.489/.743 for me, I would sign them to a contract even if it meant not having anybody play left field. There’s no way the Dodger’s could have envisioned his defense becoming this poor.
I don’t know if the Dodgers & Giants have ever traded, but I don’t remember if they had.
Jackie Robinson was traded by the Dodgers to the Giants.. he chose retirement instead.
Tom Haller for Ron Hunt, back in the ’70’s. Dick Dietz claimed off waivers from SF to LA
Candy Maldonado to SF for Alex Trevino to LA in ’85. Basically, nothing earth shattering.
The NL teams have seen him play the field and run the bases this season. Manuel Aristides Ramirez should be a DH for the rest of his MLB career.
That would be interesting for sure. I guess that bat could be worth the gamble at the low-low price of 1.1 mil… I still think the NL teams will take a pass because of his leg issues, but we will see very soon!
Braves have to be some kind of sick and deluded if they let Bobby talk them out of going after Manny at that price. $1.1 mil for one of the most potent offensive threats in the league, for a team that has been struggling since the ASB with leaving runners on base..
Sometimes it seems to me like the organization and fans are content with just making it to the playoffs. They don’t have to win it all, as long as they get there. I’m personally not content with that, and I’m not sure the Braves could beat a team like the Yankees over 7 games. The pitching is great and all, but when you going 2-15 with runners on or whatever atrocious number it is in August, you’re really relying on luck at that point.
LOB% tend to fluctuate and are fairly random. I would be more worried if we weren’t getting guys on base (which we are) or not hitting for a fair amount of power (which we are). If you want something to gripe about lately it is the ammount of errors and defensive miscues that have been fairly rampant. You think Manny is going to help with that?
This is almost like playing roulette. The the team that gambles on Rent-A-Ram could get lucky, and ride on into the playoffs, or they might get a double zero.
::Please let the Yankees claim Ramirez::
No way he gets to NYY. If he gets that far, the Rays will claim him
Niether team might have a chance to get him. He has to go through the NL claims waiver first, and then the worst teams of the AL gets first shot. As far as I know, in the AL, Texas, CHW and Minn has not as good records as either NYY or TB.
that is what I am saying… but there is no way he gets all the way to NYY, IMO
Whos gonna pay the 14 million dollars Manny is owed over the next 2 years?
Dodgers
Well if thats the case then we better get back a top 50 prospect.
I think we get something of value, maybe a guy in AA who is doing alright but is blocked?
A Center Fielder would be nice, Move Kemp to RF and Dre to LF
We need no OFs. We have Sands, Trayvon, Russell, etc. I’d like to try and get a legit 3B prospect…
I still don’t know who I’d take over Kemp in CF long term. Anyone else that people have told me are either old and injured, have had worse years on all fronts than Kemp or have never been as good as Kemp has been. I would like to get Andre in LF eventually
Kemp wasn’t good in CF last year and hes not this year. I said this last year on this site, Kemp takes piss poor routes and will make up the distance with plus speed. His speed is down this year and hes not catching those balls now. But yeah I would love to Trayvon get the job. Kyle Russell is garbage and Sands I hope is legit. He will replace Loney and then Road Loney will be set free.
Yes, Kemp has bad routes to the ball. And yes, he makes up for it with speed. But he isnt slower this year. I dont think it is humanly possible for a guy who spends as much time as Kemp did working out last year to lose speed.
Matt Kemp was one of the best defensive CFs in the game last year, and I am not saying that because of the GG
Muscle = loss of speed.
But it isn’t only weights, it was treadmill work and such. He posted multiple videos in twitter of him running
His Twitter account was annoying this offseason.
Because all he did was post about working out and running… Haha. That’s the reason why a lot of fans think people who say he doesn’t care are idiots…
And Rhianna = Loss of somthing else perhaps. There is something very ho-hum about Kemp in 2010. Millions of dollars, and a super hot rich and famous girlfriend might just have something to do with that.
I really hate reading stuff like this. If that was the case, why did he have one of the best starts in Dodger history?
Many things start well.
He’s been with her the whole year… Through good and bad play. But let’s blame his GF because he has struggled?
How about you look at these stats… His BABIP is down like 60 points and he has hit 15 less linedrives than last year. Linedrives fall 80 percent of the time, and with those additional hits alone(aka his BABIP stays the same, not his career average), he is hitting 290. This could happen for two reasons. One, he is getting unlucky or two, he changed his swing after being homer happy to try to generate more flyballs, and therefore hid stats are down
Untrue. Laziness = loss of speed. Less Emphasis on Athleticism = loss of speed. Fat = loss of speed. Frustration = loss of speed. Lack of focus = loss of speed. Missing cues (base stealing) = loss of speed. Running long distance instead of sprints = loss of speed. Misfiring Central Nervous System = loss of speed. Not working fast twitch muscles enough = loss of speed.
