3:17pm: Coghlan's injury won't prevent the Marlins from dealing Jorge Cantu, according to Joe Capozzi of the Palm Beach Post. Capozzi reports that the Marlins continue discussing Cantu with other teams and suggests there's a "good chance" that the club trades Cantu. The Marlins appear to be asking for a "big prospect" from the Rangers for Cantu, according to Jon Heyman of SI.com (via Twitter).
10:56am: With the news that Chris Coghlan tore the meniscus in his left knee in Sunday's pie-related incident, MLB.com's Joe Frisaro says the Marlins are leaning toward keeping outfielder Cody Ross. The loss of Coghlan depletes the team's outfield depth, and the Marlins are still within spitting distance of the playoffs.
Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports actually tweeted two days ago, before the Coghlan injury, that a Ross deal was unlikely. Now, ESPN.com's Jayson Stark says on Twitter that trading Ross is a "definite no-go" for the Marlins.
Frisaro says Ross has drawn attention from the Braves, Dodgers, and Red Sox. He doesn't rule out a deal, but says it'd "have to completely make sense." The Phillies and Yankees have also been linked to the 29-year-old outfielder.
bannister19
FYI Logan Morrison was moved to LF this season, and he was called up in place of Coghlan. They’ll be fine if they keep Ross.
MadzS
He wasn’t really moved to LF this season, he’s played 19 games there over the last few weeks when the Marlins were getting calls about their players. He’s shown success in LF though, I’m excited he’s up but really unhappy about why it happened.
Hope Cogs has a fast recovery!
bannister19
I haven’t followed him all year but he was playing LF in the last couple of days as they played Omaha, and he was playing LF earlier in the year (April-May..when it seemed Gaby will fit in fine) as well. Not sure how much he played in between..
But, they like moving their infielders to left field.
MadzS
Yeah they moved him to LF a few weeks ago, 19 games in LF. He’s a big talent and seems to be better in LF than 1B… we’ll see.
bonestock94
So this year we have 1 sneezing and 2 celebration injuries.
iRipper89
i dont see why the yankees are even considering getting this kid. hes great and all but with granderson heating up, gardener playing well, and swisher having another great season the outfield is the LEAST of their concerns. They have to figure out the 7th and 8th innings sooner than later. a 40 year old has outpitched that entire bullpen.
bonestock94
I would imagine Swisher becomes a DH if that trade happens. And lol at “a 40 year old,” as if he’s Tim Wakefield or something. Getting outperformed by the greatest closer that ever lived, one that continues to dominate, is nothing to be ashamed of. The bullpen does need to be addressed but certainly not because of that measuring stick.
oremlk
I wonder if this could also cause the Marlins to keep Cantu, since Coghlan won’t be able to move to third base.
bannister19
I never heard of any Coghlan-3B talks? Are there any? He’s a 2B with not the best arm. (hence why he’s in LF)
Rabbethan
He was originally a 3B who they moved to 2B because he wasn’t great defensively and his bat didn’t project for a 3B. He wasn’t moved to LF because he wasn’t good enough, he was moved there because there was an open spot in the OF and the Marlins have been putting guys there for years when they needed a bat. He’s better than Uggla at 2B but you don’t move Uggla unless you’re going to lock him up because his value is better as a 2B than a 3B or a LF.
bannister19
I know he’s a 2B, and I know why he got moved. I just never knew he used to play 3B. (but now I see the stats).
Anyways, I don’t think the Marlins will move him to 3B with or without Cantu.
aap212
He got moved because of that Uggla fella.
icedrake523
Maybe this will end the shaving cream pies. After all, this is baseball, not a carnival.
Zack23
What about “the players need to stop being so robotic, they’re playing a kid’s game for millions, they should have fun”?
Brandon Woodworth
I don’t know why everyone feels the Marlins are in the race. Only one starter who’s consistent, and you can’t throw Johnson out there every other day. Coghland, Ramirez, Uggla, Ross not hitting like they should, Mike Stanton is doing his best Carlos Pena impression, and their bullpen is the definition of a joke. I don’t hate the Marlins, but I can’t see where anyone can see a contending team. The only bright spot is Gaby Sanchez.
fishfan4life
I agree with mostly with one consistent starter and that Hanley isn’t hitting well….but where do you get the impression that Uggla isn’t doing well?
Brandon Woodworth
Uggla still is doing pretty great, even more so lately. But maybe I just think that because I’m a Braves fan.
ludafish
They are in the race, but its not like there is a clear shot for a playoff spot. we COULD go on a good run and make something happen, we have shown the potential…but as you said the bullpen is a joke and the chances are very slim. the bullpen has blown 5 games for josh johnson alone. imagine if JJ was 15-2 with that ERA? he’d easily be the cy young winner. they just have some hope that H2R, Ross, (and before this) Coghlan would wake up and do what they are capable of…and if they did we would be in much better waters. But as i have said before, with Bobby Cox as your manager the braves wont give up the lead in the division.
MadzS
Everyone still considers the Mets to be in the race and they’re now tied with the Marlins. They’re 8-2 since the ASG, including taking a series from the Rockies and NL East leading Braves.
Coghlan had a HORRIBLE start to the season, but he’s been on fire since mid May, Ramirez is struggling but that just makes him a normal every day player, Uggla has had a great season, Ross has seen a power drop but his overall contact is on track for a typical season. No one can deny JJ is a beast, but Nolasco has been great. 11 wins, 1.24 WHIP… he’s had one bad start and 3 iffy starts, but other than that he doesn’t give up many runs, walks or hits. Where do you get your info from? Maybe that’s why you don’t understand why they’re in the race…
bravescountry
they dont have the pitching to contend
ludafish
They dont have the bullpen to contend. The rotation is fine, its not amazing, but fine. JJ is, well you know. Ricky is a good number 2 and Anibal Sanchez is a solid 3 and possible 2. While Volstad has been inconsistent he has shown flashes, and Alex Sanabia has been a great call up. that being said the bullpen will blow all the leads. but the marlins are set to have a good rotation for a while.
bravescountry
that series really worried me against the braves i think if they wernt at home they would have had another loss or even a sweep by the braves they need to seriously step it up if they want to contend
MadzS
They don’t have the bullpen, their starting pitching is very solid. Hensley and Nunez are the two bright spots out of the bullpen, Sanches is debatable as a third bright spot. It’s not a mystery that they have a bad bullpen, a lot of teams have bullpen issues (though the Marlins seem to have more than most) so it will be hard to find help.Hopefully Badenhop can return to his ’09 form, Veras has shown positive signs but needs to get the walks under control. Tankersley is probably the biggest issue, being the only lefty… if they can get him on track the ‘pen would look much better. The relievers looked solid for all of 2 weeks, didn’t allow a run in something like 22 innings, they need to figure out how to replicate that.
bravescountry
is frisaro on something. how are the marlins going to attempt to get to the playoffs with their bullpen
ludafish
They have some pipe dream that they will start to perform better…which aside from Nunez, Hensley, and Sanches we’re screwed. everyone else has been so up and down and theres a revolving door with the minors and the bullpen…and even Hensley has been inconsistent lately. At least we dont have Pinto anymore…