FRIDAY, 12:50pm: Rosenthal says the Giants aren't ready to act on a trade for Hart (Twitter link). They would prefer a left-handed bat and would rather give up prospects than a major league arm like Jonathan Sanchez.
WEDNESDAY, 8:48pm: Ken Rosenthal of FoxSports.com tweets that the two sides are expected to talk about a possible Hart trade before their series ends tomorrow night. Rosenthal notes that Milwaukee likes Jonathan Sanchez, but it remains to be seen if a deal can be worked out.
TUESDAY, 7:40pm: Updating his initial report, Schulman adds that the Brewers haven't decided yet whether or not they want to move Hart, so talks between the two teams aren't far along.
7:00pm: Andrew Baggarly of the San Jose Mercury News says (via Twitter) that the Brewers will only deal Hart this week if a team overpays. The Giants, who don't seem entirely convinced that Hart would have as much success in their ballpark, probably aren't going to do that. Schulman, meanwhile, tweets that it would likely take "Sanchez-plus" to pry Hart from the Brew Crew.
6:24pm: The Giants could be "focusing on a possible trade" involving Corey Hart, tweets Hank Schulman of the San Francisco Chronicle. The Giants were recently reported to have interest in the Brewers' outfielder, and Schulman noted yesterday that the Giants' brass may have been scouting players at the Giants-Brewers game.
Despite Pat Burrell's success in San Francisco so far (.316/.391/.553), the Giants have still been linked to outfield bats, such as David DeJesus and Jose Guillen. Hart would be of particular interest to the Giants, since he's under contract through 2011, and Brian Sabean has said his club would like to avoid merely renting players for a couple months.
When we asked nearly two weeks ago whether the Brewers ought to deal Hart, over half of our poll respondents suggested that trading the 28-year-old would be in Milwaukee's best interest. For their part though, the Brewers aren't eager to hold a fire sale, particularly with players like Hart and Prince Fielder, who are under team control past this season. In a second tweet, Schulman cautions that Hart, in the midst of a potential career year, would not come cheaply for the Giants.
Tommy T just mentioned this on KNBR to Jon Miller. We’ll see what comes of it. Again, just a rumor at this point.
Corey Hart for Madison Bumgarner, and brewers eat remainder of harts 2010 salary.
I could see that.
Even after Bumgarner shut you out thru 8? The only way Bumgarner gets traded is if it’s a package for a BIG bat.
Yes, after Bumgarner shut us out for 8. Face it, you need offense, we need pitching. What do you think you can get for Bumgarner?
We need hitting but not at the expense of a top 10 prospect in all baseball. Bumgarner straight up wouldn’t land us a monster bat, but Corey Hart is hardly a game changer. He’s having a great year for you guys because Prince and Braun bat behind him so he sees good pitches. We don’t have that caliber 3/4. Plus ATT, Hart’s numbers go down.
Most of Hart’s at bats have come at the 6th spot in the lineup. He’s had 15 home runs batting 6th and only 3 batting 2nd.
That makes the deal even worse. Now we are giving up a top 10 prospect for a number six who is only under contract until ’11 whereas Bumgarner who is already living up to the hype is under contract for several more years.
How on earth does that make the deal worse? Hitting home runs with protection is more valuable than hitting home runs when you don’t see a lot of pitches to hit? Really?
Ok…play GM for a second. You have a team that has only an outside chance at making the playoffs. A team offers you a nice player (not great, but not a game changer) who’s contract is only through next year. They want in return your BEST pitching prospect who in his first three game in the show has shown that he belongs and is under team control for the next 6 years….
What do you do?
I don’t think Hart alone is worth Bumgarner (Fielder might be, but Hart isn’t), but I don’t see how Hart hitting the far majority of his home runs without protection makes the deal worse.
I thought Hart was your leadoff guy. If someone is hitting 6th, usually means he isn’t as strong, unless you have a Yankee team..
I do like Hart. I just wouldn’t give up anything huge and as reported they want a haul for him. If I were the Brewers, I’d sell high on him as well.
BTW, what is wrong with Braun? He usually owns us!
Hart is a strong hitter, and the Brewers don’t have a stacked lineup…Ken Macha is just an idiot. It took him almost two months to realize that Carlos Gomez shouldn’t be batting higher in the lineup than Hart.
As for Braun, he’s been in a funk for a while now. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was hiding an injury.