No, muscle does not equal loss of speed.
I, in fact challenge you, to produce an article or research where it in fact states that “if you want to be faster, lose muscle” or something of that nature.
he was saying if you get heavier, you are likely to become slower
No, he SAID muscle = loss of speed. A very general statement instead of specific that people tend to make when in fact it is not true. That is why I pointed out multiple ways that one would lose their speed. In my honest opinion, I think Kemp’s CNS is fried and he is not fully recovering. It’s not allowing him to think clearly (bad routes) and it’s showing at the plate, on the base paths, and in the field.
He was implying that he gained more muscle working out and therefore became heavier, which lead to him having a worst year regarding speed.
And c’mon, he central nervous system? Wow. You’re just gonna look for anything, huh?
We are refferring to the same Matt Kemp that won GG in Center last year, correct?
Unfortunately, yes. I think he is a great outfielder when he wants to be. I just have not seen the drive in his game this year.
Question… You probably called Kemp ‘smooth’ last year when he was taking nonchalant routes to the ball, huh? Now he is lazy/non driven for doing the same thing, because he struggled at the plate? common…
His defense is OK, but not as agressive as last year. I’ll admit that I do watch a lot, and am a big fan of his. I know he can play better than he is at this point. Both on offense and defense.
LMFAO
Just checking since you stated that he “wasn’t good in CF last year…”
Yeah because Orlando Hudson also deserved the GG
You bring up Hudson to contest, but you didn’t contest Kemp being chosen…? Come on, Kemp wasn’t bad last year and everyone knows it.
I have heard it said best that Kemp relies more on pure athleticism than that of pure baseball fundamentals.
Kemp didn’t deserve a GG last year, but to say he “wasn’t good” last year is incorrect. He was pretty darn good, even from a UZR perspective.
This year has been a different story, but he’s been better lately defensively if you watch the games.
Thanks for last part of ’08 Manny; that was worth it alone for LA. Now go to Texas and get a ring; if you wind up in Frisco, then &$#@ you. =)
I think almost certainly that the team that picks him up will be just renting him for this year only. I do not think there is any team looking to sign Rent-a-Ram just yet for 2011. As a DH, he could probably do some damage for the Rays, Rangers, or White Sox in a playoff run. To the Red Sox, that would be interesting to watch at least. in the playoffs on offense. I just do not think there is an NL team out there willing to take a chance on his legs. The Dodgers will be lucky to get anything for him at this point. Hopefully for the Dodgers sake there will be a market out there, and more than one team that wants to take the risk. Hopefully Manny will waive the NTC, and journey onward.
It’s interesting how Buster Olney can whip this story up all by his lonesome, just because it sounds like a good story. The definitive “this week” is a nice touch, but Olney is only saying that because that would be the only way Manny can be traded by August 31, not because he has any information from anyone reputable that such a move is contemplated. As usual, Olney’s source is an inanimate object, in this case a calendar.
Interesting that Manny’s not on waivers yet. Have the Dodgers ever said they are putting him on waivers? Has Manny ever said he would waive no-trade to leave? Are any other teams willing to pay even a mil for a guy whose legs might not hold up?
And, for that matter, despite much evidence to the contrary, the Dodgers probably think they’re still in the WC race. They almost have to think that, or the fans will stop coming. They’ll lose at least a mil from depressed attendance — parking fees, concession sales — if they throw in the towel this week, which trading Manny would equate to. We’ll see, but I’m not buying it.
He should be, but they didn’t get all these awesome “Vets” for nothing. I would doubt it if Manny goes to be honest
Would the Cards be out of the question?
Manny in that big outfield sounds pretty scary. I wonder if the Cards would even consider it. I really think the Cards, and every other NL team will take a pass on Rent-A-Ram.
Holliday, Rasmus, and Jay? Manny doesnt fit, and you dont want La Russa getting anymore reasons to sit Rasmus.
Neither Holliday or Manny could give La Russa a reason to sit Rasmus. Craig could go back down to Memphis and Holliday could shift to right and Manny could play in left. I realize his glove is awful but Manny hitting in front of/behind or anywhere near Holliday and Pujols would be more than worth his bad glove. Anyway, this is supposed to be a ground ball staff not a fly ball staff.
Just get that lazy slug out of L.A.!
Just get him out of L.A.