Macha for Bochy straight up! lol
Our sports writer said we were also scouting Braun. I said Ok Bye Bye Timmy and Posey! š
So let me get this straight… The deal is worse because you thought Hart was a “#2” earlier, but now that you know he was a “#6” he is worse?
K.
Read again….I said I thought he was a leadoff hitter. The point is, brewer fans think Hart is worth Bumgarner…NOT TRUE!
Yeah… I did read again. I don’t mean to be rude, but you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Evaluating hitters based solely on where they bat in the batting order? Completely foolish.
And you are right, Hart is NOT worth Bumgarner at all… Sabean is an idiot though so it could happen.
The whole topic was them saying Bumgarner for Hart. Anything after doesn’t really matter. But I would take a solid leadoff hitter over a 6 anyday.
LOL man. I can’t begin to explain how laughably stupid it is to evaluate a player based ONLY on where he bats in the lineup.
Once again, you are totally missing the point of the conversation, but it doesn’t matter….the trade didn’t happen.
Peace
The whole topic was them saying Bumgarner for Hart. Anything after doesn’t really matter. But I would take a solid leadoff hitter over a 6 anyday.
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You have to be Kidding I would’t let Madison go he is going to be awesome and we need him I think we should let Sanchez go, he is very inconsistnet, but they are going to want more then that we should give one of our prospects down on the farm we have a chance now we should get rid of Boche and Sabean while we are at it and Rowand.
I see Bumgarner with the potential of Cain..
I see Bumgarner with the potential of Cain..
Wouldn’t trade Bum. Still would like to see the Giants acquire Hart though.
I love the typo’s in Hank’s tweet.
I bet he’s been tailgating in the Miller Park parking lot…
LOL, good observation.
Don’t like the Hart trade I feel he doesn’t have as much up side if we get Prince Fielder. Hart feels like another Rowand waiting to happen…and I would not trade Bumgarner so freely…
Hart for Rowand, Renteria , J Sanchez & a AA Prospect…let the chips fall where they may..
I will say trading for a starter is dangerous for the Giants since Lincecum isnt pitching that well as of late..
Sabean has made some crazy trades in the past..hope whatever he does isnt giving away too much
why on earth would the crew want Rowand or Renteria?!
Thank you, I agree one hundred percent
Sanchez didn’t do himself any favors in Milwaukee this week – throwing 114+ in 5 innings of work with a handful of walks and more than one wild pitch thrown in.
Million dollar arm or not, the guy has fifty cent control.
Giant’s will have to give up BIG players for Fielder then.. possibly Sandoval..
Giant’s will have to give up BIG players for Fielder then.. possibly Sandoval..
no Sabean you idiot why are you getting Hart, Fielder is available get him not Hart
the giants already have an over weight corner infielder
so? if we get Fielder we’ll have at least another 30 homeruns I can deal with a heavy infield if they play well
He’s a little too young for Sabean, isn’t he.
LOL come on that joke is a little old at least he got rid of Bengie to give Buster Posey the everyday catchers job
LOL come on that joke is a little old at least he got rid of Bengie to give Buster Posey the everyday catchers job
Even at his worst Hart posts an OPS+ around 100 with 20-25 steal potential. Its not like this seasons power is some sort of aberration, Hart has always had 25hr power, hes just been seeing the ball well.
Hart won’t have 25 HR power (1) at AT&T Park and (2) without the protection of Fielder and Braun.
People think Hart’s season is because of Miller Park. Hart’s road OPS is .885, which is great than the OPS of any Giants player other than Huff (.889). He may lose some power at AT&T Park, but he will still hit for average, and he’ll add some speed to the lineup.
The Giants need power and plate discipline, not average and speed. Hart’s OPS was .759 in 2008 and .753 in 2009. It all stinks of Rowand Part Deux. Sabean needs to not trade for a questionable player whose trade value is at its apex.
I’m about to make a generalization here…
Most Giants fans will say “we need power in our lineup.” Then, anytime there are rumors about the Giants trading for a power bat, most Giants fans will say “oh, but he won’t hit for power at AT&T.” I just wonder if you guys could make up your minds…
I think Hart would hit very well in AT&T Park, also, he has great power, he really does. He’s the type of player that can hit a home run to any part of the field. To the people thinking Prince would be better at AT&T than Hart, you know as well as I do that Prince is a dead pull hitter. He’ll be taking home run hacks trying to hit the ball into the cove every time, and that will make him less successful.
as a left handed hitter the only way you’re going to get a ball out is as a pull hitter. fielder would flourish at at&t park.
Comparing Fielder to Hart in terms of power is pretty silly. My point is that, given the opportunity to obtain either of them, I far prefer Fielder, who–even in an off year–should hit 30. Hart is having a breakout season, but the Giants are far too prone to acquiring guys at their apex. Fielder, two years younger than Hart, has hit 28+ HRs four times, whereas Hart’s power declined from 2007-2009. I’m sorry – why are we having this conversation again?
Fielder has indeed flourished in AT&T with an opposite field jack and a water shot thats why we want him more than Hart
Hart Tanner, Joaquin, Kieschnick
Good trade but I see Kieschnick as a potential All-Star.. he’s just like Thomas Neal..
Well from what I hear Kieschnick is a grip it and rip it guy. Neal is a better all round hitter.
Well from what I hear Kieschnick is a grip it and rip it guy. Neal is a better all round hitter.
Good trade but I see Kieschnick as a potential All-Star.. he’s just like Thomas Neal..
if you’re the giants, would you rather give up sanchez for hart or cain for fielder?
unfortunately, neither of those trades straight up would be acceptable to the Brewers.
we don’t need to trade Cain, we could trade Sanchez along with other prospects for Fielder. We could still get Fielder without giving up Cain and also no offense to Hart but he looks like another Aaron Rowand because his numbers will go down at AT&T like his did. Fielder is a proven hitter and he hits well in AT&T park luckily Giants management is realizing that they should put all their effort in getting Fielder and no one else.
where did you hear that fielder can be had without including cain? the beat writers for both teams as well as an interview with melvin indicate differently. no doubt, if fielder can be traded with a package deal including sanchez, that’s the move to make
as of late Sanchez has been pitching better than Cain but as inconsistent as Sanchez can be he fits better at Miller Park than Cain does because he’s a strikeout pitcher and gets grounders whereas Cain gets flyballs and at Miller Park flyballs will leave. Sanchez even on bad days can get at least 5 K’s plus Sanchez also has bad luck he’s the only guy I know of who lost a 1 hitter and the hit wasn’t a homerun but we’ll see what happens If I’m the brewers I’d get either Bumgarner or Sanchez cuz both are strikeout pitchers in that park flyball pitchers don’t work out well
I’m not usually one to point out grammar mistakes, but it is extremely difficult to read a comment of that length with only one period in it.
The Brewers don’t even want Cain in this trade scenario, they want to add cost controlled pitching near the MLB level. Both players contracts are up at the same time, it just doesn’t make sense for either team. Also the Crew could have had Sanchez in a Hardy deal last year and didn’t take it. There is only one player on the Giants that matches up with what the Brewers are looking for and I highly doubt he gets traded for Hart.
Since when could the brewers have had Sanchez for Hardy? So they didn’t want a lefty pitcher who strikes guys out but they wanted an all glove no bat CF.
The idea was eliminating payroll. Hardy was making something like $6 million, and Gomez is only making $1 million. With the acquisition of Gomez, we were able to let Mike Cameron and his $10 million salary leave, allowing us to sign Randy Wolf. The Brewers liked this thought better than getting Sanchez, apparently.
I didn’t say straight up, but there were talks about a deal ( I believe it was during the winter meetings) before Sanchez threw the no hitter. At that time Melvin said he didn’t like the offers on the table. Sanchez would have been 2 offseasons ago not last year when the trade for Gomez happened.Also they already have 3 lefties in the rotation and a guy exactly like Sanchez in Manny Parra in their rotation.
I haven’t found the artlcle stating Hardy for Sanchez in a 10 minute search but I did find this one that describes how low his value was only 13 months ago, the Giants were thinking of doing a swap for Hank Blalock.
mlbtraderumors.com/2009/06/jonathan-sanchezs-value…
The only way the giants get fielder without Cain is giving up sanchez and bumgardner
Even then its not enough
Rowand is on the wrong side of 30. His numbers would go down anywhere. In 38 at bats Hart has a .834 ops at AT&T Park.
I wouldnt trade Sanchez OR Bumgarner for Fielder OR Hart. Fielder is about to get very expensive and just like his daddy is going to age terribly, besides, does anybody notice Aubrey Huff is having a better year anyways. Hart is much like Rowand in that he is very hack happy and will not walk, just like every other player on the Giants. I’d love to see Braun on the team, but he would cost the farm, but frankly, the Giants are not one hitter away from being a contender so it would not be worth it anyway
padres need Corey Hart
hart looks the offspring of a caveman and a redneck. he is one ugly dude.
I hope not…
Please dont do it!! He wont hit in AT&T. He’ll just be another Aaron Rowand. Stand pat up till the deadline. If we’re within 5 games of San Diego, then make a trade. If not, dont make any moves, hope for the best and wait till the offseason to make moves.
I’m starting to get real nervous nowā¦ We don’t need Corey Rowand-Hart!
If we are going to get a bat, go all out & get prince. Not these same old 2nd option cats!
I DONT KNOW ABOUT MY OTHER FELLOW SF FANS, BUT IM TIRED OF HAVING OUR GAMES FEEL LIKE IM WATCHING THE WORLD CUP!!!!
Bumgarner should be untouchable in most trade talks. The guy has ace potential; you don’t trade a 20 year old with ace upside for a MARGINAL improvement like Hart. Hart at AT&T WILL hit for LESS power, that’s guaranteed. He’ll be a nice piece in the Giants lineup, but he isn’t a game changer.
Did anyone else notice the unusually high number of people claiming that Hart is just like Rowand? And a lot of those comments would then suggest to go after Prince instead…..weird.
because Fielder’s consistent and proven whereas Hart is in the middle of likely a career year(in a hitter’s park) and his career numbers show he isn’t good at getting on base but Fielder is. When we got Rowand he came off a career year with a .309 and 27 homeruns in a hitters park and like Hart he doesn’t have enough patience at the plate. I’d rather get someone who I know will have the power, the plate discipline to play for us and hit in AT&T, Prince Fielder is that Bat.
I understand the comparison, I was just pointing out that in this comments section there was a very high number of different posters making said comparison. Just something that was odd to me.
I understand the comparison, I was just pointing out that in this comments section there was a very high number of different posters making said comparison. Just something that was odd to me.
When a player has a year that goes against his career stats, never place value on said players on that year. This will come back to haunt you more often than naught. And the last thing the Giants need is to make this mistake yet again.
thank you Chris
People just show how dumb they are when they talk about Prince Fielder not aging well.. do you think he is suddenly gonna drop off at 28 and just stop hitting homeruns? I mean worst case scenario, his skill drops off around 32 or 33. That means he will easily be a threat for another 6 years. Whoever signs fielder in a year and a half is gonna do so for about 5 years which should be plenty safe.
Neither Hart or Fielder are going to get traded unless they get offered you MLB or MLB ready pitching. If you think the Brewers are gonna let either of those guys (regardless of how streaky hart is) for anything less than a middle of the rotation arm, you have no clue what yur talking about. The Brewers don’t HAVE to trade either of these guys. They have them both locked up for another year and have plenty of time to trade. Although it would be nice to move Hart before his arby hearing in the offseason.
So true. People have been beating the “won’t age well drum” since probably he wasn’t drafted by the A’s in Moneyball. I agree with these critics. They will eventually be right………….. after Prince surpasses 500 HR.
Sure he may very well fall apart sooner than most. But it is silly to beat this drum now when he is 27. He will probably run into “age” issues after at least 4-5 more excellent seasons with the bat, at the soonest.
While I think we need a big bat I really don’t see it happening before this trade deadline unless the bait is NOT Sanchez and the target is NOT Hart. Hart is not a game changer for the Giants and really doesn’t offer that good of a projection moving forward to afford giving up a formidable arm for, at least not better than what our farm could produce. The type of player the Giants need is a Fielder, Dunn, Uggla, Adrian Gonzalez, Willingham who can fill a corner outfield/1B spot and provide consistent power in the middle of the lineup for years to come. Unfortunately all of those players would cost more than we have or can afford to give up without crippling the current staff or whatever future prospects we have.
Personally I think this season doesn’t live or die by getting that “Big” bat… it rests on the likes of Bumgarner solidifying the rotation’s back end, the pen pitching as tight as they did last year and most of all Sandoval playing the way he has shown he can. This team could prove to be a treat not only to the NL West but the entire NL… they’re biggest problem is they play too hot and cold. When they’re hot they put up runs with the best of them and pitch lights out… when they’re bad, they’re almost impossible to watch. This team has no middle ground and when they get cold it always seems to be when teams like the Padres or Dodgers roll into town.
I hope they can develop a little more consistency in the second half because they’re going to need to play the NL West hard if they have any hope of getting into the playoffs.
Hart for Bumgarner or J.Sanchez? Sounds like classic Sabean buy-high.
Prince, Prince! Fielder is what you call proven when it come to his swing. Forget Hart. A career year, not a proven hitter.
I wish GM’s would read comments from their fans. We DON’T want Hart.
Rawlings we also didn’t want Huff… or Burrell… or Uribe… just saying
Sorry let me rephrase that. We DON’T want Hart for the price of Sanchez.
Either way I think if we trade Sanchez its going to haunt us because once he gets it all nailed he’s going to be amazing, but it has to be done to get us a hitter. Even though it might/will happen this season please don’t let it be Hart…if you want someone in the outfield go for Shin-Soo Choo (Sanchez, Runzler, Thomas Neal) or a first baseman (Sanchez, Wheeler, Runzler, Belt) go for Fielder!
Choo is great but he will miss a couple season in the Korean army.
They’re trying to work around it with Choo and it’s possible he could serve in the army after he is finished playing his baseball career (I think so correct me if I’m wrong). But if we get Choo it might work out like some other trade Sabean did with the Indians in ’96…you know the one for Jeff Kent? But Choo is a proven hitter and he’s got some power to boot. I just hope that whatever type of bat we get it is one with power potential and can drive in runners in scoring position at the trade deadline..
From his Wiki page so take it for what it’s worth.
Military Service
South Korea has mandatory military service for men and Choo is required to serve about 2 years before he turns 30 in 2012. The government gives de-facto waivers to athletes by requiring them only to serve 4-week long basic military training under limited circumstances, which Choo missed several times. In addition, the South Korean government does not allow an individual to give up their citizenship to avoid military service.
From his Wiki page so take it for what it’s worth.
Military Service
South Korea has mandatory military service for men and Choo is required to serve about 2 years before he turns 30 in 2012. The government gives de-facto waivers to athletes by requiring them only to serve 4-week long basic military training under limited circumstances, which Choo missed several times. In addition, the South Korean government does not allow an individual to give up their citizenship to avoid military service.
They’re trying to work around it with Choo and it’s possible he could serve in the army after he is finished playing his baseball career (I think so correct me if I’m wrong). But if we get Choo it might work out like some other trade Sabean did with the Indians in ’96…you know the one for Jeff Kent? But Choo is a proven hitter and he’s got some power to boot. I just hope that whatever type of bat we get it is one with power potential and can drive in runners in scoring position at the trade deadline..
Please do not trade Cain. That is all.
ya i think hart will do good for the giants im just scared for what they have to give up for Hart cuz we all no how sabean is so im guessing tomarrow will b the big day so we will see what happens
well just keep in mind that we can have 2 Aaron Rowands in our lineup if we get hart
hows he another Rowand . Rowand only had 1 good year in the national league n that was his last year in phi plus rowand hasnt gone over 70 RBI s since his been on the Giants. plus we need someone like Hart cuz the dude is on pace to have over 100 RBI .
hows he another Rowand . Rowand only had 1 good year in the national league n that was his last year in phi plus rowand hasnt gone over 70 RBI s since his been on the Giants. plus we need someone like Hart cuz the dude is on pace to have over 100 RBI .
please Sabean stay away from Hart, he’s a nice player but not worth giving up a strong pitcher in our rotation for. Hart’s power numbers would shrink in SF and he strikes out a lot.
people say he’s another Rowand, I’d say he’s better than Rowand because he can steal bases and a little better hitter overall but again I wouldn’t give up Sanchez for him.
agree 100%
I’d be okay with giving up Prince Fielder, Corey Hart and Randy Wolf for Jonathon Sanchez, Aaron Rowand, and Edgar Renteria or Bumgarner. Would the Giants part with Travis Ishikawa?
No trade will go down until after the all-star game.
I’d be okay with giving up Prince Fielder, Corey Hart and Randy Wolf for Jonathon Sanchez, Aaron Rowand, and Edgar Renteria or Bumgarner. Would the Giants part with Travis Ishikawa?
No trade will go down until after the all-star game.
I really don’t think these teams line up as much as everyone thinks. The Brewers desperately need quality young pitching with multiple years of control left. Sanchez is not that. In fact, he’s basically more of the same of what the team already has.
Yes, it would be awesome to get Bumgarner for Hart and/or Fielder, but there is no way SF trades him at this point.
Exactly man.
I really don’t think these teams line up as much as everyone thinks. The Brewers desperately need quality young pitching with multiple years of control left. Sanchez is not that. In fact, he’s basically more of the same of what the team already has.
Yes, it would be awesome to get Bumgarner for Hart and/or Fielder, but there is no way SF trades him at this point.
OK, The giants trading Madbum for Hart is not happening so get that out of your mind. But I could see brewers getting a package centered around Bumgarner, and Wheeler for Fielder. Giant fans you are not and will not get Fielder with just J. Sanchez. The Brewers need good young pitching not just a fairly old arm with bad control. But I would still send Hart for Sanchez straight up.
Right on, Sanchez sucks. The fact that he pitches in a pretty extreme pitchers park makes his numbers look better than they are. Look at his peripheral numbers and he’s a #3/#4 starter at the very best and he only has one more control year than Fielder/Hart.
It would be the most heart wrenching decision ever, but I would push for Cain for Braun, straight up. Both teams hurt because they lose a staple, but both teams get better because they strengthen an area that they are hurting. And both players are locked up for 3+ years.
Are you High i want your dealers number. Braun is locked up very very very very cheepley for the next 5 years and he’s just better the Cain.
Do you think Braun is hurt now? I watched the four game series and he looked awful. Last year when we opened with you guys, we won the series, but Braun was a one man wrecking crew.
You are right about Braun for Cain trade. He is under a very team friendly contract. I wouldn’t give him up for any trade that wasn’t incredibly lopsided in my favor.
Are you High i want your dealers number. Braun is locked up very very very very cheepley for the next 5 years and he’s just better the Cain.
I don’t want Hart, he’s not the big bat we need. Aubrey HUff is has two less homers than him… It seems no matter how well we hit we always need one more bat. I think the only way we trade for someone is if we are getting a legitimate, proven bat.
I don’t want Hart, he’s not the big bat we need. Aubrey HUff is has two less homers than him… It seems no matter how well we hit we always need one more bat. I think the only way we trade for someone is if we are getting a legitimate, proven bat.
If these rumors are true, Doug Melvin is officially stupid — approaching Sabean territory. He has Rickie Weeks, Corey Hart, and Prince Fielder all on the trading block right now, yet he “likes” Jonathon Sanchez who is only under team control for 1 year longer than the 3 players he is selling?
WHEW!!! We dodged a bullet there. Now that we are in Washington for 3…let the Josh Willingham discussion begin!
I agree. Sanchez would be a mediocre and expensive short term solution in the rotation. Not the kind of guy Melvin should be targeting at all.
I agree. Sanchez would be a mediocre and expensive short term solution in the rotation. Not the kind of guy Melvin should be targeting at all.
LOL think there is gonna be Adam Dunn rumors when the Giants enter the Washington series?
If there is going to be talks for Dunn you could also include Emmanuel Burriss in the package.
I don’t like Dunn’s defensive mobility but that kind of bat is what the Giants need. I just don’t see Aubrey Huff getting resigned if the Giants acquire Dunn. He’s been great defensively this year but in my opinion Huff belongs at first. I still say go for Hart.
LOL think there is gonna be Adam Dunn rumors when the Giants enter the Washington series?
Can someone send Sabean a memo just to get Prince Fielder so everybody doesn’t he is a complete dumb@ss. Right handers cant hit 30+ HRs in SF…
And yet both Rich Aurilia and Jeff Kent did.
roids lol
I’d like to see the Giants go after Nick Markakis of the Orioles. He’s much younger than anyone we’ve been linked to, and I think he still has some potential.
The orioles aren’t going to trade their best player…
Why not? The Mariners just did.
Man if the Yankees are looking for pitching why not deal Jonathan Sanchez for Nick Swisher. Straight up of course.
Panda also needs to have some swing rehab down in AAA.. bring back Matt Downs or Velez for a week or so.
OK, The giants trading Madbum for Hart is not happening so get that out of your mind. But I could see brewers getting a package centered around Bumgarner, and Wheeler for Fielder. Giant fans you are not and will not get Fielder with just J. Sanchez. The Brewers need good young pitching not just a fairly old arm with bad control. But I would still send Hart for Sanchez straight up.
I love Cain. But….his body of work shows that so far he is about a .500 pitcher. He got shelled last time out. Is our OPINION of Cain higher than reality? Perhaps. I, too, am a Giant fan. I don’t want to lose him, but, if we were trading FOR him, I’m not convinced that we’d think we were getting something great. What would we say? Inconsistent? Finds a way to lose? Potential unrealized? How would we describe Cain if we were trading to get him?
how about cain shierholtz velez and a reliever idk if that would work haha just saying
ANYONE but the starting Five and Posey. Take your pick. It’s all a house of cards after that. Smoke and mirrors. Please do not break up that staff.